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From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 2:18 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Interesting piece on Romney's Campaign event masquerading as
storm relief
Love these folks:
http://www.facebook.com/Nyc2012MarathonOfRelief
If the city refuses to canc
Love these folks:
http://www.facebook.com/Nyc2012MarathonOfRelief
If the city refuses to cancel or postpone the marathon, despite an
entire list of reasons why now isnt the time, its up to us to use
the marathon as an opportunity to bring much needed relief and
continued visibility to various
A friends wife:
We have extended the donation drive! Tomorrow as well 11-3 at McCanns in
Massapequa 5590 Merrick Road thank you!!! Please copy and re-post to help
those in need right now. Dry food, canned food, cloths, blankets , bottled
waterIt's about helping another person in need right no
Oh and by the way there are very open public calls for food and other
donations being made, I've linked stories on my FB and have personal ties
to the area.
Food, fuel, blankets and medical supplies are being sought out.
Why is it that we see the same thing over and over again?
Under reporting
"Didn't Bloomberg outlaw donations to soup kitchens for that asinine
reason?"
No. He outlawed soup kitchens. It's because the salt content might have
been too high in what was served. That is not a joke.
"They had the number to text donations to the red cross all over the place.
Just because
"How on earth can you justify attacking a man for helping out?"
Desperate times call for desperate measures.
J
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With current ROEs even armed and not presenting a threat I'd probably go to
jail.
This was a big problem in Iraq where the right to have an AK is firm, and
one that I support and was needed when you consider the killings and rapes
and thefts that were and are going on all the time.
RPGs, crew se
Unarmed, lack of threat or uniform?
I'd have gone to prison for killing someone like that as a soldier.
On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 1:48 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote:
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> OK a bit more of a clarification then, people getting bombed, 3 miles
> behind the front line. They are not carrying side arms or ri
OK a bit more of a clarification then, people getting bombed, 3 miles
behind the front line. They are not carrying side arms or rifles. One
of them happens to be an American citizen serving with them. What is
the difference?
On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 1:43 PM, LRS Scout wrote:
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> His dad made that
His dad made that clear, not the kid. I would have the same problem if
this were done through direct fire. The kid was targeted based on
"patterns" in a "profile" attack. Not evidence.
There is no evidence that he himself had been active as a bad guy. The kid
didn't say he was at war with th
At the same time in all honesty what is the difference between taking
the kid out with a missile and having a sniper do the same in a
conflict zone? They had already made it clear they were at war with
the United States, the US was just returning the favour.
On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 12:45 PM, LRS S
I'm complaining about the general state of the republic. Things are
generally pretty fucked up man.
The first email provided the complaints, granted without sources, but
easily verifiable. I've stayed away from the more farfetched conspiracy
theory ideas.
If you don't see the republic is in di
I stand by what I said, Your initial bulleted list was, for the most part,
very general. The links you provided do, indeed, speak to specific items in
the list, but the fact still remains, the list you posted is still chock
full of generalities.
On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 12:45 PM, LRS Scout wrote
::crickets::
On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 12:45 PM, LRS Scout wrote:
> I'm pretty generally against the idea that the government can just whack
> you without due process, can search you without a warrant, detain you
> without a trial, and take your shit without a conviction.
>
> On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 a
I'm pretty generally against the idea that the government can just whack
you without due process, can search you without a warrant, detain you
without a trial, and take your shit without a conviction.
On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 8:17 AM, Scott Stroz wrote:
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> I saw a list of general accusations, wi
I haven't let any ground go.
The last couple of statements were provocative, intentionally so.
On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 8:38 AM, Sam wrote:
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> He insults you and you apologize? Stand your ground man.
>
> .
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 2:44 AM, LRS Scout wrote:
> >
> > You are correct.
> >
> >
Very few specifics?
Ok let's try this then:
- The murder of a 16 year old American citizen without due process-
http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/abdulrahman-al-awlaki-death-10470891
- Gen. Ham - (still a "rumor" but it's got legs)
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2012/10/has_general_ham_
I'm with you on the copyright police state.
The figures and statistics don't prove the claim of copyright holders at
all and justifications for these draconian measures.
In fact they show the opposite.
On 2 November 2012 09:43, Jerry Milo Johnson wrote:
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> I wasn't offended, I was disappointe
And, btw, I wasn't calling YOUR email "bat-shit crazy rantings". I was
comparing you to the guy who lives downstairs in my building, who no
one let their kids visit on Halloween the other night for
trick-or-treat.
Don't become that guy.
On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 8:17 AM, Scott Stroz wrote:
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> I s
I wasn't offended, I was disappointed.
You had a 120 line email going, with great jabs on each one. Pow. Pow. Pow.
I was feeling it. Literally nodding my head. It was a great list.
And then I get to those last 2 lines, and *scrch*. I lost that
loving feeling.
But, for what it is worth,
He insults you and you apologize? Stand your ground man.
.
On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 2:44 AM, LRS Scout wrote:
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> You are correct.
>
> I'm just very frustrated. I know the sky isn't falling. I know that the
> world isn't going to end tomorrow.
>
> I also know that things are far worse in many
I saw a list of general accusations, with very few specifics.
On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 2:16 AM, LRS Scout wrote:
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> On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 1:54 AM, Jerry Milo Johnson
> wrote:
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> >
> > bat-shit crazy rantings
> >
>
> And there we have it.
>
> Bat shit crazy rantings. You see a list of those
You are correct.
I'm just very frustrated. I know the sky isn't falling. I know that the
world isn't going to end tomorrow.
I also know that things are far worse in many ways than they have ever been
in our country before.
I'm sorry Jerry if I offended you that is truly not my intent, and I'm
I do not question that your complaints are true.
However, I question your assumption that none of us are aware, that we do
not care, and that we have taken no action.
You alienate those who would be your allies by labeling them without
knowledge of what they know or do.
I have been at war with
On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 1:54 AM, Jerry Milo Johnson wrote:
>
> bat-shit crazy rantings
>
And there we have it.
Bat shit crazy rantings. You see a list of those abuses and you don't
rightly say, wow, things are messed up, we need to fix them. We need to
have a line in the sand and say this far
Do you have any idea what I was paraphrasing there?
On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 1:54 AM, Jerry Milo Johnson wrote:
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> Unfortunately for me it is statements like this that move us from reasoned
> discourse towards bat-shit crazy rantings of the guy in that house no one
> will let their kids trick-or
Unfortunately for me it is statements like this that move us from reasoned
discourse towards bat-shit crazy rantings of the guy in that house no one
will let their kids trick-or-treat at.
On Friday, November 2, 2012, LRS Scout wrote:
>
> ...
> I just hope we can avoid being enemies in war
Yes it's a photo op, but a ton more people are going to show up with good
to donate just to see him, and say they did it with him.
It's a trade off.
Both sides are guilty of similar tactics and in this election the
complaints I'm seeing all of you making are astonishing to me. While 16
year old
yeah god knows there was a screaming need for toilet paper in Arlington
::eyeroll:: He did it some more after that, someplace else in Virginia. The
visuals were good, you know.
On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 9:33 PM, Maureen wrote:
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> If he had written a check, those people in Arlington, VA wouldn't h
If he had written a check, those people in Arlington, VA wouldn't have had
their 18 rolls of toilet paper. Oh, the humanity.
On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 9:25 PM, Dana wrote:
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> ok... if he was actually trying to help why not just write a check? Collect
> cash donations? Becuause it wouldn't provid
ok... if he was actually trying to help why not just write a check? Collect
cash donations? Becuause it wouldn't provide the visuals of the candidate
stacking Campbell's soup is why.
On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 6:57 AM, GMoney wrote:
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> im with sam on this one. Yeah, it's a facade and done for publ
I'd like to see that.
On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 8:29 AM, GMoney wrote:
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> All candidates do this kind of thing. Do you really think Candidate Obama
> didn't do this same stuff in 2008?? I'm sure if we combed the 2008
> campaign, we'd find all sort of similar superficiality from both McCain and
>
Ignore me. Didn't realize there was 378 responses after the one I replied
to ... my eyes got blurry.
On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 11:40 PM, Erika L. Rich wrote:
> A lot of churches of different denominations (Baptist, Methodist,
> Catholic, Presbyterian) ask that you donate 10% of your earnings ... a
A lot of churches of different denominations (Baptist, Methodist, Catholic,
Presbyterian) ask that you donate 10% of your earnings ... a tithe they
call it ...
I hear it from many around me, down here in good olde Georgia.
On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 4:11 PM, Scott Stroz wrote:
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> I think its grea
On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 9:44 PM, Maureen wrote:
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> In other words, the claims on that page are from the LDS PR machine, and
> therefore, questionable.
Questionable is your retort? Really? You don't have anything but
questionable? So Roneys a coldhearted cheap bastard because you find
another chu
On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 6:11 PM, Sam wrote:
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> On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 8:44 PM, Maureen wrote:
> >
> >
> > I'm not the one doing the redefining:
> >
> > 1.generous actions or donations to aid the poor, ill, or helpless: to
> > devote one's life to charity.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LDS_H
On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 8:44 PM, Maureen wrote:
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>
> I'm not the one doing the redefining:
>
> 1.generous actions or donations to aid the poor, ill, or helpless: to
> devote one's life to charity.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LDS_Humanitarian_Services
Tyler Charitable Foundation
http://www.biz
On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 5:30 PM, Sam wrote:
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> On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 7:26 PM, Maureen wrote:
> >
> > And of the organizations listed on that page, how many, other than United
> > Way, are charities?
>
> Now you want to redefine charity to fit your need to hate?
>
I'm not the one doing the red
On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 7:26 PM, Maureen wrote:
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> And of the organizations listed on that page, how many, other than United
> Way, are charities?
Now you want to redefine charity to fit your need to hate?
>> And this:
>> But the release of these tax records leaves no doubt about one thing:
>>
On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 3:09 PM, Sam wrote:
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> Try here
>
> http://www.forbes.com/sites/edwindurgy/2012/05/17/an-inside-look-at-the-millions-mitt-romney-has-given-away/
>
And of the organizations listed on that page, how many, other than United
Way, are charities?
>
>
> And this:
> But the rel
Ah, I see.
On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 2:49 PM, Sam wrote:
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> They are not in Staten Island
>
> .
>
> On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 5:32 PM, William Bowen wrote:
>>
>> The red cross isn't where?
>>
>>
>
>
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Try here
http://www.forbes.com/sites/edwindurgy/2012/05/17/an-inside-look-at-the-millions-mitt-romney-has-given-away/
And this:
But the release of these tax records leaves no doubt about one thing:
Mitt Romney is an extraordinarily, remarkably, astonishingly generous
man. A good man. Maybe even
Last year, in the middle of a presidential campaign.
If you average his giving over 10 years, it averages to approximate 13%,
with some of that going to the Romney controlled Tyler Foundation, and at a
minimum 10% paying his titles to the Mormon Church.
And I reiterate, the donations were to the
Is that an "E" ticket ride?
On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 2:50 PM, Maureen wrote:
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> It's called Tithes, and the Bible states you will be sent to hell if you
> don't pay them. So more like buying your Heaven ticket.
>
> On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 1:11 PM, Scott Stroz wrote:
>
>>
>> I think its great he
It's called Tithes, and the Bible states you will be sent to hell if you
don't pay them. So more like buying your Heaven ticket.
On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 1:11 PM, Scott Stroz wrote:
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> I think its great he has donated as much as he has to charity. One thing I
> think that gets overlooked, thoug
They are not in Staten Island
.
On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 5:32 PM, William Bowen wrote:
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> The red cross isn't where?
>
>
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The red cross isn't where?
On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 2:27 PM, Sam wrote:
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> I've worked a lot of soup kitchens, that really is a non issue. I can
> see it with loaves of bread or something easily tampered with but not
> canned items and most non-perishables.
>
> The fact that the Red Cross isn't
I've worked a lot of soup kitchens, that really is a non issue. I can
see it with loaves of bread or something easily tampered with but not
canned items and most non-perishables.
The fact that the Red Cross isn't even there makes the point moot.
.
On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 5:22 PM, William Bowen
Heh, according to the articles I found it has to do with the city not
being able to verify the salt, fat and fiber content of the foods that
are donated.
That's a fairly asinine reason...
As for the food tampering issue with regards specifically to the red
cross (the original point of my post),
Because restaurants that serve food and are certified by the health
department are now forced to throw away extra food and the homeless
can get it from the dumpster. Since there are no cases of food
tampering cans of food that are donated to charity I think it's
asinine.
.
On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at
Ughthat's awful.
On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 3:32 PM, Scott Stroz wrote:
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> We had friends who lived down the street from us who were Mormon. They were
> required to meet with the bishop for a 'tithing settlement' (I think that
> is what it was called). Cannot say for certain, but I think I re
dunno. Why would it be necessarily "asinine" if he did? Are the
reasons I gave below for /not/ accepting certain types of donations
somehow illogical?
On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 1:45 PM, Sam wrote:
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> Didn't Bloomberg outlaw donations to soup kitchens for that asinine reason?
>
> .
>
> On Thu, No
Didn't Bloomberg outlaw donations to soup kitchens for that asinine reason?
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On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 4:43 PM, William Bowen wrote:
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> Not to mention the logistics of getting that donated can of corn to a
> distribution center, vetting whether or not it has been tampered
> with/expired, etc.
>
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> Subject: Re: Interesting piece on Romney's Campaign event masquerading as
> storm relief
>
>
> They do, they just prefer cash, who doesn't.
>
> .
>
> On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 2:13 PM
And get larger salaries.
Wasn't Elizabeth Dole making a cool $million a year back in the day?
.
On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 4:35 PM, Eric Roberts
wrote:
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> They can better manages the resources that way. They have vendors they buy
> from that are equipped to package items in a more usable manner t
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LDS_Humanitarian_Services
Not from what I just read
.
On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 4:27 PM, J.J. Merrick wrote:
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> Actually if you are in "bad" standing you are excommunicated from the
> LDS church. Needless to say they do help people but it is usually
> people inside t
If you are hungry enough, anyone can open a can of
corn without a can opener.
Can, meet rock.
On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 4:35 PM, Eric Roberts <
ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote:
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> They can better manages the resources that way. They have vendors they buy
> from that are equipped to packa
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storm relief
They do, they just prefer cash, who doesn't.
.
On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 2:13 PM, Eric Roberts
wrote:
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> No...the red cross
We had friends who lived down the street from us who were Mormon. They were
required to meet with the bishop for a 'tithing settlement' (I think that
is what it was called). Cannot say for certain, but I think I recall
him telling me that they used to bring their tax documents with them as
'proof'
Did he give all of that to the church? I thought the 30% was the total of
all his donations.
On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 4:27 PM, LRS Scout wrote:
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> I'd like to point out he gave roughly 30%, 3 times the requirement.
> On Nov 1, 2012 4:21 PM, "Scott Stroz" wrote:
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> >
> > I cannot speak to wher
I'd like to point out he gave roughly 30%, 3 times the requirement.
On Nov 1, 2012 4:21 PM, "Scott Stroz" wrote:
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> I cannot speak to where the money goes, I only know that in order to be a
> member in good standing of the Mormon Church, you are required to make a
> tithe. Required. When you ar
Most Churches do ask for a tithe, Mormon Church, as far as I know, requires
it. No tithe, no soul saving.
Yes, it is a choice, but, again, how is it a 'donation' when you are
required to pay it? Doesn't that seem more like a 'membership fee'?
On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 4:24 PM, Sam wrote:
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> Yes
Actually if you are in "bad" standing you are excommunicated from the
LDS church. Needless to say they do help people but it is usually
people inside the church walls first. Very little of their money goes
to what we would say is honest helping the poor charitable work.
-J.J.
On Thu, Nov 1, 201
Wellwait a second here10% is the recommended threshold for tithing
in many churches...but if you don't give that much, you aren't booted out
of the church. In fact, I don't think there is any retribution.
So when you say "to be a member of the Mormon Church in good
standing"what happe
Yes but I thought all Churches asked for a tithe and not everybody
pays up. Don't forget it's choice to be a part of that group that
requires a charitable donation.
.
On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 4:20 PM, Scott Stroz wrote:
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> I cannot speak to where the money goes, I only know that in order to be
I cannot speak to where the money goes, I only know that in order to be a
member in good standing of the Mormon Church, you are required to make a
tithe. Required. When you are required to do give something, regardless of
what it is used for, its no longer a 'donation'.
BTW - I feel the same way
It goes to helping people, that's what churches do. He also gives a
lot more than 10% and spreads it out over many worthy causes.
.
On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 4:11 PM, Scott Stroz wrote:
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> I think its great he has donated as much as he has to charity. One thing I
> think that gets overlooked, tho
I think its great he has donated as much as he has to charity. One thing I
think that gets overlooked, though, is that to be a member of the Mormon
church you are required to give the church 10% (at least) of your earnings
every year. To me, that is not 'charity', its more like 'membership dues'
Wasn't there a huge scandal with donations to the Clinton Library
before he left office?
Romney donated millions to charity, only a true hater can pick that a
part to a few donations and find a way to make in dishonorable. Big
picture please. Are you saying he didn't donate to charities that help
Because they need to drive nice cars?
http://politicker.com/2012/11/staten-island-borough-president-dont-give-money-to-the-red-cross/
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On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 2:13 PM, Eric Roberts
wrote:
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> No...the red cross does not ask for non-perishables. They specifically have
> stated that they want m
Charitable giving is fine from either side. Donating to political causes
and claiming it is charity is not.
If Obama donated 100K to the Bill Clinton library and called it a
charitable donation, you'd be wailing like a banshee.
On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 12:38 PM, Sam wrote:
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> Ha
> Obviously cha
Ha
Obviously charitable giving from an R is never good enough for you lot.
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On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 2:44 PM, Maureen wrote:
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> Yeah, and a couple of other really needy organizations. Becket Fund for
> Religious Liberty which touts the "pray away the gay" therapy, and the The
> George W. Bush
He probably did. They're not saying how much of a personal donation her made
.
On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 2:15 PM, Eric Roberts
wrote:
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> He could have donated that 5,000 he spent at Walmart to the Red Cross and
> made a photo op of it that would have at least seemed less contrived and
> fake.
>
They do, they just prefer cash, who doesn't.
.
On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 2:13 PM, Eric Roberts
wrote:
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> No...the red cross does not ask for non-perishables. They specifically have
> stated that they want money or blood donations.
>
~~
Yeah, and a couple of other really needy organizations. Becket Fund for
Religious Liberty which touts the "pray away the gay" therapy, and the The
George W. Bush Library.
He gave a lot of money to non-profits, but very little to organizations
that could legitimately be referred to as charities.
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That's just
This went by on a Cleveland genealogy list
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/01/opinion/grover-clevelands-hurricane.html
There is nothing new under the sun.
On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 10:10 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote:
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> In both the Ryan case and the more recent Romney case, they were
> politicizing s
On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 10:10 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote:
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> In both the Ryan case and the more recent Romney case, they were
> politicizing something that should not have been politicized in the
> first place.
Actually, you're the one guilty of that.
> BTW about the food donations, the Red Cross
If you ever volunteered you wouldn't think it's a facade. Especially
knowing Romney has always donated way more to charity than Obama and
Biden combined.
It's sad to think you can't even offer to help without it becoming a
character attack.
.
On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 9:57 AM, GMoney wrote:
>
> i
In both the Ryan case and the more recent Romney case, they were
politicizing something that should not have been politicized in the
first place.
BTW about the food donations, the Red Cross had already asked that no
food be donated, only cash.
But speaking of ironies, Michael Brown (of Katrina f
im with sam on this one. Yeah, it's a facade and done for public sentiment
as much as public service, but so the F what? I can guarantee that your
favorite politician has done the same thing at one time or another.
Romney knew this storm put him at a disadvantage politically, since Obama
was the
That's just f'n stupid. You've never seen food drives? The Red Cross
does need non-perishable food donations. They ask for it. Also, Romney
also asked people to text money to the Red Cross. The left's politics
of hate is getting exhausting.
How on earth can you justify attacking a man for helping
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storm relief
Seems to me that would be a good thing. How can you interpret that as a bad
thing?
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On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 10:52 AM, Larry C. Lyons
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Nothing too surprising in there. Politics is about perception.
To that end, f
Ooops. He might have overplayed it:
http://news.yahoo.com/photos/u-president-obama-receives-ongoing-response-hurricane-sandy-photo-191257871.html
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On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 11:17 AM, GMoney wrote:
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> Nothing too surprising in there. Politics is about perception.
>
> To that end, from a purely
Seems to me that would be a good thing. How can you interpret that as
a bad thing?
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On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 10:52 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote:
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> http://www.buzzfeed.com/mckaycoppins/the-making-of-romneys-storm-relief-event
>
>
~~~
On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 11:29 AM, GMoney wrote:
> All candidates do this kind of thing. Do you really think Candidate Obama
> didn't do this same stuff in 2008?? I'm sure if we combed the 2008
> campaign, we'd find all sort of similar superficiality from both McCain and
> Obama.
>
>
Totally...
All candidates do this kind of thing. Do you really think Candidate Obama
didn't do this same stuff in 2008?? I'm sure if we combed the 2008
campaign, we'd find all sort of similar superficiality from both McCain and
Obama.
On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 10:25 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote:
>
> I guess its
On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 11:25 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote:
> Its makes me wonder if this is how they act during the campaign, can
> we in any way trust these people in office?
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When have we ever been able to truly trust our elected officials?
Hatton
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I guess its the superficiality that gets me, the going through the
motions for appearances sake. Same with the Ryan photo-op that
purportedly showed him and his wife washing dishes in a homeless
shelter:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/election-2012/wp/2012/10/13/reporters-barred-from-coverin
Nothing too surprising in there. Politics is about perception.
To that end, from a purely political standpoint, I think this storm is a
big boost to President Obama. It's a great chance for him to show
leadership, and remind everyone that he already IS the President. Plus, the
country rallies aro
http://www.buzzfeed.com/mckaycoppins/the-making-of-romneys-storm-relief-event
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