Re: What the GOP Used to be.

but here's the thing. What's the alternative? Mr "I am going to win because I have the most money"? Gringrich? I remember when he had power before, and how he lost it. Santorum froths at the mouth when he talks about women's health care. Paul looks plausible until you really give him a good look.

Re: What the GOP Used to be.

I'd like to think you are right, but I don't think you are. I think he looked for the least bad way out, and that was winning. And even at that, it was more a matter of declaring victory, it seems. I think it is good to have an open mind, and try to keep one myself, but it still boils down to some

Re: What the GOP Used to be.

On Feb 20, 2012, at 10:48 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > You know what I'll never be able to forgive Obama for? A bunch of > things, but first and foremost is the fact that he flat out refused to > investigate and prosecute the crimes of his predecessor. "Healing > wounds", "looking to the future" an

Re: What the GOP Used to be.

I think that the Truth and Reconciliation process has shown that it is useful in other countries. Canada and South Africa come to mind, but perhaps others as well. But Obama is getting tagged with the consequences so I think he will pay the price for that regardless. I am upset about Guantanamo, m

Re: What the GOP Used to be.

You know what I'll never be able to forgive Obama for? A bunch of things, but first and foremost is the fact that he flat out refused to investigate and prosecute the crimes of his predecessor. "Healing wounds", "looking to the future" and shit like that. Fuck that. The bastards who aren't in pris

Re: The Inside Story on Climate Scientists Under Siege

Ah. Yeah, Obama had his chance and blew it. No more hope and change. I think he has hit his stride. On 2/20/2012 10:11 PM, Sam wrote: > > I knew people elected a guy with no experience and no plans, I'm > talking about the people that think hope and change is still coming > and he just needs m

Re: Santorum calls for end to Public Education and prenatal testing.

eh well I am no fan of public education but I suspect that Santorum and I would disagree as to who *is* the customer of public education. he probably think it's the parent. I think it's the child, and that in some cases the kid's best shot is public education, even if I chose otherwise. I certainl

Re: The Inside Story on Climate Scientists Under Siege

On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 8:47 PM, PT wrote: >  and hope and change. > > Pffft.  Aren't most of the current candidates still on about this, only > under a different name? "I am not Obama.  That guy sicks.  Believe in me > instead.  I can return us to greatness!" I knew people elected a guy with no

Re: Recommendations for Insurance?

I agree with Cameron. When I had to pick a plan, one of the most important factors was who covered treatment for kids with ADHD, because some of the options did not. Look at any ongoing prescriptions your family may have, and if there is a doctor you want to keep seeing, which insurance he takes.

Re: What the GOP Used to be.

I think Obama's problem is that for too long he was looking for middle ground, versus people who were determined not to cooperate with him in any area no matter what that refusal cost. He'd make unilateral concessions and then have no way to withdraw them when they weren't reciprocated. Oh and he

Re: Fox News? Really can this be called a News channel?

really? On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 6:52 PM, Sam wrote: > > Because he was making a weird joke that I didn't get. The graphic made > perfect sense. > > . > > On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 9:47 PM, Dana wrote: >> >> Sre, you were just testing use, right? Right. Then why ask Gruss >> to elaborate? Re-r

Re: Fox News? Really can this be called a News channel?

Because he was making a weird joke that I didn't get. The graphic made perfect sense. . On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 9:47 PM, Dana wrote: > > Sre, you were just testing use, right? Right. Then why ask Gruss > to elaborate? Re-read your own post, dude. Eyeroll. > > On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 5:39 PM

Re: Fox News? Really can this be called a News channel?

Sre, you were just testing use, right? Right. Then why ask Gruss to elaborate? Re-read your own post, dude. Eyeroll. On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 5:39 PM, Sam wrote: > > Actually I read it and picked out the pertinent parts so even you > could understand it. My bad. > > . > > On Mon, Feb 20, 2012

Re: What the GOP Used to be.

also when he was the president of the sceen acors guild he was feeding information to the FBI and the House Committee on Un-American Activities. Funny enough aside from the one party member, many of the others who were implicated by the Great Communicator were either political rivals or very staun

Re: What the GOP Used to be.

his lack of response to acid rain (and then blaming it on ducks) comes to mind. On Monday, February 20, 2012, Judah McAuley wrote: > > Suffice to say that today's Republicans look nothing like the > Republicans of the 1860s and today's Democrats look little like the > Democrats of the 1930s and

Re: What the GOP Used to be.

I think Regan was a train wreck and was senile during his second term and abdicated rule of the country to a cadre of unelected and unaccountable party operatives who damn near wrecked the country and caused untold misery that we will keep paying for for generations. As for him being a good guy,

Re: The Inside Story on Climate Scientists Under Siege

On Feb 20, 2012, at 5:47 PM, PT wrote: > Pffft. Aren't most of the current candidates still on about this, only > under a different name? "I am not Obama. That guy sicks. Believe in me > instead. I can return us to greatness!" I believe that our government is constrained no matter who is e

Re: The Inside Story on Climate Scientists Under Siege

On 2/20/2012 8:38 PM, Sam wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 8:34 PM, Sam wrote: >> I like d Mr Blankley and will miss his wit. >> >> I say that > > I wasn't finished... > > I say I read about extreme views on this list since it was here I > learned that people believe the world is 5,000 years ol

Re: Fox News? Really can this be called a News channel?

Actually I read it and picked out the pertinent parts so even you could understand it. My bad. . On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 5:59 PM, Dana wrote: > > see, he hasn't read it, or at least hasn't understood it if he did. > ~| Order t

Re: The Inside Story on Climate Scientists Under Siege

On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 8:34 PM, Sam wrote: > I like d Mr Blankley and will miss his wit. > > I say that I wasn't finished... I say I read about extreme views on this list since it was here I learned that people believe the world is 5,000 years old and that people don't believe evolution is tru

Re: What the GOP Used to be.

While I don't totally disagree with you, I also don't think any of those things were obviously wrong. It seems to me that Reagan was a decent moral guy, far from perfect, who tried to do the right thing. We couldn't ask much more out of a President. I don't like much that Obama has done (or

Re: The Inside Story on Climate Scientists Under Siege

I like d Mr Blankley and will miss his wit. I say that On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 8:17 PM, Gruss Gott wrote: > > I don't think anyone on this list is extreme politically; some are just more > locked and therefore closed mined than others. > > The late, and very very great Tony Blankley had a goo

Re: Santorum calls for end to Public Education and prenatal testing.

Yes, but all is forgiven now. . On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 8:26 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > That's what happened in the last election and is why Republicans took so > many seats. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http:

RE: What the GOP Used to be.

LOL...I think you need to go back to your history books brother and re-read the chapters on the 60's and 70's...and then the 80's -Original Message- From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 6:11 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: What the GOP Used to be.

RE: Santorum calls for end to Public Education and prenatal testing.

That's what happened in the last election and is why Republicans took so many seats. -Original Message- From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 10:45 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Santorum calls for end to Public Education and prenatal testing. While I

RE: Santorum calls for end to Public Education and prenatal testing.

I would have to disagree...I thing that Achmenijad (or however you spell it) sounds a lot saner than Santorum... -Original Message- From: Vivec [mailto:gel21...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 10:04 AM To: cf-community Subject: Santorum calls for end to Public Education and pr

Re: Recommendations for Insurance?

You might also try http://www.castlighthealth.com/solutions/consumers/ Not sure if that's what you need but it might be helpful On Feb 20, 2012, at 2:54 PM, Judith Dinowitz wrote: > > Thanks, Cameron! I appreciate the recommendation. > > On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 12:19 PM, Cameron Childress

Re: The Inside Story on Climate Scientists Under Siege

I don't think anyone on this list is extreme politically; some are just more locked and therefore closed mined than others. The late, and very very great Tony Blankley had a good way to describe it. He said that those in the center were simply less willing to believe their philosophy would al

Re: Santorum calls for end to Public Education and prenatal testing.

I just about agree. Huh. On Feb 20, 2012, at 8:24 AM, Sam wrote: > > What is you're issue? I think he's correct about prenatal exams and > abortions. I don't agree with his position but I don't think having it > makes him crazy. If people vote for him to be president it will not be > to cha

Re: What the GOP Used to be.

Suffice to say that today's Republicans look nothing like the Republicans of the 1860s and today's Democrats look little like the Democrats of the 1930s and 1940s. Times have changed indeed. As for Regan, let's start with a quick, off the top of my head summary: Trickle-down economics Iran-Contr

Re: What the GOP Used to be.

So what went wrong? lol :-) On 20 February 2012 20:11, LRS Scout wrote: > > BTW, lets notforget, it was republicans that freed the slaves, and > republicans that pushed through civil rights. > > Democrats didn't become "progressive" until much later. > > ~

Re: What the GOP Used to be.

He harmed this country? I'd love to hear that rant. BTW, lets notforget, it was republicans that freed the slaves, and republicans that pushed through civil rights. Democrats didn't become "progressive" until much later. On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 6:31 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > And let us re

Re: What the GOP Used to be.

And let us remember that Ronald Regan was a fucking jerk who did more to harm this country than anyone in a long long time. And, yes, he still seems like a totally reasonable nominee for sainthood compared to the current crop. Judah On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 3:02 PM, Vivec wrote: > > "We establis

Re: poor Romney

I guess it depends on whether you think the underlying dynamic is desperation or cynicism. I was leaning to the former when I sent this, but on second thought it's hard to feel sorry for Mr. "I am going to win because I have more money". If it were Gingrich it would be cynicism, but he doesn't se

What the GOP Used to be.

"We establish no religion in this country. We command no worship. We mandate no belief, nor will we ever. Church and State are and must remain separate" - Ronald Reagan. https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=327753397261775&set=a.142349529135497.12943.138308669539583&type=1&ref=nf >From this

Re: Fox News? Really can this be called a News channel?

btw, good one ;) On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 2:59 PM, Dana wrote: > see, he hasn't read it, or at least hasn't understood it if he did. > > On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 12:20 PM, Gruss Gott wrote: >> >> Don't be coy. >> >> >> >> On Feb 20, 2012, at 8:14 AM, Sam wrote: >> >>> >>> Please elaborate >>> >>

Re: Fox News? Really can this be called a News channel?

see, he hasn't read it, or at least hasn't understood it if he did. On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 12:20 PM, Gruss Gott wrote: > > Don't be coy. > > > > On Feb 20, 2012, at 8:14 AM, Sam wrote: > >> >> Please elaborate >> >> . >> >> On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 3:05 AM, Gruss Gott wrote: >>> >>> Fig. 4c is

Re: Recommendations for Insurance?

Thanks, Cameron! I appreciate the recommendation. On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 12:19 PM, Cameron Childress wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 12:11 PM, Judith Dinowitz < > jdino...@houseoffusion.com> wrote: > > > So... the time is nigh. The state has spoken; it doesn't like us. Michael > > and I are

Re: Fox News? Really can this be called a News channel?

Don't be coy. On Feb 20, 2012, at 8:14 AM, Sam wrote: > > Please elaborate > > . > > On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 3:05 AM, Gruss Gott wrote: >> >> Fig. 4c is SUCH a pile crap and you know it. >> > > ~| Order the Adobe Col

Re: The Inside Story on Climate Scientists Under Siege

So what happened to the country that believed the sky was falling: http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/project_syndicate/2012/02/why_germany_is_phasing_out_its_solar_power_subsidies_.html That could have been us. . On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 11:06 AM, Vivec wrote: > > Science leads

Re: The Inside Story on Climate Scientists Under Siege

On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 12:23 PM, Sam wrote: > I read this list to point me to the extreme views of the left and the > right, usually from the same people. I guess it's important to be able > to recognize them rather than repeat them as fact. You should try it > sometime. > Weak. -Cameron ...

Re: The Inside Story on Climate Scientists Under Siege

I read this list to point me to the extreme views of the left and the right, usually from the same people. I guess it's important to be able to recognize them rather than repeat them as fact. You should try it sometime. . On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 12:15 PM, Cameron Childress wrote: > > I read lo

Re: Recommendations for Insurance?

On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 12:11 PM, Judith Dinowitz < jdino...@houseoffusion.com> wrote: > So... the time is nigh. The state has spoken; it doesn't like us. Michael > and I are slightly over the limit for Medicaid/Family Health Plus and have > to get insurance (thankfully the kids can still be cove

Re: The Inside Story on Climate Scientists Under Siege

On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 11:08 AM, Sam wrote: > Wow, I'm kind of shocked to see that you read Mother-Jones.Isn't that > the most rabid of all left wing publications? > I read lots of things. I find it helps me avoid an ideologically narrow and rigid world view. You should try it sometime. -Came

Recommendations for Insurance?

So... the time is nigh. The state has spoken; it doesn't like us. Michael and I are slightly over the limit for Medicaid/Family Health Plus and have to get insurance (thankfully the kids can still be covered under Child Health Plus). I was wondering what insurance carriers you all use. Do you get

Re: Santorum calls for end to Public Education and prenatal testing.

What mainstream candidates? I think Reagan was the last one. Nope, he was, still is hated. . On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 11:41 AM, Ray Champagne wrote: > > It's simple - the system is broken.  It gives the looney extremes a chance > to put the fellow loony candidates on a national stage, and by the

Re: Santorum calls for end to Public Education and prenatal testing.

While I agree with you about the Republicans I will add that the Democrats are ten times worse and no matter how bad things get they are still loved. . On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 11:37 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > Its simple low turnout, even for republicans, and those who do turn > out are quite

Re: Santorum calls for end to Public Education and prenatal testing.

It definitely has problems and is ready for a complete overhaul. I don't think Santorum said to shut them down, he said the government shouldn't be running them but they should help. . On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 11:28 AM, Vivec wrote: > > You agree with Public Education being bad? > Something that

Re: Santorum calls for end to Public Education and prenatal testing.

It's simple - the system is broken. It gives the looney extremes a chance to put the fellow loony candidates on a national stage, and by the time the rest of us get a chance to cast a vote, a lot of the more mainstream candidates have already had to drop out. On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 10:04 AM, Vi

Re: Santorum calls for end to Public Education and prenatal testing.

Its simple low turnout, even for republicans, and those who do turn out are quite committed. Frankly I hope that Santorum and his frothy mix do become the Republican nominee. I think that it would show the true face of the current republican party. And lead to a defeat of epic proportions. Enough

Re: Santorum calls for end to Public Education and prenatal testing.

You agree with Public Education being bad? Something that should be shut down? On 20 February 2012 12:24, Sam wrote: > > What is you're issue? I think he's correct about prenatal exams and > abortions. I don't agree with his position but I don't think having it > makes him crazy. If people vote

Re: Santorum calls for end to Public Education and prenatal testing.

What is you're issue? I think he's correct about prenatal exams and abortions. I don't agree with his position but I don't think having it makes him crazy. If people vote for him to be president it will not be to change pre-natal care, it will be to do anything different from what Obama is doing.

Re: Fox News? Really can this be called a News channel?

Please elaborate . On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 3:05 AM, Gruss Gott wrote: > > Fig. 4c is SUCH a pile crap and you know it. > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/14302721

Re: Fox News? Really can this be called a News channel?

How would you know what I claim, you seem to forget what we're discussing with every post. Are you really this clueless or are you playing? . On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 12:06 AM, Dana wrote: > > Sam. > > Weren't you just declaiming how offensive it was to say that political > beliefs are associate

Re: The Inside Story on Climate Scientists Under Siege

Wow, I'm kind of shocked to see that you read Mother-Jones.Isn't that the most rabid of all left wing publications? It looks more like Mann's peers discredited him and Heatland is just making sure people know it. 3373.txt: Ray Bradley: " Furthermore, the model output is very much determined by t

Re: The Inside Story on Climate Scientists Under Siege

Science leads to the truth, and the truth is the enemy of those who's wealth is based on lies. On 20 February 2012 11:26, Cameron Childress wrote: > > But now comes the unauthorized release of documents showing how a > libertarian think tank, the Heartland Institute, which has in the past been

Re: Santorum calls for end to Public Education and prenatal testing.

If you ever figure it out, please let me know. He gets crazy eyes when he talks about social issues. On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 11:04 AM, Vivec wrote: > > It really alarms me that this guy has won so many votes representing the > GOP. > > > http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/19/santorum-phony

Santorum calls for end to Public Education and prenatal testing.

It really alarms me that this guy has won so many votes representing the GOP. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/19/santorum-phony-theology_n_1287475.html

The Inside Story on Climate Scientists Under Siege

From: http://motherjones.com/environment/2012/02/climate-scientist-michael-mann-video "It is almost possible to dismiss Michael Mann's account of a vast conspiracy by the fossil fuel industry to harrass scientists and befuddle the public. His story of that campaign, and his own journey from naive

Re: FW: Report: Paul approved racist portions of newsletters

"Perhaps, but likely no more than that naive fools on the other side who were slobbering over Caribou Barbie." Sure there were. That really goes without saying. And there were others who actually liked her. "Who is Peggy Joseph, and why should I care what she says? I've never heard of her,

Re: Coup in Maldives

"Is that new stuff to you?" At this point I think you are intentionally missing the point. The US shouldn't bribe the Meldeves to sign something that is supposedly in its own interest. If the leaders of the Maldeves don't want to sign it, so be it. I'll go a step further. The US shouldn't be

Re: poor Romney

"I suppose. Like Gingrich maybe?" Or Faux Conservative, which would describe Gingrich and Romney. J - It is seldom that liberty of any kind is lost all at once. - David Hume ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! ht

Re: Fox News? Really can this be called a News channel?

Fig. 4c is SUCH a pile crap and you know it. On Feb 19, 2012, at 5:48 PM, Sam wrote: > > The article Vul et el did was on studies of functional MRI (fMRI) > scans which use voxels and apply some sort of gaussian smoothing to > determine which ones to use. Same exact method Firth et al used.