RE: Pics from the NATO Protest

2012-05-23 Thread Eric Roberts
The Bush administration certainly had no qualms about getting over 5000 of our soldiers killed in Iraq...so why not a bunch of Iraqi civilians? He obviously was very callous towards the lives of people. We had no legit reason to go into Iraq at all. Period. They didn't invade us. They didn't

itersting...apparently Obama has spent less than any president since Ike got us ut of Korea...

2012-05-23 Thread Eric Roberts
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Re: Pics from the NATO Protest

2012-05-23 Thread GMoney
On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 10:12 PM, Maureen wrote: > > Do you think those who provided the weapons and supplies for the war > didn't make any money? > > Where do you think the billions of dollars spend on that war went? > He killed thousands of Americans and untold thousands of Iraqi's..so th

Re: Pics from the NATO Protest

2012-05-23 Thread Maureen
Do you think those who provided the weapons and supplies for the war didn't make any money? Where do you think the billions of dollars spend on that war went? On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 12:00 PM, GMoney wrote: > > On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 1:57 PM, Maureen wrote: > >> >> Greed was the motive.  Reve

Re: Pics from the NATO Protest

2012-05-23 Thread Dana
well Michael Moore talked about it of course but I hadn't heard anything about it either. Got curious and googled -- found this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans-Afghanistan_Pipeline I have not tried to check any of its facts. Consider this a driveby contribution to the discussion, gotta go.

Re: Pics from the NATO Protest

2012-05-23 Thread Dana
figure the odds On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 6:30 PM, Eric Roberts < ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: > > Tim...have you read Rachel Maddow's "Drift"? I would highly suggest it... > > -Original Message- > From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 2:27

RE: Pics from the NATO Protest

2012-05-23 Thread Eric Roberts
Tim...have you read Rachel Maddow's "Drift"? I would highly suggest it... -Original Message- From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 2:27 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Pics from the NATO Protest I have major complaints about KBR. They were conduct

RE: MSNBC: Don't expose Muslim atrocities; it will make Islam look bad

2012-05-23 Thread Eric Roberts
One problem with the premise of this...MSNBC is reporting on the atrocities committed by muslims... -Original Message- From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 2:02 PM To: cf-community Subject: MSNBC: Don't expose Muslim atrocities; it will make Islam loo

RE: Pics from the NATO Protest

2012-05-23 Thread Eric Roberts
Mineral resources plus they wanted to build a pipeline through Afghanistan...so yes...oil ;-) -Original Message- From: GMoney [mailto:gm0n3...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 2:01 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Pics from the NATO Protest On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 1:57 PM, Maur

RE: Occupy Atlanta says - Don't talk to the police....

2012-05-23 Thread Eric Roberts
BTW...this woman as a 80 something year old woman from Portland that traveled to Chicago to protest...she rocks! -Original Message- From: Maureen [mailto:mamamaur...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 1:31 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Occupy Atlanta says - Don't talk to the pol

RE: Occupy Atlanta says - Don't talk to the police....

2012-05-23 Thread Eric Roberts
A very good example. There was a pic being passed around that showed two cops carrying an old woman away and it was assumed that they were arresting her when in fact, they were carrying her to an ambulance to get some water and medical care (it was in the 90's this weekend in Chicago). Withut th

Re: The TV show "Community"

2012-05-23 Thread LRS Scout
I'm on 3-2 right now. On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 5:16 PM, William Bowen wrote: > > Get theyself on Hulu and catch the Season 3 eps. > > Good good stuff, too! > > On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 2:02 PM, LRS Scout wrote: > > > > Dr. Who > > > > Oh and the 2 part paintball eps were full of win. > > > > On S

Re: The TV show "Community"

2012-05-23 Thread William Bowen
Get theyself on Hulu and catch the Season 3 eps. Good good stuff, too! On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 2:02 PM, LRS Scout wrote: > > Dr. Who > > Oh and the 2 part paintball eps were full of win. > > On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 4:05 AM, LRS Scout wrote: > >> D&D ep, I'm in love. >> >> >> On Fri, May 18, 20

Re: The TV show "Community"

2012-05-23 Thread LRS Scout
Dr. Who Oh and the 2 part paintball eps were full of win. On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 4:05 AM, LRS Scout wrote: > D&D ep, I'm in love. > > > On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 11:06 PM, LRS Scout wrote: > >> Zombies, George Takei, firefly, Oh my. >> >> On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 1:02 PM, William Bowen >>

Re: MSNBC: Don't expose Muslim atrocities; it will make Islam look bad

2012-05-23 Thread Jerry Milo Johnson
np. it was a link worth looking at critically. I love actual, reasoned criticism of the press. its not like it is hard to find bad, bad, bad examples. keep posting them, I think it is a discussion worth having. who watches the watchers who watch the watchers? looks like that is our job. On Wed

Re: Occupy Atlanta says - Don't talk to the police....

2012-05-23 Thread Sam
I never do . On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 4:49 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > apply a basic turning test on it. if it passes they may be human. If > it fails, its probably Sam. > > j/k Sam don't get too offended. > ~| Order the Adob

Re: Occupy Atlanta says - Don't talk to the police....

2012-05-23 Thread Larry C. Lyons
apply a basic turning test on it. if it passes they may be human. If it fails, its probably Sam. j/k Sam don't get too offended. On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 4:41 PM, Pierre Demester wrote: > > Well - I haven't met them so they still could be robots for all I know. > > And you apparently are eliza..

Re: Penn Jillette's awesome weed rant.

2012-05-23 Thread Larry C. Lyons
maybe in teh last 5 minutes of his presidency. On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 4:36 PM, LRS Scout wrote: > > It doesn't even need votes.  Just to be reclassified on the schedule, and > Obama could do that himself with the signature of his pen. > > On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 4:31 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: >

RE: Occupy Atlanta says - Don't talk to the police....

2012-05-23 Thread Pierre Demester
Well - I haven't met them so they still could be robots for all I know. And you apparently are eliza... That's creates a problem b/c now I know not who I am. Formerly known as eliza. -Original Message- From: Cameron Childress [mailto:camer...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 4

Re: Occupy Atlanta says - Don't talk to the police....

2012-05-23 Thread Sam
That's the beauty of being a libertarian, you can pick any radical view and treat it as your own. . On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 4:35 PM, LRS Scout wrote: > > Not nearly. > > We have very different outlooks and the place, size and scope of > government.  All I have done is change my opinion on inter

RE: Occupy Atlanta says - Don't talk to the police....

2012-05-23 Thread Pierre Demester
Here here -Original Message- From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 4:35 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Occupy Atlanta says - Don't talk to the police Not nearly. We have very different outlooks and the place, size and scope of government. All

RE: Occupy Atlanta says - Don't talk to the police....

2012-05-23 Thread Pierre Demester
I'm seen both before. Good read though. -Original Message- From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:larrycly...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 4:29 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Occupy Atlanta says - Don't talk to the police Without getting too academic here, you may want to consi

Re: Penn Jillette's awesome weed rant.

2012-05-23 Thread LRS Scout
It doesn't even need votes. Just to be reclassified on the schedule, and Obama could do that himself with the signature of his pen. On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 4:31 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > It doesn't have the votes in either the house or the senate. Now if it > could be shown that it works be

Re: Occupy Atlanta says - Don't talk to the police....

2012-05-23 Thread LRS Scout
Not nearly. We have very different outlooks and the place, size and scope of government. All I have done is change my opinion on intervention and foreign affairs. If anything it shows that I can have an open mind, and change my opinion based on objective reality, not blindly parrot a party line

Re: Penn Jillette's awesome weed rant.

2012-05-23 Thread Larry C. Lyons
It doesn't have the votes in either the house or the senate. Now if it could be shown that it works better than viagra, I guarantee it would be through the Senate inside of a week. On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 4:25 PM, Cameron Childress wrote: > > On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 4:06 PM, LRS Scout wrote: >

Re: Occupy Atlanta says - Don't talk to the police....

2012-05-23 Thread Sam
Said the guy that now agrees with everything Larry, Dana and Eric say :P . On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 4:10 PM, LRS Scout wrote: > > Well Sam's here too. > > bwahahahahaha > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.

Re: Occupy Atlanta says - Don't talk to the police....

2012-05-23 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Without getting too academic here, you may want to consider this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reconstruction_of_automobile_destruction http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misinformation_effect the basic message is that memory is easily manipulated, especially by expectations and current beliefs. On We

Re: Occupy Atlanta says - Don't talk to the police....

2012-05-23 Thread Cameron Childress
I've met Larry, and Dana - they are real people. -Eliza On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 4:24 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > all your base are belong to us > > On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 4:14 PM, Pierre Demester > wrote: > > > > rigg. what a way to divert. Congrats. I'm not even sure > if I >

Re: Penn Jillette's awesome weed rant.

2012-05-23 Thread Cameron Childress
On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 4:06 PM, LRS Scout wrote: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=wWWOJGYZYpk#! Weed should definitely be legalized, and Penn makes some good points. But there is no way Obama's going to proclaim that (not this year anyway). -Cameron ... ~~

Re: Occupy Atlanta says - Don't talk to the police....

2012-05-23 Thread Larry C. Lyons
all your base are belong to us On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 4:14 PM, Pierre Demester wrote: > > rigg. what a way to divert. Congrats. I'm not even sure if I > am talking to a real person. Since I haven't "seen you". And I haven't > "known you" my entire life. I think you might be e

Re: Pics from the NATO Protest

2012-05-23 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Over the last few months I've been talking with people, and a lot of reading on the topic. One thing I found very interesting was this doctor's account of his service in Afghanistan: http://www.amazon.com/Line-Sand-Canadians-War-Kandahar/dp/1553655923/ref=pd_cp_b_1 At the same time all else I re

Re: Occupy Atlanta says - Don't talk to the police....

2012-05-23 Thread Cameron Childress
On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 4:15 PM, Pierre Demester wrote: > I keep getting these messages about the text being to long - so I cut them > off .sorry > > "You are misunderstanding the point entirely, to the point that I don't > think you read the preceding thread at all." > That's not a question, bu

RE: Occupy Atlanta says - Don't talk to the police....

2012-05-23 Thread Pierre Demester
I keep getting these messages about the text being to long - so I cut them off .sorry "You are misunderstanding the point entirely, to the point that I don't think you read the preceding thread at all." -Original Message- From: Cameron Childress [mailto:camer...@gmail.com] Sent: Wedn

RE: Occupy Atlanta says - Don't talk to the police....

2012-05-23 Thread Pierre Demester
rigg. what a way to divert. Congrats. I'm not even sure if I am talking to a real person. Since I haven't "seen you". And I haven't "known you" my entire life. I think you might be eliza. In fact... I might be eliza. Crap. Eliza might be me and I don't really exist. Great argument

Re: Occupy Atlanta says - Don't talk to the police....

2012-05-23 Thread Cameron Childress
On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 4:06 PM, Pierre Demester wrote: > Cameron, > > The answer is Yes. In a round-about way but it's still Yes. To what question? You answered a non-question post? -Cameron ... ~| Order the Adobe Col

Re: Pics from the NATO Protest

2012-05-23 Thread LRS Scout
In retrospect I agree. On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 4:10 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > that was my impression. I know what people are going to say but > frankly if we had not gone into Iraq, Afghanistan would never have > become such a crudhole of a nation. Perhaps the Victorian British Raj > had the

Re: Occupy Atlanta says - Don't talk to the police....

2012-05-23 Thread LRS Scout
Well Sam's here too. bwahahahahaha Is that a violation of the new "online bullying" laws? On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 4:06 PM, Pierre Demester wrote: > > Cameron, > > The answer is Yes. In a round-about way but it's still Yes. > > I could go on for an incredibly long time defending both ows an

Re: Pics from the NATO Protest

2012-05-23 Thread Larry C. Lyons
that was my impression. I know what people are going to say but frankly if we had not gone into Iraq, Afghanistan would never have become such a crudhole of a nation. Perhaps the Victorian British Raj had the correct idea, wall off the place from the rest of the world and let it stew in its own ju

Penn Jillette's awesome weed rant.

2012-05-23 Thread LRS Scout
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=wWWOJGYZYpk#! ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusi

RE: Occupy Atlanta says - Don't talk to the police....

2012-05-23 Thread Pierre Demester
Cameron, The answer is Yes. In a round-about way but it's still Yes. I could go on for an incredibly long time defending both ows and the tea party people. It's not going change anyones mind. It's very clear a lot of people have made up their mind without really knowing the facts. And that

Re: MSNBC: Don't expose Muslim atrocities; it will make Islam look bad

2012-05-23 Thread LRS Scout
I posted on Geller's site about this. Usually they have pretty well sourced stuff so I just assumed it was so. On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 3:39 PM, LRS Scout wrote: > Yeah, actually you're right. > > I posted quickly and without really checking it out. Also didn't notice > that it was World Net D

Re: MSNBC: Don't expose Muslim atrocities; it will make Islam look bad

2012-05-23 Thread LRS Scout
Yeah, actually you're right. I posted quickly and without really checking it out. Also didn't notice that it was World Net Daily, which is horrible. On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 3:19 PM, Jerry Milo Johnson wrote: > > Wow, could that article and headline differ from the actual content any > more? >

Re: Pics from the NATO Protest

2012-05-23 Thread LRS Scout
I have major complaints about KBR. They were conducting ops that should rightly have been conducted by soldiers. Cook is an MOS but ours went on patrols and didn't cook anything, laundry could have been done cheaper by direct hire of locals. We have carpenters and electricians in the Army, no n

Re: Jury finds for Google over Oracle in Java patent case

2012-05-23 Thread Judah McAuley
It's not 100% clear to me. There are two sets of things being argued here, Patents and Copyright. The actual code is what Oracle is claiming was patented. Google agreed that they had had minor infringement. 9 lines of code for a CheckRange function and a couple of Java test files. They and Oracle

Re: Jury finds for Google over Oracle in Java patent case

2012-05-23 Thread Casey Dougall - Uber Website Solutions
On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 3:08 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > Jury gives a clean victory for Google over Oracle on all counts. Now > the next phase of the trail, which is a judicial determination of > whether APIs are even patentable. > -- Patents are a joke. They are hindering our ability to reach

Re: Pics from the NATO Protest

2012-05-23 Thread LRS Scout
I don't agree with that at all. On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 3:18 PM, Casey Dougall - Uber Website Solutions < ca...@uberwebsitesolutions.com> wrote: > > On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 3:00 PM, LRS Scout wrote: > > > I guess I don't see the greed motivation in Afghanistan, share? > > > Islamic Fundamentali

Re: MSNBC: Don't expose Muslim atrocities; it will make Islam look bad

2012-05-23 Thread Jerry Milo Johnson
Wow, could that article and headline differ from the actual content any more? "sharia"? can you say "out of your mind"? a) the "media" showed this whole discussion. b) the host allowed the main woman to speak c) they brought on a "dissenting" view (idiot Harvard professor, a "divinity" prof, not

Re: Pics from the NATO Protest

2012-05-23 Thread Larry C. Lyons
exactly the only greed factor I can see is with KBR, but during that time period they didn't have the same presence as they did in Iraq. I think Tim can enlighten us on that - he was there. But the only real money to be made in Afghanistan are with opium and weed. On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 3:00 PM

Re: Pics from the NATO Protest

2012-05-23 Thread Casey Dougall - Uber Website Solutions
On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 3:00 PM, LRS Scout wrote: > I guess I don't see the greed motivation in Afghanistan, share? Islamic Fundamentalists against Christian Fundamentalists. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http

Re: Jury finds for Google over Oracle in Java patent case

2012-05-23 Thread Dana
woo hoo. Why didn't they start with the APIs tho? Does not make sense to me. Coldfusion Anthology now! > > http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion > Archive: > http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:351263 > Subscription:

Re: Jury finds for Google over Oracle in Java patent case

2012-05-23 Thread LRS Scout
Well good. On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 3:08 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > Jury gives a clean victory for Google over Oracle on all counts. Now > the next phase of the trail, which is a judicial determination of > whether APIs are even patentable. > > > http://www.theverge.com/2012/5/23/3023627/oracl

Jury finds for Google over Oracle in Java patent case

2012-05-23 Thread Judah McAuley
Jury gives a clean victory for Google over Oracle on all counts. Now the next phase of the trail, which is a judicial determination of whether APIs are even patentable. http://www.theverge.com/2012/5/23/3023627/oracle-google-trial-patent-verdict cheers, Judah ~~~

MSNBC: Don't expose Muslim atrocities; it will make Islam look bad

2012-05-23 Thread LRS Scout
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Re: Pics from the NATO Protest

2012-05-23 Thread LRS Scout
I guess I don't see the greed motivation in Afghanistan, share? On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 2:57 PM, Maureen wrote: > > Greed was the motive. Revenge was the justification. Bush's trifecta. > > On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 11:51 AM, GMoney wrote: > > I guess i disagree...at least initially. Initially

Re: Pics from the NATO Protest

2012-05-23 Thread GMoney
On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 1:57 PM, Maureen wrote: > > Greed was the motive. Revenge was the justification. Bush's trifecta. > Greed for what??? Certainly not money...they had none. No oil. No industry. No nothing. I fail to see what we were so greedy over in Afghanistan...? ~~

Re: Pics from the NATO Protest

2012-05-23 Thread Maureen
Greed was the motive. Revenge was the justification. Bush's trifecta. On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 11:51 AM, GMoney wrote: > I guess i disagree...at least initially. Initially, it was all about > revenge. Money certainly became a factor soon thereafter, though.

Re: Occupy Atlanta says - Don't talk to the police....

2012-05-23 Thread GMoney
On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 1:30 PM, Maureen wrote: > > There are no "incorrect facts". If it is incorrect, it is either a > lie, a misconception, spin or disinformation - not a fact. > > A photo is also not a "fact". It is a photo. And you cannot > determine a fact from it unless you are aware o

Re: Pics from the NATO Protest

2012-05-23 Thread GMoney
On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 1:22 PM, Maureen wrote: > > Appropriate action against appropriate enemies is not turning the > other cheek. Not a single Afghan attacked us. The thousands of > innocents killed and the destabilization of an entire country with > absolutely nothing done that made us any

Re: Occupy Atlanta says - Don't talk to the police....

2012-05-23 Thread Maureen
There are no "incorrect facts". If it is incorrect, it is either a lie, a misconception, spin or disinformation - not a fact. A photo is also not a "fact". It is a photo. And you cannot determine a fact from it unless you are aware of the context, and know with certainty that it has not been d

Re: Pics from the NATO Protest

2012-05-23 Thread Maureen
Appropriate action against appropriate enemies is not turning the other cheek. Not a single Afghan attacked us. The thousands of innocents killed and the destabilization of an entire country with absolutely nothing done that made us any safer. Bin Laden may have been in Afghanistan, but his powe

Re: Need a favor

2012-05-23 Thread Maureen
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Re: Occupy Atlanta says - Don't talk to the police....

2012-05-23 Thread Cameron Childress
You are misunderstanding the point entirely, to the point that I don't think you read the preceding thread at all. -Cameron On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 12:18 PM, Eric Roberts < ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: > > Have you seen an occupy protest chant "we are funded by here>"? What does tha

RE: Occupy Atlanta says - Don't talk to the police....

2012-05-23 Thread Pierre Demester
I sure did - thank you :) -Original Message- From: GMoney [mailto:gm0n3...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 1:53 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Occupy Atlanta says - Don't talk to the police On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 12:46 PM, Pierre Demester wrote: > > Stop bad-mouthing m

Re: Pics from the NATO Protest

2012-05-23 Thread GMoney
On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 12:18 PM, Maureen wrote: > > Which is what I said 10 years ago when I was calling for appropriate > action against appropriate targets instead of the war in Afghanistan. > > I posted that here on this list I got my head handed to me. > > It's good to see that people are

Re: Occupy Atlanta says - Don't talk to the police....

2012-05-23 Thread GMoney
On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 12:46 PM, Pierre Demester wrote: > > Stop bad-mouthing my Kenyan conspiracy emails. > Did you get the check i sent you? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusio

RE: Occupy Atlanta says - Don't talk to the police....

2012-05-23 Thread Pierre Demester
Stop bad-mouthing my Kenyan conspiracy emails. On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 12:46 PM, Dana wrote: > > The Republican hire people to write out letters from a script in their > own handwriting. Been doing it for years; at least I was involved in > one such project back in umm... Reagan administrati

RE: Occupy Atlanta says - Don't talk to the police....

2012-05-23 Thread Pierre Demester
Maybe perhaps... you are aware of incorrect facts ? -Original Message- From: Eric Roberts [mailto:ow...@threeravensconsulting.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 1:17 PM To: cf-community Subject: RE: Occupy Atlanta says - Don't talk to the police How is that not true? For an expe

RE: Need a favor

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Re: Pics from the NATO Protest

2012-05-23 Thread Larry C. Lyons
The UN was too hamstrung. This was something entirely up to the western countries. Too many interests in the UN were quite fine with the status quo in Libya. On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 1:13 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > The UN could have done the same thing. > > -Original Message- > From: Lar

RE: Occupy Atlanta says - Don't talk to the police....

2012-05-23 Thread Eric Roberts
How is that not true? For an expert, you seem to be not very aware of who is funding them. -Original Message- From: Pierre Demester [mailto:pie...@demester.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 12:00 PM To: cf-community Subject: RE: Occupy Atlanta says - Don't talk to the police "The

Re: Occupy Atlanta says - Don't talk to the police....

2012-05-23 Thread LRS Scout
Sounds like it. blarg lets make noise about party politics and ignore the downfall of our nation blarg LOOUUDD!! On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 1:14 PM, Maureen wrote: > > Or maybe it just makes him a paid lackey of the mainstream media. > > On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 9:51 AM, Dana wrote: > > > > not

RE: Need a favor

2012-05-23 Thread Eric Roberts
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RE: Need a favor

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RE: Pics from the NATO Protest

2012-05-23 Thread Eric Roberts
The UN could have done the same thing. -Original Message- From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:larrycly...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 11:24 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Pics from the NATO Protest Using Libya as an example, I don't think of any other organization that could ha

Re: Occupy Atlanta says - Don't talk to the police....

2012-05-23 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Its easy writing an email app that determines your congress critter's address and then lets you edit the email before sending it along. The funny part about these wingnutty emails is that although there were quite a few "voices" so to speak, the talking points were almost word for word the same.

RE: Occupy Atlanta says - Don't talk to the police....

2012-05-23 Thread Pierre Demester
No.. for love of god. The DNC sponsors and event. And before someone yells - RNC does the same things. I get a call to show up. From there I get other contacts. -Original Message- From: Maureen [mailto:mamamaur...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 1:21 PM To: cf-communi

Re: Pics from the NATO Protest

2012-05-23 Thread LRS Scout
Well, at the time I thought we were serious about it. We soon learned that Iraq was more important for some reason, in retrospect I'd imagine it comes down to "the tried to kill my daddy". If I thought we were going to pursue a real and lasting change there, and do whatever was necessary to win,

Re: Pics from the NATO Protest

2012-05-23 Thread LRS Scout
No. Had we left at that point it would have been a win, but we decided to stay and make a show of democracy and nation building. Thing is, while I still maintain we could win if we wanted to, it would really ruin us on the world stage and require a huge expansion of our efforts. Huge like reins

Re: Need a favor

2012-05-23 Thread Larry C. Lyons
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Re: Pics from the NATO Protest

2012-05-23 Thread Sam
On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 1:13 PM, LRS Scout wrote: > > Afghanistan is winnable, we just don't have the will or the intestinal > fortitude to do what it would take. Knowing the history of war there before we went in it I can't imagine the confidence of winning was that high. I figured the thought

RE: Occupy Atlanta says - Don't talk to the police....

2012-05-23 Thread Pierre Demester
My typing gets really bad when I am behind schedule. -Original Message- From: Pierre Demester [mailto:pie...@demester.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 1:19 PM To: cf-community Subject: RE: Occupy Atlanta says - Don't talk to the police Yes - I a freelance for a large news organi

Re: Occupy Atlanta says - Don't talk to the police....

2012-05-23 Thread Maureen
The Democrats are a "large news organization"? On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 10:19 AM, Pierre Demester wrote: > > Yes - I a freelance for a large news organization. > > No matter what you called it - Freedom Works, Glenn Beck, George Soros, Van > Jones, etc etc blah blah blah are not news organization

RE: Occupy Atlanta says - Don't talk to the police....

2012-05-23 Thread Pierre Demester
Yes - I a freelance for a large news organization. No matter what you called it - Freedom Works, Glenn Beck, George Soros, Van Jones, etc etc blah blah blah are not news organizations. Someone calls me. I show up with a camera. I photograph what I see. I send an invoice. I get paid. And I have

Re: Pics from the NATO Protest

2012-05-23 Thread Maureen
On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 9:40 AM, LRS Scout wrote: > > Bring our troops home.  Secure our borders.  Enough is enough. Which is what I said 10 years ago when I was calling for appropriate action against appropriate targets instead of the war in Afghanistan. I posted that here on this list I got

Re: Occupy Atlanta says - Don't talk to the police....

2012-05-23 Thread Dana
hmm. And I have the tweets. Both may only be partial truths. But I gotta take a rain check on the rest of this discussion, client breathing down my neck. On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 10:15 AM, Pierre Demester wrote: > > My computer is really slow. Have way to many windows open. > > "I don't believe t

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2012-05-23 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
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Re: Occupy Atlanta says - Don't talk to the police....

2012-05-23 Thread Dana
oh you're freelance? And no Googles were harmed in that bit of research :) it's called identifying a domain in an email address. I looked at demester.com. If there's more out there I didn't look at it. On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 10:12 AM, Pierre Demester wrote: > > Oh. You know how to Google ;) > >

RE: Occupy Atlanta says - Don't talk to the police....

2012-05-23 Thread Pierre Demester
My computer is really slow. Have way to many windows open. "I don't believe that. I believe it started as a grass roots movement and even held to the roots a little longer than the occupy movement. This is mainly due to it's middle class structure. More money and infrastructure from the star

Re: Occupy Atlanta says - Don't talk to the police....

2012-05-23 Thread Maureen
Or maybe it just makes him a paid lackey of the mainstream media. On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 9:51 AM, Dana wrote: > > not questioning your expertise, just questioning your expertise ;) 88,000 > photographs? For who? Of what? Maybe the answers to that make you an expert > on OWS, but let's see what

Re: Pics from the NATO Protest

2012-05-23 Thread Dana
to my continued astonishment I agree with Tim again. By the way, I read that wrongful conviction thing last night and thought its point about wrongful conviction being a more important issue than the death penalty was quite good. On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 10:10 AM, LRS Scout wrote: > > I agree ma

Re: Pics from the NATO Protest

2012-05-23 Thread LRS Scout
Afghanistan is winnable, we just don't have the will or the intestinal fortitude to do what it would take. I all honestly, there was a point after teh Taliban fell, when there were only a very few troops in the country, that we had basically won, and could have left to allow them to build there o

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2012-05-23 Thread Maureen
Thanks, Sam (and everyone else who tested for me). The hosting company is working on a resolution. On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 9:42 AM, Sam wrote: > > http://www.mxtoolbox.com/SuperTool.aspx?action=http%3a%2f%2fwreip.vonspace.biz# > > blacklist:wreip.vonspace.biz Error > DNS Error - Loop detected!

RE: Occupy Atlanta says - Don't talk to the police....

2012-05-23 Thread Pierre Demester
Oh. You know how to Google ;) My employer is not Freedom Works. They display some of my photos. Nor is it George Soros. He has some of my photos on his site too. Or Van Jones.. same thing - he has some of my photos. Or Glenn Beck... he also displays a lot of my photo. It doesn't who it's for. Org

Re: Pics from the NATO Protest

2012-05-23 Thread LRS Scout
I agree man. I think in addition to new ideas in foreign policy we need new ideas domestically. We need to roll back the intelligence apparatus that's been built up, and we need to get most of the intelligence community out of working internally. We need to end the war on drugs. We need to cle

Re: Occupy Atlanta says - Don't talk to the police....

2012-05-23 Thread Jerry Barnes
"The Tea Party has always been grassroots." I don't believe that. I believe it started as a grass roots movement and even held to the roots a little longer than the occupy movement. This is mainly due to it's middle class structure. More money and infrastructure from the start. However, the

Re: Pics from the NATO Protest

2012-05-23 Thread Sam
Maybe we should just use drones and kill anyone suspicious? Oh yeah, we're already doing that. You're plan sounds good for a minute but when you think it through it fails. Who do we bomb? After 9/11 should it have been Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Egypt... Just bombing Afghanistan at the

RE: Occupy Atlanta says - Don't talk to the police....

2012-05-23 Thread Pierre Demester
"The Tea party started out as a grass roots organization until it was taken over by Dick Armey, Fox, the Koch brothes, and friends. " This is not true... but whatever. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.ama

RE: Occupy Atlanta says - Don't talk to the police....

2012-05-23 Thread Pierre Demester
"It does appear to be dishonest claiming to be a grassroots organization yet getting most of your funding and organization from either very rich benefactors or special interest groups, like Freedom Works." My employer is not Freedom Works or George Soros or Van Jones. Though you will find my imag

Re: Pics from the NATO Protest

2012-05-23 Thread GMoney
On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 11:40 AM, LRS Scout wrote: > > I think NATOs usefulness is at an end, but I think we need to be out of the > U.N as well. > > We spend far too much money on defense, and we aren't doing what would be > necessary to win the war we still have going. We have compromised wit

Re: Occupy Atlanta says - Don't talk to the police....

2012-05-23 Thread Dana
maybe. Not saying the Democrats don't do it, but if so I don't know about it. I know for a fact the Republicans do because I have participated. On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 9:48 AM, LRS Scout wrote: > > Come on, form letters are par for the course for any movement, not just > republicans. > > On Wed

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