Re: Washington Post Ombudsman - We favored Obama in campaign coverage

2008-11-08 Thread Gruss Gott
> RoMunn wrote: > Duh. > Hey, what's the Fox News Ombudsman say about their coverage? You probably spend 99.9% of your media consumption time on Fox News, Drudge, and other biased outlets that you admit are biased and they admit are biased. Then you complain about biased media. HA! (oh, the 0.

Re: Thoughts on national service

2008-11-08 Thread Gruss Gott
> Judah wrote: > What do people think about the idea of mandatory national service? > Git 'er done. I'd like to see it combined with a revamped educational system that pushed college out 2 years from HS graduation and during which time there was all kinds of public and private internship opportun

Silverton, Oregon elects transgendered mayor

2008-11-08 Thread Judah McAuley
Thought to be the first openly transgendered elected official in the country. http://blog.oregonlive.com/multimedia/2008/11/post_9.html Silverton is far far far from a liberal, hippy town, but Stu is a local and they thought he had what it took to be Mayor. Way to go. ~~~

Thoughts on national service

2008-11-08 Thread Judah McAuley
Obama is proposing a pretty broad program of national service geared toward middle school, high school and college students. At one point it was being discussed as mandatory. Now the language looks to have softened. http://change.gov/americaserves/ What do people think about the idea of mandatory

Re: ohhhh no... not this shit...

2008-11-08 Thread Judah McAuley
On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 9:53 AM, Scott Stroz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I find the term 'genius' as you have used it hear is serves to demonize the > person and make them seem less human. As for the use of the word 'genius' there, I wouldn't say demonize. I don't think it implies that Sam is evil

Re: goodbye red states!

2008-11-08 Thread Jerry Barnes
"In other words, Republican=social-conservative right now and that's the opposite of me so if that's the new Republican party they lost me, my wife, and everyone on chart #2." I think what you say is the perception of Republicans. It is important to distinguish conservatives from Republicans thou

Re: goodbye red states!

2008-11-08 Thread Larry Lyons
>I have since recanted this view. See the other thread where he called >the Pbama Philadephia speech on race relations "racists." What do you expect from someone who has to take off his shoes and socks to count beyond 10. I imagine he gets into trouble if he has to go past20. I shudder to think

Re: Friday funny

2008-11-08 Thread Dana
I got a couple of paragraphs into it and lost interest. A lot of sour grapes going around right now I guess. On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 11:14 AM, William Bowen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> http://iowahawk.typepad.com/iowahawk/2008/11/election-analysis-america-can-take-pride-in-this-historic-inspirati

Re: David Goggins - More than human?

2008-11-08 Thread Erika L. Walker
Wow. Quite the endurance junky. Very admirable. On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 1:23 PM, Cameron Childress <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > Holy crap - that reads like a list of Chuck Norris accomplishments, > only David Groggins really did them. The video on the website is cool > too. > > -Cameron > >

Re: Open Book (was Re: Election Day Photo Thread)

2008-11-08 Thread Erika L. Walker
Gotcha Denny :) no worries. And yeah, Judah summed it up exactly! In perfection. Thank you. :) On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 10:32 AM, denstar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Judah, as usual, said it quite well. > > Props on the pop-eye, btw, youprobably have ESP. > > ~

Re: Change is here!

2008-11-08 Thread Dana
wow. There is a suggestion boxhttp://change.gov/page/s/yourvision On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 4:15 PM, Judah McAuley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That's a nice website. Clean design, good html, use of jquery, pngs, > accessibility built in, they even have "jump to navigation and jump to > conte

Washington Post Ombudsman - We favored Obama in campaign coverage

2008-11-08 Thread Robert Munn
Duh. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/11/07/AR2008110702895.html "The Post provided a lot of good campaign coverage, but readers have been consistently critical of the lack of probing issues coverage and what they saw as a tilt toward Democrat Barack Obama

Re: WEEGS! For You Butha

2008-11-08 Thread Paul Ihrig
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Re: goodbye red states!

2008-11-08 Thread Gruss Gott
> JB wrote: >> That's extremely bad news for the Republicans: they're essentially losing >> the wealth and the young. >> > > According to CNN, 22% of voters called themselves liberal, 44% called > themselves moderate, and 34% called themselves conservative. > http://redbluerichpoor.com/blog/?p=206

Re: David Goggins - More than human?

2008-11-08 Thread Cameron Childress
Holy crap - that reads like a list of Chuck Norris accomplishments, only David Groggins really did them. The video on the website is cool too. -Cameron On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 12:27 PM, Vivec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Inspirational. > I need to start exercising. > really. > > "David Goggins is

WEEGS! For You Butha

2008-11-08 Thread Gruss Gott
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Re: ohhhh no... not this shit...

2008-11-08 Thread Sam
Fair share? He does most of it and then cries if someone else does it. On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 9:53 AM, Scott Stroz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I find the term 'genius' as you have used it hear is serves to demonize the > person and make them seem less human. > > For someone who complains about na

Re: ohhhh no... not this shit...

2008-11-08 Thread Scott Stroz
I find the term 'genius' as you have used it hear is serves to demonize the person and make them seem less human. For someone who complains about name calling, you sure do your fair share of it. On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 12:02 PM, Larry Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > hey genius a speech cannot

Re: ohhhh no... not this shit...

2008-11-08 Thread Sam
Stop please :) You made that up. On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 9:50 AM, Vivec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Almost every single professional analyst and follower of presidential > speeches says you are totally wrong. > ~| Adobe® ColdFus

Re: goodbye red states!

2008-11-08 Thread Sam
All the arrogance on this list comes from just a couple of you and it's very tiring. Let's just say the person that thinks he or she is the smartest in the room usually isn't even close. On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 9:46 AM, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > he THINKS he is smarter than everyone who do

Re: ohhhh no... not this shit...

2008-11-08 Thread Dana
hey did someone hear a teeny tiny little mosquito buzz? On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 10:44 AM, Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It wasn't a good speech and it wasn't an important speech. It was a mistake. > Unless you want it to be. It can be anything you want it to be. Just > don't try to sell it to me

Re: ohhhh no... not this shit...

2008-11-08 Thread Vivec
Almost every single professional analyst and follower of presidential speeches says you are totally wrong. 2008/11/8 Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > It wasn't a good speech and it wasn't an important speech. It was a mistake. > Unless you want it to be. It can be anything you want it to be. Just > don'

Re: goodbye red states!

2008-11-08 Thread Dana
hey mamamaureen, nobody is smarter than you... if ma ain't happy ain't nobody happy. On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 2:09 PM, Maureen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Oh yeah.. I forgot about you. And Erika, Dana, tony, Scott, Bruce, > and several hundred others on here. > > On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 12:58

Re: goodbye red states!

2008-11-08 Thread Dana
he THINKS he is smarter than everyone who doesn't listen to Rush On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 1:25 PM, Maureen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > LOL. Sam thinks he's smarter than me. I'm shattered. > > On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 12:19 PM, Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I wouldn't mind if smart people called

Re: ohhhh no... not this shit...

2008-11-08 Thread Sam
It wasn't a good speech and it wasn't an important speech. It was a mistake. Unless you want it to be. It can be anything you want it to be. Just don't try to sell it to me :) On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 9:08 AM, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Probably the most important speech on race relations of

Re: goodbye red states!

2008-11-08 Thread Dana
I have since recanted this view. See the other thread where he called the Pbama Philadephia speech on race relations "racists." On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 1:16 PM, Maureen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Er..we do? > > On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 11:33 AM, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We believe you are

David Goggins - More than human?

2008-11-08 Thread Vivec
Inspirational. I need to start exercising. really. "David Goggins is not your typical endurance athlete. This 6ft1, 195-pound competitor looks more like a pro football player than an ultrarunner. Goggins is also unique in several less visible ways. At 32, he's younger than most of his peers, who

Re: ohhhh no... not this shit...

2008-11-08 Thread Sam
I definitely meant for that extra "s" to be there. I should write this down so I don't make that mistake again. On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 9:02 AM, Larry Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > hey genius a speech cannot be a person, you referred to it as a multiple of > racist, implying there was more th

Re: goodbye red states!

2008-11-08 Thread Sam
How's you're PHD going? On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 9:01 AM, Larry Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Thanks, Bush with a hangover is still three times smarter than you :) > > Doubtful. He struggled to get a C average for his MBA. My master's GPA was a > 4.0. > > Besides given his record I don't thin

Re: ohhhh no... not this shit...

2008-11-08 Thread Dana
Probably the most important speech on race relations of our time. And you think it's racist. ky. /me wanders off shaking her head On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 9:46 AM, Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We discussed it when it came out and I still believe it's racists. > > "I can no more disown h

Re: ohhhh no... not this shit...

2008-11-08 Thread Dana
He didn't say that. He said sometimes it's a survival trait to realize that a train is coming :) On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 9:48 AM, Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't know what your talking about > > He's an ass for calling Bush a Hitler. > > On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 8:01 AM, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECT

Re: ohhhh no... not this shit...

2008-11-08 Thread Dana
> So you would have preferred putting all Mid-Easterners in Gitmo as > long as no panties were put on heads? I didn't say anything of the kind. I would *prefer* that the United States be a country of law. Internment is bad enough but torture is worse. I am merely pointing out that the two don't eq

Re: ohhhh no... not this shit...

2008-11-08 Thread Larry Lyons
hey genius a speech cannot be a person, you referred to it as a multiple of racist, implying there was more than one and they were people. >We discussed it when it came out and I still believe it's racists. > >"I can no more disown him than I can disown the black community." > >That lasted two we

Re: goodbye red states!

2008-11-08 Thread Larry Lyons
> Thanks, Bush with a hangover is still three times smarter than you :) Doubtful. He struggled to get a C average for his MBA. My master's GPA was a 4.0. Besides given his record I don't think there was a day where the shrub didn't have a hangover when he was drinking through his master's degre

Re: What are you listening to right now.

2008-11-08 Thread Paul Ihrig
Dead Until Dark (Southern Vampire Mysteries, Book 1) by Charlaine Harris or if you have HBO - True Blood. free audible.com download will cancel 14 day trial ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic r

Re: goodbye red states!

2008-11-08 Thread Sam
Thanks, Bush with a hangover is still three times smarter than you :) On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 6:54 AM, Larry Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>LOL. Sam thinks he's smarter than me. I'm shattered. > > Sam smarter? That's like calling Bush a uniter not a divider. At times Sam > acts like he has a

Re: goodbye red states!

2008-11-08 Thread Sam
Instead of discussing that nonsense, do you agree that the poor and uneducated, that voted overwhelmingly for Obama, are better at picking an economy saver? On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 5:14 PM, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I love 'em! That's why we need to get rid of all these loser CEOs >

Re: ohhhh no... not this shit...

2008-11-08 Thread Sam
On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 8:08 AM, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > really? I think not. The data is still being collected and Guantanamo > still exists. The scale may be smalled than internment, but nobody > waterboarded those Japanese. So you would have preferred putting all Mid-Easterners in Gitm

Re: ohhhh no... not this shit...

2008-11-08 Thread Sam
I don't know what your talking about He's an ass for calling Bush a Hitler. On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 8:01 AM, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > you are saying we should not be??? And you call yourself a conservative? > >>> Be VERY terrified of government. >> >> You're such an ass > ~~~

Re: ohhhh no... not this shit...

2008-11-08 Thread Sam
We discussed it when it came out and I still believe it's racists. "I can no more disown him than I can disown the black community." That lasted two weeks :) On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 7:34 AM, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > wow. Sam, I take back the statement I made the other day to the effect >

Re: What are you listening to right now.

2008-11-08 Thread Dana
Slabo Day by Peter Green. Made a Pandora channel out of it. On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 6:03 PM, denstar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Server hum. > > Gonna put on some thumping electro-whatsit type dub vibe-ish tunes now > that everyone else is gone tho. > > Loves me sub-woofer. > > -- > He who is to b

Re: Open Book (was Re: Election Day Photo Thread)

2008-11-08 Thread Dana
I think what Erika says is up to her. I do sometimes bite my tongue, reminding myself how heavily this list is spidered. When it comes to political stuff though -- for the past few years it has felt wrong to NOT speak up. Even if it was just here. On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 9:14 PM, Judah McAuley <[EM

Re: ohhhh no... not this shit...

2008-11-08 Thread Dana
really? I think not. The data is still being collected and Guantanamo still exists. The scale may be smalled than internment, but nobody waterboarded those Japanese. What exactly "unraveled"? The Bushies got caught stacking the Justice Department and election fraud has now been conclusively demon

Re: ohhhh no... not this shit...

2008-11-08 Thread Dana
I am not. I do not think there is a lot of room for complacency. It would be very easy for Obama be be co-opted into the whole "bail us out or the economy tanks" meme that is floating around. > There is still a long hard road ahead. Success is not guaranteed, but > I'm sure we'll all be fine, no

Re: ohhhh no... not this shit...

2008-11-08 Thread Dana
you are saying we should not be??? And you call yourself a conservative? >> Be VERY terrified of government. > > You're such an ass -- We don't want a bigger slice of the pie. We want a different pie. - Winona LaDuke ~| Adobe®

Re: ohhhh no... not this shit...

2008-11-08 Thread Dana
> He gave us the death spiral trifecta...and yet...here we are today, still > alive. How 'bout that? the people *woke up* thank god. The mental image i have is of a driver who dozes off on the tracks at a railway cross and wakes up with a start and drives off when the train blows its horn. Surviva

Re: ohhhh no... not this shit...

2008-11-08 Thread Dana
wow. Sam, I take back the statement I made the other day to the effect that you were smart. Holy invincible gnorance, Batman! On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 10:45 AM, Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It says a lot about the person that he would call such crap an > inspirational speech. > :P > > > On Fri

Good article about entrepreneurs

2008-11-08 Thread Jerry Johnson
http://www.agencysacks.com/clients/pdfs/ArgentMagazine.pdf I enjoyed it. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;

Re: Open Book (was Re: Election Day Photo Thread)

2008-11-08 Thread denstar
Oh snap! :-) Didn't mean to imply *that* at all, E /w K! I more meant that whatever is clever, actually. You are quite ballsy, homegirl. Sharing personal shit doesn't make one more brave or whatnot. It can quite often be rather stupid, so use it with caution (like with a sudo-name). Judah, a

Re: goodbye red states!

2008-11-08 Thread Larry Lyons
>He simply made a sweeping statement without any facts to back it up, >and without remembering that the governor of California is neither >liberal or Democrat. Then he backpedaled and resorted to his usual >disinformation nonsense when he was called on the facts. Then he got >silly and accusatory

Re: ohhhh no... not this shit...

2008-11-08 Thread denstar
You take your freedoms and liberties, "America", for granted at your own peril. Is not laughable, IMHO, It wasn't America's intrinsicness that prevented us from traveling further down the wrong road, the many times we've started on it. It was good people, speaking out. That's not a "sure thing"

Re: should the government rescue the auto industry?

2008-11-08 Thread Dana
the plan is always to retrofit, every time they ask for a bailout, and to my understanding they always fail to do so. How many second chances should they get? I say take the short-term pain and deal with the actual problem -- those companies do not know how to build something people want to buy. O

Re: should the government rescue the auto industry?

2008-11-08 Thread Dana
I am not sure you are correct about Obama. He seems to be avoiding entanglement with the financial services bailout; wisely in my opinion. I think his vote for the plan was a mistake and the plan is a disaster. As for the auto industry, my answer is hell no. On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 1:46 PM, Robert

Re: goodbye red states!

2008-11-08 Thread Larry Lyons
>LOL. Sam thinks he's smarter than me. I'm shattered. Sam smarter? That's like calling Bush a uniter not a divider. At times Sam acts like he has all the intelligence of the shrub with a bad hangover. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8

Re: should the government rescue the auto industry?

2008-11-08 Thread Jerry Barnes
"A bridge loan is not a bailout." In name. It still allows the same people who ran the business into the ground to stay in power. It bails them out. The loans should be tied, if they happen, should be tied to job evaluations for high level administration. That will never happen. ~

Re: IT's FRIDAY!!!!

2008-11-08 Thread Bruce Sorge
Well of course I am. I have heard from others that Australian women love Americans in this order: White, Brown, Black. Not sure if if this is true but I think that I will make Australia my vacation spot. Not sure if it is going to be Brisbane, Sydney or Melbourne. I am thinking of staying away from

Re: goodbye red states!

2008-11-08 Thread Jerry Barnes
> That's extremely bad news for the Republicans: they're essentially losing > the wealth and the young. > According to CNN, 22% of voters called themselves liberal, 44% called themselves moderate, and 34% called themselves conservative. http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/results/polls/#USP00p1 See