Re: Fair Tax (was: California tells online retailers ...)

2011-07-05 Thread Gruss Gott
Eric Roberts wrote: > > I know quite a few.  I have a friend who is looking at getting a job in the > Chicago area and is basing a large part of his decision on where he is going > to move to based on what the general merchandise taxes are.  They can > fluctuate by almost 5% based on county and c

Re: Fair Tax (was: California tells online retailers ...)

2011-07-05 Thread Dana
you'd need to be stocking up in a big way to make that worthwhile. There is a similar situation in Portland Oregon, though. If you are a resident of Washington -- just over the river -- you can claim exemption from the rather high Oregon sales tax at the register. I think that's the way it works -

Re: Dawrin Award Winner

2011-07-05 Thread Maureen
Moot. If the law is correct, even once is too many times. On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 9:40 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > The argument there...how many times has that happened as opposed to the > number of people with mushed skulls because they didn't have helmets. > > -Original Message- > From:

RE: Dawrin Award Winner

2011-07-05 Thread Eric Roberts
The argument there...how many times has that happened as opposed to the number of people with mushed skulls because they didn't have helmets. -Original Message- From: Maureen [mailto:mamamaur...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 11:15 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Dawrin Award

Re: Dawrin Award Winner

2011-07-05 Thread Dana
I understand the issue. But then why require seat belt use? I am not really comfortable arguing either side of this debate. One of the things I don't like about Canada is the mentality that personal health choices can be politically incorrect because they affect the collective public health. Shive

RE: Fair Tax (was: California tells online retailers ...)

2011-07-05 Thread Eric Roberts
I know a lot of people who drive to stores in IN because they do not charge taxes on food...even if they are driving an extra 20 miles or so to do this. -Original Message- From: PT [mailto:cft...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 9:23 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Fair Tax (was:

RE: Fair Tax (was: California tells online retailers ...)

2011-07-05 Thread Eric Roberts
I know quite a few. I have a friend who is looking at getting a job in the Chicago area and is basing a large part of his decision on where he is going to move to based on what the general merchandise taxes are. They can fluctuate by almost 5% based on county and city. Eric -Original Messa

Re: Dawrin Award Winner

2011-07-05 Thread Maureen
The most expensive insurance claim related to a motorcycle accident involves a woman who fell from the back of the cycle and was dragged down the road because her jeans got caught on the kickstand. She spent months in the hospital having multiple operations to reconstruct her pelvic region, and r

Re: Dawrin Award Winner

2011-07-05 Thread Dana
I want to agree. On the other hand, when a motorcyclist comes in to the ER with massive head injuries, it's not going to get shrugged off as a consequence of a bad choice, too bad. So there's a social interest. On the *third* hand, if you extrapolate from that logic, the government should regulate

Re: Dawrin Award Winner

2011-07-05 Thread Gruss Gott
Jerry Barnes wrote: > Actor Gary Busey, who was not wearing a helmet when he was nearly killed in > a motorcycle crash three years ago, on Friday urged all state legislatures > to pass mandatory helmet laws. > I'm not a biker and if I was I'd definitely wear a helmet, but a big part of me doesn'

Re: Fair Tax (was: California tells online retailers ...)

2011-07-05 Thread Gruss Gott
Maureen wrote: > > I wonder how aghast people would be.  Most people don't conside how > much the sales tax would be before making a purchase.  Do people drive > to a different city to make purchases because the sales tax is lower? > Even on major purchases like cars where even a 1% difference is

Re: Fair Tax (was: California tells online retailers ...)

2011-07-05 Thread Gruss Gott
Justin Scott wrote: > > You're ignoring the increase in take-home pay that comes from not > having an income tax.  Sure, people would be aghast at higher prices > for a while, but they'd also have more money to spend, so things would > balance out. > Hm. I'm sure I'm saying things without clari

Re: Fair Tax (was: California tells online retailers ...)

2011-07-05 Thread Maureen
Georgia. I paid the sales tax to the Dealership. They sent it to whichever state was entitled to receive it. On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 7:40 PM, PT wrote: > > Sales tax in NC, or GA? > > On 7/5/2011 10:35 PM, Maureen wrote: >  I bought several cars from the family dealership in >> North Carolina w

Re: Fair Tax (was: California tells online retailers ...)

2011-07-05 Thread PT
Sales tax in NC, or GA? On 7/5/2011 10:35 PM, Maureen wrote: I bought several cars from the family dealership in > North Carolina when I lived in Georgia, and occasionally got a letter > from the state of Georgia asking about the sales tax. I would just > send a copy of the contract showing th

Re: Fair Tax (was: California tells online retailers ...)

2011-07-05 Thread Maureen
I know they will bust you for not paying the sales tax across a state line if you neglect to pay the tax at all, but I've never known of anyone having a problem from going to an adjoining county or city to pay less tax. I bought several cars from the family dealership in North Carolina when I liv

Re: Fair Tax (was: California tells online retailers ...)

2011-07-05 Thread PT
> One would think the big drug dealers would welcome this to some degree. > No more getting busted for tax evasion. =D And ... this just made me wonder ... what would happen if someone actually recorded 0 income from cocaine sales on their taxes? Probably nothing but the DEA watching your acti

Re: Fair Tax (was: California tells online retailers ...)

2011-07-05 Thread PT
On 7/5/2011 10:21 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > A long time ago, when I took economics in college, there was an > magazine article the professor passed out that estimated the amount of > money in the 'underground economy' - all income made from illegal > activities or unreported income from illegal sal

Re: Fair Tax (was: California tells online retailers ...)

2011-07-05 Thread PT
On 7/5/2011 9:57 PM, Maureen wrote: > > I wonder how aghast people would be. Most people don't conside how > much the sales tax would be before making a purchase. Do people drive > to a different city to make purchases because the sales tax is lower? > Even on major purchases like cars where eve

Re: Fair Tax (was: California tells online retailers ...)

2011-07-05 Thread Scott Stroz
On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 9:57 PM, Maureen wrote: > >  However, people like Paris > Hilton who spend their lives shopping  or those who earn all their > income from illegal enterprises and currently pay no income tax might > not like it much. A long time ago, when I took economics in college, ther

Re: Fair Tax (was: California tells online retailers ...)

2011-07-05 Thread Maureen
I wonder how aghast people would be. Most people don't conside how much the sales tax would be before making a purchase. Do people drive to a different city to make purchases because the sales tax is lower? Even on major purchases like cars where even a 1% difference is a substantial sum of mone

Re: Fair Tax (was: California tells online retailers ...)

2011-07-05 Thread Justin Scott
> The whole gee-the-states-already-have-sales-tax argument is like > saying that since you licked a 9 volt battery and didn't die it must > be ok to lick the wires sticking out of the live outlet.  A little > doesn't mean a lot is ok. Your argument is more like, "well, sure that battery works fin

Re: Fair Tax (was: California tells online retailers ...)

2011-07-05 Thread Maureen
It is abundantly clear that not only do you not know anything about the proposed Fair Tax, you don't want to know. Further you refuse to even acknowledge your previous statements on the issue. I don't know what happened to you in your absence, or if you are even the same person who used to post

Re: Fair Tax (was: California tells online retailers ...)

2011-07-05 Thread Gruss Gott
Jerry Barnes wrote: > > My God, it's hard to be so wrong about stuff so consistently, but you > manage.  Kudos on consistency. > > From the Fair Tax Blog: > > The Missouri House gave final approval to a proposed constitutional Hey Jerry? Last I checked Missouri wasn't the federal government. Th

Re: Dawrin Award Winner

2011-07-05 Thread Jerry Barnes
Probably was a real downer for the rest of the rally. And as a blast from the past: Gary Busey Urges States to Pass Helmet Laws December 14, 1991 Actor Gary Busey, who was not wearing a helmet when he was nearly killed in a motorcycle crash three years ago, on Friday urged all state legislature

Re: FairTax and the wealthy...

2011-07-05 Thread Jerry Barnes
"Fairtax as a sales tax can be done using existing systems (since sales tax is charged in most states already). VAT fails the very first test you (falsely) accused fairtax of failing, namely lack of simplicity and requiring massive new government to manage it." >From what I have seen, you're was

Re: Fair Tax (was: California tells online retailers ...)

2011-07-05 Thread Jerry Barnes
"The amount of taxes the rich want to pay is, like now, is nothing." Let me fix this for you: The amount of taxes anyone wants to pay is, like now, is nothing. "And, btw, which states do you think would oppose this? I bet ... all the states with existing sales tax?? Yup, that's who'd oppos

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Re: Republicans against Financial Reform.

2011-07-05 Thread Jerry Milo Johnson
who can afford gas to get to a picket line? or eggs? On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 2:10 PM, Vivec wrote: > > ANd , once again: Evil Empire! > [cue Star Wars Darth Vader theme song] > > http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/05/financial-reform-wall-street-gop-warren_n_890090.html > > Republicans are fi

Republicans against Financial Reform.

2011-07-05 Thread Vivec
ANd , once again: Evil Empire! [cue Star Wars Darth Vader theme song] http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/05/financial-reform-wall-street-gop-warren_n_890090.html Republicans are fighting for Wall Street reforms to be reduced, if not removed entirely. I think if I were unemployed due to the fi

Re: Fair Tax (was: California tells online retailers ...)

2011-07-05 Thread Gruss Gott
Maureen wrote: > > How can you refer to yourself as open-minded and suggest you would > change your mind upon seeing a probable solution if, as you stated, > you refuse to look at anything regarding the fair tax?  That's quite a > leap of logic. > I didn't say I refuse to look at anything, I sai