http://dnr.maryland.gov/publiclands/southern/sandypoint.html
On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 12:47 PM, Dana wrote:
> yeah, but notice that it will be a freshwater beach also -- it's on the
> Potomac not the Atlantic. However, that doesn't mean the locals haven't
> trucked in some sand. My neighborhood i
yeah, but notice that it will be a freshwater beach also -- it's on the
Potomac not the Atlantic. However, that doesn't mean the locals haven't
trucked in some sand. My neighborhood in Annapolis did. But a lot of beaches
in the Chesapeake Bay area are private.
Come to think of it there is a park
Until Later!
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http://www.eastcoastconservative.com
> Do you want sandy beach or just seashore? I ask because southern Maryland
> has quite a but of the latter but not so much sand; the Chesapeake Bay is
> wetlands mostly.
Yeah, I was looking at beaches around MD and DE, they're
Do you want sandy beach or just seashore? I ask because southern Maryland
has quite a but of the latter but not so much sand; the Chesapeake Bay is
wetlands mostly.
I quite enjoyed Solomon's Island when I went. That said, if all you want is
waves and seagulls there is probably something of the ki
Going to resurrect this thread, not because I want to see Larry and
Dana argue the finer points of levels of danger in various MSA's but
because I've been asked about adding a day at a beach to the
itinerary.
As I said before, we're staying in Quantico. Makes for about a 4 hour
car drive to Ocea
On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 7:43 AM, Dana wrote:
>
> well :p it was where they were going, DC was ;) wouldn't have said the same
> about... Phoenix say ... because I don't know it at that level.
Be cautious in Mesa! (I'm just kidding, Mesonites).
People can have fierce loyalties to other people, pl
> Federal Triangle :)
I thought that was being overrun by angry mobs that were covertly
organized by conservative media pundits driving buses through the Lord
& Taylor stores...
Or maybe that was Capitol South
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> If you have to resort to this sort of crzap then the discussion is
> over. As far as I'm concerned the only possible response in this
> case is Fuck You Asshole.
Interesting, I couldn't find that METRO stop anywhere on the map!
~~
Larry
Sorry, but you have not been civil. Or even rational. I think if you re-read
this thread after you take that walk you may see that. Or not. Not that I
really care.
Have a good day.
Dana
On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 12:45 PM, Larry Lyons wrote:
>
> >
> >Larry is an ass who thinks he knows DC
>
>Larry is an ass who thinks he knows DC because he lives in a townhouse in a
>subdivison fifty miles away in another state ;p Also, it really upsets him
>when people tell him he isn't omniscient.
I've tried to be civil in this discussion, shows how useless that desire has
been. I've not done a
like comparing MSAs in an attempt to disprove a truism about a neighborhood?
Apple meet orange, Naturally they don't have a lot in common.
Seriously dude. You have gotten way way off the original point, and nobody
else cares any more. You should go take a walk or something.
Or, you could redefine
>I suspect on any other list where Larry posts ::mumble:: It wouldn't be so
>bad if he wold at least speak to his own point...
>
Look at how stuff is discussed in peer reviewed journals - there's a little
thing called data you know. Like stuff that's real and not some fantasy
masquerading as an
well :p it was where they were going, DC was ;) wouldn't have said the same
about... Phoenix say ... because I don't know it at that level.
>Speaking of, I'm a little bummed because this old apartment building
>next to my old home burned down yesterday or so (depending on how you
>define day).
Y
>I'm on the road a lot lately
not enough apparently.
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On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 3:02 AM, Dana wrote:
>
> no they are not. I picked them because they are adjacent to downtown. The
> worst is .. hm, hard to say, but maybe Central and Texas or thereabouts. Or
> perhaps Westgate, just for sheer desolation. But most of those people own
> their homes. You rea
no they are not. I picked them because they are adjacent to downtown. The
worst is .. hm, hard to say, but maybe Central and Texas or thereabouts. Or
perhaps Westgate, just for sheer desolation. But most of those people own
their homes. You really need a definition of bad. Where I am right now off
Did I miss the 24hr mark? ;)
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 5:18 AM, Dana wrote:
>
> well you know, I have never met you so I dunno where you stand ethnically,
Ethnically, I'm whiter than white-bread. Hair gets pretty blonde in
the sun. Eyes as blue as... well, something blue.
I've been to DC a few t
I'm on the road a lot lately
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 9:56 PM, Dana wrote:
>
> don't you live in New York City? That's the east coast, hun.
>
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don't you live in New York City? That's the east coast, hun.
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 10:38 PM, Sam wrote:
>
> East Coast?
> Hater is such a strong word.
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 9:31 PM, Dana wrote:
> >
> > Sam is an East Coast hater elite wannabe, lol
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 10:30 PM
who the hell says I am afraid of blacks? That's actually funny, if you knew
:) Just saying, over here the people who want to steal have better
opportunities than street robberies.
http://www.sfreporter.com/stories/pay_to_play_a_z/4401/
http://www.newwest.net/index.php/city/article/3377/C110/L110
East Coast?
Hater is such a strong word.
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 9:31 PM, Dana wrote:
>
> Sam is an East Coast hater elite wannabe, lol
>
> On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 10:30 PM, Dana wrote:
>
>> why is it that you tend to wind up making these posts at 1:30 AM your time?
>> Got to take out your frustr
This seems to be the bias I was referring to. If you understood Blacks
the way you do Latinos and Native Americans you wouldn't be afraid of
them.
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 4:18 AM, Dana wrote:
>
> I don't mean to condescend, but have you ever been to DC? If so, which
> parts? I am curious. Cause I
Sam is an East Coast hater elite wannabe, lol
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 10:30 PM, Dana wrote:
> why is it that you tend to wind up making these posts at 1:30 AM your time?
> Got to take out your frustrations over closing time or what?
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 10:26 PM, Sam wrote:
>
>>
>> What
why is it that you tend to wind up making these posts at 1:30 AM your time?
Got to take out your frustrations over closing time or what?
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 10:26 PM, Sam wrote:
>
> What a coincidence, I find most of your ramblings Onionesque.
>
> On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 10:46 PM, Dana wrote:
What a coincidence, I find most of your ramblings Onionesque.
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 10:46 PM, Dana wrote:
> Larry is worse. You at least are comedic relief, but he's so smug agres with
> me so much dammit.
~|
Want to reach the
Ha. I used to live in Martinsburg, so I know better.
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 7:57 AM, Scott Stroz wrote:
>
> Hey...watch it. We has some guy get beat up real bad in Harper's Ferry
> last week. I heard he even got a bruise. ;)
>
> On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 9:54 AM, Dana wrote:
> >
> > well, yeah, if
Hey...watch it. We has some guy get beat up real bad in Harper's Ferry
last week. I heard he even got a bruise. ;)
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 9:54 AM, Dana wrote:
>
> well, yeah, if you include Harper's Ferry I guess it would be :) Nice town
> but it's a world away from my actual point.
>
>>Despite s
I suspect on any other list where Larry posts ::mumble:: It wouldn't be so
bad if he wold at least speak to his own point...
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 7:45 AM, Scott Stroz wrote:
>
> I love this list.
>
> Where else can an innocuous question like 'where are some cool places
> to go in DC?' spiral
yep as predicted.. the mind refuses to be confused by facts.
> N/P. Its just I'm getting pissed at the prejudices exhibited against DC.
> More often than not the people who are arguing that it horribly dangerous
> nasty etc, argue by anecdote or vague reminiscence, rarely by real data.
> More of
well, yeah, if you include Harper's Ferry I guess it would be :) Nice town
but it's a world away from my actual point.
>Despite some people's prejudices and preconceived notions DC has a lower
violent crime rate than many cities. Yes there are bad >areas in the city,
but overall its quite safe.
A
> I love this list.
>
> Where else can an innocuous question like 'where are some cool places
> to go in DC?' spiral into a prick waving contest on who's city is
> safer?
Hence the reason I invoked the CF-Community Post Formula rule, which
when invoked generally causes the arguments to come to so
I love this list.
Where else can an innocuous question like 'where are some cool places
to go in DC?' spiral into a prick waving contest on who's city is
safer?
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 9:29 AM, Larry Lyons wrote:
>
>>Okay, I'm going to invoke the formulaic argument - any time that I
>>post, withi
>Okay, I'm going to invoke the formulaic argument - any time that I
>post, within a reasonable number of posts someone, typically Sam,
>Gruss, Larry or one of the other regulars will make a snarky comment
>and then an exchange will begin that will drag the thread onto a new,
>heretofore unexpected
>wow, you included west virginia in a discussion of the crime rate on capitol
>hill? ;P
>
Its included in the MSA. I didn't make up these definitions, they're decided by
the Census and the OMB. For that matter there are areas in the Albuquerque MSA
that possibly should not be included in the MS
well you know, I have never met you so I dunno where you stand ethnically,
but I'm pretty sure you would at the time have qualified as a young male,
whose perceptions, I note, might be different. You seem to be having a
little trouble with the subtleties of what I am saying too and yo're
generally
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 2:42 AM, denstar wrote:
>> Yeah, I suck at punch-lines/fables.
>
> I think I meant parable.
or parable-s, even.
--
The first merit which attracts in the pages of a good writer, or the talk
of a brilliant conversationalist, is the apt choice and contrast of the
words emplo
> Yeah, I suck at punch-lines/fables.
I think I meant parable.
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To think is to speak low; to speak is to think aloud.
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On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 10:28 PM, Dana wrote:
>
> Yes, I know. I even said that.
...
Location, location, location. =)
I'm an old man now, so maybe this is a kinder, gentler 'burque... your
take on the town sounds pretty nice, compared to what I grew up in.
DC *is* especially sad I guess, being
you would ;) I really do have to get some work done here, but:
a) fewer black in albuquerque than in dc but the proportion is not trivial,
and that would be true of almost any other city since dc is so very black
b) my post did not contain the word ghetto. Nor the phrase "a class above."
I am no
I read that as: Very few blacks in NM so I feel safe walking the
streets at night.
Or, ghetto Mexican and Native Americans are a class above ghetto Blacks?
I'm in for a shitstorm for saying it but that's what I see.
Who started this thread anyway?
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 9:28 PM, Dana wrote:
>
>
wow, you included west virginia in a discussion of the crime rate on capitol
hill? ;P
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 7:30 PM, Larry Lyons wrote:
>
> Here's another way to look at the data, from 2006. This is a ranking of 300
> MSA's in the US and violent crime rate per 100,000.
> http://www.crimetrends
Yes, I know. I even said that.
You are still stuck on the macro scale. Start breaking it down into who the
violence affects and you might see what I mean. But hey, why bother?
Sociology is so boring. Just take a stroll up Benning Road tonight looking
for some new friends. Ask the first five guys
Actually, that is pretty much every post on this list :D
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 7:39 PM, C. Hatton Humphrey wrote:
>
> Okay, I'm going to invoke the formulaic argument - any time that I
> post, within a reasonable number of posts someone, typically Sam,
> Gruss, Larry or one of the other regulars
Dude, get over yourself. You ain't all that.
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 4:39 PM, C. Hatton Humphrey wrote:
>
> Okay, I'm going to invoke the formulaic argument - any time that I
> post, within a reasonable number of posts someone, typically Sam,
> Gruss, Larry or one of the other regulars will make
Here's another way to look at the data, from 2006. This is a ranking of 300
MSA's in the US and violent crime rate per 100,000.
http://www.crimetrends.com/id4.html
location rate per 100,000 ranking
Albuquerque, NM M.S.A. 777.832
Washington-Arli
Dammit..I did not make this list...must try harder.
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 7:39 PM, C. Hatton Humphrey wrote:
>
> Okay, I'm going to invoke the formulaic argument - any time that I
> post, within a reasonable number of posts someone, typically Sam,
> Gruss, Larry or one of the other regulars
yeah and the crime rate per capita is actually quite high in Albuquerque,
but it is confined to certain populations only. I personally can walk around
at all hours with very little likelihood of trouble.
You are being disingenous, as usual. I see your statistics and laugh. They
only mean what the
Okay, I'm going to invoke the formulaic argument - any time that I
post, within a reasonable number of posts someone, typically Sam,
Gruss, Larry or one of the other regulars will make a snarky comment
and then an exchange will begin that will drag the thread onto a new,
heretofore unexpected cour
> But they looked scary :)
>
> On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 3:29 PM, Larry Lyons
> wrote:
> > So as you were saying? To put it another way, what do you think is
> more reliable, someone's semi-uninformed opinion based mainly on
> anectdotes or hard data.
>
That's why I prefer to look at the real nu
>it's a heck of a lot more dangerous than Albuquerque, I'l tell you that, and
>definitely more so than upstate New York. But if he grew up there he knows
>where not to go, well enough anyway, so there is no need to argue further
>with a closed mind about it.
Nope, you're wrong. The Albuquerque MS
But they looked scary :)
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 3:29 PM, Larry Lyons wrote:
> So as you were saying? To put it another way, what do you think is more
> reliable, someone's semi-uninformed opinion based mainly on anectdotes or
> hard data.
>
~
>Dana was there last year :) and saw you there :) I also talk frequently to
>good friends who still live there.
>
>You're still on that kick about what a nice safe place it is these days.
>huh? I always love hearing that from people who never leave Northern
>Virginia.
>
Can't be me, I go througho
it's a heck of a lot more dangerous than Albuquerque, I'l tell you that, and
definitely more so than upstate New York. But if he grew up there he knows
where not to go, well enough anyway, so there is no need to argue further
with a closed mind about it.
That incident at Howard U last year was pr
Dana was there last year :) and saw you there :) I also talk frequently to
good friends who still live there.
You're still on that kick about what a nice safe place it is these days.
huh? I always love hearing that from people who never leave Northern
Virginia.
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 9:39 AM,
> How do you set the shutdown time. For our four year old it seems
> to be permanently set to 2 hours later than when we want her to
> go to bed, no matter what that time is for us.
My use of the term "Shutdown time" isn't the same as when he actually
goes to sleep... it's that magical moment whe
> As for the areas in DC, its like any other city, there are good ones and bad
> ones. I just don't think that DC is any worse than other US cities, no matter
> what Dana pontificates about the place. Living in a place years and years ago
> does not give one expertise in what the place is like
>Alright Larry, cut it out...get out of my brain! I had a similar
>thought the first time we went there.
Hey I used to be a psychologist, what do you expect?
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> (*laughs*) Regardless of time, dalmatians can't change their spots,
> if
> you know what I mean... and it's always better to be safe than sorry.
>
> 'sides, the 4 year old's "shutdown" time is around 7pm; any later
> than
> that and things have an exponentially increasing chance of going
> ba
Alright Larry, cut it out...get out of my brain! I had a similar
thought the first time we went there.
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 11:43 AM, Larry Lyons wrote:
>
> to me it reminds me too much of one of those butterfly collections, with all
> the insects pinned to a display board.
>
> that said the
You're right, it's an old thread. No need to rehash it.
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 8:56 PM, Robert Munn wrote:
>
> On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 8:40 PM, Sam wrote:
>
>>
>> I think that's Dana for Black neighborhood.
>>
>
> Dude, uncalled for.
~
(*laughs*) Regardless of time, dalmatians can't change their spots, if
you know what I mean... and it's always better to be safe than sorry.
'sides, the 4 year old's "shutdown" time is around 7pm; any later than
that and things have an exponentially increasing chance of going
badly.
On Tue, Aug
to me it reminds me too much of one of those butterfly collections, with all
the insects pinned to a display board.
that said the place is pretty cool.
Up in College Park there's also the oldest operating airport in the country,
its also has a pretty impressive museum on aviation history:
http
>I think it's Dana for knows the area well.
I don't think that Dana's been in the area for years, so I'd take some of her
warnings with more than a grain of salt.
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> Hatton, where did you go to High School?
> Me.. Hayfield through 10th grade, a year in private school and graduated
> (barely) from Edison High
Wife and I both went to Mt Vernon - I was only there from 1990-1992;
my wife's dad got stationed in Germany for her senior year.
I had a friend or two
Humphrey [mailto:chumph...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 9:54 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Family Vacation Advise
Thanks for all the advice folks! I thought I had mentioned this
before but guess I didn't elaborate - my wife and I both lived in
Alexandria when we were in High S
Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 7:20 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Family Vacation Advise
We're going to be driving down to play tourist in the DC area on the
week before Labor day - the first week of Sept. We're going with my
in-laws and have a two room suite booked at Quantico (nice thin
I had a friend who lived next door ro an open air drug market in Langley
Park (yeah I know it's not Capitol Hill but bear with me.) He actually felt
safer -- the kids watched his house and were very courteous to him. Matter
of fact, I can attest to the fact that when I would be helping some little
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 9:15 PM, Dana wrote:
>
> He's just being a jerk. It's actually rather white for DC, if we MUST think
> of it in terms of race -- all those senators and supreme court justices,
> yanno. But those million-dollar townhomes are sometimes within a couple of
> blocks of crack mar
He's just being a jerk. It's actually rather white for DC, if we MUST think
of it in terms of race -- all those senators and supreme court justices,
yanno. But those million-dollar townhomes are sometimes within a couple of
blocks of crack markets, housing projects and various other desperate
peop
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 8:40 PM, Sam wrote:
>
> I think that's Dana for Black neighborhood.
>
Dude, uncalled for.
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I think it's Dana for knows the area well.
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 9:40 PM, Sam wrote:
>
> I think that's Dana for Black neighborhood.
>
> On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 7:15 PM, Dana wrote:
> >
> > museums are safe -- I'd be careful about going to the Vietnam memorial
> after
> > dark is all I am sayin
I think that's Dana for Black neighborhood.
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 7:15 PM, Dana wrote:
>
> museums are safe -- I'd be careful about going to the Vietnam memorial after
> dark is all I am saying. For example. And if you are local you know what i
> mean about the Hill.
~~~
My favorite museum is here:
http://www.nasm.si.edu/UdvarHazy/
Its located right next to Dulles and if you have even a passing
interest in aviation, you will love it.
My favorite displays: the Space Shuttle Enterprise, an SR-71 Blackbird
and the Enola Gay.
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 7:19 PM, C. Hat
museums are safe -- I'd be careful about going to the Vietnam memorial after
dark is all I am saying. For example
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 7:53 PM, C. Hatton Humphrey wrote:
>
> Thanks for all the advice folks! I thought I had mentioned this
> before but guess I didn't elaborate - my wife and I bo
museums are safe -- I'd be careful about going to the Vietnam memorial after
dark is all I am saying. For example. And if you are local you know what i
mean about the Hill.
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 7:53 PM, C. Hatton Humphrey wrote:
>
> Thanks for all the advice folks! I thought I had mentioned
Thanks for all the advice folks! I thought I had mentioned this
before but guess I didn't elaborate - my wife and I both lived in
Alexandria when we were in High School... actually, my dad worked on
the Hill for quite some time. I used to take myself through the
different museums when that was a
the Zoo used to be awesome and probably still is ;)
By the way, the Mall is not all that safe after dark. I know several people
who were robbed there. Something to keep in mind. Capitol Hill is a also a
good place to get in trouble, so don't stray too far from the government
buildings.
Kids alwa
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 5:33 PM, Larry wrote:
>
> >
> > VRE is pretty bland, but it is a train. If I remember right it costs
> > around $9 one way. There is a train museum in Maryland that has the
> > first train in the US btw.
>
> Found it, the museum is in Ellicott City - Between Balitmore and
>
> VRE is pretty bland, but it is a train. If I remember right it costs
> around $9 one way. There is a train museum in Maryland that has the
> first train in the US btw.
Found it, the museum is in Ellicott City - Between Balitmore and DC:
http://www.ecborail.org/
>We're going to be driving down to play tourist in the DC area on the
>week before Labor day - the first week of Sept. We're going with my
>in-laws and have a two room suite booked at Quantico (nice thing about
>having an army retiree for a father-in-law).
>
>Looking at the map, there's a VRE sta
>On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 4:19 PM, C. Hatt
>
>>
>> It's going to be four adults and two kids (7 and 4) - our goal is to
>> have an easy visit, going to the museums and/or zoo depending on
>> weather and how we feel. Any suggestions?
>>
>
>Will you have strollers for the kids? My vote is to minimize
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 4:19 PM, C. Hatton wrote:
>
> It's going to be four adults and two kids (7 and 4) - our goal is to
> have an easy visit, going to the museums and/or zoo depending on
> weather and how we feel. Any suggestions?
>
Will you have strollers for the kids? My vote is to minimi
We're going to be driving down to play tourist in the DC area on the
week before Labor day - the first week of Sept. We're going with my
in-laws and have a two room suite booked at Quantico (nice thing about
having an army retiree for a father-in-law).
Looking at the map, there's a VRE station r
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