Re: ASP.net as a new language.

2008-03-02 Thread Maureen
I code in both CF and .Net - there iare no one to one equivalences. It takes about 4 to 5 times as long to do a task .net as it does in CF. ..Net programmers are going to cost you more per hour than CF programmers with equivelent experience and will take many more hours to get the work done.

Re: New Electric Cars!

2008-03-02 Thread Vivec
Hell yeah! But...I would actually wait for them to produce a more refined version. That first Tesla sports car is really just a Go Fast machine. The car also has a Manual Rack and Pinion steering, so you'll build some muscle just driving it. When is the last time you drove a car without power

Sunday Funnies

2008-03-02 Thread Bruce Sorge
While walking down the street one day a US senator is tragically hit by a truck and dies. His soul arrives in heaven and is met by St. Peter at the entrance. Welcome to heaven, says St. Peter. Before you settle in, it seems there is a problem. We seldom see a high official around these

RE: New Electric Cars!

2008-03-02 Thread Jeff Garza
In regards to the power steering issue... All they have to do is license it from Toyota. The Prius has electric boost power steering that will work even when the engine is shut down. It also has an all electric air conditioning compressor. Cool stuff! -- Jeff -Original Message-

RE: New Electric Cars!

2008-03-02 Thread Adam Churvis
True sports cars shouldn't have power steering. My tricked 280Z (the first car I ever owned) back in the eighties had plain 'ol rack-and-pinion steering and handled like it was on rails. I could feel every little nuance of the road through the steering wheel. And yes, you did build some muscle

Re: obama and iraq

2008-03-02 Thread Dana
yay :) On 3/1/08, Paul Ihrig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: just voted here in ohio obama! ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial

Re: New Electric Cars!

2008-03-02 Thread Vivec
Yes well... what about people that want all that sports car feel, but want to steer from monday to Saturday with their pinky finger and on Sunday give it a whirl? I think that they will start offering power steering as an option after they sell a few. But yes I hear you about the road feedback.

Re: obama and iraq

2008-03-02 Thread Dana
There is a Canadian teenager who has been in Guantanamo for six years for throwing a rock at a soldier in Afghanistan. I don't condone throwing rocks at soldiers, but that seems little disproportionate, esp since the soldier was not injured. I worry about a system that labels children who think

Re: obama and iraq

2008-03-02 Thread Dana
I agree. Some of Bruce's opinion scare the hell out of me but I think they are honest beliefs. He has also shown from time to time a willingness to re-examine them, which is the most important thing imho. Still Bruce trade freedom from the govrenment for safety? That only works if the

Weekly Standard On Obama

2008-03-02 Thread Gruss Gott
Reagan beat Jimmy Carter in 1980 by attracting disaffected Democrats in millions. They did not jump to Reagan because Mr Carter was a particularly leftwing Democrat. Nor did Reagan appeal by watering his positions down into centrist mush. He ran as an unapologetic conservative, just as Mr Obama

Prince Harry Vs. Jenna Bush

2008-03-02 Thread Gruss Gott
As recently noted, Jenna Bush is returning from her bachelorette party in Boca at roughly the same time Price Harry is returning from combat in Iraq. Here's a comparison of their experiences: PRINCE HARRY Goal is to spread: Freedom Builds:Character Helpful for:

Re: Weekly Standard On Obama

2008-03-02 Thread Michael Dinowitz
If we're voting for Obama's team then I'm voting for anyone else. There are people on it that I DON'T want in power. His preacher heads the list. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to

Re: Weekly Standard On Obama

2008-03-02 Thread Vivec
Hmm? What? his Preacher is going to be an official? Where'd you read that? Who's Hillary's preacher btw? Or for that matter...who's her doctor? Never know who might mysteriously 'get power' when she takes office ya know! ;-) On 02/03/2008, Michael Dinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If we're

Re: Weekly Standard On Obama

2008-03-02 Thread Dana
He's been reading the Weekly Standard it seems. I just did a quick google find out what the heck he is talking about. It seems his preacher is associated with a magazine that said something nice about Louis Farrakhan. Which makes him antisemitic. Seeems a bit of a reach to me. On Sun, Mar 2,

Re: Ouch!

2008-03-02 Thread Dana
ya was just checking it out... sad that people were so worried about such things... On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 9:20 AM, Larry Lyons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: btw the site's back up. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most

Re: Ouch!

2008-03-02 Thread Dana
wow, ick On Sun, Mar 2, 2008 at 12:55 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and the server is back down. On Mar 2, 2008, at 1:08 PM, Dana wrote: ya was just checking it out... sad that people were so worried about such things... On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 9:20 AM, Larry Lyons

Re: Ouch!

2008-03-02 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
and the server is back down. On Mar 2, 2008, at 1:08 PM, Dana wrote: ya was just checking it out... sad that people were so worried about such things... On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 9:20 AM, Larry Lyons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: btw the site's back up.

Re: obama and iraq

2008-03-02 Thread Loathe
He was caught throwing the rock, after which he admitted to carrying weapons and killing Americans. Not the same thing Dana, tell the rest of the story. Dana wrote: There is a Canadian teenager who has been in Guantanamo for six years for throwing a rock at a soldier in Afghanistan. I don't

Re: obama and iraq

2008-03-02 Thread Dana
wow. You carry weapons don't you? People do that quite a bit in war zones? I am sorry, but I can't get past the notion that here is a Canadian citizen who has been held incommunicado for five years. And he's what, 18? Now? If he did throw the rock, perhaps he should have been treated as a child

RE: New Electric Cars!

2008-03-02 Thread Adam Churvis
What you just described isn't sport; it's luxury. And the electronic systems you mentioned don't provide road feedback (there are no force-feedback systems for cars that I know of). In fact, most of the higher-end fast cars today have some sort of automatic compensation system that

Re: Weekly Standard On Obama

2008-03-02 Thread Michael Dinowitz
I'll deal with his preacher in Dana's post but as for his team: http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1203589810710pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FPrinter The opposite is the case with the Obama team. Headed up by Jimmy Carter's (Israel is an apartheid state) national security advisor,

Re: New Electric Cars!

2008-03-02 Thread Maureen
On Sun, Mar 2, 2008 at 4:36 AM, Vivec [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hell yeah! But...I would actually wait for them to produce a more refined version. That first Tesla sports car is really just a Go Fast machine. I like go fast. But I will probably wait for a later version, just cause I need time

Re: Weekly Standard On Obama

2008-03-02 Thread Michael Dinowitz
Weekly standard? I've never been to its site but your tone on it makes me want to at least look at it. No, I'm looking at other information including Wright's own speeches (and I'm skipping over any Farakan stuff as you seem to think it has no meaning). In sermons and interviews, Dr. Wright has

Re: Trust the media

2008-03-02 Thread Michael Dinowitz
More Americans turning to Web for news NEW YORK (Reuters) - Nearly 70 percent of Americans believe traditional journalism is out of touch, and nearly half are turning to the Internet to get their news, according to a new survey. While most people think journalism is important to the quality of

Re: Weekly Standard On Obama

2008-03-02 Thread Robert Munn
Obama is going to win the primary, but he is way too liberal for the general election. His voting record is going to be his downfall come November. On Sun, Mar 2, 2008 at 9:11 AM, Gruss Gwrote: Reagan beat Jimmy Carter in 1980 by attracting disaffected Democrats in millions. They did not jump

Re: obama and iraq

2008-03-02 Thread Maureen
They may be honest, but they strike me as uninformed, probably due to age. Thinking that the release of the Pentagon Papers was a bad thing shows an abysmal lack of knowledge about exactly what happened in Vietnam. The media not did start, fight or lose the Vietnam war or the Iraq war. Those in

Re: obama and iraq

2008-03-02 Thread Loathe
Thems the breaks, tough shit. If I am captured I will be tortured, an most likely have my head cut off. I wouldn't send my son's to do that at 14. Cry me a river. Dana wrote: wow. You carry weapons don't you? People do that quite a bit in war zones? I am sorry, but I can't get past the

Re: ASP.net as a new language.

2008-03-02 Thread Robert Munn
Forget about .NET. Get some coders who know other languages and train them in CF development. Anyone who know OOP and scripting can learn enough CF in a few weeks to be productive. On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 8:30 AM, James Smith wrote: We are having trouble finding CF coders in our area so are

Re: obama and iraq

2008-03-02 Thread Dana
uh-- I don't think Bruce is all that young. Seems to me he has a teenaged daughter. On 3/2/08, Maureen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They may be honest, but they strike me as uninformed, probably due to age. Thinking that the release of the Pentagon Papers was a bad thing shows an abysmal lack of

Re: obama and iraq

2008-03-02 Thread Dana
ok. So the difference between the good and the bad guys is what again exactly? On 3/2/08, Loathe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thems the breaks, tough shit. If I am captured I will be tortured, an most likely have my head cut off. I wouldn't send my son's to do that at 14. Cry me a river.

Re: obama and iraq

2008-03-02 Thread Robert Munn
This is the basic problem with the Left- a total inability to understand that people who plant bombs in schools and mosques and cut off children's heads for disobedience are evil. On Sun, Mar 2, 2008 at 7:57 PM, Dana wrote: ok. So the difference between the good and the bad guys is what again