Re: Need some suggestions...

"We are staying at Pop Century, one of the 'value' resorts. We stayed there last time and were happy with it." We usually stay at Port Orleans. They have trundle beds so you get an extra bed at no extra cost. Helps out when you have 3 children. J - Experience hath shewn, that even under the b

Re: GINI index highest on record

How do we pay for the $10 trillion Obamacare? How about the trillion on the failed stimulus? Didn't they say the stimulus cost more than both wars? On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 7:25 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > They are raising taxes to pay for the Bush's war's and for fixing the > economic collapse

Re: GINI index highest on record

There is no real trust fund.It's all on paper. When more goers out than comes in, as is teh case this year, they need to sell bonds or raise taxes to pay. On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 7:15 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > Except for that little niggling detail that the Social security trust fund > is doin

Re: US apologises for reprehensible experiments.

http://www.radiolab.org/2010/jun/28/ Give this podcast a listen. It's several segments, but the one that relates is at the ~4 minute mark. It has to do with some studies performed at harvard. Very interesting stuff. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 1, 2010, at 3:47 PM, Jerry Johnson wrote: > >

RE: GINI index highest on record

They are raising taxes to pay for the Bush's war's and for fixing the economic collapse Bush created, not Social Security... -Original Message- From: Robert Munn [mailto:cfmuns...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 01, 2010 1:42 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: GINI index highest on record

RE: GINI index highest on record

Except for that little niggling detail that the Social security trust fund is doing just fine and social security is not drawing from general revenues. -Original Message- From: Robert Munn [mailto:cfmuns...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 01, 2010 3:51 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: G

Re: US apologises for reprehensible experiments.

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Smartest Cities in the US

A bit more data that suggests that Republicans are intellectually challenged. Looking at the chart on the left of the 10 smartest vs the 10 dumbest cities. All 10 of the smartest are mostly "blue" Democratic Party cities, while the 10 dumbest are most Republican, with a couple of notable exception

Re: A fine little religious troll

OMG, wicked pissah On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 4:02 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > Very simple and made me chuckle. SFW. > > http://tinyurl.com/2bp3gog > > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Col

Re: A fine little religious troll

In the immortal words of Larry: "I don't care who ya are, that's funny right thar!" On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 4:02 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > Very simple and made me chuckle. SFW. > > http://tinyurl.com/2bp3gog > > ~| Order th

A fine little religious troll

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RE: US apologises for reprehensible experiments.

Both were tragic and inhumane. I'd say Tuskagee was worse though based on the fact that they weren't treated at all and the study went on for decades. I believe an official apology was made for Tuskagee years ago, but I could be mistaken on that. -Original Message- From: Larry C. Lyons [m

Re: US apologises for reprehensible experiments.

It's not all that different. Except we were all still considering Tuskegee to be an aberration. Not a blueprint. I hope we don't find more examples. On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 4:41 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > And how is this different from the Tuskegee experiments where they > observed blacks w

Re: US apologises for reprehensible experiments.

And how is this different from the Tuskegee experiments where they observed blacks who were infected with STD's and left untreated for years? At least according to the BBC report, the Guatemalans were treated with Penicillin? On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 3:43 PM, Vivec wrote: > > http://www.npr.org/

Re: US apologises for reprehensible experiments.

That sucks. On a good note, at least they were testing with penicillin instead of mercury :) On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 3:43 PM, Vivec wrote: > > http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=130266301&sc=fb&cc=fp > > It's facts like these that are fodder for conspiracy theorists > everyw

Re: US apologises for reprehensible experiments.

Certainly is. But I will point out it was an American researcher from a private American university, researching at the library of a government-run state university, using documents released by the government under its "Freedom of Information" policies, who brought this to light. At least in thi

Re: GINI index highest on record

Wow, blatant propaganda coming from the Whitehouse? How about we have a vote on it? Let's see, bi-partisan support for not raising taxes and the dem's won't allow a vote. On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 4:13 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ma5np8PcaY8 > > Interesting vid

Re: GINI index highest on record

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ma5np8PcaY8 Interesting video released from the White House. Kinda cool they're using the "new media" to get their message across.. On Sep 30, 2010, at 1:37 AM, Robert Munn wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 8:05 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox > wrote: >> >> So, if you

US apologises for reprehensible experiments.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=130266301&sc=fb&cc=fp It's facts like these that are fodder for conspiracy theorists everywhere, and which have lead to the distrust of the US Government and their influence and actions in other countries. Some would argue that not much has ch

Re: The Federal Reserve in US will be gone within 25 years.

And to think Obama has spent more in less than two years than all presidents combined and you don't care. http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/10/vindicated_the_truth_about_con.html Vindicated: The Truth about Conservative Economic Policies On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 2:36 PM, Maureen wrote: > > >

Re: GINI index highest on record

On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 11:56 AM, Robert Munn wrote: > > On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 10:49 AM, Judah McAuley wrote: >> >> As for the rest of your argument, it's bullshit. Any of the solutions >> put forward (and I'm sure others out there that haven't been analyzed >> by the CBO and the trust fund boar

Re: GINI index highest on record

To be fair, it _is_ a solution. Just maybe not a very good one :D On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 2:56 PM, Robert Munn wrote: > > On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 10:49 AM, Judah McAuley wrote: >> >> As for the rest of your argument, it's bullshit. Any of the solutions >> put forward (and I'm sure others out ther

Re: GINI index highest on record

On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 10:49 AM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > As for the rest of your argument, it's bullshit. Any of the solutions > put forward (and I'm sure others out there that haven't been analyzed > by the CBO and the trust fund board) will adequately fund the program > for the next 75 years.

Re: The Federal Reserve in US will be gone within 25 years.

On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 5:27 AM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > "There is at least one economic theory claiming that deficit spending is > necessary  - that is better to 'saddle the next generation with debt' than > to allow the economy or political structure to collapse." > > One?  How about dozens. Th

Re: Jimmy Fallon and Justin Timberlake

Brilliant! Have always thought that JT was very talented. His past 2 albums were great works of art and he will have a long career. Fallon is the new Conan. -J.J. On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 12:54 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote: > > that was great! > > > On Oct 1, 2010, at 9:36 AM, G Money wrote

Re: Jimmy Fallon and Justin Timberlake

that was great! On Oct 1, 2010, at 9:36 AM, G Money wrote: > > I'm just floored by this. This will put a smile on your face. Just a lot of > fun. > > I knew Timberlake was a talented and cool cat, but Fallon impresses > me.his Beastie Boys impersonation was spot on: > > http://www.lateni

RE: GINI index highest on record

Bah, lets just do away with money. No money, no taxes, no problems. Social security's problems go away with it, the tea party doesn't have anything to complain about (since there's no taxes there's also no government), the left wing gets to give everything to the poor and still keep everything (no

Re: GINI index highest on record

On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Robert Munn wrote: > > On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 10:26 AM, Judah McAuley wrote: >> There are several changes that can be made to extend the solvency date >> out to the limits of the CBO forecasting, for instance, raising the >> cap on income subject to SSI. Currentl

Re: GINI index highest on record

On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 10:26 AM, Judah McAuley wrote: > There are several changes that can be made to extend the solvency date > out to the limits of the CBO forecasting, for instance, raising the > cap on income subject to SSI. Currently the cap is at $106,000 in > income. If you raise that to $

Re: Jimmy Fallon and Justin Timberlake

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Re: GINI index highest on record

On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 1:25 AM, Robert Munn wrote: > > I'm not ignoring it. I am confronted by the fact that, under the > current forecast, I will be one of the first people to begin losing > what I paid in, and my daughter can look forward to getting only a > fraction of what she paid in, if any

Re: Jimmy Fallon and Justin Timberlake

I do not particularly care for the type of music Timberlake sings, but I think he is a great singer. He can sing, dance, act, do comedy (I have watched Fallon's show before and its worse than SNL), and to me, most importantly he does nto take himself too seriously. Some of the banter with Fallon

Re: Jimmy Fallon and Justin Timberlake

On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 11:21 AM, G Money wrote: > JT is well spoken, intelligent, funny, genuinely talented. Can sing, dance, > act...and he's a hugely knowledgeable sports fan. Yeah I saw him on punked. I don't like his singing, he tries to sing like a girl. It's weird. > Most importantly, he

Re: Jimmy Fallon and Justin Timberlake

On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 11:04 AM, G Money wrote: > I wanted so much to hate him, but you just can't...he's awesome. JT has managed to escape the boy band stereotype and has proven that he is a real entertainer in so many ways. The only other "boy band" type to have escaped the stereotype is Mark

Re: Jimmy Fallon and Justin Timberlake

And most importantly, he doesn't take himself too seriously. Getting up and doing that was pretty cool. Especially since he was really supposed to be there pimping his new movie. On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 11:21 AM, G Money wrote: > > On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 10:14 AM, Sam wrote: > > > > > I saw

Re: Jimmy Fallon and Justin Timberlake

On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 10:14 AM, Sam wrote: > > I saw Fallon get up on stage and do a song in a bar ten years ago. I > was shocked at how well he sang. > > Timberlake, does nothing for me. He's a singer that's singing. Fallan > is a comedian that sings better then JT. That's impressive. > JT is

Re: Jimmy Fallon and Justin Timberlake

I saw Fallon get up on stage and do a song in a bar ten years ago. I was shocked at how well he sang. Timberlake, does nothing for me. He's a singer that's singing. Fallan is a comedian that sings better then JT. That's impressive. On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 10:36 AM, G Money wrote: > > I'm just

Re: Jimmy Fallon and Justin Timberlake

On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 9:55 AM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > In recent years, the only time SNL has been funny, in my opinion, has > bene when Timberlake has been the host. He is pretty talented. > I wanted so much to hate him, but you just can't...he's awesome. -- Glittering prizes and endless com

Re: Jimmy Fallon and Justin Timberlake

Now that's good entertainment. On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 10:36 AM, G Money wrote: > > I'm just floored by this. This will put a smile on your face. Just a lot of > fun. > > I knew Timberlake was a talented and cool cat, but Fallon impresses > me.his Beastie Boys impersonation was spot on: > >

Re: Jimmy Fallon and Justin Timberlake

In recent years, the only time SNL has been funny, in my opinion, has bene when Timberlake has been the host. He is pretty talented. On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 10:36 AM, G Money wrote: > > I'm just floored by this. This will put a smile on your face. Just a lot of > fun. > > I knew Timberlake was a

Friday Funny

I know Stewart hasn't been funny for years but maybe he's snapped out of his funk. http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-september-29-2010/indecision-2010---democratic-campaign-woes enjoy. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Antholo

Jimmy Fallon and Justin Timberlake

I'm just floored by this. This will put a smile on your face. Just a lot of fun. I knew Timberlake was a talented and cool cat, but Fallon impresses me.his Beastie Boys impersonation was spot on: http://www.latenightwithjimmyfallon.com/blogs/2010/09/jimmy-justin-timberlake-the-roots-a-histor

Re: so much crying.

On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 8:59 AM, Sisk, Kris wrote: > > I dunno about that. That phase where they decide to test their limits > constantly is the most trying in my opinion. It usually happens between > the time they turn 2 and 4ish. Newborns require a lot of attention, but > a toddler who's learne

Re: The Federal Reserve in US will be gone within 25 years.

That's how Clinton created a surplus, he raided the SS fund prompting Al Gore to coin the phrase lockbox. On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 8:27 AM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > Raiding SS was a government standard long before Bush took office. If it > wasn't "Bush's wars", it would have been something else.

Re: GINI index highest on record

Because it's a stupid question. We've been saying all along stop spending money we don't have and she keeps saying what programs should we cut to pay for the things we just bought. Repeal the health care plan and that will save trillions. Start there. On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 9:32 AM, Vivec wro

RE: so much crying.

I dunno about that. That phase where they decide to test their limits constantly is the most trying in my opinion. It usually happens between the time they turn 2 and 4ish. Newborns require a lot of attention, but a toddler who's learned 'No' is truly a horrific thing. -Original Message-

Re: GINI index highest on record

On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 3:37 AM, Maureen wrote: > > I'm still not seeing it.. It increased from 1989 to 1998, but has been > falling since. The wealth was redistributed to the poor during the '90's and has slowed since. > Everyone got wealthier in the years between 1989 and > 2001 - one of the m

Re: McDonald's May Drop Health Plan

FWIW, here is the actual quote, in context: (note. I am not a Limbaugh fan. But let's at least hang him on what he has actually said, no need to deliberately misinterpret.) >From his radio show: Caller: "If the health care bill passes, where would you go for health care yourself? " Rush: ".

Re: Need some suggestions...

We are staying at Pop Century, one of the 'value' resorts. We stayed there last time and were happy with it. IN firure trips we want to try the Wilderness Lodge and Animal Kingdom Lodge On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 9:20 AM, Jerry Johnson wrote: > > Right at that big fountain in the middle, at dusk, t

RE: McDonald's May Drop Health Plan

Um.. Sam: He said when ObamaCare kicks in he'll fly to Costa Rica for his health care. Eric: Umm...no...he said if it passed... " Rush Limbaugh said he'd go to Costa Rica for medical treatment if the healthcare reform touted by President Barack Obama is passed." For medical treatment, for h

Re: GINI index highest on record

You haven't answered the question though. "how would you "change those programs" without destroying the economic well-being of the elderly." Are you advocating a complete end to all social welfare programs including health and education? On 1 October 2010 04:25, Robert Munn wrote: > I'm not i

Re: Need some suggestions...

Right at that big fountain in the middle, at dusk, they also had a parade, marching bands, tiny fireworks, and skydivers and ultralight pilots winging around and landing, in costume. That was fun and unexpected. If money is no object, with kids, I would recommend as vigorously as possible stayin

Re: Need some suggestions...

Alexis loved EPCOT. But we found that with a 4 year old there was just too much to do in one day. Mind you we got off to a slow start that day. I think that she really enjoyed the water fountains in between the corporate and the country displays. On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 6:21 AM, Jerry Barnes wrot

Re: so much crying.

On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 4:16 PM, morchella wrote: > > thanks guys. > great advice. > Also...it gets better. The first year with my son waswell, it was awful. Since he's turned one, and since he got tubes in his ears (no more ear infections!) it's been fun to be a dad, finally. It will get

Harvard Pilgrim cancels Medicare Advantage plan

Harvard Pilgrim cancels Medicare Advantage plan Excerpt: Harvard Pilgrim Health Care has notified customers that it will drop its Medicare Advantage health insurance program at the end

Re: The Federal Reserve in US will be gone within 25 years.

"There is at least one economic theory claiming that deficit spending is necessary - that is better to 'saddle the next generation with debt' than to allow the economy or political structure to collapse." One? How about dozens. "I do however feel that the government taking money from that fun

Re: and in Bizzaro world...

"Yeah, because Progressives are the only ones who ever do that." No, but they have made it an art form. Why are progressives called liberal when there is nothing liberal about the progressive movement? "Definition of a political party: A group of people whose main activities are collecting m

Re: McDonald's May Drop Health Plan

Follow Up: Federal Agency Flexible On McDonald's Plan Excerpt: The Obama administration said Thursday that its top health official will "exercise her discretion" in enforcing a new health-law

Re: Need some suggestions...

"EPCOT was wonderful. Each of the 6 times I've gone." I have read that it is a good idea to do epcot the first day. If you do the other parks and then do epcot, the kids will be disappointed since it is not as "exciting" as the other parks. That said, my kids love epcot. There are some decent

Re: GINI index highest on record

On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 1:02 AM, Maureen wrote: > You are still ignoring the fact that those elderly paid the taxes that > fund Social Security with a promise of getting it back.  But since you > are on such a hobby-horse about it, just how would you "change those > programs" without destroying t

Re: The Federal Reserve in US will be gone within 25 years.

On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 12:48 AM, Maureen wrote: > Your anger is misdirected, and your passion misguided.  But your heart > is in the right place.  I too do not wish to pass debt to the next > generations, but I also don't want to cut off the only source of food, > housing and medical care for th

Re: GINI index highest on record

On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 12:50 AM, Robert Munn wrote: > > On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 12:37 AM, Maureen wrote: >> >> The entire rhetoric that the government is taxing the rich and giving >> it to the poor is simply not borne out by these statistics or any >> other. > > The government is taxing everyone

Re: GINI index highest on record

On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 12:37 AM, Maureen wrote: > > The entire rhetoric that the government is taxing the rich and giving > it to the poor is simply not borne out by these statistics or any > other. The government is taxing everyone (but especially the rich, who pay most of the taxes) and giving

Re: The Federal Reserve in US will be gone within 25 years.

You neatly side-stepped my questions and threw another red herring out, but I am being generous tonight so I will answer you anyhow. No, I do not feel that me collecting social security, from a fund that I paid into for the last 44 years in an amount that far exceeds anything that I will ever col

Re: GINI index highest on record

I'm still not seeing it.. It increased from 1989 to 1998, but has been falling since. Everyone got wealthier in the years between 1989 and 2001 - one of the most prosperous decades in the history of this country. But we sure haven't seen any redistribution of wealth to the middle and lower class

Re: The Federal Reserve in US will be gone within 25 years.

On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 12:20 AM, Maureen wrote: > > Social Security also produces 25% of the revenue.  Are you taking that > into account?  The Department of Defense, on the other hand, is > revenue negative but eats as much of the budget as Social Security > even without the inclusion of all of

Re: The Federal Reserve in US will be gone within 25 years.

Social Security also produces 25% of the revenue. Are you taking that into account? The Department of Defense, on the other hand, is revenue negative but eats as much of the budget as Social Security even without the inclusion of all of the emergency spending bills. You sure have a fixation on

Re: GINI index highest on record

1989, not 1983, I mistyped the date. On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 11:25 AM, Maureen wrote: > > Under what math system is 7% greater than 8.7%? > You're going to have to explain how you arrived at this conclusion > based on those stats. > > On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 2:14 AM, Robert Munn wrote: >> >>

Re: GINI index highest on record

On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 5:17 AM, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote: > > we probably need to revist these numbers now that many have lost their homes > since 2007. > The rich lost trillions of dollars of wealth during the downturn. ~| Or