Re: undelete software

2009-01-20 Thread denstar
On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 6:56 PM, Scott Raley -ITC wrote: > Server is going offline and I disabled the share since this happened today. > I'm trying out http://www.easeus.com/datarecoverywizardpro/download.htm > which was recommended on Expert Exchange but volume shadow copying was > disabled so tha

Re: Obama Inauguration Thread

2009-01-20 Thread Gruss Gott
> RoMunn wrote: > come off as "laughing with" the target of the joke, and that comes down to > power relationships. There is nothing funny about the powerful mocking the > powerless, it's just cruel. > Hey, that's a really good analysis Robert. You're exactly right, it's about the power in the re

Re: Last words on Bush

2009-01-20 Thread Gruss Gott
> RoMunn wrote: > That is not totally accurate. If your wife racks up huge credit card bills > to ruin your credit prior to divorce proceedings, you can have your credit > separated from hers and you can be shielded from her misdeeds. > Maybe, maybe not, but then that'd be what you're suing for.

Re: Wow! Holy Snub

2009-01-20 Thread Sam
Maybe he should help them like he helped Chicago. He made a lot of promises there. On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 6:39 PM, Larry Lyons wrote: >>Speaking of being dickish... >> >>Great way to start the change >>http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0109/17700.html > > Mind you most of the promises made in

Re: Wow! Holy Snub

2009-01-20 Thread Sam
On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 5:06 PM, Gruss Gott wrote: > If Bush perceived that as a problem why didn't he replace Greenspan, > deal with it through Treasury, or go public with problem? That's my complaint. > Didn't Bush in fact wholly endorse lowering rates to the tune of 11 > times in 2001? And

Re: CFQuery and grouping

2009-01-20 Thread Judah McAuley
I assume its done but if any other help is needed, I'm here now after putting the munchkin to sleep :) On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 8:26 PM, Maureen wrote: > You're welcome. > > On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 8:21 PM, Erika L. Walker wrote: >> Thank you Maureen :) >> >> On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 11:10 PM,

Re: Obama Inauguration Thread

2009-01-20 Thread Maureen
That's not what I said. On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 8:02 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > So, its ok to ridicule as long as its not one of those ethnic nd social > groups you are a member of? > > When did this country lose the ability to laugh at itself? > > On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 10:44 PM, Maureen wrote:

Re: CFQuery and grouping

2009-01-20 Thread Maureen
You're welcome. On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 8:21 PM, Erika L. Walker wrote: > Thank you Maureen :) > > On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 11:10 PM, Maureen wrote: > >> I'm here. What you need? >> >> On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 8:05 PM, Erika L. Walker >> wrote: >> > I need a hand - anyone here really good at

Re: Obama Inauguration Thread

2009-01-20 Thread Judah McAuley
Canadians! Thanks, I'll be here all night. Try the veal. On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 5:27 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > It _should_ be socially acceptable to mock any group. If you can't laugh at > other people, who can you laugh at? > > On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 8:25 PM, Robert Munn wrote: > >> Exactly,

Re: Last words on Bush

2009-01-20 Thread Robert Munn
That is not totally accurate. If your wife racks up huge credit card bills to ruin your credit prior to divorce proceedings, you can have your credit separated from hers and you can be shielded from her misdeeds. On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 7:08 PM, Gruss G wrote: > > Dino wrote: > > It's her call an

Re: CFQuery and grouping

2009-01-20 Thread Erika L. Walker
Thank you Maureen :) On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 11:10 PM, Maureen wrote: > I'm here. What you need? > > On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 8:05 PM, Erika L. Walker > wrote: > > I need a hand - anyone here really good at group by's? In the next 20 > > minutes? > > ~~

Re: Obama Inauguration Thread

2009-01-20 Thread Robert Munn
The difference to me is laughing with someone versus laughing at someone. Laughing with someone, or "gentle ribbing", as Maureen calls it, is fine, but it is a hard sell, for instance, for a white man to tell black jokes and come off as "laughing with" the target of the joke, and that comes down to

Re: CFQuery and grouping

2009-01-20 Thread Maureen
I'm here. What you need? On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 8:05 PM, Erika L. Walker wrote: > I need a hand - anyone here really good at group by's? In the next 20 > minutes? ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dr

CFQuery and grouping

2009-01-20 Thread Erika L. Walker
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Re: [Gym Rat] Leg Day

2009-01-20 Thread Erika L. Walker
No we don't - but damn they look like fun! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqzrb67Dwf8 We'll have to add those in. Abs-olutely. Holding a medicine ball over our head during a squat eh? We'll have to try that as well. When I first started lunges, I couldn't get through 4 short ones. Then I had to

Re: Obama Inauguration Thread

2009-01-20 Thread Scott Stroz
So, its ok to ridicule as long as its not one of those ethnic nd social groups you are a member of? When did this country lose the ability to laugh at itself? On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 10:44 PM, Maureen wrote: > Sorry. As a member of a wide variety of ethnic and social groups that > are subject

Re: Obama Inauguration Thread

2009-01-20 Thread Maureen
Sorry. As a member of a wide variety of ethnic and social groups that are subject of frequent ridicule, I find it hard to have any sympathy for the "man" - especially upper class white men.If a white president was mocking blacks, it would be racism. The gentle ribbing of white men today was h

Re: Obama Inauguration Thread

2009-01-20 Thread Michael Dinowitz
If it was a white president with a mocking of blacks during the inauguration, we'd all be up in arms over the overt racism. But I guess the new America, where racism is a thing of the past, is really just the same old America with a changing of the race on top. The more people talk about racial eq

Re: Obama Inauguration Thread

2009-01-20 Thread Gruss Gott
> Mo wrote: > It just hasn't always been safe for a black man to mock a white man. > That has changed. Payback's a bitch. > Nope, Dino's right - there's a double standard. If a black guy says to a white guy, "dude, you're SO white" it's pretty socially acceptable. I could even see hearing some

Re: need a graphic artist for a small job

2009-01-20 Thread Joel Polsky
One question.. IF the graphics are not licensed in the buyout -- were they ever licensed at all??? Have them check the licensing on the graphics -- I be they are licensed for use no matter who owns the site. On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 10:12 PM, Paul Ihrig wrote: > can do.. > need money for guns and

Re: [Gym Rat] Leg Day

2009-01-20 Thread Gruss Gott
> Dino wrote: > You've got to hang with Ben Nadel. He lifts. > Hey, he's a t-nation.com fan too so you know he's got cred :) Pretty kick ass resume too. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic relea

Re: Obama Inauguration Thread

2009-01-20 Thread Maureen
It has always been socially acceptable to mock white men. Just watch anything from Hollywood in, oh, the last 100 years. Ralph Kramden, Archie Bucker, Al Bundy, Homer Simpson. There are an infinite number of jokes about the overwhelming incompetency of white men. Can't dance, can't jump, shor

Re: [Gym Rat] Leg Day

2009-01-20 Thread Gruss Gott
> Eri-k-a wrote: > We do 5 sets of Leg Extensions, one set of Dumbbell Squats. > Then 5 sets of individual leg curls, followed by one set of deep lunges. > > Then we do 5 sets of Calf raises, followed by one set of individual Calf > raises on a raised platform. (Those hurt!) > > Then it's Ab time.

Re: [Gym Rat] Leg Day

2009-01-20 Thread Gruss Gott
> Dino wrote: > You've got to hang with Ben Nadel. He lifts. > Ha! Cool. I read this: http://www.bennadel.com/blog/1465-Project-HUGE-My-First-Leg-Workout-After-Active-Release-Technique-ART-.htm The poster there is, sadly, so so true ... :( His post injury workout would be like my greatest day

Re: need a graphic artist for a small job

2009-01-20 Thread Paul Ihrig
can do.. need money for guns and ammo On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 9:43 PM, Larry Lyons wrote: >> My client is buying out from a contract for their website and they >> want me to take is over. The buyout provides a static snapshot of the >> site's html, but they are stripping out the graphics saying

Re: Last words on Bush

2009-01-20 Thread Gruss Gott
> Dino wrote: > It's her call and I'll back her up. If I was available, we would probably > talk about it. And we keep each other in the loop. > For my wife and I, and according to the law, whatever decision she would make I am responsible for. Credit, for example. This is where you can see the

Re: [Gym Rat] Leg Day

2009-01-20 Thread Michael Dinowitz
You've got to hang with Ben Nadel. He lifts. On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 9:48 PM, Gruss Gott wrote: > Well tonight was leg night and I gotta say it's my least favorite workout. > > I do 5 sets of squats, then 3 supersets of leg curl & calf raise, and > then 3 supersets of leg press & leg extension.

Re: [Gym Rat] Leg Day

2009-01-20 Thread Erika L. Walker
Wow that's a lot of leg work. I love leg day. Then again I don't do 5 sets of squats. OOF! We do 5 sets of Leg Extensions, one set of Dumbbell Squats. Then 5 sets of individual leg curls, followed by one set of deep lunges. Then we do 5 sets of Calf raises, followed by one set of individual Calf

Re: You can truly buy anything online

2009-01-20 Thread Mary Jo Sminkey
As kind of a funny side-note, I am currently in the Amazon Vine program where we get free products each month to review (sorry, invitation only!) A few months back one of the items was a K-Y Jelly. We had a good time discussing exactly how one would "review" that! ~~~

Re: You can truly buy anything online

2009-01-20 Thread Mary Jo Sminkey
>Did you read the comments? Hysterical ... :) Oh definitely, those are the best part! Would love to have the job at Amazon approving reviews and having those come across your screen... ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the

Re: Last words on Bush

2009-01-20 Thread Michael Dinowitz
It's her call and I'll back her up. If I was available, we would probably talk about it. And we keep each other in the loop. On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 4:11 PM, Gruss Gott wrote: > > Dino wrote: > > joint decisions. We also make individual decisions. We take > responsibility > > for what we do both

[Gym Rat] Leg Day

2009-01-20 Thread Gruss Gott
Well tonight was leg night and I gotta say it's my least favorite workout. I do 5 sets of squats, then 3 supersets of leg curl & calf raise, and then 3 supersets of leg press & leg extension. I should probably add in some more but oh well. I try to work in "lactic acid training" for each lifting

Re: need a graphic artist for a small job

2009-01-20 Thread Larry Lyons
> My client is buying out from a contract for their website and they > want me to take is over. The buyout provides a static snapshot of the > site's html, but they are stripping out the graphics saying that they > are not licensed as part of the buyout. I'm not great at graphics > design, so

Re: Wow! Holy Snub

2009-01-20 Thread Larry Lyons
>Speaking of being dickish... > >Great way to start the change >http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0109/17700.html Mind you most of the promises made in the wake of Katrina have not been kept, and by all appearances deliberately so. So while it may be a bit of a slam, its also very true. ~~~

Re: Obama Inauguration Thread

2009-01-20 Thread Larry Lyons
>I don't think the hat actually qualifies as Sodomy. > >But there were Supreme Court Justices in attendance, so lets see how >they rule vis-a-vis Mills vs. State of California Hard to say given what they like to wear in public. Those long dress like robes... You never know. ~~~

Re: Obama Inauguration Thread

2009-01-20 Thread Michael Dinowitz
It's now socially acceptable to mock white people in public. It was done in front of the world at the inauguration. And Obama smiled at it. But mocking blacks is still racism and mocking gays is still homophobia. On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 8:27 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > It _should_ be socially accep

Re: You can truly buy anything online

2009-01-20 Thread Erika L. Walker
Did you read the comments? Hysterical ... :) On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 5:05 PM, Mary Jo Sminkey wrote: > It's fun seeing some of the stuff that shows up on Amazon these days. My > previous favorite was the Badonkadonk tank: > > http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00067F1CE > > But now there's this: >

RE: undelete software

2009-01-20 Thread Scott Raley -ITC
Server is going offline and I disabled the share since this happened today. I'm trying out http://www.easeus.com/datarecoverywizardpro/download.htm which was recommended on Expert Exchange but volume shadow copying was disabled so that is not helping. -Original Message- From: denstar [mail

Re: undelete software

2009-01-20 Thread denstar
On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 5:50 PM, Scott Raley -ITC wrote: > Anyone recommend software for this problem. Someone was on a public share > drive and deleted a folder that had a peachtree database in it that I need > to recover. The share is on SBS 2003 Premium. Of course its not in anyone's > recycle b

Re: Obama Inauguration Thread

2009-01-20 Thread Charlie Griefer
just my interpretation... but i didn't take it as mocking gay people. aretha franklin's hat... *that* was mocking gay people. On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 5:27 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > It _should_ be socially acceptable to mock any group. If you can't laugh > at > other people, who can you laugh at?

Re: Obama Inauguration Thread

2009-01-20 Thread Scott Stroz
It _should_ be socially acceptable to mock any group. If you can't laugh at other people, who can you laugh at? On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 8:25 PM, Robert Munn wrote: > Exactly, because gay people are one of the last groups that are socially > acceptable to mock. > > On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 5:19 P

Re: Obama Inauguration Thread

2009-01-20 Thread Robert Munn
Exactly, because gay people are one of the last groups that are socially acceptable to mock. On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 5:19 PM, Charlie Griefer wrote: > On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 5:14 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > > On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 8:13 PM, Charlie Griefer > > wrote: > > > > > I really think he

Re: Obama Inauguration Thread

2009-01-20 Thread Charlie Griefer
On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 5:14 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 8:13 PM, Charlie Griefer > wrote: > > > I really think he was just making a funny. > > > > > and failed > funny's subjective. but my point was that i don't believe there was any malice in his intent. -- I have faile

Re: Obama Inauguration Thread

2009-01-20 Thread Scott Stroz
On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 8:13 PM, Charlie Griefer wrote: > I really think he was just making a funny. > > and failed -- Scott Stroz The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not. -- Thomas Jefferson ~

Re: Obama Inauguration Thread

2009-01-20 Thread Charlie Griefer
I really think he was just making a funny. On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 5:10 PM, Robert Munn wrote: > The issue is respect. Gruss apparently believed I might be embarrassed or > offended by a reference to gay sex, so he dropped it in there as a > schoolyard taunt. The effectiveness of the taunt is ti

Re: Obama Inauguration Thread

2009-01-20 Thread Judah McAuley
I don't think the hat actually qualifies as Sodomy. But there were Supreme Court Justices in attendance, so lets see how they rule vis-a-vis Mills vs. State of California On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 5:07 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > So, how about that hat Aretha was wearing today? > > On Tue, Jan 20, 20

Re: Obama Inauguration Thread

2009-01-20 Thread Robert Munn
The issue is respect. Gruss apparently believed I might be embarrassed or offended by a reference to gay sex, so he dropped it in there as a schoolyard taunt. The effectiveness of the taunt is tied to the traditional concept of male virility and the notion that someone who engages in gay sex is les

Re: Obama Inauguration Thread

2009-01-20 Thread Scott Stroz
So, how about that hat Aretha was wearing today? On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 7:58 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > Sodomy is a lot of fun so long as it is consensual. > > Just one of the many places that Antonin Scalia and I differ. > > On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 4:45 PM, Michael Grant [Modus IS] > wrote: >

Re: Wow! Holy Snub

2009-01-20 Thread Gruss Gott
> Sam wrote: > I imagine he thought keeping him up to speed would give him better judgment. > The housing crises was predictable for a long time yet AG kept lowering rates. > If Bush perceived that as a problem why didn't he replace Greenspan, deal with it through Treasury, or go public with probl

Re: Obama Inauguration Thread

2009-01-20 Thread Judah McAuley
Sodomy is a lot of fun so long as it is consensual. Just one of the many places that Antonin Scalia and I differ. On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 4:45 PM, Michael Grant [Modus IS] wrote: >> Gruss used the idea of sodomy as an insult. > > So we have to add sodomy to the list of political correctness? Gay

Re: Wow! Holy Snub

2009-01-20 Thread Sam
Yeah, Bush definitely had his faults. I imagine he thought keeping him up to speed would give him better judgment. The housing crises was predictable for a long time yet AG kept lowering rates. On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 4:47 PM, Gruss Gott wrote: >> Sam wrote: >> Why do you want to know? >> > > J

undelete software

2009-01-20 Thread Scott Raley -ITC
Anyone recommend software for this problem. Someone was on a public share drive and deleted a folder that had a peachtree database in it that I need to recover. The share is on SBS 2003 Premium. Of course its not in anyone's recycle bin since it was done through the network. Any software you know o

Re: Wow! Holy Snub

2009-01-20 Thread Gruss Gott
> Sam wrote: > Why do you want to know? > Just curious what you think. I mean Bush obviously liked him. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doublecl

RE: Obama Inauguration Thread

2009-01-20 Thread Michael Grant [Modus IS]
> Gruss used the idea of sodomy as an insult. So we have to add sodomy to the list of political correctness? Gay and lesbian rights is one thing, but c'mon... ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic

Re: Wow! Holy Snub

2009-01-20 Thread Sam
Why do you want to know? On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 4:34 PM, Gruss Gott wrote: >> Sam wrote: >> Opps too soon... >> >> I remember being furious with Bush for never dumping him knowing he >> kept raising rates on his dad to help get Clinton elected. >> > > Why do you think Greenspan spent a record am

Re: Obama Inauguration Thread

2009-01-20 Thread Gruss Gott
> RoMunn wrote: > Gruss used the idea of sodomy as an insult. He's used everything else as an > insult, so he can add insulting lgbt people to his list now. > Towel off, bro, I'm just sassin' you. If it makes you feel better I'll let you have one quick slap. BUT THAT'S IT! ~

Re: Obama Inauguration Thread

2009-01-20 Thread Sam
Whatever, just don't pinch me to make me move, I'm kind of tired. On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 4:27 PM, Charlie Griefer wrote: > so... Sam's a catcher. > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release t

Re: Wow! Holy Snub

2009-01-20 Thread Gruss Gott
> Sam wrote: > Opps too soon... > > I remember being furious with Bush for never dumping him knowing he > kept raising rates on his dad to help get Clinton elected. > Why do you think Greenspan spent a record amount of meetings with W when he was first elected? ~~~

Re: Wow! Holy Snub

2009-01-20 Thread Robert Munn
Clinton is a sexual predator. His history of using his power to force himself on women. We can at least thank him for destroying the NOW as a political force by showing them to value political expediency over their own constituents. On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 4:21 PM, Sam wrote: > Don't forget he

Re: Wow! Holy Snub

2009-01-20 Thread Gruss Gott
> Sam wrote: > I remember being furious with Bush for never dumped him. > Why? ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;2944

Re: Wow! Holy Snub

2009-01-20 Thread Sam
Opps too soon... I remember being furious with Bush for never dumping him knowing he kept raising rates on his dad to help get Clinton elected. On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 4:28 PM, Sam wrote: > I remember being furious with Bush for never dumped him. > > On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 4:25 PM, Robert Munn

Re: Wow! Holy Snub

2009-01-20 Thread Judah McAuley
It's always so polite when they congratulate you so courteously. On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 4:19 PM, Charlie Griefer wrote: > i figured there was enough distance between us that i was safe. if i was > incorrect, then let me be the first to say, "well done, sir". > > On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 4:17 PM,

Re: Wow! Holy Snub

2009-01-20 Thread Sam
I remember being furious with Bush for never dumped him. On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 4:25 PM, Robert Munn wrote: > My bad, I forgot he held that job for so long. > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramati

Re: Obama Inauguration Thread

2009-01-20 Thread Charlie Griefer
so... Sam's a catcher. On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 4:25 PM, Sam wrote: > I didn't say I'd throw a leg over you either > > On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 4:04 PM, Judah McAuley > wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 4:02 PM, Sam wrote: > >> I didn't denigrade it. > > > > Excellent, thank you Sam. Glad to ha

Re: Obama Inauguration Thread

2009-01-20 Thread Sam
I didn't say I'd throw a leg over you either On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 4:04 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 4:02 PM, Sam wrote: >> I didn't denigrade it. > > Excellent, thank you Sam. Glad to have you on board on this one. > ~

Re: Wow! Holy Snub

2009-01-20 Thread Robert Munn
My bad, I forgot he held that job for so long. On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 4:19 PM, Sam wrote: > Wasn't Greenspan already there when Clinton arrived? > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release

Re: Wow! Holy Snub

2009-01-20 Thread Sam
Don't forget he lied to cover up a sexual harassment suit. Then there was witness tampering. On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 4:14 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > I blame him for having the affair in the first place. I have the same > distaste for John Edwards. I don't honestly care about the affair all > that

Re: Wow! Holy Snub

2009-01-20 Thread Gruss Gott
> ChuckG wrote: > ermm... well, he *did* leave a mark y'know... > Yeah, hey, is that mark in the Smithsonian? It should be ... ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free T

Re: Wow! Holy Snub

2009-01-20 Thread Sam
Wasn't Greenspan already there when Clinton arrived? On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 4:10 PM, Robert Munn wrote: > Clinton doesn't get any special blame for it, except for the Greenspan pick. > Congress gets a huge amount of blame for pushing risky loan practices in an > ideologically driven attempt to

Re: Wow! Holy Snub

2009-01-20 Thread Charlie Griefer
i figured there was enough distance between us that i was safe. if i was incorrect, then let me be the first to say, "well done, sir". On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 4:17 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > I thought you weren't standing up while I was drinking Charlie > > On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 4:16 PM, Char

Re: Wow! Holy Snub

2009-01-20 Thread Gruss Gott
> Judah wrote: > Well, off the top of my head, I believe that you and Robert have been > blaming Clinton for the subprime mortgage crisis. > HEY! I want credit too. I've been blaming Clinton for signing the CFMA which triggered the crisis. Now granted Bush had 7 years to fix Clinton's mistakes

Re: Wow! Holy Snub

2009-01-20 Thread Sam
Your so-called truths are too biased for me to accept. On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 4:03 PM, Maureen wrote: > I said I wasn't going to insult him anymore. Pointing out the truth is > not an attack or an insult. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion®

Re: Wow! Holy Snub

2009-01-20 Thread Sam
On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 4:02 PM, Maureen wrote: > Just in the last few months, on this list, there have been posts > blaming Clinton for everything from 9/11 to Freddie and Fannie Mac > deregulation to the economic collapse. Clinton likely could have avoided 9/11. That doesn't make it his fault.

Re: Wow! Holy Snub

2009-01-20 Thread Judah McAuley
I thought you weren't standing up while I was drinking Charlie On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 4:16 PM, Charlie Griefer wrote: > On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 4:14 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > >> >> Clinton had a golden opportunity to leave his mark on the world. > > > ermm... well, he *did* leave a mark y'know

Re: Wow! Holy Snub

2009-01-20 Thread Charlie Griefer
On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 4:14 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > Clinton had a golden opportunity to leave his mark on the world. ermm... well, he *did* leave a mark y'know... -- I have failed as much as I have succeeded. But I love my life. I love my wife. And I wish you my kind of success. ~

Re: Wow! Holy Snub

2009-01-20 Thread Judah McAuley
I blame him for having the affair in the first place. I have the same distaste for John Edwards. I don't honestly care about the affair all that much in and of itself. That's between him, his wife and the person(s) he has the affair with. But damn it, we aren't talking about a normal job here. You

Re: Wow! Holy Snub

2009-01-20 Thread Sam
Everything! Everything he did while president and the way he acts after. He supports terrorist before his own country. And all those houses he built on the garbage dump are falling down. On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 3:54 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > Out of curiosity, what do you not respect Carter for?

Re: Obama Inauguration Thread

2009-01-20 Thread Robert Munn
Gruss used the idea of sodomy as an insult. He's used everything else as an insult, so he can add insulting lgbt people to his list now. On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 4:02 PM, Sam wrote: > I didn't denigrade it. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion

Re: Obama Inauguration Thread

2009-01-20 Thread Judah McAuley
On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 4:02 PM, Sam wrote: > I didn't denigrade it. Excellent, thank you Sam. Glad to have you on board on this one. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the

Street Signs

2009-01-20 Thread Maureen
Bush Street in San Francisco after the inaugural http://imgs.sfgate.com/c/pictures/2009/01/20/ba-inaugural_bus_0499688582.jpg ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Tri

Re: Wow! Holy Snub

2009-01-20 Thread Sam
It started in March of 2001. Not blaming Clinton, just saying Bush didn't cause it. It's part of the cycle. On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 4:03 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > Then there was the first recession of Bush's administration. I recall > you blaming that on Clinton. > ~

Re: This makes no sense....

2009-01-20 Thread Gruss Gott
> RoMunn wrote: > You are off in la-la land if you think the government created derivatives. > I guess "la-la land" is your pet term for the US of A. The following was authored by Phil Gramm, McCain's econ adviser, and he promised it would create a "new era" for the financial services industry.

Re: Wow! Holy Snub

2009-01-20 Thread Robert Munn
I blame Greenspan more than anyone. After yakking about irrational exuberance in the stock market, he sat on the sidelines for the housing bubble. He could have suggested to Congress that pushing Fannie and Freddie deeper into the risky loan market was reckless. He did note that the housing bubble

Re: Wow! Holy Snub

2009-01-20 Thread Maureen
You would. Doesn't mean you're right. On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 4:07 PM, Sam wrote: > I'm saying most can be blamed on local government. > > On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 3:54 PM, Maureen wrote: >> Are you saying there were no government failures regarding Katrina?

Re: Wow! Holy Snub

2009-01-20 Thread Sam
Jimmy Carter started that program. It's pointed out when you blame Bush for a program that existed for many years. The major sub-prime problem was with the Dems in Congress. On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 4:01 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > Well, off the top of my head, I believe that you and Robert have be

Re: Wow! Holy Snub

2009-01-20 Thread Sam
I'm saying most can be blamed on local government. On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 3:54 PM, Maureen wrote: > Are you saying there were no government failures regarding Katrina? > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important

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2009-01-20 Thread Michael Grant [Modus IS]
> There are a lot of people who have never forgiven Clinton for lying to >their face about the Monica scandal - Carter, Sam Nunn, the Kennedys. Well I for one would've done the exact same thing when faced with admitting cheating in front of a nation. I wouldn't ever cheat on my wife, but if I did

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2009-01-20 Thread Maureen
I said I wasn't going to insult him anymore. Pointing out the truth is not an attack or an insult. On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 3:57 PM, Sam wrote: > So much for not attacking Bush anymore :) > > On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 3:46 PM, Maureen wrote: >> There is nothing dickish about speaking the truth. Bu

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2009-01-20 Thread Maureen
Just in the last few months, on this list, there have been posts blaming Clinton for everything from 9/11 to Freddie and Fannie Mac deregulation to the economic collapse. Go back eight years and you'll find him blamed for almost every problem Bush has faced. On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 3:56 PM, Scott

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2009-01-20 Thread Judah McAuley
Then there was the first recession of Bush's administration. I recall you blaming that on Clinton. On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 3:58 PM, Sam wrote: > Like? > > On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 3:53 PM, Maureen wrote: >> And that would different from every time Bush failed it was blamed on >> Clinton? ~~

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2009-01-20 Thread Sam
I didn't denigrade it. On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 3:50 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > Could we please stop denigrating forced anal sex? I happen to rather like it. > > Thanks > > On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 3:47 PM, Sam wrote: >> So you're saying bitch slap has a totally different meaning in >> Minnesota?

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2009-01-20 Thread Judah McAuley
Well, off the top of my head, I believe that you and Robert have been blaming Clinton for the subprime mortgage crisis. On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 3:58 PM, Sam wrote: > Like? > > On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 3:53 PM, Maureen wrote: >> And that would different from every time Bush failed it was blamed on

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2009-01-20 Thread Judah McAuley
I don't want to attack Bush. I want him prosecuted, not persecuted. On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 3:57 PM, Sam wrote: > So much for not attacking Bush anymore :) > > On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 3:46 PM, Maureen wrote: >> There is nothing dickish about speaking the truth. Bush's failures >> and references

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2009-01-20 Thread Sam
Like? On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 3:53 PM, Maureen wrote: > And that would different from every time Bush failed it was blamed on Clinton? ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get th

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2009-01-20 Thread Sam
So much for not attacking Bush anymore :) On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 3:46 PM, Maureen wrote: > There is nothing dickish about speaking the truth. Bush's failures > and references to them aren't going to vanish just because he left > Washington. In fact, all of sins are going to see the light of day

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2009-01-20 Thread Scott Stroz
What did Clinton get blamed for? On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 6:53 PM, Maureen wrote: > And that would different from every time Bush failed it was blamed on > Clinton? > > On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 3:50 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > That's right, everytime Obama fails at something , it will be blamed on

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2009-01-20 Thread Judah McAuley
Both. And play second base. Sometimes shortstop. On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 3:54 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > Do you pitch or catch? > > On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 6:50 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > >> Could we please stop denigrating forced anal sex? I happen to rather like >> it. >> >> > -- > Scott Stroz >

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2009-01-20 Thread Maureen
That's way TMI. E! On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 3:50 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > Could we please stop denigrating forced anal sex? I happen to rather like it. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic

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2009-01-20 Thread Charlie Griefer
mental note to remain seated if ever drinking with Judah. On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 3:50 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > Could we please stop denigrating forced anal sex? I happen to rather like > it. > > Thanks > > On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 3:47 PM, Sam wrote: > > So you're saying bitch slap has a tota

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2009-01-20 Thread Scott Stroz
Do you pitch or catch? On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 6:50 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > Could we please stop denigrating forced anal sex? I happen to rather like > it. > > -- Scott Stroz The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would

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