Comics Book Fans (and Skeptics): Neal Adams is a great artist AND a crackpot!

2006-07-23 Thread Jim Davis
He was interviewed on the last "The Skeptical Guide to the Universe" (my favorite Podcast): http://www.theskepticsguide.org/skepticsguide/podcastinfo.asp?pid=51 Basically he's out to prove that the Earth does NOT feature continental drift or other aspects of plate tectonics. Instead the Earth is

Re: somebody help me on this?

2006-07-23 Thread Dana Tierney
I'll believe that when there's a rational child support system in this country :) >(2.) If you fertilize an egg, no matter where, you're responsible for >that life until he/she is 18. ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterl

Re: somebody help me on this?

2006-07-23 Thread Gruss Gott
> Dana wrote: > well then, that position, as stated by you, is rather silly. The Bush position, at least, seems the most consistent: (1.) Life begins at fertilization. (2.) If you fertilize an egg, no matter where, you're responsible for that life until he/she is 18. (3.) If you purposely create

Re: somebody help me on this?

2006-07-23 Thread Dana Tierney
well then, that position, as stated by you, is rather silly. No point in arguing it if nobody is defnding it. >> Dana wrote: >> However, your position leads to the contention that all ova have a right to >> be born > >It's not my position, it's just a position that I am clarifying so >that I can

Re: Iraq: American Occupation Is """"The Work Of Butchers.""""

2006-07-23 Thread Dana Tierney
as opposed of course to the current model of peace and prosperity... http://www.ft.com/cms/s/e46a3d1e-1a6d-11db-848c-779e2340.html >He must be deranged. The Sunnis stand to be the big losers if we pull >out too soon. Then we'll end up with another Kosovo in Baghdad. > >On 7/23/06, Dana Tierney

Re: Car haggling?

2006-07-23 Thread Cameron Childress
So does not getting married. ;) -Cameron > > -Original Message- > > From: Maureen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 5:42 PM > > To: CF-Community > > Subject: Re: Car haggling? > > > > It makes divorce a lot easier if you keep your credit separate. ;-> ~~~

Re: Car haggling?

2006-07-23 Thread Cameron Childress
On 7/23/06, Nick McClure <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've never had any real luck with the end of the month thing. But I also > only buy when the new model year comes out and the prices are low on the > previous model year. I bought a Civic in 1998 doing this and paid like 100 over invoice (accor

Re: Iraq: American Occupation Is ""The Work Of Butchers.""

2006-07-23 Thread Robert Munn
He must be deranged. The Sunnis stand to be the big losers if we pull out too soon. Then we'll end up with another Kosovo in Baghdad. On 7/23/06, Dana Tierney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > nope gotta finish the job. > > >Iraqi Parliament Speaker Says Invasion and Aftermath Are the 'Work of > Butche

RE: Car haggling?

2006-07-23 Thread Nick McClure
Depends on the state. > -Original Message- > From: Maureen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 5:42 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Car haggling? > > It makes divorce a lot easier if you keep your credit separate. ;-> > > On 7/23/06, Nick McClure <[EMAIL PROTECTE

RE: Car haggling?

2006-07-23 Thread Nick McClure
I've never had any real luck with the end of the month thing. But I also only buy when the new model year comes out and the prices are low on the previous model year. In fact I'm going to be looking for a new pickup soon. Dodge is starting in on the employee pricing thing again, and ford is also d

Re: Car haggling?

2006-07-23 Thread Maureen
It makes divorce a lot easier if you keep your credit separate. ;-> On 7/23/06, Nick McClure <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Being married if you are both on the title then you should both be on > the loan, which use both credits. > > One thing about getting married, your credit is combined, and ofte

RE: Car haggling?

2006-07-23 Thread Nick McClure
Being married if you are both on the title then you should both be on the loan, which use both credits. One thing about getting married, your credit is combined, and often good credit will win out over no credit > -Original Message- > From: Greg Morphis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: S

Re: somebody help me on this?

2006-07-23 Thread Gruss Gott
> Dana wrote: > However, your position leads to the contention that all ova have a right to > be born It's not my position, it's just a position that I am clarifying so that I can understand the issues. And that position would say that all embryos (i.e., *fertilized* eggs), not all ova, are huma

Re: somebody help me on this?

2006-07-23 Thread Dana Tierney
sorry, I can't agree. First of all, if we are talking test tubes, there are no possibly conflicting rights of the mother. So the issue is purely whether we have cells or a human life. I say that at five or six days it's a few cells, but I can see how people might feel otherwise. My position al

Re: somebody help me on this?

2006-07-23 Thread Gruss Gott
> Dana wrote: > I didn't say anything about abortion. I'm saying there's no logical difference between an egg fertilized in the womb or in a test tube. If you purposely decide not to take that embryo to term it could be argued that it's been "aborted". If you are opposed to abortion, then any ha

Re: Car haggling?

2006-07-23 Thread Cameron Childress
All the other ideas you gave are good ones. The only one I would add is to find a salesperson you are comfortable dealing with (isn't slimy), then find out when the dealership closes. Spend some time with the guy (enough that he will remember you well) and then say you'll "come back another day".

Re: Iraq: American Occupation Is ""The Work Of Butchers.""

2006-07-23 Thread Dana Tierney
nope gotta finish the job. >Iraqi Parliament Speaker Says Invasion and Aftermath Are the 'Work of Butchers' >By KIRK SEMPLE >Published: July 23, 2006 > >BAGHDAD, Iraq, July 22 ? The speaker of the Iraqi Parliament >criticized the American government's involvement in Iraq on Saturday, >likening the

Re: Car haggling?

2006-07-23 Thread Maureen
Depends on what kind of special they are offering, but probably not. On 7/23/06, Greg Morphis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Arkansas, would the rate be comparable to someone with excellent credit > though? > Thanks ~| Introducing

Re: somebody help me on this?

2006-07-23 Thread Dana Tierney
I didn't say anything about abortion. At five days you aren't talking about abortion, you know, just a failure to implant. And if you are going to say it's a human life when it's fertilized, then gee... would't that make it the responsibility of women to stay pregnant at all times? And to avoid

Re: Car haggling?

2006-07-23 Thread Gruss Gott
> Greg wrote: > Does that make sense? Basically do we both want to put our > credit on it? I would just put it in your name. Remember to pre-approve unless you're going to use the manufacturer's credit. ~| Introducing the Fusion

Re: Car haggling?

2006-07-23 Thread Greg Morphis
Arkansas, would the rate be comparable to someone with excellent credit though? Thanks On 7/23/06, Maureen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > A lot of places have first time buyer plans where she might get a > good rate, and it would allow her to build her credit. Just check > both possibilities. Wh

Re: Car haggling?

2006-07-23 Thread Maureen
A lot of places have first time buyer plans where she might get a good rate, and it would allow her to build her credit. Just check both possibilities. What state are you in? On 7/23/06, Greg Morphis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > One other question and I think I'm ready :) > My wife doesnt have

Re: Car haggling?

2006-07-23 Thread Greg Morphis
One other question and I think I'm ready :) My wife doesnt have great credit (she just recently started her credit, before then it was nil). I've got excellent credit according to experian.. When we go to buy the car would it be best to cosign? or just put it in my name? Does that make sense? Basic

RE: Car haggling?

2006-07-23 Thread Nick McClure
Same basic process however you won't know what the dealer paid. The value of the used vehicle is based on what other similar cars are selling for. If you buy private party, you will get a better deal, but there may be undisclosed issues. Of course that can always happen with a used car on a lot.

Re: Car haggling?

2006-07-23 Thread Gruss Gott
> Greg wrote: > Another question... What about haggling on used cars? Same process? Is > it easier? more difficult? > Same process, but sometimes more difficult because it's not as easy to get the cost. With a new car you can get the exact invoice. Either way go to Edmunds.com and click on the "

Iraq: American Occupation Is "The Work Of Butchers."

2006-07-23 Thread Gruss Gott
Iraqi Parliament Speaker Says Invasion and Aftermath Are the 'Work of Butchers' By KIRK SEMPLE Published: July 23, 2006 BAGHDAD, Iraq, July 22 — The speaker of the Iraqi Parliament criticized the American government's involvement in Iraq on Saturday, likening the invasion and its consequences to "

Re: Car haggling?

2006-07-23 Thread Greg Morphis
Another question... What about haggling on used cars? Same process? Is it easier? more difficult? On 7/23/06, Nick McClure <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I never go with the extended warranty, I think they are a waste, but > then I usually work on my own cars. > > Often the things that mess up aren

Re: Car haggling?

2006-07-23 Thread Gruss Gott
> Nick wrote: > I never go with the extended warranty, I think they are a waste, but > then I usually work on my own cars. > Well, it gets into the lease vs. buy discussion to me. There are a few strategies here: (1.) The Buy and Hold Strategy. In this strategy you'll be driving the car until i

RE: Car haggling?

2006-07-23 Thread Nick McClure
I never go with the extended warranty, I think they are a waste, but then I usually work on my own cars. Often the things that mess up aren't covered under those warranties. You might get an extended power train and engine warranty, but that won't cover the power steering pump, the alternator or t

Re: Car haggling?

2006-07-23 Thread Greg Morphis
Thanks for the information guys! Gruss, you mentioned extended warranties.. is this a bad thing? Should we go with the dealer's extended warranty or a 3rd party extended warrany or none at all? On 7/23/06, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Nick wrote: > > I never go into the financing pa

Re: Car haggling?

2006-07-23 Thread Gruss Gott
> Nick wrote: > I never go into the financing part or the trade in part until you have > the lowest price you think you can get. > Yup - always negotiate the car and the trade-in separately with the tradein first. Then, as someone suggested, offer $500 over invoice and stick tight. Plan to walk

Re: somebody help me on this?

2006-07-23 Thread Gruss Gott
> Sam wrote: > The extra embryo are available in case you > want more kids a few years later, stuck in a custody fight or people > just don't know what to do with them. > Right, so if we follow the argument to it's logical legal conclusion it would be that a couple shouldn't be able to do that. T

RE: Car haggling?

2006-07-23 Thread Nick McClure
Edmunds.com usually has this info for free. > -Original Message- > From: Scott Stroz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2006 8:14 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Car haggling? > > Start by finding out what the car actaully costs the dealership. Consumer > Reports is

RE: Car haggling?

2006-07-23 Thread Nick McClure
I never go into the financing part or the trade in part until you have the lowest price you think you can get. If you don't think they are playing fair, walk, so long as they try to keep you there talking you are in the ballpark. You go to low; they'll let you leave. > -Original Message