[ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] protein degradation

2013-06-16 Thread Herman . Schreuder
Von: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] Im Auftrag von supratim dey Gesendet: Sonntag, 16. Juni 2013 15:22 An: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Betreff: [ccp4bb] protein degradation Hi i have setup a crystallization of a complex formed by two different proteins of molecular

[ccp4bb] protein degradation

2013-06-16 Thread supratim dey
Hi i have setup a crystallization of a complex formed by two different proteins of molecular weights 53kD and 13kD. During purification of this complex there was slight degradation band of 53KD protein as observed from SDS PAGE but it did not effect complex formation. Crystals appeared after 8 mont

Re: [ccp4bb] protein degradation in crystal

2013-01-16 Thread Joe Chen
tein solution used for >> crystallization. >> >> Herman >> >> ------ >> *From:* CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] *On Behalf Of >> *John Domsic >> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 16, 2013 2:22 PM >> *To:* CCP4

Re: [ccp4bb] protein degradation in crystal

2013-01-16 Thread Tom Murray-Rust
*From:* CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] *On Behalf Of *John > Domsic > *Sent:* Wednesday, January 16, 2013 2:22 PM > *To:* CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK > *Subject:* Re: [ccp4bb] protein degradation in crystal > > Hi Lisa, > > Speed is definitely a big factor here. With

Re: [ccp4bb] protein degradation in crystal

2013-01-16 Thread Herman . Schreuder
used for crystallization. Herman From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of John Domsic Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2013 2:22 PM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] protein degradation in

Re: [ccp4bb] protein degradation in crystal

2013-01-16 Thread David Schuller
Were the crystals which run different on gels from the same drop, or separate drops? Yes, it is possible that the protein is being cleaved in the crystal (self-cleavage?); but it may also be that it is being cleaved in the mother liquor, and that crystallization is enriching one form or anoth

Re: [ccp4bb] protein degradation in crystal

2013-01-16 Thread David Schuller
Were the crystals which run different on gels from the same drop, or separate drops? Yes, it is possible that the protein is being cleaved in the crystal (self-cleavage?); but it may also be that it is being cleaved in the mother liquor, and that crystallization is enriching one form or anoth

Re: [ccp4bb] protein degradation in crystal

2013-01-16 Thread John Domsic
Hi Lisa, Speed is definitely a big factor here. With a protein I work with I can get large crystals in myriad conditions that only diffract to about 4-5 Ang. What I ended up doing was taking these crystals and seeding entire screens. I found that not only would crystals appear sooner but it rev

Re: [ccp4bb] protein degradation in crystal

2013-01-16 Thread jens Preben Morth
Dear Lisa It is not uncommon to see breakdown products when you run crystals on gel. Espesially if they are older crystals, sometimes you even see higher molecular bands, these are probably due to intra molecular cross links formed over time. If you are worried about stability, try to increase

[ccp4bb] protein degradation in crystal

2013-01-16 Thread LISA
Hi All, I have an 36KD protein which can be crystallize in two days. Most of the crystals are very big. But all cystals have poor resolution,lower than 3.8 A. I picked some crystals, washed them in the mother solution and then run SDS-PAGE. It is surprised to find that different cystals have differ

Re: [ccp4bb] Fwd: [ccp4bb] protein degradation

2012-02-16 Thread Carlos Kikuti
I agree with Mark, except that I wouldn't even try sonication, Triton or freeze/thaw cycles in that case. I'd look for emulsification (with a Homogenizer) in a cold room, but if you go quickly and gently with the French Press (either in a cold room or by using a cold piston) it might help. Don'

Re: [ccp4bb] protein degradation

2012-02-15 Thread Jacob Keller
gt; PMSF once before lysising the cell. > > Yu Xiaodi > > > Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 18:39:19 +0530 > From: sivasankarpu...@iisertvm.ac.in > Subject: [ccp4bb] protein degradation > To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK > > > Dear All, > > Ca

Re: [ccp4bb] protein degradation

2012-02-15 Thread Xiaodi Yu
concentration). One small "trick" you can try is wash the cell with the buffer containing PMSF once before lysising the cell. Yu Xiaodi Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 18:39:19 +0530 From: sivasankarpu...@iisertvm.ac.in Subject: [ccp4bb] protein degradation To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Dear All, Can anybo

[ccp4bb] Fwd: [ccp4bb] protein degradation

2012-02-15 Thread Mark J van Raaij
try experimenting with different, especially protease-deficient, E coli strains to express the protein and try different methods to lyse the bacteria (sonication, french-press, emulsification, bead-beater, mortar & pestle under liquid nitrogen). on the other hand, if you are lucky, you are just

Re: [ccp4bb] protein degradation

2012-02-15 Thread Christian Roth
Hi, you may also check things like chemical degradation in SDS buffer as part of the analysis. Esspecially your degradation pattern is very much constant throughout your whole purification procedure. Christian Am Mittwoch 15 Februar 2012 14:09:19 schrieb Sivasankar Putta: > Dear All, > > Can

Re: [ccp4bb] protein degradation

2012-02-15 Thread Bosch, Juergen
Late induction for short time. Then immediately purify it cut down on any unnecessary steps eg shorter spin all on ice or coldroom etc. Jürgen .. Jürgen Bosch Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health Department of Biochemistry & Molecular Biology Johns Hopkins Malaria R

Re: [ccp4bb] protein degradation

2012-02-15 Thread Roger Rowlett
Alternatively, why not do a quick polish step using a long gradient on a 5 mL anion or cation exchange column, followed by a gel exclusion cleanup if necessary? Once the proteases have been removed from the crude extract, further degradation of purified protein should be minimal. This purification

Re: [ccp4bb] protein degradation during concentration for crystallization trials

2010-04-08 Thread Peter Hsu
Hi, I've not tried this on column cleavage before, but have you tried first purifying the protein. cleaving the tag off the column and rerunning it through the column to capture the tag and washing off the protein? Also, with concentration. Going from a 50 mM buffer, and .3M salt, down to near

Re: [ccp4bb] protein degradation during concentration for crystallization trials

2010-04-08 Thread Maia Cherney
Hi, MBP tag: 1.there might be a TEV cleavage site in your MBP variant. 2. your protein needs salt to stay in solution 3. your protein forms aggregates with MBP GST tag: you probably concentrate a protease together with your protein. You need a protease inhibitor kit to take care of different ty

[ccp4bb] protein degradation during concentration for crystallization trials

2010-04-08 Thread vikrant saa
Dear all I am working on purification of 14 kd protein(pI  8.3, basic protein)  that has MBP(maltose binding protein, 45 kd,) tag, and same protein in other vector(pGEX-KT) that has GST tag. During affinity purification in both cases I used 300mM nacl and 50 mM tris, pH 7.5 buffer throughout the

Re: [ccp4bb] protein degradation

2008-08-25 Thread Artem Evdokimov
bulletin board [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christian Biertuempfel Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 10:22 AM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] protein degradation Hi Debajyoti, There is another simple thing you can try: Raise your NaCl concentration to 500 or 1000 mM in your

Re: [ccp4bb] protein degradation

2008-08-25 Thread Christian Biertuempfel
Hi Debajyoti, There is another simple thing you can try: Raise your NaCl concentration to 500 or 1000 mM in your lysis buffer. This helps to clean up your sample further and it might inhibit proteases in your lysate. Good luck, christian Debajyoti Dutta wrote: Hi, This is going to be an

Re: [ccp4bb] protein degradation

2008-08-24 Thread Debajyoti Dutta
ird chemistry involving the >imidazole ring at high temp. no doubt). > > > >Artem > > _ > > From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of >Debajyoti Dutta >Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 3:21 AM >To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK >Subject:

Re: [ccp4bb] protein degradation

2008-08-24 Thread Artem Evdokimov
ta Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 3:21 AM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] protein degradation Hi again, Thank you for all you have replied. I suspect the sonnication for such a bad result. I am just wondering if I can use Histidine instead of Imidazole and then buffer exchange t

Re: [ccp4bb] protein degradation

2008-08-24 Thread Debajyoti Dutta
most alone in the extracted material - you wil likely see a >ribosomal p10 protein that's about pI 11 - and that's it. Remember that if >you go this way, you should avoid using lysozyme for cell lysis since HEWL >is mighty basic itself. > > > >Good luck, > > &g

Re: [ccp4bb] protein degradation

2008-08-22 Thread Artem Evdokimov
PM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: [ccp4bb] protein degradation Hi, This is going to be an off topic question concerning this community. I have a protein 6XHis tagged. When retrieved from the Ni-NTA column with imidazole found to be degraded, appears like a deep band with other bands (touchin

[ccp4bb] protein degradation

2008-08-22 Thread Debajyoti Dutta
Hi, This is going to be an off topic question concerning this community. I have a protein 6XHis tagged. When retrieved from the Ni-NTA column with imidazole found to be degraded, appears like a deep band with other bands (touching each other below the main band) in SDS PAGE. The protein is a

Re: [ccp4bb] protein degradation?

2007-11-05 Thread mesters
Let me correct myself, it is the imidazole buffer (not the nickel) and boiling your protein in does the rest I will try to find the exact reference for this phenomenon. J. Jeroen Mesters wrote: Hi, if I recall this correctly, it is the nickel that is in your sample after elution and boiling

Re: [ccp4bb] protein degradation?

2007-11-05 Thread Jeroen Mesters
Hi, if I recall this correctly, it is the nickel that is in your sample after elution and boiling your protein in SDS sample buffer does the rest. So, could be the sample is fully okay!!! J. Tiago Botelho wrote: > Hi, > > I also had a similar problem with one of my proteins... I had it clon

Re: [ccp4bb] protein degradation?

2007-11-05 Thread Tiago Botelho
Hi, I also had a similar problem with one of my proteins... I had it cloned in two different plasmids, one with Cter His-tag and the other in the Nter. Whenever I purified it using IMAC purification I would get the double band (that I confirmed by MS and were the same). I got ride of this "double

Re: [ccp4bb] protein degradation?

2007-11-04 Thread Juergen Bosch
Another possibility, since you say MS looks identical and you are unable to separate those two bands by other chromatografic means, is simple a metal binding site in your protein. If the charge is changed in your protein due to metal binding then the apparent molecular weight will differ - that

Re: [ccp4bb] protein degradation?

2007-11-04 Thread Jacob Keller
us Drive Evanston IL 60208 lab: 847.467.4049 cel: 773.608.9185 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 4:18 PM Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] protein degradation? Some protease

Re: [ccp4bb] protein degradation?

2007-11-04 Thread Artem Evdokimov
etin board [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 5:18 PM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] protein degradation? Some proteases are metal-dependent, and inhibitors for those aren't Ni-column-compatible. "We" (meaning m

Re: [ccp4bb] protein degradation?

2007-11-04 Thread price
Some proteases are metal-dependent, and inhibitors for those aren't Ni-column-compatible. "We" (meaning my students) found that it helps to (1) work very quickly and (2) put EDTA into the fraction collector tubes before eluting from the Ni column. At 06:22 AM 11/4/2007, Vijay Kumar wrote: H

Re: [ccp4bb] protein degradation?

2007-11-04 Thread Vincent Chaptal
Hi, Ii happened to me before. The protein was a dimer and by denaturing the purified protein with urea, and rerunning the Ni-NTA, I could separate the 2 species. So the dimer was a mixture of cleaved and uncleaved protein. If I recall correctly, we then observed degradation again after refoldi

Re: [ccp4bb] protein degradation?

2007-11-04 Thread Artem Evdokimov
Hope this helps, Artem _ From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Vijay Kumar Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 7:22 AM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: [ccp4bb] protein degradation? Hi, I have been trying purify a N-ter his-tagged protein over-expressed in E

Re: [ccp4bb] protein degradation?

2007-11-04 Thread Anthony Addlagatta
Hi Vijay, It is possible that the difference between the two bands is simply a methionine ! If you are working with a low resolution mass spec, it may not be very obvious. In most of the newly synthesised proteins both in prokaryotes and eukaryotes, the initiator methionine is removed by

Re: [ccp4bb] protein degradation?

2007-11-04 Thread Anastassis Perrakis
On Nov 4, 2007, at 14:23, Eric Dollins wrote: Are you expressing a eukaryotic protein? If so, you might want to check for rare codons. There are a number of websites where you can put in your coding sequence and check. I recently had this issue and it turned out to be incomplete/stalled transla

[ccp4bb] 答复: [ccp4bb] protein degradation?

2007-11-04 Thread Jiang Yu
China _ 发件人: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 代表 Vijay Kumar 发送时间: 2007年11月4日 20:22 收件人: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK 主题: [ccp4bb] protein degradation? Hi, I have been trying purify a N-ter his-tagged protein over-expressed in E.coli. After purification (Ni-NTA or Co-Talon

Re: [ccp4bb] protein degradation?

2007-11-04 Thread Eric Dollins
Are you expressing a eukaryotic protein? If so, you might want to check for rare codons. There are a number of websites where you can put in your coding sequence and check. I recently had this issue and it turned out to be incomplete/stalled translation rather than proteolysis as I had several rar

Re: [ccp4bb] protein degradation?

2007-11-04 Thread Wataru Kagawa
Hi Vijay, If it is C-terminal degradation, fusing the His-tag to the C-terminus may help you get rid of it. Wataru Kagawa # Wataru Kagawa, Ph. D. Research Scientist Protein Research Group RIKEN (Physical and Chemical Research Institute) W221, West R

[ccp4bb] protein degradation?

2007-11-04 Thread Vijay Kumar
Hi, I have been trying purify a N-ter his-tagged protein over-expressed in E.coli. After purification (Ni-NTA or Co-Talon), I find two bands in SDS PAGE which are very close each other (top band in the right MW and more intense than the lower band). Western blot (for his-tag) of the gel gave signa