Re: Gas Station Jihad?

2007-08-12 Thread Larry Lyons
>it shouldn't be the employers place to do what? Pay the least? I >missed something here surely. > Its always been the case that you get what you pay for. If you want to pay crap wages all you get is crap. ~| ColdFusion is deli

Re: Gas Station Jihad?

2007-08-12 Thread Dana
And so does mine. So what? Dana On 8/12/07, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Obviously my description was over simplified, but the point remains the > same. > > We do have distinct national cultures. > > -Original Message- > From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, August 1

RE: Gas Station Jihad?

2007-08-12 Thread Loathe
Obviously my description was over simplified, but the point remains the same. We do have distinct national cultures. -Original Message- From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2007 1:37 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Gas Station Jihad? yeah and it isn't worth fig

Re: Nobody has commented on this?

2007-08-12 Thread Dana
I found it. It wasn't CAIR, it was a Saudi charity http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/surveillance/2007-08-05-thedocument_N.htm Secret call log at heart of wiretap challenge By Paul Elias, Associated Press SAN FRANCISCO — In open court and legal filings it's referred to simply as "the Documen

Re: Nobody has commented on this?

2007-08-12 Thread Dana
hey there was a terrorist threat at the time ;) Dana On 8/12/07, Vivec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yeah well, > > I guess you now officially live in a state where you have no rights to > privacy at all. > > But it is for your own good and to protect you from Terrorists. > > Think about the child

Re: Nobody has commented on this?

2007-08-12 Thread Vivec
Yeah well, I guess you now officially live in a state where you have no rights to privacy at all. But it is for your own good and to protect you from Terrorists. Think about the children. On 8/12/07, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Also the law allows listening to conversations "about" a for

Re: Nobody has commented on this?

2007-08-12 Thread Dana
there actually was a court case headed to trial. It is moot now. I need to finish something for work, but i'll post the link later if nobody has found it. I thnk it was CAIR attorneys. I grant you that some of their clients might in fact be bad peopel working against US interests. Certainly the rig

Re: Nobody has commented on this?

2007-08-12 Thread Dana
read up on it a bit. You are not allowed to sue. On 8/12/07, Vivec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What some folk will say is that it will not stand up to a challenge in court. > But that challenge has to come from someone :) > > ~

Re: Gas Station Jihad?

2007-08-12 Thread Dana
yeah and it isn't worth fighting over :) Side note, as a half-Irish Quebecoise who lives in the Southwestern US, I have to say that I think you underestimate the importance both of the Irish in Canada and of Native Americans in the US. In Canada they say First Nations by the way, since the Native

RE: Nobody has commented on this?

2007-08-12 Thread Loathe
Who has to be able to prove the system was used against them, but the records are secret so you can't prove you're on the list. It's the ACLU case all over again. -Original Message- From: Vivec [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2007 1:00 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re:

RE: Nobody has commented on this?

2007-08-12 Thread Loathe
No anyone with any business savvy at all (and politicians are businessmen, they're just working for votes instead of dollars) knows at least the basics of the internet, email and blackberry and IM. This is just ludicrous. -Original Message- From: Robert Munn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sen

RE: Gas Station Jihad?

2007-08-12 Thread Loathe
There is a real Canadian culture. If you think the blend of native Americans, French and English wouldn't be different from our Irish, Spanish, English background. You're culture values things differently than we do. While not pacifist you have a longer fuse than we do, are more diplomatic. We

Re: Nobody has commented on this?

2007-08-12 Thread Vivec
What some folk will say is that it will not stand up to a challenge in court. But that challenge has to come from someone :) ~| Check out the new features and enhancements in the latest product release - download the "What's New P

Re: Nobody has commented on this?

2007-08-12 Thread Robert Munn
anyone old enough to be in congress is almost guaranteed to be unaware of the ramifications of this bill... On 8/12/07, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "If Congress once again allows itself to be cowed by Mr. Bush's > fear-mongering, it must accept responsibility for undermining the > democratic

Re: Gas Station Jihad?

2007-08-12 Thread Dana
this is not a sine qua non. Sweden and Turkey don't have a lot in common. I am actually rather flattered by the reference to a theoretical Canadian culture though... you sweet-talker you :) hehe. Dana On 8/12/07, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Because the governments and cultures of Canada a

RE: Gas Station Jihad?

2007-08-12 Thread Loathe
Because the governments and cultures of Canada and Mexico do not follow the social and moral norms of the United States. I am a nationalist. Not a trans-nationalist, not a globalist. The United States of America is my nation, my people, my culture, and my society. -Original Message- Fro

Nobody has commented on this?

2007-08-12 Thread Dana
"If Congress once again allows itself to be cowed by Mr. Bush's fear-mongering, it must accept responsibility for undermining the democratic values that separate this nation from the terrorists that Mr. Bush claims to be fighting. http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/11/opinion/11sat1.html?hp It allows

Re: Gas Station Jihad?

2007-08-12 Thread Dana
so why would you not be in favor of a European-Union-type model? Dana On 8/12/07, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes I believe in minimal government intrusion, not no intrusion at all. > > -Original Message- > From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2007 3:19

RE: Gas Station Jihad?

2007-08-12 Thread Loathe
Yes I believe in minimal government intrusion, not no intrusion at all. -Original Message- From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2007 3:19 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Gas Station Jihad? so wait. I am not trying to give you a hard time here, honest. But aren't

RE: Justifiable?

2007-08-12 Thread Adam Churvis
I can only speak to my own experience. When I went to a karaoke bar and sang "I'm too sexy for my shirt" and started taking my shirt off, the crowd screamed, apparently due to bleeding eye sockets. Then I was shot. Twice. So a few weeks later I tried to leverage my new gunshot wounds and starte

RE: althzheimers...what to do?

2007-08-12 Thread Adam Churvis
> We caught it very early, and he's responding well to Aricept, but I don't > know if I can handle the slope he's gonna slide down.. You can, and you will. Is he a great man? Well, you're his son, and the fruit doesn't fall far from the tree. It helps to ask yourself, What would he do for me?

Re: Gas Station Jihad?

2007-08-12 Thread Dana
so wait. I am not trying to give you a hard time here, honest. But aren't you the one who advocates a minimum of government regulation? Or do I have you mixed up with Gruss? By the way, I have no particular agenda in terms of illegal aliens. They are illegal for a start, which is cartainly a probl