I don't think that insulting others does anything to advance the
discussion. If you think that insults are a valid response, then as
others have said, this discussion is dead and pushing up daisies.
Try to be civil, it helps.
On 1/22/06, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Dana wrote:
> > I
> Dana wrote:
> If the University of PA study I posted late last night doesn't do this to
> your satisfaction
> then I don't know what to say.
If your advanced economics knowlege is based on reading one study and
then coming to a national or global conclusion, I can see why you make
your living a
Wednesday, January 18, 2006 9:14 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: [signs of sanity] MD no longer subsidizing Wal-Mart
>
>
>
> If the University of PA study I posted late last night doesn't do this to
> your satisfaction, then I don't know what to say. I do think i
Yeah, I am pretty much done with it.
> -Original Message-
> From: dana tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 9:14 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: [signs of sanity] MD no longer subsidizing Wal-Mart
>
> If the University of P
: CF-Community
Subject: Re: [signs of sanity] MD no longer subsidizing Wal-Mart
If the University of PA study I posted late last night doesn't do this to
your satisfaction, then I don't know what to say. I do think it would take
regression analysis and though I have limped through on
If the University of PA study I posted late last night doesn't do this to your
satisfaction, then I don't know what to say. I do think it would take
regression analysis and though I have limped through one or two a while back it
would take more time and resources than I personally have available
Give me credit for not thinking either, Tim. My daughter, sister and ex all
have spelling issues and are very much bright and educated. I have to say
though that I can see why you would get frustrated -- I sure did. I still say,
however, that "I worked there and it was ok" does not refute a regr
One could say that government is there to help foster business, thus
helping the (local) economy. I would agree with that.
One could also say that a business of 1 employee has different needs and
requirements than a business of 100,000 employees. I would also agree to
that.
If you agre
Yes, they invalid, without an amendment allowing them.
Tim
> -Original Message-
> From: Vivec [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 6:05 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: [signs of sanity] MD no longer subsidizing Walmart
>
>
> *chuckle*
>
> Anti-Monopoly law
Laws discriminate by company size all the timelike employment of
military person that have been deployed and maternity leave. I think that
the law being made should have limits according to what the law is
affecting, the 2 examples above deal with # of employees as the limit and
weather you hav
Night Dana.
Tim
> -Original Message-
> From: dana tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 12:13 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: [signs of sanity] MD no longer subsidizing Wal-Mart
>
>
> I am sure your experience as a WalMar
;t have the greatest spelling ability in the world, that I am unread,
or under educated.
Tim
> -Original Message-
> From: dana tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 12:10 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: [signs of sanity] MD no longer subsidiz
I am sure your experience as a WalMart employee was also very nice . Isn't
that what you said? As for why be on the list, good question...
I do know I have stuff to do. Have a good night.
>Mine as well?
>
>Honestly, if you can't debate your opinions with members of the list, your
>ignoring membe
I am saying, that having lived through the cycle you are talking about, that
I saw a great amount of local economic improvement.
Tim
> -Original Message-
> From: dana tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 10:23 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: [signs of s
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> From: Nick McClure [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 10:59 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: [signs of sanity] MD no longer subsidizing Wal-Mart
>
>
> You know that is a very hateful way to look at this. I would go so far
> as to say that
::smile:: I said a while ago I was going and I am. But since you ask, I am
where I want to be, playing with ideas and thinking about a third career. I've
been quite affluent, I've been very poor, and I am pretty comfortable as we
speak a couple of years out from losing every single thing I owned
Mine as well?
Honestly, if you can't debate your opinions with members of the list, your
ignoring members of the list, why be on the list?
Tim
> -Original Message-
> From: dana tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 11:52 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re:
This is an excellent point. Who are we to differentiate between two
different companies simply by size. Isn't that "discriminatory" in nature?
Tim
> -Original Message-
> From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 4:42 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject:
>3> The effect on the local economy of a Wal-Mart store is often negative.
That is the point I have yet to see anyone prove.
Quite simply this should be quantifiable. Wal-Mart has been following the
same practices in a great different types of economies successfully for
decades now. Your point
There's a study with (I think) similar conclusions. When Walmart moves, it
usually just moves to the next town over.
http://recenter.tamu.edu/pdf/1720.pdf
>Ok...map yourself a drive out to Huber Heights Ohio. When you get off I70
>you want to turn north on 202 you will find a building that MAY
right, thank you for putting it in a nutshell. I was getting really frustrated
trying to ask that question.
>I just don't get it. What I'm seeing here is big gov't is good if it
>benefits corporations but bad if it benefits individuals.
~~~
I read a couple of them, but I've also seen the numbers. This isn't
knee-jerk corporate adoration.
Its the facts.
> -Original Message-
> From: dana tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 3:46 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: [sign
You can't possibly believe this?
So that's all Wal-Mart has to do? The main company does all the bulk
buying, and they have "franchises" that actually own the local store and pay
far less than mom and pop ever could for their retail products.
Tim
> -Original Message-
> From: dana tierne
you didn't read the article I posted did you. I get tired of arguing with
knee-jerk corporate adoration. I think I'll wander off and find some people
with open minds.
>Everything I've read that wal-mart gets is the same as other companies
>get should they ask.
>
>Wal-mart didn't get major incent
net
>Which is far less than the amount of money wal-mart pays in taxes.
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: dana tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 7:45 PM
>> To: CF-Community
>> Subject: Re: [signs of sanity] MD no longer
I just don't get it. What I'm seeing here is big gov't is good if it
benefits corporations but bad if it benefits individuals.
On 1/16/06, Tim Heald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Tim doesn't agree with any taxes.
>
> Tim hates eminent domain.
>
> Tim sees Wal-Mart filling a need in his community.
>
> T-Bone wrote:
> Tim doesn't agree with any taxes.
>
> Tim hates eminent domain.
>
> Tim sees Wal-Mart filling a need in his community.
>
> Are there things here that I don't agree with? Yes. However I think that
> Wal-Mart does far more good than harm.
>
Yeah, +1.
Personally I'm against any t
On 1/16/06, Tim Heald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Tim doesn't agree with any taxes.
>
> Tim hates eminent domain.
>
> Tim sees Wal-Mart filling a need in his community.
>
> Are there things here that I don't agree with? Yes. However I think that
> Wal-Mart does far more good than harm.
Much
e [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 12:02 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: [signs of sanity] MD no longer subsidizing Wal-Mart
>
> Okay, let me get this straight:
>
> Bad:
> - Gov't forcing wal-mart to give workers a certain level of
>
o: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: [signs of sanity] MD no longer subsidizing Wal-Mart
>
> Okay, let me get this straight:
>
> Bad:
> - Gov't forcing wal-mart to give workers a certain level of
healthcare.
>
> Good
> - Gov't using emminent domain to take land
Okay, let me get this straight:
Bad:
- Gov't forcing wal-mart to give workers a certain level of healthcare.
Good
- Gov't using emminent domain to take land from citizens and
small-businesses to give to wal-mart.
- Gov't giving subsidies and incentives to wal-mart that they don't
give to other bu
> KG wrote:
> Rgght. Walmart regularly closes stores and opens one right across
> the county line. Nothing to do with unions or profitability.
>
Wal-mart reflects it's customers and does what the customers ask. If
customers stop going to Wal-mart because of "subsidies" or a lack of
social con
Which is far less than the amount of money wal-mart pays in taxes.
> -Original Message-
> From: dana tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 7:45 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: [signs of sanity] MD no longer subsidizing Wal-Mart
>
>
I bet they make threats that they will close, but only follow through if
other reasons come up.
> -Original Message-
> From: Loathe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 8:19 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: [signs of sanity] MD no longer subsi
Ok...map yourself a drive out to Huber Heights Ohio. When you get off I70
you want to turn north on 202 you will find a building that MAY be
temporiarily filled or empty. Your will notice plenty of expansion room, I
heard a Bed Bath and Beyond might be moving in so it may not be empty
anymore. Thi
Rgght. Walmart regularly closes stores and opens one right across
the county line. Nothing to do with unions or profitability.
Cities are using imminent domain to take land to give land to
wal-mart. But since it's in the interest of corporate growth, that's
okay? Cities are giving huge tax bre
see the University of California study I just posted in the other thread. It
concludes that yes it is a subsidy and that the net public cost of Walmart
operations nationwide is about $2 billion.
Dana
>Those are investments. The bring businesses to town. There was still no
>grant of money, yes
Those are investments. The bring businesses to town. There was still no
grant of money, yes land, but not money.
Also that's not anything even remotely health care related.
Tim
> -Original Message-
> From: dana tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 7:27 PM
sure it does :) Google "Walmart incentives location".
>Great, there's the incentives, now where is the closing?
>
>Any major employer can get these kinds of deals from local governments.
>MBNA moved into Camden Maine for free, no property taxes, free land the
>whole nine. They were bought out an
Great, there's the incentives, now where is the closing?
Any major employer can get these kinds of deals from local governments.
MBNA moved into Camden Maine for free, no property taxes, free land the
whole nine. They were bought out and all the Maine offices are now being
closed.
Wal-Mart doesn
then I guess MD has nothing to worry about. Re Quebec, yes, it was a union
dispute.
Dana
>That's BS.
>
>Wal-Mart only closes stores that either try to unionize or can't make money.
>
>Tim
>
>>
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Message: http://www.houseoffusi
That's BS.
Wal-Mart only closes stores that either try to unionize or can't make money.
Tim
> -Original Message-
> From: Kevin Graeme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 12:14 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: [signs of sanity] MD no longer subsidizing Walmart
>
you could always adopt Gruss' solution ;p MBAs for everyone. Seriously, Laurel,
Columbia, Baltimore, PG County... those people all seem to do just fine.
>For people with little or know skill or ability?
>
>Yeah there is a lot of work here, for public administration, IT people,
>lawyers and other
For people with little or know skill or ability?
Yeah there is a lot of work here, for public administration, IT people,
lawyers and other professionals.
Hell there is a lot of blue collar work here, construction and so forth.
However if you could/would do construction I am pretty sure that you
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