Re: Birthers insanity explained - McCain was born in Panama btw.

2009-10-20 Thread Jerry Barnes
"Let me put it this way about Keys in the Maryland election, he started off at the bottom of the barrel and began digging deeper. He alienated almost every group he would have needed to win. The seat could have been his for the taking if he had been even a bit sensible." Ahhh. I don't follow Key

Re: Birthers insanity explained - McCain was born in Panama btw.

2009-10-20 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Let me put it this way about Keys in the Maryland election, he started off at the bottom of the barrel and began digging deeper. He alienated almost every group he would have needed to win. The seat could have been his for the taking if he had been even a bit sensible. On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 3:4

Re: Birthers insanity explained - McCain was born in Panama btw.

2009-10-20 Thread Jerry Barnes
"No, Keyes is bat-shit crazy." I don't know if he is bat-shit crazy, but he is extremely conservative. He makes most GOP members look like full-blown socialists. " he couldn't win against a democrat in Maryland who was incompetent to say the least" That means nothing. I have seen plenty of el

Re: Birthers insanity explained - McCain was born in Panama btw.

2009-10-20 Thread Gruss Gott
> Larry wrote: > > I had to suffer listening to the person when he was running for > Maryland's Senate seat 7 years ago in '02. too long. I saw him last year. his logic on things was like a Pollock painting. ~| Want to reach t

Re: Birthers insanity explained - McCain was born in Panama btw.

2009-10-20 Thread Larry C. Lyons
I had to suffer listening to the person when he was running for Maryland's Senate seat 7 years ago in '02. Some of the stuff he said on the stump was right wing extreme even when compared to Barbera Buchannan of Minnesota. I really don't think the guy's insane. He's an extremist trying to make a

Re: Birthers insanity explained - McCain was born in Panama btw.

2009-10-19 Thread Michael Grant
Clayton Bigsby I believe. On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 11:26 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > I think he might be. He really reminds me of the blind, black KKK dude > in the Chappelle Show skit except Keyes is more crazy. > > On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 6:11 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > > > I wonder if this<

Re: Birthers insanity explained - McCain was born in Panama btw.

2009-10-19 Thread Judah McAuley
I think he might be. He really reminds me of the blind, black KKK dude in the Chappelle Show skit except Keyes is more crazy. On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 6:11 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > I wonder if > thisbirther > is racist?

Re: Birthers insanity explained - McCain was born in Panama btw.

2009-10-19 Thread Gruss Gott
> JJ wrote: > > No, Keyes is bat-shit crazy. > Yeah, I saw him speak in Chicago and ... whoa. I truly believe he's insane. Glen beck just plays an insane guy on TV but Keyes? He's the real deal. actually insane. ~| Want to r

Re: Birthers insanity explained - McCain was born in Panama btw.

2009-10-19 Thread Larry C. Lyons
just a complete loon. Seriously, he couldn't win against a democrat in Maryland who was incompetent to say the least. Then the republicans made him a parachute candidate against Obama where he was was thoroughly trashed in the election. so I suspect that he's a bit bitter over that defeat. On Mon

Re: Birthers insanity explained - McCain was born in Panama btw.

2009-10-19 Thread Jerry Johnson
No, Keyes is bat-shit crazy. On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 9:11 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > I wonder if this< > http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2009/02/obama-birth-cer.html > >birther > is racist? > ~| Want to reach the

Re: Birthers insanity explained - McCain was born in Panama btw.

2009-10-19 Thread Jerry Barnes
I wonder if thisbirther is racist? ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists

Re: Birthers insanity explained - McCain was born in Panama btw.

2009-10-19 Thread Gruss Gott
> Scott wrote: > > You are also making the assumption that ALL birthers are racist, > again, something we disagree on. > Uh, no. As I've written at least 5 times I think some are racists and the rest are reactionaries and loons. Here's what I wrote at the top of this thread: "It's an alliance

Re: Birthers insanity explained - McCain was born in Panama btw.

2009-10-19 Thread Scott Stroz
You are also making the assumption that ALL birthers are racist, again, something we disagree on. On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 7:20 PM, Gruss Gott wrote: > >> Scott wrote: >> I never said that none of the birthers are racist, but I don't think >> they all are. > > See?  You've finally come around to

Re: Birthers insanity explained - McCain was born in Panama btw.

2009-10-19 Thread Scott Stroz
No, you said that trying to 'de-legitimizing' the president was racist. That we do not agree on. On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 7:20 PM, Gruss Gott wrote: > >> Scott wrote: >> I never said that none of the birthers are racist, but I don't think >> they all are. > > See?  You've finally come around to m

Re: Birthers insanity explained - McCain was born in Panama btw.

2009-10-19 Thread Gruss Gott
> Scott wrote: > I never said that none of the birthers are racist, but I don't think > they all are. See? You've finally come around to my position because that's exactly what I said. I said it's a conspiracy of racists, reactionaries, and wackos. So neither of us thing they all are. We agre

Re: Birthers insanity explained - McCain was born in Panama btw.

2009-10-18 Thread Jerry Barnes
"If he's thought as Democrat Lite, I'd hate to see what the right wing would be, Nazi regalia underneath Klan robes?" As someone else noted, the klan made famous for its brutality was practically an extension of the Southern Democratic Party. Kind of like Acorn and the Democratic party now. As

Re: Birthers insanity explained - McCain was born in Panama btw.

2009-10-18 Thread Scott Stroz
On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 10:15 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > Scott without even trying there are quite a few of his racist quotes: > "The NAACP should have riot rehearsal. They should get a liquor store > and practice robberies." > source: http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=2549 I admit that is r

Re: Birthers insanity explained - McCain was born in Panama btw.

2009-10-18 Thread Sam
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704322004574477021697942920.html?mod=WSJ_hpp_RIGHTTopCarousel On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 7:34 AM, Sam wrote: > On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 7:15 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: >> >> Scott without even trying there are quite a few of his racist quotes: >> "The

Re: Birthers insanity explained - McCain was born in Panama btw.

2009-10-18 Thread Sam
On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 7:15 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > Scott without even trying there are quite a few of his racist quotes: > "The NAACP should have riot rehearsal. They should get a liquor store > and practice robberies." > source: http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=2549 I don't think he s

Re: Birthers insanity explained - McCain was born in Panama btw.

2009-10-18 Thread Larry C. Lyons
thing is that he has said similar stuff more recently. Its a pattern this person uses regularly, he goes right up to the legal edge of a hate speech. On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 10:15 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > Scott without even trying there are quite a few of his racist quotes: > "The NAACP shoul

Re: Birthers insanity explained - McCain was born in Panama btw.

2009-10-18 Thread Sam
On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 6:49 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > Lets see as a ESPN commentator Rush Limbaugh said that Philadelphia > Eagles quarterback Donovan McNabb was overrated because the media > wanted to see a black quarterback do well. That's not racists. Or are white folk not allowed to tal

Re: Birthers insanity explained - McCain was born in Panama btw.

2009-10-18 Thread Sam
On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 10:28 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > Limbaugh admitted to telling a black listener to "Take that bone out > of your nose and call me back" He said that 30 years ago as a music DJ and said often he feels really bad for saying it. and saying "Have you ever noticed how > all

Re: Birthers insanity explained - McCain was born in Panama btw.

2009-10-18 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Scott without even trying there are quite a few of his racist quotes: "The NAACP should have riot rehearsal. They should get a liquor store and practice robberies." source: http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=2549 Take that bone out of your nose and call me back(to an African American female calle

Re: Birthers insanity explained - McCain was born in Panama btw.

2009-10-18 Thread Scott Stroz
The comment about McNabb was more of a slam against the media than McNabb, and far from a racial comment. The only way I see the second comment would be racist is if you assume only blacks are in gangs. This comment was more directed at how the NFL runs its operation rather than those who play i

Re: Birthers insanity explained - McCain was born in Panama btw.

2009-10-18 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Lets see as a ESPN commentator Rush Limbaugh said that Philadelphia Eagles quarterback Donovan McNabb was overrated because the media wanted to see a black quarterback do well. Also to quote Limbaugh "Look it, let me put it to you this way. The NFL all too often looks like a game between the Bloo

Re: Birthers insanity explained - McCain was born in Panama btw.

2009-10-18 Thread Scott Stroz
Funny, there goes the whole 'well the other guys do it' argument. I love that one, really puts a smile on my face. And in my own, admittedly limited, experience, I have found that black people living in public housing want to kill white paramedics (and that is based on more than just my dealings

Re: Birthers insanity explained - McCain was born in Panama btw.

2009-10-18 Thread Scott Stroz
See, I would have had no issues if the argument against Rush owning a team was 'well, he is a douche bag' On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 1:28 AM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > Limbaugh admitted to telling a black listener to "Take that bone out > of your nose and call me back" and saying "Have you ever noti

Re: Birthers insanity explained - McCain was born in Panama btw.

2009-10-17 Thread Judah McAuley
Limbaugh admitted to telling a black listener to "Take that bone out of your nose and call me back" and saying "Have you ever noticed how all composite pictures of wanted criminals resemble Jesse Jackson?" as well as (more specific to the NFL) "Look, let me put it to you this way: the NFL all too

Re: Birthers insanity explained - McCain was born in Panama btw.

2009-10-17 Thread Sam
I challenge you to prove in any way Rush is racists. The current NFL scam was a fraud pointing back to Obama administration. What Rush said on ESPN years ago was not racist no matter how you try to spin it. I find that people throwing the racist label around are often the ones that cross the stre

Re: Birthers insanity explained - McCain was born in Panama btw.

2009-10-17 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Correction, I paint no more of a wide brush than Sam or others. That said, one thing I wam willing to admit and unlike those others, I am very willing to admit when I'm wrong, or when the data dictates other than what I think. In my own admittedly limited experience, I've found that when you scra

Re: Birthers insanity explained - McCain was born in Panama btw.

2009-10-17 Thread Sam
You can't be that ignant to think people believe this rubbish? Hmmm, then again I always used to say if you question a lefty long enough you'll find anti-semitism. Maybe you're right. I don't know any birthers so I can't do my own study :) On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 1:12 PM, Gruss Gott wrote: >

Re: Birthers insanity explained - McCain was born in Panama btw.

2009-10-17 Thread Sam
For eight years GG was screaming the only purpose of the media was to challenge the president and the government. Now, you're racist if you challenge anything Obama. Convenient that black thing isn't it :) On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 10:55 AM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > So, is it questioning anyone on

Re: Birthers insanity explained - McCain was born in Panama btw.

2009-10-17 Thread Sam
So what do you make of the folks that filed law suits against McCain? On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 10:45 AM, Jerry Johnson wrote: > > I actually don't think it is racist, so much as "not like me"ist > > I think if he had a heavy Spanish accent, heck, a heavy French accent, the > same would hold true

Re: Birthers insanity explained - McCain was born in Panama btw.

2009-10-17 Thread Sam
Wrong party. Nazi and Clansmen are Dems. On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 10:22 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > You have to be kidding. Senator McCain has one of the highest scores > from the Conservative Union - having voted over 98% on pro > conservative issues. > > If he's thought as Democrat Lite, I'd

Re: Birthers insanity explained - McCain was born in Panama btw.

2009-10-17 Thread Scott Stroz
Sadly, while I may try to see the best in people, I tend to see the worst in people. Almost 20 years of slinging bodies around the streets on NJ can do that to a fella. I never said that none of the birthers are racist, but I don't think they all are. I just find it funny that it seems OK for yo

Re: Birthers insanity explained - McCain was born in Panama btw.

2009-10-17 Thread Scott Stroz
Wow...you talked to a whole 30 people. That is quite a sampling. On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 4:12 PM, Gruss Gott wrote: > >> Scott wrote: >> Nice backpedal Gruss. > > Well here's my experience. > > I just happen to have discussed this with, eh, maybe 30 of these > birther people, and to a person the

Re: Birthers insanity explained - McCain was born in Panama btw.

2009-10-17 Thread Gruss Gott
> Scott wrote: > Nice backpedal Gruss. Well here's my experience. I just happen to have discussed this with, eh, maybe 30 of these birther people, and to a person they get all worked up and eventually they call Obama a monkey or a nigger or they say the blackhouse or say that Michelle Obama is a

Re: Birthers insanity explained - McCain was born in Panama btw.

2009-10-17 Thread Dana
yeah. What he said. > It wasn't like Democrats in Congress were questioning McCain's > standing to be President and initiated a partisan attack on him. Quite > the contrary, they deemed the legal issue to be obscure and totally > useless and therefore put forth a resolution saying that they all

Re: Birthers insanity explained - McCain was born in Panama btw.

2009-10-17 Thread Dana
how is he hiding it? do you want him to hand it around so each one of these nutjobs can feel the raised seal? On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 8:53 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > I can't think of another Democrat, or Republican, who has gone to such > lengths to hide his birth certificate. > > Following you

Re: Birthers insanity explained - McCain was born in Panama btw.

2009-10-17 Thread Michael Grant
Well, with Bush we questioned his legitimacy as a human, not as a citizen. On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 1:55 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > So, is it questioning anyone on whether they are a citizen that is > racist? Or is it only if you question the president? Or maybe only > this president? > > Nice b

Re: Birthers insanity explained - McCain was born in Panama btw.

2009-10-17 Thread Scott Stroz
So, is it questioning anyone on whether they are a citizen that is racist? Or is it only if you question the president? Or maybe only this president? Nice backpedal Gruss. You claimed they were racist because they are trying to 'de-legitimize' the president. A very good argument can be made that

Re: Birthers insanity explained - McCain was born in Panama btw.

2009-10-17 Thread Jerry Johnson
I actually don't think it is racist, so much as "not like me"ist I think if he had a heavy Spanish accent, heck, a heavy French accent, the same would hold true. If he were a Morman, again, true. If he were single, I think he would be having similar problems. Or gay. So on Obama's case, I bel

Re: Birthers insanity explained - McCain was born in Panama btw.

2009-10-17 Thread Larry C. Lyons
You have to be kidding. Senator McCain has one of the highest scores from the Conservative Union - having voted over 98% on pro conservative issues. If he's thought as Democrat Lite, I'd hate to see what the right wing would be, Nazi regalia underneath Klan robes? On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 9:19 PM

Re: Birthers insanity explained - McCain was born in Panama btw.

2009-10-17 Thread Vivec
That's my take on it too. And it's what I think of when they are interviewed and say they have to "take back THEIR country". Sad stuff. 2009/10/17 Larry C. Lyons : > > I'm simply not sure about that. It seems to me that the birther issues > are a veneer overlying the racism.  I think that if Oba

Re: Birthers insanity explained - McCain was born in Panama btw.

2009-10-17 Thread Larry C. Lyons
I'm simply not sure about that. It seems to me that the birther issues are a veneer overlying the racism. I think that if Obama was white but had the exact same background, the same accusations would not exist. Its only because he is black that you're getting such hysterics on the extreme right w

Re: Birthers insanity explained - McCain was born in Panama btw.

2009-10-17 Thread Larry C. Lyons
NO I just go for stupidity, veniality and plain incompetance. not just the shrubbery. On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 6:45 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > Based on your reasoning, Larry is racist because he tried/tries to > de-legitimize GW every chance he got. (Sorry, Larry, Gruss' > definition, not mine) >

Re: Birthers insanity explained - McCain was born in Panama btw.

2009-10-17 Thread Gruss Gott
> Scott wrote: > > Based on your reasoning, Larry is racist because he tried/tries to > de-legitimize GW every chance he got. So Larry made the claim that GW was not a US citizen? Larry - did you claim that GW was not a US citizen? Did you ask for GW to prove that he met the requirements to be

Re: Birthers insanity explained - McCain was born in Panama btw.

2009-10-17 Thread Michael Grant
> > Obama claimed he was born in two different hospitals, hard to take him > seriously. > I think it's pretty clear to see the Obama is a Kenyan robot programmed to destroy the US. ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with

Re: Birthers insanity explained - McCain was born in Panama btw.

2009-10-16 Thread Sam
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 9:35 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > I might also point out that that particular resolution was introduced > by Claire McCaskil (a Democrat) and was cosponsored by Hillary Clinton > and Barack Obama (who were both still competing for the Democratic > nomination in April 2008)

Re: Birthers insanity explained - McCain was born in Panama btw.

2009-10-16 Thread Judah McAuley
I might also point out that that particular resolution was introduced by Claire McCaskil (a Democrat) and was cosponsored by Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama (who were both still competing for the Democratic nomination in April 2008). It wasn't like Democrats in Congress were questioning McCain's

Re: Birthers insanity explained - McCain was born in Panama btw.

2009-10-16 Thread Judah McAuley
Out of curiosity, where do you see that John McCain had an investigation by Congress? The Senate passed a non-binding resolution (which has absolutely 0 credibility as far as Constitutional requirements goes) but I've yet to see anything that says anyone in the Senate did any investigation. They j

Re: Birthers insanity explained - McCain was born in Panama btw.

2009-10-16 Thread Scott Stroz
I can't think of another Democrat, or Republican, who has gone to such lengths to hide his birth certificate. Following your, and Gruss', logic because some birthers are racist, they must all be racist. Its a wonder you can hold that wide brush you are painting with. On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 8:5

Re: Birthers insanity explained - McCain was born in Panama btw.

2009-10-16 Thread Sam
I thought you were out of politics? On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 1:30 PM, Maureen wrote: > > Whether or not it is racism depends entirely on the motive of those > behind this movement.  At least in part, these "birthers" are being > funded by white supremacist organizations - so in those cases, it >

Re: Birthers insanity explained - McCain was born in Panama btw.

2009-10-16 Thread Sam
McCain had a congressional investigation. Are they racist against whites? They are not de-legitimizing the president. He is by not providing constitutionally required proof. It would take one phone call to end it, instead he spent over $1 million to hide it. On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 3:34 PM, Gr

Re: Birthers insanity explained - McCain was born in Panama btw.

2009-10-16 Thread denstar
Yeah, the real problem is always ideas. Things like race or ethnicity or eye color... bwahahaha. Yeah, right. Different... Same... Different... Same... It's all a game. -- Fame! On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 7:19 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > Another link for you: > > Gary Kreep To File 9 New Birthe

Re: Birthers insanity explained - McCain was born in Panama btw.

2009-10-16 Thread Jerry Barnes
Another link for you: Gary Kreep To File 9 New Birther Lawsuits The site does not give many details. Nice name. By the way, on the racism charge: Some of the birthers are surely racists but that doesn't make them all racist. I think most are just anti-D

Re: Birthers insanity explained - McCain was born in Panama btw.

2009-10-16 Thread Dana
well I can't think of another Democrat who's been asked for a birth certificate, But I am sure you have some examples to back that up, right? On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 6:49 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > I think the obsession with his birth certificate is ludicrous. I > personally think it is more ba

Re: Birthers insanity explained - McCain was born in Panama btw.

2009-10-16 Thread Scott Stroz
Let me correct that...the point about GW was that he was a stupid Republican. On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 8:46 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > No, they key point about GW was that he is a stupid man. > > The key point about Obama is not that he is a black man. > > On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 7:51 PM, Dana wro

Re: Birthers insanity explained - McCain was born in Panama btw.

2009-10-16 Thread Scott Stroz
I think the obsession with his birth certificate is ludicrous. I personally think it is more based on the fact that he is a Democrat than the fact he is black. On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 2:14 PM, Dana wrote: > > ok. You think it's irrational malice towards democrats? What? Just calling > something

Re: Birthers insanity explained - McCain was born in Panama btw.

2009-10-16 Thread Scott Stroz
No, they key point about GW was that he is a stupid man. The key point about Obama is not that he is a black man. On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 7:51 PM, Dana wrote: > > because the key point about GW is not that he is a white man. It's that he > is a STUPID white man. > > On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 4:45

Re: Birthers insanity explained - McCain was born in Panama btw.

2009-10-16 Thread Dana
ok. You think it's irrational malice towards democrats? What? Just calling something "ludicous" is not a refutation. On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 12:00 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > I will buy 'irrational malice'. But giving it a label of 'racism' is > ludicrous. > > On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 1:52 PM, Da

Re: Birthers insanity explained - McCain was born in Panama btw.

2009-10-16 Thread Dana
because the key point about GW is not that he is a white man. It's that he is a STUPID white man. On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 4:45 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > Based on your reasoning, Larry is racist because he tried/tries to > de-legitimize GW every chance he got. (Sorry, Larry, Gruss' > definition

Re: Birthers insanity explained - McCain was born in Panama btw.

2009-10-16 Thread Scott Stroz
Based on your reasoning, Larry is racist because he tried/tries to de-legitimize GW every chance he got. (Sorry, Larry, Gruss' definition, not mine) If Obama as Republican we would not be talking about this either. I find it interesting that with all the differences between McCain and Obama, you

Re: Birthers insanity explained - McCain was born in Panama btw.

2009-10-16 Thread Gruss Gott
> Scott wrote: > > Racism is 'discriminatory or abusive behavior towards members of > another race '. I would not categorize the birthers behavior as > discriminatory nor abusive. > Trying to de-legitimize a US president is a proxy for racism. Do you really believe that if it was McCain - who wa

Re: Birthers insanity explained - McCain was born in Panama btw.

2009-10-16 Thread Maureen
Whether or not it is racism depends entirely on the motive of those behind this movement. At least in part, these "birthers" are being funded by white supremacist organizations - so in those cases, it would indeed be racism. On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 11:00 AM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > I will buy 'i

Re: Birthers insanity explained - McCain was born in Panama btw.

2009-10-16 Thread Scott Stroz
Racism is 'discriminatory or abusive behavior towards members of another race '. I would not categorize the birthers behavior as discriminatory nor abusive. I'll buy your 'right wing conspiracy nut job' label, but, again, not racism. On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 2:32 PM, Gruss Gott wrote: > >> Scott

Re: Birthers insanity explained - McCain was born in Panama btw.

2009-10-16 Thread Gruss Gott
> Scott wrote: > > I will buy 'irrational malice'. But giving it a label of 'racism' is > ludicrous. > It's an alliance between Tim McVeighs and David Dukes: reactionary righties and racists. And this isn't questioning the President's policies, it's an attempt to outright de-legitimize him. An

Re: Birthers insanity explained - McCain was born in Panama btw.

2009-10-16 Thread Gruss Gott
> Vivvy wrote: > > It says you are a malformed video id. > 0_0 > > 2009/10/16 Gruss Gott : >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRENoPisFY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRENoPisFYk forgot the k ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion

Re: Birthers insanity explained - McCain was born in Panama btw.

2009-10-16 Thread Scott Stroz
Good point Michael. On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 1:53 PM, Michael Grant wrote: > > It *IS* change. Before (2000-2008) if you questioned the president you were > unpatriotic. Now it's racist. Next president will just label anyone that > questions him a pedophile. > > > > On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 1:43 P

Re: Birthers insanity explained - McCain was born in Panama btw.

2009-10-16 Thread Scott Stroz
I will buy 'irrational malice'. But giving it a label of 'racism' is ludicrous. On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 1:52 PM, Dana wrote: > > it's irrational malice. Explain it some other way if you can. > > On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 11:43 AM, Scott Stroz wrote: > >> >> Wait..I get it..its racist because its

Re: Birthers insanity explained - McCain was born in Panama btw.

2009-10-16 Thread Michael Grant
It *IS* change. Before (2000-2008) if you questioned the president you were unpatriotic. Now it's racist. Next president will just label anyone that questions him a pedophile. On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 1:43 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > Wait..I get it..its racist because its abotu Obama. > > I for

Re: Birthers insanity explained - McCain was born in Panama btw.

2009-10-16 Thread Dana
it's irrational malice. Explain it some other way if you can. On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 11:43 AM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > Wait..I get it..its racist because its abotu Obama. > > I forgot that part of the 'change' we were promised was that you can > no longer question the president without being ca

Re: Birthers insanity explained - McCain was born in Panama btw.

2009-10-16 Thread Scott Stroz
Wait..I get it..its racist because its abotu Obama. I forgot that part of the 'change' we were promised was that you can no longer question the president without being called a racist. That there is some great 'change' On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 1:41 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > Please explain to me

Re: Birthers insanity explained - McCain was born in Panama btw.

2009-10-16 Thread Scott Stroz
Please explain to me how its racist. I will give you ridiculous, I will give you stupid. But I fail to see how its racist. On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 12:53 PM, Gruss Gott wrote: > >> Denny wrote: >> >> The money that was spent on that sign should have gone to NASA. >> >> I'm deeply saddened. > > T

Re: Birthers insanity explained - McCain was born in Panama btw.

2009-10-16 Thread Vivec
It says you are a malformed video id. 0_0 2009/10/16 Gruss Gott : > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRENoPisFY ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing li

Re: Birthers insanity explained - McCain was born in Panama btw.

2009-10-16 Thread G Money
Are you an idiot if you can't FIND those guys...? "The URL contained a malformed video ID" On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 12:31 PM, Gruss Gott wrote: > > New rule: you're an idiot if you don't love these guys: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRENoPisFY > > ~~~

Re: Birthers insanity explained - McCain was born in Panama btw.

2009-10-16 Thread Gruss Gott
> gg wrote: >> They are not men.  The are devo. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWmf7r_37eA > New rule: you're an idiot if you don't love these guys: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRENoPisFY ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion

Re: Birthers insanity explained - McCain was born in Panama btw.

2009-10-16 Thread Gruss Gott
> Grant wrote: > >> >> But it's also logically ridiculous. >> > Screw you cracker! > Hey bro, I'm down with brown. ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing

Re: Birthers insanity explained - McCain was born in Panama btw.

2009-10-16 Thread Michael Grant
> > But it's also logically ridiculous. > Screw you cracker! ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/c

Re: Birthers insanity explained - McCain was born in Panama btw.

2009-10-16 Thread Gruss Gott
> gg wrote: > So the only explanation that I can come up with for someone to spend > money on something like this is devolution. > > They are not men.  The are devo. > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWmf7r_37e ~| Want to reach t

Re: Birthers insanity explained - McCain was born in Panama btw.

2009-10-16 Thread Gruss Gott
> Denny wrote: > > The money that was spent on that sign should have gone to NASA. > > I'm deeply saddened. That's the thing: somebody was actually stupid enough to spend money on this. It's such an utterly brainless concept that it can only be racism. I get racism - it's a eons old psychology

Re: Birthers insanity explained - McCain was born in Panama btw.

2009-10-16 Thread denstar
The money that was spent on that sign should have gone to NASA. I'm deeply saddened. -- Anyone who speaks in the name of others is always an imposter. Emile M. Cioran On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 5:06 AM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > ... > New 'brith certificate' billboard erected in Florida: >

Re: Birthers insanity explained - McCain was born in Panama btw.

2009-10-15 Thread Jerry Barnes
Thought everyone might get a kick out of these, regardless of whichever side you fall. New 'brith certificate' billboard erected in Florida: http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=112765 An article from a Kenyan Newspaper from 2004 mentioning 0bamab being born in Kenya: http://web.arc

Re: Birthers insanity explained - McCain was born in Panama btw.

2009-10-10 Thread Dana
Being a british subject simply means that you are a citizen of a country whose head of state is the queen of England. It does not give you British citizenship nor does it give Britain any say in the citizenship matters of your country since her status is purely ceremonial. On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at

Re: Birthers insanity explained - McCain was born in Panama btw.

2009-10-10 Thread Dana
No. You can be a british subject until you are blue in the face, but this does not make you a british citizen nor does it give the british anything at all to do with your citizenship. On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 7:56 PM, Sam wrote: > > No Shit Sherlock :) > Obama himself claimed to be a British Subj

Re: Birthers insanity explained - McCain was born in Panama btw.

2009-10-09 Thread denstar
On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 11:00 AM, Sam wrote: > > There's going to be a time in your life when you can't defend Obama by > blaming Bush. > Actually I think that time passed. I wasn't defending Obama, I was observing how much Bush 43 sucked. His whole administration sucked donkey balls, truth be to

Re: Birthers insanity explained - McCain was born in Panama btw.

2009-10-08 Thread Sam
I got that from The One :) On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 7:29 AM, Michael Grant wrote: > >> >> Only one state out of 57 plus states certified Obama as president. > > > 57 plus states? > *scratches head* > Christ Sam, you don't even know how many bloody states your country has? > ~~

Re: Birthers insanity explained - McCain was born in Panama btw.

2009-10-08 Thread Michael Grant
> > Only one state out of 57 plus states certified Obama as president. 57 plus states? *scratches head* Christ Sam, you don't even know how many bloody states your country has? ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with so

Re: Birthers insanity explained - McCain was born in Panama btw.

2009-10-08 Thread Michael Grant
Obama could speak when he was born? He truly *IS* amazing On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 9:56 PM, Sam wrote: > > No Shit Sherlock :) > Obama himself claimed to be a British Subject when he was born, not a > British Citizen. > Being a British Subject his citizenship was governed by Britain. > > > On

Re: Birthers insanity explained - McCain was born in Panama btw.

2009-10-07 Thread Gruss Gott
> Sam wrote: > > He's shockingly wrong, since Obama claimed he was born in two > different hospitals and neither was on a reservation. > Mmm ... nope, he's right: Bama was born in an Indian reservation in the middle of natural park. The trick is that because his mom was from *west* Kansas and NO

Re: Birthers insanity explained - McCain was born in Panama btw.

2009-10-07 Thread Sam
He's shockingly wrong, since Obama claimed he was born in two different hospitals and neither was on a reservation. On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 8:55 PM, Gruss Gott wrote: > >> Sam wrote: >> Now you're calling him a liar? >> > > I'm just reporting what I hear are the facts. > > I heard them from this

Re: Birthers insanity explained - McCain was born in Panama btw.

2009-10-07 Thread Gruss Gott
> Sam wrote: > Now you're calling him a liar? > I'm just reporting what I hear are the facts. I heard them from this guy: http://tinyurl.com/y8o9tbu He's a presidential birth record scholar, a tellicherry pepper sorter, and a neonatologist. So he'd know. ~~

Re: Birthers insanity explained - McCain was born in Panama btw.

2009-10-07 Thread Sam
Now you're calling him a liar? On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 6:30 PM, Gruss Gott wrote: > >> Sam wrote: >> Are you calling Obama a liar? >> > > Obama was actually born on an Indian reservation in Hawaii.  Which > just happened to be in the middle of a national park. > > Not so odd. > > really. > > When

Re: Birthers insanity explained - McCain was born in Panama btw.

2009-10-07 Thread Sam
Flaunting ignorance is not your best feature :P On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 5:23 PM, Rick Root wrote: > > The fact that Kenya considered Barack Obama to be a citizen of Kenya, > or that the U.K. considered him to be a citizen of the U.K., is not > relevant to his citizenship status as a United States

Re: Birthers insanity explained - McCain was born in Panama btw.

2009-10-07 Thread Sam
No Shit Sherlock :) Obama himself claimed to be a British Subject when he was born, not a British Citizen. Being a British Subject his citizenship was governed by Britain. On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 5:16 PM, Dana wrote: > > no. Just telling you. > > A "British subject whose citizenship status was g

Re: Birthers insanity explained - McCain was born in Panama btw.

2009-10-07 Thread Gruss Gott
> Sam wrote: > Are you calling Obama a liar? > Obama was actually born on an Indian reservation in Hawaii. Which just happened to be in the middle of a national park. Not so odd. really. When you think about it. ~| Want to r

Re: Birthers insanity explained - McCain was born in Panama btw.

2009-10-07 Thread Rick Root
The fact that Kenya considered Barack Obama to be a citizen of Kenya, or that the U.K. considered him to be a citizen of the U.K., is not relevant to his citizenship status as a United States Citizen. The U.S. government does not care, unless you become a citizen of a country that requires you to

Re: Birthers insanity explained - McCain was born in Panama btw.

2009-10-07 Thread Dana
no. Just telling you. A "British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948" is *NOT* a British citizen. On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 5:11 PM, Sam wrote: > > Are you calling Obama a liar? > > http://fightthesmears.com/articles/5/birthcertificate > >“When

Re: Birthers insanity explained - McCain was born in Panama btw.

2009-10-07 Thread Sam
Are you calling Obama a liar? http://fightthesmears.com/articles/5/birthcertificate “When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose c

Re: Birthers insanity explained - McCain was born in Panama btw.

2009-10-07 Thread Dana
well that says all *I* need to hear. On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 3:35 PM, Sam wrote: > > yep > > On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Dana wrote: > > > > um no. Did are you really going to argue with me about my own > citizenship? > > > > On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 12:42 PM, Sam wrote: > > > >> > >> Before

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