Re: Coporate profits higher than ever before in the wake of the financial crisis

2010-09-04 Thread Judah McAuley
On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 12:21 PM, Robert Munn wrote: > Take a look at this guy's argument. He calls 2000-2010 the worst > financial decade in history, and he has pretty good evidence as to > why. I didn't say that 2000 to 2010 was a good decade financially. Quite the opposite. I just said that st

RE: Coporate profits higher than ever before in the wake of the financial crisis

2010-09-04 Thread Eric Roberts
Did I miss something? What was he arguing? -Original Message- From: Robert Munn [mailto:cfmuns...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, September 04, 2010 3:22 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Coporate profits higher than ever before in the wake of the financial crisis On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 12

Re: Coporate profits higher than ever before in the wake of the financial crisis

2010-09-04 Thread Robert Munn
On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 12:31 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > Go look at a 5 year Dow graph please. > > Beginning of Sept 2005, Dow was 10,200 and change. > Beginning of Sept 2010, Dow is at 10,200 and change. > > Yes, that means that the market is unchanged for a 5 year look. On the > other hand, th

RE: Coporate profits higher than ever before in the wake of the financial crisis

2010-09-03 Thread Eric Roberts
Or speed thinking... -Original Message- From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:larrycly...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 8:42 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Coporate profits higher than ever before in the wake of the financial crisis I suspect that may explain Sam's &

Re: Coporate profits higher than ever before in the wake of the financial crisis

2010-09-03 Thread Sam
You mean like the video you posted of tea party? On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 8:40 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > He's not a very good psychiatrist either. (that's what he did before > being a columnist). > > He's been caught at being wrong on a regular basis. That includes > deliberately misquoting o

Re: Coporate profits higher than ever before in the wake of the financial crisis

2010-09-03 Thread Larry C. Lyons
I suspect that may explain Sam's "speed typing" On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 9:39 PM, Maureen wrote: > > That's not an insult, simply a statement of fact.  To a spell checker, > there, they're and their are valid words.  So it takes a brain to > determine which is correct in context. > > On Thu, Sep 2

Re: Coporate profits higher than ever before in the wake of the financial crisis

2010-09-03 Thread Larry C. Lyons
nope just know a few. As I said I'll leave you with your ignorance. On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 9:33 PM, Sam wrote: > > Sorry, didn't know you were intuit. > > > On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 8:53 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: >> >> You know nothing of the Inuit. So I'll leave you with your ignorance. >> >> >

Re: Coporate profits higher than ever before in the wake of the financial crisis

2010-09-03 Thread Larry C. Lyons
He's not a very good psychiatrist either. (that's what he did before being a columnist). He's been caught at being wrong on a regular basis. That includes deliberately misquoting or cherry picking data etc. Sort of like the entire philosophy of neo-conservatism. On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 9:32 PM, S

Re: Coporate profits higher than ever before in the wake of the financial crisis

2010-09-02 Thread Sam
Finally they get a clue: White House considers pre-midterm package of business tax breaks to spur hiring http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/09/02/AR2010090204235.html On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 10:51 AM, Vivec wrote: > > http://www.alternet.org/economy/148038/are_we_a_klepto

Re: Coporate profits higher than ever before in the wake of the financial crisis

2010-09-02 Thread Sam
That's what I said On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 9:39 PM, Maureen wrote: > > That's not an insult, simply a statement of fact.  To a spell checker, > there, they're and their are valid words.  So it takes a brain to > determine which is correct in context. > > On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 6:35 PM, Sam wrote

Re: Coporate profits higher than ever before in the wake of the financial crisis

2010-09-02 Thread Maureen
That's not an insult, simply a statement of fact. To a spell checker, there, they're and their are valid words. So it takes a brain to determine which is correct in context. On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 6:35 PM, Sam wrote: > > I would take offense but then I remembered you don't insult people. > > >

Re: Coporate profits higher than ever before in the wake of the financial crisis

2010-09-02 Thread Sam
I would take offense but then I remembered you don't insult people. On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 9:19 PM, Maureen wrote: > > Spell checkers don't catch homophonic heterographs.  It takes a brain. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Antho

Re: Coporate profits higher than ever before in the wake of the financial crisis

2010-09-02 Thread Sam
Sorry, didn't know you were intuit. On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 8:53 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > You know nothing of the Inuit. So I'll leave you with your ignorance. > > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.am

Re: Coporate profits higher than ever before in the wake of the financial crisis

2010-09-02 Thread Sam
He rocks. You just don't like neo-cons Are you saying the CBO is wrong? On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 8:52 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > Krauthammer’s  is a bad columnist and is even worse when it comes to > the Washington Redskins. He has all the credibility of a tennis coach > advising a football te

Re: Coporate profits higher than ever before in the wake of the financial crisis

2010-09-02 Thread Sam
Yeah...but did YOU get it or are you going to continue to pump propaganda? On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 7:28 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > Big surprise...I think everything is rocket science for you Sam... > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusi

Re: Coporate profits higher than ever before in the wake of the financial crisis

2010-09-02 Thread Maureen
Spell checkers don't catch homophonic heterographs. It takes a brain. On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 5:54 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > not they're but their. Check your spell checker. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http

Re: Coporate profits higher than ever before in the wake of the financial crisis

2010-09-02 Thread Larry C. Lyons
; jobs need to squirrel away money in case this recession takes another spiral > down and even safe jobs go away = lack of consumer confidence > > -Original Message- > From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 4:23 PM > To: cf-community &g

Re: Coporate profits higher than ever before in the wake of the financial crisis

2010-09-02 Thread Larry C. Lyons
You know nothing of the Inuit. So I'll leave you with your ignorance. On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 7:25 PM, Sam wrote: > > How did it feel when the bat connected? > > > On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 6:34 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: >> >> I've tried seal when I was in the arctic near Cambridge Bay Nunavut. .

Re: Coporate profits higher than ever before in the wake of the financial crisis

2010-09-02 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Krauthammer’s is a bad columnist and is even worse when it comes to the Washington Redskins. He has all the credibility of a tennis coach advising a football team. On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 7:25 PM, Sam wrote: > > Krauthammer’s Take: > > CBO shows by the numbers it has on the cost of the whole Ira

RE: Coporate profits higher than ever before in the wake of the financial crisis

2010-09-02 Thread Jacob
ck of consumer confidence -Original Message- From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 4:23 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Coporate profits higher than ever before in the wake of the financial crisis I guess it is rocket science to some. Companies are s

RE: Coporate profits higher than ever before in the wake of the financial crisis

2010-09-02 Thread Eric Roberts
Big surprise...I think everything is rocket science for you Sam... -Original Message- From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 7:23 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Coporate profits higher than ever before in the wake of the financial crisis I guess it

Re: Coporate profits higher than ever before in the wake of the financial crisis

2010-09-02 Thread Sam
How did it feel when the bat connected? On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 6:34 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > I've tried seal when I was in the arctic near Cambridge Bay Nunavut. . > Too greasy for me. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthol

Re: Coporate profits higher than ever before in the wake of the financial crisis

2010-09-02 Thread Sam
Krauthammer’s Take: CBO shows by the numbers it has on the cost of the whole Iraqi operation [that] it is half of what the [2010] budget deficit alone will be Ooops! So much for that lie. On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 4:21 PM, Vivec wrote: > > If the US had not spent and continue to spend TRILLIONS

Re: Coporate profits higher than ever before in the wake of the financial crisis

2010-09-02 Thread Sam
I guess it is rocket science to some. Companies are saving their money because they're afraid of this admin will destroy them. With the corporate taxes, cap-n-trade, mandatory health taxes, 1099 for everyone just to name a few they are not going to gamble the rainy day funds in this hostile for b

Re: Coporate profits higher than ever before in the wake of the financial crisis

2010-09-02 Thread Larry C. Lyons
lto:jmi...@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 3:24 PM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: Coporate profits higher than ever before in the wake of the > financial crisis > > > Well, as long as those clubs are Louisville Sluggers, made right here in the > good ole U

RE: Coporate profits higher than ever before in the wake of the financial crisis

2010-09-02 Thread Eric Roberts
-community Subject: RE: Coporate profits higher than ever before in the wake of the financial crisis Hmm... yes. -Original Message- From: Vivec [mailto:gel21...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 1:22 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Coporate profits higher than ever before in

RE: Coporate profits higher than ever before in the wake of the financial crisis

2010-09-02 Thread Eric Roberts
Probably not...or at least stuck to Afghanistan...Iraq was illegal and wasteful of both lives and dollars. -Original Message- From: Vivec [mailto:gel21...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 4:22 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Coporate profits higher than ever before in the

RE: Coporate profits higher than ever before in the wake of the financial crisis

2010-09-02 Thread Eric Roberts
Wonder if seal jerky tastes good? Buffalo and venison jerky rock :-D -Original Message- From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:jmi...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 3:24 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Coporate profits higher than ever before in the wake of the financial crisis

RE: Coporate profits higher than ever before in the wake of the financial crisis

2010-09-02 Thread Eric Roberts
-Original Message- From: Robert Munn [mailto:cfmuns...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 3:09 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Coporate profits higher than ever before in the wake of the financial crisis On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 11:07 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > A

Re: Coporate profits higher than ever before in the wake of the financial crisis

2010-09-02 Thread Vivec
NO!!! THe correct Answer is NO!!! No cookies for you! On 2 September 2010 16:26, Jacob wrote: > > Hmm... yes. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/143

RE: Coporate profits higher than ever before in the wake of the financial crisis

2010-09-02 Thread Jacob
Hmm... yes. -Original Message- From: Vivec [mailto:gel21...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 1:22 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Coporate profits higher than ever before in the wake of the financial crisis If the US had not spent and continue to spend TRILLIONS on a war

Re: Coporate profits higher than ever before in the wake of the financial crisis

2010-09-02 Thread Vivec
If the US had not spent and continue to spend TRILLIONS on a war in Iraq and now Afghanistan, would it still be in such a terrible state? On 2 September 2010 15:08, Robert Munn wrote: > > We have a structural deficit caused by out of control entitlement > spending that will never be cured by rai

RE: Coporate profits higher than ever before in the wake of the financial crisis

2010-09-02 Thread Jacob
al Message- From: Judah McAuley [mailto:ju...@wiredotter.com] Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 12:31 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Coporate profits higher than ever before in the wake of the financial crisis Go look at a 5 year Dow graph please. Beginning of Sept 2005, Dow was 10,200

Re: Coporate profits higher than ever before in the wake of the financial crisis

2010-09-02 Thread Judah McAuley
Go look at a 5 year Dow graph please. Beginning of Sept 2005, Dow was 10,200 and change. Beginning of Sept 2010, Dow is at 10,200 and change. Yes, that means that the market is unchanged for a 5 year look. On the other hand, the market bottomed out at 6,600 in March of 2009. That means that, in

Re: Coporate profits higher than ever before in the wake of the financial crisis

2010-09-02 Thread Jerry Johnson
Well, as long as those clubs are Louisville Sluggers, made right here in the good ole U S of A, it could give a needed boost to the economy. Not to mention all the tupperware and jerky-ovens needed to store the baby seals. It's all about the jobs. On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 3:16 PM, Larry C. Lyons

Re: Coporate profits higher than ever before in the wake of the financial crisis

2010-09-02 Thread Robert Munn
On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 12:01 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > Most of the rich don't directly invest in companies, they invest in > the market. The market is doing fine. Those that do invest directly in > companies (VCs) are not hurting for capital. The opposite is true, > actually, the hard part is f

Re: Coporate profits higher than ever before in the wake of the financial crisis

2010-09-02 Thread Larry C. Lyons
I thought that was a requirement for all people living on the east coast of Canada. On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 3:06 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote: > > You forgot that he should also announce that every American will receive a > club with which that can beat baby seals with. > > > On Sep 2, 2010, at 1

Re: Coporate profits higher than ever before in the wake of the financial crisis

2010-09-02 Thread Robert Munn
Two for one on Sunday if you pay with your debit card. On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 12:06 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote: > > You forgot that he should also announce that every American will receive a > club with which that can beat baby seals with. > > ~

Re: Coporate profits higher than ever before in the wake of the financial crisis

2010-09-02 Thread Robert Munn
On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 11:07 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > And you keep complaining about adding to the deficit. By keeping the > Bush gift to the rich it increases the total deficit by a lot. Letting > the tax cuts sunset for those making more than "middle class" income > does help a good deal t

Re: Coporate profits higher than ever before in the wake of the financial crisis

2010-09-02 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
You forgot that he should also announce that every American will receive a club with which that can beat baby seals with. On Sep 2, 2010, at 12:45 PM, Robert Munn wrote: > > This isn't rocket science. The President should go on television > tomorrow and say we're going to extend the Bush tax

Re: Coporate profits higher than ever before in the wake of the financial crisis

2010-09-02 Thread Judah McAuley
On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 10:45 AM, Robert Munn wrote: > > Companies are terrified to expand in the face of significant > uncertainties in regulations (cap and trade), taxes, and consumer > sentiment. I think that this is part of it but you are way overstating the case. Consumer demand is 70% of th

Re: Coporate profits higher than ever before in the wake of the financial crisis

2010-09-02 Thread Jerry Barnes
It's an interesting article. I looked but could not find a break down of who is doing well. It would be interesting to see how many are financial institutions that were bailed out at tax payer expense. Whenever such an institute was found, it would be hard to argue that it was capitalism at wor

Re: Coporate profits higher than ever before in the wake of the financial crisis

2010-09-02 Thread Larry C. Lyons
And you keep complaining about adding to the deficit. By keeping the Bush gift to the rich it increases the total deficit by a lot. Letting the tax cuts sunset for those making more than "middle class" income does help a good deal towards reducing the deficit. Remember it was under the republican

Re: Coporate profits higher than ever before in the wake of the financial crisis

2010-09-02 Thread Robert Munn
Companies are terrified to expand in the face of significant uncertainties in regulations (cap and trade), taxes, and consumer sentiment. This isn't rocket science. The President should go on television tomorrow and say we're going to extend the Bush tax cuts and defer cap and trade legislation u

Re: Coporate profits higher than ever before in the wake of the financial crisis

2010-09-02 Thread Casey Dougall
On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 10:51 AM, Vivec wrote: > > > http://www.alternet.org/economy/148038/are_we_a_kleptocracy_and_what_does_that_mean_anyway_/ > > But > as Washington Post business reporter Steve Pearlstein noted recently, > while “the jobs haven't returned, corporate profits surely have and,

Coporate profits higher than ever before in the wake of the financial crisis

2010-09-02 Thread Vivec
http://www.alternet.org/economy/148038/are_we_a_kleptocracy_and_what_does_that_mean_anyway_/ "In some ways, the economic landscape we face defies conventional explanation. It’s true that consumers aren’t spending a lot -- measures of consumer confidence are approaching their all-time low -- and