Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-25 Thread LRS Scout
But so am I right? So is Jerry, and (god I hate this) so is Sam, and let's be honest, his opinions may be text book (much like yours often are in the other direction) but I don't see religion as his motivating factor. On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 2:24 AM, Eric Roberts < ow...@threeravensconsulting.co

RE: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-25 Thread Eric Roberts
They are on the right, are they not? Three Ravens Consulting Eric Roberts Owner/Developer ow...@threeravensconsulting.com tel: 630-486-5255 fax: 630-310-8531 http://www.threeravensconsulting.com -Original Message-

Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-25 Thread LRS Scout
You didn't say that, you said "on the right" which isn't the same thing man. On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 2:08 AM, Eric Roberts < ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: > > Am I wrong? The ones that are trying to codify their religious laws also > scream about the 2nd Amendment. Why is the 1st ame

RE: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-25 Thread Eric Roberts
I do agree that if you are old enough to go into the military, you are old enough to drink. Three Ravens Consulting Eric Roberts Owner/Developer ow...@threeravensconsulting.com tel: 630-486-5255 fax: 630-310-8531 http://www.threeravensconsulting.com --

RE: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-25 Thread Eric Roberts
Am I wrong? The ones that are trying to codify their religious laws also scream about the 2nd Amendment. Why is the 1st amendment any less sacred than the second? Three Ravens Consulting Eric Roberts Owner/Developer ow...@threeravensconsulting.com tel: 630-4

Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-25 Thread LRS Scout
It's sad really. On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 2:04 AM, Eric Roberts < ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: > > Most non-Christians do Tim... > > > Three Ravens Consulting > Eric Roberts > Owner/Developer > ow...@threeravensconsulting.com > tel: 630-486-5255 > f

Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-25 Thread LRS Scout
Even early gnostic Christians. On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 2:04 AM, Eric Roberts < ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: > > I would have to agree. I don't think we are monogamous by nature. Most > cultures before Christianity practiced non-monogamy in form or another. > Even in Judaism, there a

Re: I am not for much gun control, but this sucks...

2012-10-25 Thread LRS Scout
I doubt it, we've been waiting for DC to fix their shit since 2009, and they are being sued again. On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 2:02 AM, Eric Roberts < ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: > > That I don't know but I do know that the Supreme Court struck down the law > that was in place. > > -

RE: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-25 Thread Eric Roberts
Most non-Christians do Tim... Three Ravens Consulting Eric Roberts Owner/Developer ow...@threeravensconsulting.com tel: 630-486-5255 fax: 630-310-8531 http://www.threeravensconsulting.com -Original Message- From: L

RE: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-25 Thread Eric Roberts
I would have to agree. I don't think we are monogamous by nature. Most cultures before Christianity practiced non-monogamy in form or another. Even in Judaism, there are plenty of examples...in the bible...of multiple wives and even concubines. Three Raven

Re: WTF!?!?!??

2012-10-25 Thread LRS Scout
For some weird reason this email won't mark as read. On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 1:56 AM, LRS Scout wrote: > I saw something about this earlier. > > Insane. > > ACAB > > Not really, but you know what I mean. > On Oct 25, 2012 10:58 PM, "Larry C. Lyons" wrote: > >> >> btw this puts a whole new pers

RE: I am not for much gun control, but this sucks...

2012-10-25 Thread Eric Roberts
That I don't know but I do know that the Supreme Court struck down the law that was in place. Three Ravens Consulting Eric Roberts Owner/Developer ow...@threeravensconsulting.com tel: 630-486-5255 fax: 630-310-8531 http://www.threeravensconsulting.com

Re: WTF!?!?!??

2012-10-25 Thread LRS Scout
I saw something about this earlier. Insane. ACAB Not really, but you know what I mean. On Oct 25, 2012 10:58 PM, "Larry C. Lyons" wrote: > > btw this puts a whole new perspective on the phrase taking a bite out of > crime. > > On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 4:14 PM, Larry C. Lyons > wrote: > > > ht

Re: The VAs abuse of the fiduciary program, and the denial of veterans 2nd Amendment Rights under the Constitution of the United States of America.

2012-10-25 Thread LRS Scout
Seriously man thank you. I know you have a following. I really hope we can get this dealt with quickly and with a minimum of fuss. On Oct 26, 2012 1:31 AM, "C. Hatton Humphrey" wrote: > > Posted at > > http://www.eastcoastconservative.com/2012/10/posting-by-request-fighting-va.html > > Network

Re: The world favours Obama by an incredible margin.

2012-10-25 Thread LRS Scout
Thank god for small favors. On Oct 26, 2012 12:06 AM, "Jerry Milo Johnson" wrote: > > Unfortunately it IS the dailycurrant, which is a joke newspaper, a la The > Onion. > > summbitch. > > > > On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 11:47 PM, Dana wrote: > > > > it gets better if you read the article. Apparentl

Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-25 Thread LRS Scout
That's fucking wrong. On Oct 26, 2012 12:15 AM, "Jerry Milo Johnson" wrote: > > yes. I remember the case of one guy on Long Island, iirc, who killed > hundreds of chickens "that way". > > tore them up, and they bled to death. > > On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 12:03 AM, Maureen wrote: > > > > They pro

Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-25 Thread LRS Scout
That's kind of where I come down on it. On Oct 26, 2012 12:03 AM, "Maureen" wrote: > > They probably would if they could talk. Are you saying that sex with > animals constitutes abuse? > > On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 9:00 PM, Eric Roberts < > ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: > > > > > Animal

RE: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-25 Thread LRS Scout
This is going way off topic, and isn't making me comfortable, but if you've seen the movies or read about it, the dogs don't seem to mind, and go after it. Still, yuck. On Oct 26, 2012 12:00 AM, "Eric Roberts" wrote: > > Animals are not able to give consent... > > --

RE: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-25 Thread LRS Scout
Where did he say that? Call them all civil contracts, remove the religious angle totally from the governments part in it. On Oct 25, 2012 11:58 PM, "Eric Roberts" wrote: > > Yes, because separate but equal worked so well last time we tried it... > > > Three

Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-25 Thread LRS Scout
Consent I'd say, abuse. Not cool. But then I've read some K9 women fans that say their dogs love it. Still, the idea makes me queasy. On Oct 25, 2012 11:52 PM, "Maureen" wrote: > > What possible reason exists for sex with animals being illegal? It's > definitely not my cup of tea, but if som

Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-25 Thread LRS Scout
Didn't Washington have something similar happen after the Mr. Hand thing? On Oct 25, 2012 11:36 PM, "Judah McAuley" wrote: > > For what it's worth, I believe that sex with animals is not illegal in > all 50 states. Looking it up (so you don't have to) it seems that it > is illegal in 37 states w

Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-25 Thread LRS Scout
My dad is in the middle of his second divorce. My marriage lasted longer than both of his combined. Traditional marriage exists to an extent, but it's on its last legs. On Oct 25, 2012 10:59 PM, "Jerry Barnes" wrote: > > "Traditional families stay together longer? Longer than what? Football >

RE: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-25 Thread LRS Scout
I think we need a constituional amendment as to the age of majority. I also think it should be lowered to 16 across the board. I was emancipated at 16 and did just fine. The brits let you enlist at 16. So I'd like to see this for voting and drinking and everything. On Oct 25, 2012 10:58 PM, "E

RE: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-25 Thread LRS Scout
Agreed here. No victimless crimes, a return to the ideals of voluntay association and the principle of self ownership. On Oct 25, 2012 10:58 PM, "Eric Roberts" wrote: > > Both should be legal...legalize prostitution and it can be controlled and > taxed. Controlling it mean you also start to el

RE: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-25 Thread LRS Scout
Painting with an awfully broad brush there aren't we Eric? On Oct 25, 2012 10:58 PM, "Eric Roberts" wrote: > > It's irrelevant because that is their opinion and not a reality. Our laws > are not supposed to be based on religious opinions...another point of > hypocrisy on the right. They scream

Re: The VAs abuse of the fiduciary program, and the denial of veterans 2nd Amendment Rights under the Constitution of the United States of America.

2012-10-25 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
Posted at http://www.eastcoastconservative.com/2012/10/posting-by-request-fighting-va.html Networked Blogs will put it on my podcast's facebook page, going to put it some other places tomorrow. Until Later! C. Hatton Humphrey http://www.eastcoastconservative.com No trees were killed in the send

Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-25 Thread LRS Scout
Which doesn't touch on people in open and poly relationships, and swingers. On Oct 25, 2012 10:58 PM, "Maureen" wrote: > > Over 50% of all marriages end in divorce. What the right currently claims > as traditional marriage covers only miniscule portion of actual marriages. > Even the ones that

Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-25 Thread LRS Scout
Sam, being gay, nature or nurture? On Oct 25, 2012 10:58 PM, "Sam" wrote: > > Not sure what your question is so I don't know how to answer. But, I > take it the Gallop poll was acceptable yet you mention sourceless bs. > > You too funny. > > . > > On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 1:33 PM, Larry C. Lyons

Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-25 Thread LRS Scout
The thing I see most often with christians is their ignorance as to the words of Christ, when they strongly root their opposition to things in the old testament. I John 2:7-8 and Galatians 5:14 They also ignore completely the ideas of free will, and to love all mankind, no matter there stations

Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-25 Thread LRS Scout
Persoanlly I wonder if that's a bad thing. I have serious doubts as to whether humans are by nature monogomous. On Oct 25, 2012 10:58 PM, "Sam" wrote: > > Really? > Marriage today is much more casual than it was in 60 years ago. That > doesn't apply to the individual marriage but the institutio

RE: The VAs abuse of the fiduciary program, and the denial of veterans 2nd Amendment Rights under the Constitution of the United States of America.

2012-10-25 Thread LRS Scout
8th paragraph. On Oct 26, 2012 12:49 AM, "Eric Roberts" wrote: > > I didn't see the complete message...unless it was the one he sent out a > couple of months ago... > > > Three Ravens Consulting > Eric Roberts > Owner/Developer > ow...@threeravensconsulting.c

RE: The VAs abuse of the fiduciary program, and the denial of veterans 2nd Amendment Rights under the Constitution of the United States of America.

2012-10-25 Thread LRS Scout
You must have missed that part :) On Oct 25, 2012 11:56 PM, "Eric Roberts" wrote: > > Sounds like a job for the Inspector General...if this is a VA program, > contact the VA's IG > > > Three Ravens Consulting > Eric Roberts > Owner/Developer > ow...@threerave

Re: The VAs abuse of the fiduciary program, and the denial of veterans 2nd Amendment Rights under the Constitution of the United States of America.

2012-10-25 Thread LRS Scout
I'd already hit the NRA, ACLU is a great idea, although they usually pretend the 2nd doesn't exist :) On Oct 25, 2012 11:45 PM, "Maureen" wrote: > > Two other places you might want to contact: The NRA and the ACLU. > > On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 2:03 PM, LRS Scout wrote: > > > > > As many of you

Re: The VAs abuse of the fiduciary program, and the denial of veterans 2nd Amendment Rights under the Constitution of the United States of America.

2012-10-25 Thread LRS Scout
Feel free to post this anywhere you want and to include the contact info. I've posted it all over in the open. On Oct 25, 2012 11:56 PM, "C. Hatton Humphrey" wrote: > > > Please, please, please; share this far and wide. Contact them yourself, > and > > tell them you're concerned. Go to the foll

RE: I am not for much gun control, but this sucks...

2012-10-25 Thread LRS Scout
Has a new law permitting purchase been added to the books? On Oct 25, 2012 10:58 PM, "Eric Roberts" wrote: > > The Chicago gun law was struck down last year, remember...This year has > seen > some of the highest gun death rates ever in the City of Chicago. > > ---

RE: The world favours Obama by an incredible margin.

2012-10-25 Thread Eric Roberts
Sad thing is...it doesn't sound like satire coming from these asshats... Three Ravens Consulting Eric Roberts Owner/Developer ow...@threeravensconsulting.com tel: 630-486-5255 fax: 630-310-8531 http://www.threeravensconsulting.com -

RE: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-25 Thread Eric Roberts
Yes...legally it is because they are not able to give consent. Three Ravens Consulting Eric Roberts Owner/Developer ow...@threeravensconsulting.com tel: 630-486-5255 fax: 630-310-8531 http://www.threeravensconsulting.com -

RE: The VAs abuse of the fiduciary program, and the denial of veterans 2nd Amendment Rights under the Constitution of the United States of America.

2012-10-25 Thread Eric Roberts
I didn't see the complete message...unless it was the one he sent out a couple of months ago... Three Ravens Consulting Eric Roberts Owner/Developer ow...@threeravensconsulting.com tel: 630-486-5255 fax: 630-310-8531 http://www.threeravensconsulting.com --

RE: anyone watch last night's debate?

2012-10-25 Thread Eric Roberts
Speaking of Romney lies...the courts just unsealed the testimony in the divorce case of Staples founder Tom Stemberg where Romney lowballed the value of Staples stock so that Tom's wife wouldn't get as much money. At the time, stock prices were 2.50 a share and that the company wasn't going anywhe

Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-25 Thread Maureen
E.. But he is hardly the first person to kill a chicken. Grandma used to wring their necks and throw them a pot of boiling water. On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 9:14 PM, Jerry Milo Johnson wrote: > > yes. I remember the case of one guy on Long Island, iirc, who killed > hundreds of chickens "that

Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-25 Thread Jerry Milo Johnson
yes. I remember the case of one guy on Long Island, iirc, who killed hundreds of chickens "that way". tore them up, and they bled to death. On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 12:03 AM, Maureen wrote: > > They probably would if they could talk. Are you saying that sex with > animals constitutes abuse? > >

Re: The world favours Obama by an incredible margin.

2012-10-25 Thread Jerry Milo Johnson
Unfortunately it IS the dailycurrant, which is a joke newspaper, a la The Onion. summbitch. On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 11:47 PM, Dana wrote: > > it gets better if you read the article. Apparently the way to avoid date > rape is to pray enough ahead of time, and god gives you a "rape halo" that >

Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-25 Thread Maureen
They probably would if they could talk. Are you saying that sex with animals constitutes abuse? On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 9:00 PM, Eric Roberts < ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: > > Animals are not able to give consent... > > -Original Message- > From: Maureen [mailto:mamamaur...@

Re: The VAs abuse of the fiduciary program, and the denial of veterans 2nd Amendment Rights under the Constitution of the United States of America.

2012-10-25 Thread Maureen
If you read the complete message, you would have seen that he did that already. On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 8:56 PM, Eric Roberts < ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: > > Sounds like a job for the Inspector General...if this is a VA program, > contact the VA's IG > ~~~

Re: We have a new leader....

2012-10-25 Thread Maureen
When I was working as a budget consultant I had to deal with a lot of CEOs and rich types.. With a couple of exceptions, they were all greedy, crazy ego maniacs, and I would not listen to them for advice on how to pour water out of a boot. Of those I've dealt with, Turner and Trump are near the

RE: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-25 Thread Eric Roberts
Animals are not able to give consent... Three Ravens Consulting Eric Roberts Owner/Developer ow...@threeravensconsulting.com tel: 630-486-5255 fax: 630-310-8531 http://www.threeravensconsulting.com -Original Message---

RE: The world favours Obama by an incredible margin.

2012-10-25 Thread Eric Roberts
Unfortunately it's not the onion or freewoodpost...After spending a few months in Indiana on a contract, I can confirm that folks like this are for real...no wonder they call Indiana the south of the north Three Ravens Consulting Eric Roberts Owner/Develop

RE: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-25 Thread Eric Roberts
Yes, because separate but equal worked so well last time we tried it... Three Ravens Consulting Eric Roberts Owner/Developer ow...@threeravensconsulting.com tel: 630-486-5255 fax: 630-310-8531 http://www.threeravensconsulting.com --

RE: The VAs abuse of the fiduciary program, and the denial of veterans 2nd Amendment Rights under the Constitution of the United States of America.

2012-10-25 Thread Eric Roberts
Sounds like a job for the Inspector General...if this is a VA program, contact the VA's IG Three Ravens Consulting Eric Roberts Owner/Developer ow...@threeravensconsulting.com tel: 630-486-5255 fax: 630-310-8531 http://www.threeravensconsulting.com ---

Re: The VAs abuse of the fiduciary program, and the denial of veterans 2nd Amendment Rights under the Constitution of the United States of America.

2012-10-25 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
> Please, please, please; share this far and wide. Contact them yourself, and > tell them you're concerned. Go to the following points of contact and don't > stop until we get an answer. This isn't just happening to me, but to > thousands of returning veterans. Based on this I'm assuming you don'

RE: We have a new leader....

2012-10-25 Thread Eric Roberts
No kidding...is there a virus going around turning people into complete and utter asshats? Or something just driving them out of the wood work like when you spray for roaches? Three Ravens Consulting Eric Roberts Owner/Developer ow...@threeravensconsulting.co

Re: anyone watch last night's debate?

2012-10-25 Thread Maureen
Cherrios are oats. On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 8:50 PM, Dana wrote: > > are Cheerios wheat? According to Wikipedia at least GMO wheat is not > currently in use in the United States. Don't remember how strong the > footnoote was for that factoid. Corn now, apparently almost all corn is > genetically

Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-25 Thread Maureen
What possible reason exists for sex with animals being illegal? It's definitely not my cup of tea, but if someone wants to make out with the family goat why should I care? American citizens are in prison in Seattle for refusing to testify before a grand jury investigating activists, and people a

Re: anyone watch last night's debate?

2012-10-25 Thread Dana
are Cheerios wheat? According to Wikipedia at least GMO wheat is not currently in use in the United States. Don't remember how strong the footnoote was for that factoid. Corn now, apparently almost all corn is genetically modified anymore, and since a whole boatload of foods contain high fructose

Re: The world favours Obama by an incredible margin.

2012-10-25 Thread Dana
it gets better if you read the article. Apparently the way to avoid date rape is to pray enough ahead of time, and god gives you a "rape halo" that will make your date impotent. Swear to god, keep reading. I want to ask if we're sure this isn't satire, but sadly I suspect that really, it really is

Re: The VAs abuse of the fiduciary program, and the denial of veterans 2nd Amendment Rights under the Constitution of the United States of America.

2012-10-25 Thread Maureen
Two other places you might want to contact: The NRA and the ACLU. On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 2:03 PM, LRS Scout wrote: > > As many of you know I have bee struggling with the VA over the fiduciary > program and the 2nd Amendment. Specifically over the lies they are telling > vets that are added to

Re: The world favours Obama by an incredible margin.

2012-10-25 Thread Jerry Milo Johnson
Sigh. Unfortunately, it seems like those kind of statements are NOT a hindrance to getting elected. On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 2:08 PM, Vivec wrote: > > And the GOP goes all in on batshit crazy with this statement by it's latest > election frontrunner in Indiana > > "Indiana U.S. Senate candidate R

Re: We have a new leader....

2012-10-25 Thread Judah McAuley
I'd still have to give the crown to Trump for sheer volume and persistence but Turner definitely turns in a heck of a performance there, no doubt. On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 6:13 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > ...in the 'Disgustingly Rich Asshole Pageant' > > http://mrctv.org/node/117844 > > What a dou

Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-25 Thread Judah McAuley
For what it's worth, I believe that sex with animals is not illegal in all 50 states. Looking it up (so you don't have to) it seems that it is illegal in 37 states with 20 being misdemeanors and 17 being felonies. I remember when there was a case in Oregon awhile back and people realized that ther

Re: I am not for much gun control, but this sucks...

2012-10-25 Thread Jerry Barnes
"M...i dunno...i'm CLOSE to a zealot on this issue. " Nah. You are having a civil discussion and haven't resorted to insults and name calling. You have not been condescending. You have admitted that a lot of your disdain for handguns is just a personal preference. That is not a zealot. B

We have a new leader....

2012-10-25 Thread Scott Stroz
...in the 'Disgustingly Rich Asshole Pageant' http://mrctv.org/node/117844 What a douche bag. -- Scott Stroz --- You can make things happen, you can watch things happen or you can wonder what the f*&k happened. - Cpt. Phil Harris http://xkcd.com/386/ ~

Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-25 Thread Jerry Barnes
"Traditional families stay together longer? Longer than what? Football season? With the divorce rate for 1st time marriages is hovering around 50%..I cannot agree that the 'traditional family' stays together 'longer'." The divorce rate in our country was at 50% ten years ago. If I were to guess,

Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-25 Thread Jerry Barnes
"Being married lost it's meaning!?!??!?!!??!" With a divorce rate at 50%, the argument could already be made that marriage has lost its meaning. J - How do you tell a communist? Well, it's someone who has read Marx and Lenin. And how do you tell an anti-communist? It's someone who understands

Re: I am not for much gun control, but this sucks...

2012-10-25 Thread Jerry Barnes
"I just find it odd that even IF it were possible to live completely without hand guns, you'd still prefer that EVERYONE have one instead. Makes no sense." It's not completely possible to live without guns. It's possible to make them illegal. It's been tried in DC, with horrendous results. But

RE: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-25 Thread Eric Roberts
According to our current laws, they cannot. However, that is a topic for a different debate. Actually Scott...some states go as low as 14... Three Ravens Consulting Eric Roberts Owner/Developer ow...@threeravensconsulting.com tel: 630-486-5255 fax: 6

Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-25 Thread Jerry Barnes
"People are protesting for civil contracts - the name of those contracts, according to the government, is 'marriage'" Ehhh. Semantics. "There was a time, not too long ago, when people felt the same way about inter-racial marriage as they do now about gay marriage. It was wrong then. It is wr

RE: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-25 Thread Eric Roberts
Yes it is. http://www.ageofconsent.com/ageofconsent.htm This has worldwide as well as state... Three Ravens Consulting Eric Roberts Owner/Developer ow...@threeravensconsulting.com tel: 630-486-5255 fax: 630-310-8531 http://www.threeravensconsulting.com -

RE: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-25 Thread Eric Roberts
Both should be legal...legalize prostitution and it can be controlled and taxed. Controlling it mean you also start to eliminate a vector of STDs as you can then enforce condom use as well as regular health checks for STD amongst the workers. It also takes the profit out of criminal control of p

Re: The world favours Obama by an incredible margin.

2012-10-25 Thread Dana
amen On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 6:08 AM, GMoney wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 8:03 AM, Sam wrote: > > > > > I don't see why anyone would be outraged over that. He's not saying > > got intended the rape, just the new life. > > > > Well, where do God's intentions begin and end? If he intended

Re: The world favours Obama by an incredible margin.

2012-10-25 Thread Dana
for what it is work I can confirm that this is pretty much the sentiment in Canada and Britain, that Romney is batshit crazy and jesus, here we go again. On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 4:59 AM, Vivec wrote: > > Most countries think Obama isn't batshit crazy, and Romney is. > They don't trust the GOP,

RE: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-25 Thread Eric Roberts
"Sex with children is illegal because of the harm it causes the children." > > Where does a person stop being a child and ready to make decisions. > Good question...i don't know. Simple...check the state's age of consent laws and the laws regarding age and marriage. That is when they lega

Re: anyone watch last night's debate?

2012-10-25 Thread Dana
yep. And since high-fructose corn syrup is pretty bad for you anywayI think I'll refrain, myself. On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 10:27 AM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 10:07 AM, William Bowen > wrote: > > > >> The only food I consume that might have GMOs are chocolate Cheerios.

RE: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-25 Thread Eric Roberts
It's irrelevant because that is their opinion and not a reality. Our laws are not supposed to be based on religious opinions...another point of hypocrisy on the right. They scream about the constitution when someome looks like they want to take away their guns, but have no problem violating the

RE: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-25 Thread Eric Roberts
To be legally accurate, sex with children is illegal because they cannot give legal consent (yes...it does psychological harm as well like you said). Sex with animals is illegal because an animal is not legally able to give consent. So why should any form of marriage, where all involved are legal

RE: I am not for much gun control, but this sucks...

2012-10-25 Thread Eric Roberts
The Chicago gun law was struck down last year, remember...This year has seen some of the highest gun death rates ever in the City of Chicago. Three Ravens Consulting Eric Roberts Owner/Developer ow...@threeravensconsulting.com tel: 630-486-5255 fax: 630-310-85

The VAs abuse of the fiduciary program, and the denial of veterans 2nd Amendment Rights under the Constitution of the United States of America.

2012-10-25 Thread LRS Scout
As many of you know I have bee struggling with the VA over the fiduciary program and the 2nd Amendment. Specifically over the lies they are telling vets that are added to the fiduciary program. I have been unable to ascertain who is even responsible, much less have my grievances addressed. As such

Re: WTF!?!?!??

2012-10-25 Thread Larry C. Lyons
btw this puts a whole new perspective on the phrase taking a bite out of crime. On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 4:14 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2012/10/25/new-york-police-officer-cannibalism-arrest.html -- Larry C. Lyons web: http://www.lyonsmorris.com/lyons Linke

Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-25 Thread Maureen
Over 50% of all marriages end in divorce. What the right currently claims as traditional marriage covers only miniscule portion of actual marriages. Even the ones that match their definition is skewed, but very few heterosexual couples only have sex for procreation, which is part of the whole "fa

WTF!?!?!??

2012-10-25 Thread Larry C. Lyons
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Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-25 Thread Maureen
Romans Chapter 1, Verses 28-32 would see to condemn to death a bunch of people, including Robert J. Anderson, with his arrogance posturing and lack of mercy. 28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are no

Re: anyone watch last night's debate?

2012-10-25 Thread Maureen
That would be nice to know. On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 10:07 AM, William Bowen wrote: > > > The only food I consume that might have GMOs are chocolate Cheerios. > > My brother-in-law works for General Mills, if you'd like I can find > out whether there's GMOs in Cheerios... (FWIW, I'm pretty sure t

Re: The world favours Obama by an incredible margin.

2012-10-25 Thread Vivec
And the GOP goes all in on batshit crazy with this statement by it's latest election frontrunner in Indiana "Indiana U.S. Senate candidate Richard Mourdock caused fresh controversy today by suggesting that women should pray to avoid being raped. In

Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-25 Thread Sam
Not sure what your question is so I don't know how to answer. But, I take it the Gallop poll was acceptable yet you mention sourceless bs. You too funny. . On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 1:33 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > so where do you get that bit about traditional families. Source please > or is

Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-25 Thread Sam
Really? Marriage today is much more casual than it was in 60 years ago. That doesn't apply to the individual marriage but the institution as though of by society. These days one argument and you file for divorce because it's accepted and almost expected. . On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 1:28 PM, GMone

Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-25 Thread Scott Stroz
Sorry...Jerry pointed out it seems a minority of people are in favor of gay marriage. My bad... On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 1:46 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > I know I am going to regret asking this, but. > > How am I not on topic? Jerry pointed out that it seems a minority of > people are against ga

Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-25 Thread Scott Stroz
I know I am going to regret asking this, but. How am I not on topic? Jerry pointed out that it seems a minority of people are against gay marriage. I simply pointed out there was a time not too long ago that people felt the same way about inter racial marriage. Being gay, like being black or

Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-25 Thread Larry C. Lyons
so where do you get that bit about traditional families. Source please or is is just your usual source less bs. On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 1:13 PM, Sam wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 12:41 PM, Larry C. Lyons > wrote: >> >> Wrong Sam. Its almost a mathematical rule, Sam makes an opinion, and >

Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-25 Thread Judah McAuley
On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 10:17 AM, GMoney wrote: > > Being married lost it's meaning!?!??!?!!??! > > I.I just.do people really think like that? Do people think "If them > gays get married, then my marriage means nothing" > I totally started cheating on my wife because of teh gays. Yu

Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-25 Thread Larry C. Lyons
I have to admit that our marriage changed after my cousin married his now husband 8 years ago in Vancouver, BC. Bit of background, Canada has had same sex marriage since 2005 Wendy and I attended their wedding and had a fantastic time. It was a great party, and we got a bit drunk. Now we have Alex

Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-25 Thread GMoney
On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Sam wrote: > > Ah, do I need to put on my kid gloves? > You know damn well that marriage means less and less each year and > that has nothing to do with gays. Changing the definition will just > speed it along is my point. > Yeah, i think you do, because I stil

Re: anyone watch last night's debate?

2012-10-25 Thread Judah McAuley
On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 10:07 AM, William Bowen wrote: > >> The only food I consume that might have GMOs are chocolate Cheerios. > > My brother-in-law works for General Mills, if you'd like I can find > out whether there's GMOs in Cheerios... (FWIW, I'm pretty sure the > answer is no.) There is

Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-25 Thread Sam
Who's religious? . On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 1:20 PM, LRS Scout wrote: > > Those that let religion over ride common sense sure do. > On Oct 25, 2012 1:17 PM, "GMoney" wrote: > >> ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! htt

Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-25 Thread Sam
Ah, do I need to put on my kid gloves? You know damn well that marriage means less and less each year and that has nothing to do with gays. Changing the definition will just speed it along is my point. . On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 1:17 PM, GMoney wrote: > >> As always you missed the point. I never

Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-25 Thread Sam
It's not even close. . On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 1:14 PM, LRS Scout wrote: > > If we agree that sexual orientation is from birth and genetic in nature > then his example is spot on. > > If we don't, then we don't have anything to discuss, because you're > allowing theology to guide you instead of

Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-25 Thread LRS Scout
Those that let religion over ride common sense sure do. On Oct 25, 2012 1:17 PM, "GMoney" wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 12:13 PM, Sam wrote: > > > > > As always you missed the point. I never said children of gay couples > > have a disadvantage. My point was fewer people would focus on form

Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-25 Thread GMoney
On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 12:13 PM, Sam wrote: > > As always you missed the point. I never said children of gay couples > have a disadvantage. My point was fewer people would focus on forming > and staying in a traditional marriage if being married lost it's > meaning. > Being married lost it's m

Re: I am not for much gun control, but this sucks...

2012-10-25 Thread Larry C. Lyons
I was referring to his use of the data. On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 12:52 PM, GMoney wrote: > > I don't think he was cherry picking, he just didn't notice the nuance in > the argument i was making. > > In any event, I don't think crime stats do a very good job of describing > the affects of hand gun

Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-25 Thread LRS Scout
If we agree that sexual orientation is from birth and genetic in nature then his example is spot on. If we don't, then we don't have anything to discuss, because you're allowing theology to guide you instead of the facts. On Oct 25, 2012 12:56 PM, "Sam" wrote: > > Now you sound like the fool wh

Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-25 Thread Sam
On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 12:41 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > Wrong Sam. Its almost a mathematical rule, Sam makes an opinion, and > the opposite is mostly true. Odd how all these years and you've never proven me wrong even once. > You really need to read this to see how > wrong you are.http://ww

Re: I am not for much gun control, but this sucks...

2012-10-25 Thread Judah McAuley
The first 10 years of handgun bans in DC showed no substantial change in homicide rates. '85 to '92 saw a massive spike in homicide rates from 25 per 100K to 80 per 100K. The laws had not changed. '92 to '06, when Heller was decided, saw the homicide rate plunge from 80 back down to 30 per 100K, b

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