"As does Romney, Ron Paul, Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh and numerous others on the
right. It's not a left wing phenom, it's a media phenom and it happens on
both sides."
But you only mentioned the left being Godless. I thought it was assumed
that the right was not Godless.
J
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Ninety percent of
can't be banned. No reason to ban an inhaler. Possibly it's no longer formulary.
I am guessing it's something like this: I've been told I can't have
albuterol by need to have this other more expensive inhaler.
Apparently the rationale is that plain-vanilla albuterol is a little
stressful on the h
This has happened a few times, legislation has been proposed to make it
illegal. Doubtful that "many companies" are doing it. The PR aspect alone
would cause them severe problems.
On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 1:38 PM, Eric Roberts <
ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote:
>
> That is true...if you
That is true...if you are unemployed...many companies won't even consider
you...which should be illegal.
-Original Message-
From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 2:34 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Latest News on the The Affordable Car
Unfortunately, companies are still poaching employees. What's sad is
you have to have a job to get one.
.
On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 3:17 PM, Eric Roberts
wrote:
>
> When times are good and it's an employee's market...you are right. When
> there are 20 people waiting for your job...people are les
ty
Subject: Re: Latest News on the The Affordable Care Act
Companies renew plans each year. If you want to maintain the best employees,
you will make sure they are happy with your benefits.
Google offers free breakfast, lunch and dinner as an attempt to attract and
keep employees. Trust me, companies
Companies renew plans each year. If you want to maintain the best
employees, you will make sure they are happy with your benefits.
Google offers free breakfast, lunch and dinner as an attempt to
attract and keep employees. Trust me, companies that want to succeed
try hard to keep employees satisfi
lto:sammyc...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 10:50 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Latest News on the The Affordable Care Act
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 6:41 PM, Scott Stroz wrote:
>
> That is not what I am saying. I am saying that with publicly traded
> companies that offer he
As does Romney, Ron Paul, Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh and numerous others on
the right. It's not a left wing phenom, it's a media phenom and it happens
on both sides.
On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 6:29 AM, Jerry Barnes wrote:
>
> "I thought you just said lefties are godless."
>
> Just because someone
ed
up just going to the ER
-Original Message-
From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 10:45 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Latest News on the The Affordable Care Act
Actually it was done in 1989 and extended in 2008 to 2012. Another
extension, at least
I meant in terms of having a fairly comprehensive plan with good coverage
at relatively low cost.
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 7:23 PM, Maureen wrote:
>
> Actually, you aren't in the minority. 43 percent have insurance through
> their private employers versus 16 percent who are uninsured. 13 per
"I thought you just said lefties are godless."
Just because someone is godless doesn't mean they can't treat someone like
a God or Demigod.
Krugman and Obama both have followings that are full of religious zeal.
J
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Some years down the pike, were going to get the real solution, which is
goi
Actually it was done in 1989 and extended in 2008 to 2012. Another
extension, at least until 2015 when the new patents expire, would have
been a good thing. But affordable health care and saving lives
obviously isn't as important as the ozone these days. Obviously.
.
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 6:24
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 6:41 PM, Scott Stroz wrote:
>
> That is not what I am saying. I am saying that with publicly traded
> companies that offer health insurance, the interests of the shareholders
> will always trump the interests of the patients.
The shareholder is only happy when the company
Actually, you aren't in the minority. 43 percent have insurance through
their private employers versus 16 percent who are uninsured. 13 percent
have medicare, 13 percent are government employees at either the federal,
state or local levels, and 15 percent receive medicaid.
On Thu, Feb 14, 201
That is not what I am saying. I am saying that with publicly traded
companies that offer health insurance, the interests of the shareholders
will always trump the interests of the patients.
We have a great healthcare plan - other than having to call
Aetna several times a month because stuff was n
Which was done by the FDA with final approval in 2008, so it obviously has
absolutely nothing to do with AHCA.
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 2:32 PM, Sam wrote:
>
> Maybe it's this,
>
> http://blogs.wsj.com/health/2011/09/22/say-bye-bye-to-primatene-mist-at-least-in-its-current-form/
>
> I'll ask him
33 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Latest News on the The Affordable Care Act
Maybe it's this,
http://blogs.wsj.com/health/2011/09/22/say-bye-bye-to-primatene-mist-at-leas
t-in-its-current-form/
I'll ask him
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 5:28 PM, Maureen wrote:
&g
Refer back to Tim's statement about the difference in 10% profit and 250%
profit...
-Original Message-
From: GMoney [mailto:gm0n3...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 4:14 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Latest News on the The Affordable Care Act
I guess I am payin
I do...I tried this before I realized I had VA healthcare benefits...
-Original Message-
From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 4:27 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: RE: Latest News on the The Affordable Care Act
I thought you had VA benefits?
On Feb
gt;> I have both and talked to every insurance company I could find and none of
>> them would insure me.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:larrycly...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 3:16 PM
>> To: cf-communi
Maybe it's this,
http://blogs.wsj.com/health/2011/09/22/say-bye-bye-to-primatene-mist-at-least-in-its-current-form/
I'll ask him
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 5:28 PM, Maureen wrote:
>
> Define banned.
>
>
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On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 5:28 PM, Maureen wrote:
>
> I thought you just said lefties are godless.
I never said that.
> I also thought you said you didn't listen to Limbaugh, although everything
> you just posted is lifted almost intact from his rant about Krugman.
You listen to Limbaugh? I have
Define banned.
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 2:26 PM, Sam wrote:
>
> No, he's been using this certain type of inhaler for. It was banned
> last just year. And he was self employed and it was covered.
>
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I thought you just said lefties are godless.
I also thought you said you didn't listen to Limbaugh, although everything
you just posted is lifted almost intact from his rant about Krugman.
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 2:21 PM, Sam wrote:
>
> Paul Krugman. I think he's a god to lefties.
>
No, he's been using this certain type of inhaler for. It was banned
last just year. And he was self employed and it was covered.
.
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 5:20 PM, Eric Roberts
wrote:
>
> That is the problem with for profit healthcare...
>
~~
gt; Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 3:16 PM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: Latest News on the The Affordable Care Act
>
>
> Sam,
>
> I have type 1 diabetes. Before I was able to get that very expensive
> insurance I talked with 5 other companies. My wife talked with
y 14, 2013 3:16 PM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: Latest News on the The Affordable Care Act
>
>
> Sam,
>
> I have type 1 diabetes. Before I was able to get that very expensive
> insurance I talked with 5 other companies. My wife talked with a few more.
> Most outright refused
And I would guess you aren't unless your insurance carrier is indulging in
illegal price gouging. Even with pre-existing conditions covered, the cost
to the insurance companies to pay for that treatment versus the value of
the premiums they collect does not put any insurer in the red.
Additionall
Paul Krugman. I think he's a god to lefties.
.
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 5:17 PM, Maureen wrote:
>
> Who is they and what are "they" saying? Any valid news or just Sarah Palin
> and Michele Bachmann spreading lies again?
>
> On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 2:10 PM, Sam wrote:
>>
>> But now they're t
That is the problem with for profit healthcare...
-Original Message-
From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 3:28 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Latest News on the The Affordable Care Act
Unfortunately, a pre-existing condition like that is very
Not in this economy
-Original Message-
From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 3:18 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Latest News on the The Affordable Care Act
And then they start losing the good employees.
.
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 3:54 PM, Eric
I have both and talked to every insurance company I could find and none of
them would insure me.
-Original Message-
From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:larrycly...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 3:16 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Latest News on the The Affordable Care Act
Who is they and what are "they" saying? Any valid news or just Sarah Palin
and Michele Bachmann spreading lies again?
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 2:10 PM, Sam wrote:
>
> But now they're talking death panels again and he might get bumped.
>
~~~
I guess I am paying for that then.
Before, my insurance company refused people like Larry (apparently), and
offered me low premiums and high levels of coverage. Now they cover people
that will be very expensiveso they need to get money from somewhere
else.and that somewhere else is me.
I
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 4:39 PM, Maureen wrote:
>
> The Affordable Health Care Act requires the coverage of pre-existing
> conditions, so yes, it would help him.
But now they're talking death panels again and he might get bumped.
> There are no bans of any type of drug or procedure in the AHCA
The Affordable Health Care Act requires the coverage of pre-existing
conditions, so yes, it would help him.
There are no bans of any type of drug or procedure in the AHCA so if your
accountant's drugs were banned he needs to place the blame where it goes,
either on the FDA or the insurer, if it w
Unfortunately, a pre-existing condition like that is very expensive
and no insurance would willingly lose money on you. Your option would
be to get insurance through work and the insurance co's have no choice
but to pay. I'm not saying that's ideal but you have options. It would
be great if we fix
And then they start losing the good employees.
.
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 3:54 PM, Eric Roberts
wrote:
>
> Or they chose the cheapest provider they could find so that execs can
> maximize their bonuses...
>
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ry 14, 2013 2:53 PM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: Latest News on the The Affordable Care Act
>
>
> Or get your own insurance.
>
> .
>
> On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 3:52 PM, Sam wrote:
>> And that sucks if you work in the stick wh
Most people can't because of chronic illness.
-Original Message-
From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 2:53 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Latest News on the The Affordable Care Act
Or get your own insurance.
.
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 3:
on the The Affordable Care Act
And that sucks if you work in the stick where there's only one company
hiring. Otherwise change jobs.
.
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 3:36 PM, Eric Roberts
wrote:
>
> When a company is not answerable to it's customers...it is bad for
> everybody
What choice?
-Original Message-
From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 2:24 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: RE: Latest News on the The Affordable Care Act
The difference is choice.
On Feb 14, 2013 3:21 PM, "Eric Roberts"
wrote:
>
&g
"I like Monaco's plan. No personal income tax, extremely low business
tax (roughly
6% on income earned outside the country), a flat fee for social services
including medical care averages 20-40% contribution by the employer and
10-14% by the employee."
Then you better move to Monaco. There is n
Or they chose the cheapest provider they could find so that execs can
maximize their bonuses...
-Original Message-
From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 1:40 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Latest News on the The Affordable Care Act
I do, but unless
...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 1:35 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Latest News on the The Affordable Care Act
The med thing is a major problem to me. You somehow have to pay for the
research though. Tough issue.
I'm not going to accept a .ca address as an impartial ana
As you said earlier Tim...there is a difference between 10% profit and 250%
profit ;-)
-Original Message-
From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 1:35 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Latest News on the The Affordable Care Act
The med thing is a
Or get your own insurance.
.
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 3:52 PM, Sam wrote:
> And that sucks if you work in the stick where there's only one company
> hiring. Otherwise change jobs.
>
> .
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And that sucks if you work in the stick where there's only one company
hiring. Otherwise change jobs.
.
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 3:36 PM, Eric Roberts
wrote:
>
> When a company is not answerable to it's customers...it is bad for
> everybody. You don't have to option to choose another company if
"Insurance companies raised their rates to appease their shareholders"
No. They raise their rates because they can.
" and it is the ACA that is to blame?"
No. But ACA was supposed to make care affordable.
J
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Ninety percent of politicians give the other ten percent a bad reputation.
"But but...that would require Regulation! And regulation is bad."
I didn't say that. More than likely it would require deregulation (starting
from scrap) and then using common sense to make a better sense. Since it
requires common sense, it won't happen.
J
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Ninety percent of politicians give
Not everywhere Tim. You might be able to do that where you live...but that
does not apply everywhere.
-Original Message-
From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 12:52 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: RE: Latest News on the The Affordable Care Act
No
o: cf-community
Subject: RE: Latest News on the The Affordable Care Act
I'd argue, and from personal experience, that Canada's health care system is
not as good or as responsive as our own.
I have an idea, you want 100% health care. Bring back mandetory
conscription across the board.
e what, a population of 10 rich white guys?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Maureen [mailto:mamamaur...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 12:11 PM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: Latest News on the The Affordable Care Act
>
>
> I like Monaco's pl
--Original Message-
From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 12:15 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Latest News on the The Affordable Care Act
You sound like a socialist making profit a bad word.
A company that makes a profit is good for everyone. And if you as
industry and the moneyed interests in the Republican
>> party.
>> -Original Message-
>> From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 8:58 AM
>> To: cf-community
>> Subject: Re: Latest News on the The Affordable Care Ac
And they have what, a population of 10 rich white guys?
-Original Message-
From: Maureen [mailto:mamamaur...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 12:11 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Latest News on the The Affordable Care Act
I like Monaco's plan. No personal incom
Unless its a teaching hospital or affiliated with a med school,
typically the research done by private hospitals are drug related.
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 2:56 PM, Sam wrote:
>
> Don't private teaching hospitals do research?
>
> I heard Lexington KY is a hot bed of medical research because of al
That is a stupid comparison.
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 2:45 PM, Sam wrote:
>
> Maybe they don't have as many gangstas. We discussed the infant
> mortality numbers being slewed, what about violence? How many
> Canadians survive a hospital visit due to gang violence? Also
> remember, the Canadians b
e immediate issue. If you have a
>> chronic
>> >> >> illness and have no insurance, you are fucked. Not all areas have
>> >> charity
>> >> >> health care systems. People with money don't die because they can't
>> >> af
What regulation Tim? ACA has not been fully implemented yet...
-Original Message-
From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 11:40 AM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Latest News on the The Affordable Care Act
They raised their rates to cover additional
t .11
vents a pizza...it's all greed.
-Original Message-
From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 9:54 AM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Latest News on the The Affordable Care Act
Haha, nice accounting trick.
Once that law was signed many insurance
I said neither, just that the US is the largest innovator and the rest
of the world prospers from it.
.
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 3:21 PM, Eric Roberts
wrote:
>
> Innovations are not always motivated by greed. In the medical field, more
> often than not, they are either brought about by war or b
While most would like to see a better health care system and one that
provides for all, they do not want ObamaCare.
Something passed in the middle of the night behind locked doors that
you have to pass to read whats in it doesn't work.
.
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 3:20 PM, Eric Roberts
wrote:
>
>
nd propaganda
> from the insurance industry and the moneyed interests in the Republican
> party.
> -Original Message-
> From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 8:58 AM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: Latest News on the
on the The Affordable Care Act
If the US health care became like the Scandinavians, who would do the
medical innovations that they currently utilize?
.
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 9:30 AM, Vivec wrote:
>
> It's simplistic, but it's the truth.
>
> And no, it is not the same in m
AM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Latest News on the The Affordable Care Act
While your information is what the media and the left would have you
believe. Hospitals must treat you by law. Federally medicaid and medicare
cover millions, and states have additional prograns in many cases. We are
Education. Bachelors or trade school available (but not required) for
everyone. Agreed.
Term Limits. Agreed. And _very_ low pay.
Campaign Finance Reform. Agreed.
Health care? I believe as long as the health industry is in the hands of
large for-profit corporations (both insurance and hospitals an
Don't private teaching hospitals do research?
I heard Lexington KY is a hot bed of medical research because of all
the teaching hospitals. I'm not sure how much of that research is
funded by state or big pharma.
.
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 2:51 PM, Maureen wrote:
>
> Hospital corporations, which
So you're saying there is no good health insurance?
I was very happy with most of my plans, recently not so much.
I do know that when you work for shady companies they offer crappy
plans under the guise of the same benefits you had before. I actually
ask for full plan details and costs before sig
Hospital corporations, which receive the profit from private hospitals, do
very little research, and if they are doing it at all, it is paid for by
either government grants or the pharmaceutical industry.
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 11:34 AM, LRS Scout wrote:
>
> The med thing is a major problem to
I never said profit was bad.
I said (more implied) that when the interests of the patient impact the
interests of the shareholders, the patient will lose...every time.
You make it seem so easy to just switch healthcare insurance providers.
Choosing the 'best' one is like trying to choose the 'be
Maybe they don't have as many gangstas. We discussed the infant
mortality numbers being slewed, what about violence? How many
Canadians survive a hospital visit due to gang violence? Also
remember, the Canadians bus folks across the border to save on
expensive machinery costs. It would suck if we
> >> charity
> >> >> health care systems. People with money don't die because they can't
> >> afford
> >> >> healthcare...Period. Healthcare systems in Canada, the UK,
> Scandanavia,
> >> >> and
> >> >> Germ
o be very effective. If you think people in the
>> >> insurance industry care if you live or die, you are smoking some good
>> shit.
>> >> They have whole departments that dedicated to finding ways to deny
>> claims
>> >> so
>> >> you can
I do, but unless you're working for a crappy company they will likely
change. Unless HR is getting a kick back or just lazy there is no
benefit in wasting money on a poor performing insurance company.
.
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 2:26 PM, LRS Scout wrote:
>
> Should and will aren't the same thing
ed to finding ways to deny
> claims
> >> so
> >> you can't afford to get treatment so they can make a higher profit.
> That
> >> is
> >> fact...not hyperbole.
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: GMoney
get treatment so they can make a higher profit. That
>> is
>> fact...not hyperbole.
>>
>> -----Original Message-
>> From: GMoney [mailto:gm0n3...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 8:27 AM
>> To: cf-community
>> Subject: Re: Latest
Should and will aren't the same thing Sam and you know it.
On Feb 14, 2013 2:24 PM, "Sam" wrote:
>
> Some companies offer multiple vendors but if the employees aren't
> happy the company will/should change. The only reason they offered
> benefits originally was to attract employees.
>
> .
>
> On
Some companies offer multiple vendors but if the employees aren't
happy the company will/should change. The only reason they offered
benefits originally was to attract employees.
.
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 2:17 PM, LRS Scout wrote:
>
> As employees you don't have the ability to choose another ve
g ways to deny claims so
> you can't afford to get treatment so they can make a higher profit. That is
> fact...not hyperbole.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: GMoney [mailto:gm0n3...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 8:27 AM
> To: cf-community
> Subjec
As employees you don't have the ability to choose another vendor.
On Feb 14, 2013 2:12 PM, "Sam" wrote:
>
> The amount of profit doesn't matter unless it impacts service and the
> option to choose another is not there.
>
> .
>
> On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 2:04 PM, LRS Scout wrote:
> >
> > I'm sayi
The amount of profit doesn't matter unless it impacts service and the
option to choose another is not there.
.
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 2:04 PM, LRS Scout wrote:
>
> I'm saying there is a difference between a 10% profit and a 200% profit,
> don't be coy.
> On Feb 14, 2013 1:48 PM, "Sam" wrote:
I'm saying there is a difference between a 10% profit and a 200% profit,
don't be coy.
On Feb 14, 2013 1:48 PM, "Sam" wrote:
>
> ?? Not sure what you mean. But if greed of profit takes away from the
> service or product then people change companies. Apple and Google are
> doing fine with abundan
ay, February 14, 2013 8:57 AM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: Latest News on the The Affordable Care Act
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 8:30 AM, Vivec wrote:
>
> >
> > You don't have to think "there is no way I can afford healthcare for
> > this dise
?? Not sure what you mean. But if greed of profit takes away from the
service or product then people change companies. Apple and Google are
doing fine with abundant profits without hurting customers.
.
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> From: GMoney [mailto:gm0n3...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 8:27 AM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: Latest News on the The Affordable Care Act
>
>
> A lot of Americans WITH money die.
>
> This scenario often painted of Americans lying outside hospital door
Bullshit G...yes we do.
-Original Message-
From: GMoney [mailto:gm0n3...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 8:57 AM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Latest News on the The Affordable Care Act
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 8:30 AM, Vivec wrote:
>
> You don't have to thin
y 14, 2013 8:27 AM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Latest News on the The Affordable Care Act
A lot of Americans WITH money die.
This scenario often painted of Americans lying outside hospital doors and
dying on their doorsteps because they've been turned away, is a bit of a
hyperbole. Yes, the qu
There is a point at which profit becomes usury.
On Feb 14, 2013 1:15 PM, "Sam" wrote:
>
> You sound like a socialist making profit a bad word.
>
> A company that makes a profit is good for everyone. And if you as a
> patient don;t like the company you get up and change to another. The
> one that
That sounds like something I could get behind.
Maybe even some kind of packages or tiers of services to allow people to
only pay for those services they use.
On Feb 14, 2013 1:11 PM, "Maureen" wrote:
>
> I like Monaco's plan. No personal income tax, extremely low business tax
> (roughly 6% on
I agree that is a major problem, but in a free and open society what is the
answer?
In reality we should be providing for ourselves, same as our retirement.
Or at least we should be pushing it down to state and local level where we
can have tighter control over spending and regulations. Also, we
You sound like a socialist making profit a bad word.
A company that makes a profit is good for everyone. And if you as a
patient don;t like the company you get up and change to another. The
one that can stay in business by earning a profit and keep the
customers happy is the one that will last. T
I like Monaco's plan. No personal income tax, extremely low business tax
(roughly 6% on income earned outside the country), a flat fee for social
services including medical care averages 20-40% contribution by the
employer and 10-14% by the employee.
One of the richest countries on earth, highes
The problem is most health insurance companies do not answer to those for
whom they provide coverage, nor for any company with whom there is a
'group' plan. No, most health insurance companies answer to their
shareholders.
And shareholders typically demand a profit.
That right these is the probl
Your last email before this was robably most correct. I'm sure some
companies, maybe even many, ae using it as an excuse to raise rates above
what the new regulations would require.
However, ther is no possible way you can deny that betwenn raisnig the age
of a "child" to 26 and adding the assit
It'll work it's way out once the law actually kicks in. Right now they
overcompensated to cover the new under 26 plus they're stockpiling
money to cover pre-existing and whatever else is going to be thrown at
them next year. I'm not liking the insurance companies but their hands
were forced into t
Really? How so?
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 12:40 PM, LRS Scout wrote:
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> Your gut would be wrong.
> On Feb 14, 2013 12:37 PM, "Scott Stroz" wrote:
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> >
> > There were very little changes with our plan this year. Cost went up a
> bit,
> > but not much.
> >
> > As far as coverage, the only big t
Wanna bet any the 'additional expenses' are dwarfed by the rate hikes?
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 12:39 PM, LRS Scout wrote:
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> They raised their rates to cover additional expenses forced on them by
> regulation.
>
> It's the same reason big companies are cutting hourly wages and hours and
> ra
Your gut would be wrong.
On Feb 14, 2013 12:37 PM, "Scott Stroz" wrote:
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> There were very little changes with our plan this year. Cost went up a bit,
> but not much.
>
> As far as coverage, the only big thing that changed was that we no longer
> need referrals to see a specialist.
>
> My gut t
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