exactly. :)
will
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From: Fleischer, Beth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 18 December 2001 21:35
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: I'll never understand...
i am a citizen and I didn't have to declare anything. i was born this way.
> -Original Messag
cember 18, 2001 6:37 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: I'll never understand...
>
> > A note I've been looking at becoming naturalized and so have
> > been studying the process. The naturalization test is a 75
> > question test covering history, the con
i am a citizen and I didn't have to declare anything. i was born this way.
> -Original Message-
> From: Will Swain [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 12:42 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: I'll never understand...
>
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> From: Maureen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 2:02 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: I'll never understand...
>
>
> At 09:34 AM 12/18/01, you wrote:
> >heh .. wonder how many of us could pass that test?
> >
CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 2:01 PM
Subject: Re: I'll never understand...
> At 09:34 AM 12/18/01, you wrote:
> >heh .. wonder how many of us could pass that test?
> >
> >T
At 09:34 AM 12/18/01, you wrote:
>heh .. wonder how many of us could pass that test?
>
>Todd
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>>|From: Philip Arnold - ASP [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>|
>>|Just had a thought, I wonder if Erika is up for moving to Canada for a
>>|while so we can get Canadian citizenship as well
>>|
>>|Lets see how many passports we can collect... LOL!
Hmm Canada. Love Canada. I have lots of friends
> Just to chime in I was born IN Canada but I have US born
> birth abroad, so I have american citizenship too. I have
> both passports(cdn is more $$), and I have never had a
> problem. I actually had them both one time and got asked a
> few questions by Customs, and they said no problem See ya
> I would have to say I can't think of a situation where I
> would give up my British passport. Not for American
> citizenship or citizenship anywhere else. As for having an
> American passport, I imagine there would be times when it
> would be downright inconvenient to have one, such as when I
>
No really, I like to see the use off off the wall words, making otherwise
vapid statements appear more interesting! I certainly wasn't subjecting you
to more raillery!
:)
Erika
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>>|From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>|
>>|Thanks, u
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From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 18 December 2001 16:01
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: I'll never understand...
My own take on the issue is that I would rather not give up my Canadian
citizenship. There are definite advantages having a Canadian passport over
an American one.
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> -Original Message-
> From: Todd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 11:16 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: I'll never understand...
>
You don't *have* to be a U.S citizen anyway. The only negative effect of
not being a citizen is that if you break the law, you could be eligable for
deportation. So .. avoid the mass killing sprees, and you'll be fine :)
Todd
> My own take on the issue is that I would rather not give up my C
On the other hand, if one is born in the US, one is a citizen, no matter
what, and then if one moves to a foreign country, one can obtain dual
citizenship. This is what my brother has -- he lives in Israel and is a
citizen of the US and of Israel. My sister-in-law Gillian, who was born in
Engl
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> Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 11:07 AM
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From: Erika L Walker
To: CF-Community
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 10:06 AM
Subject: RE: I'll never understand...
>>|From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>|
>>| rat
One more for the curious:
http://www.richw.org/dualcit/
Erika
(with a K)
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> My own take on the issue is that I would rather not give up
> my Canadian citizenship. There are definite advantages having
> a Canadian passport over an American one. Not the least being
> is that the general perception is that Canada is the nice guy
> of the world, as opposed to the idea of th
Some more info on the matter:
http://travel.state.gov/dualnationality.html
Erika
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>>|From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>|
>>|>From what I understand, according to US law you have to give up
>>|any other citizenship. However both
be a negative.
will
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From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 18 December 2001 16:01
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: I'll never understand...
My own take on the issue is that I would rather not give up my Canadian
citizenship. There are definite advantage
>>|From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>|
>>| rather bellicose
Larry, I absolutely adore your vocabulary!!
:) And I mean that with the sincerest of compliments.
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> Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 10:57 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: I'll never understand...
>
>
> > From what I understand, according to US law you have to give up any
> > other
> > citizenship. However both British and Canadian laws al
> From what I understand, according to US law you have to give up any
> other
> citizenship. However both British and Canadian laws allow for
> dual citizenship. While I am not sure about the UK, Canadian
> law only recognizes giving up Canadian citizenship only if
> you do it before a government
getting my Irish passport last summer (damned if
I'm waiting at European immigration lines for non-EU passport holders).
-Original Message-
From: Philip Arnold - ASP [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 10:51
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: I'll never
Oh no!!
2 really bad images :))
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From: Philip Arnold - ASP [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 18 December 2001 15:51
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: I'll never understand...
> You can be both. My sister has a friend who was born in Canada and
> then
> You can be both. My sister has a friend who was born in
> Canada and then got his U.S. citizenship after moving here.
> He has both now ..
Hurrah - 2 passports!
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> -Original Message-
> From: Philip Arnold - ASP [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 10:37 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: I'll never understand...
>
t: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 10:37 AM
Subject: RE: I'll never understand...
> > A note I've been looking at becoming naturalized and so have
> > been studying the process. The naturalization test is a 75
> > question test covering history, the constitution, and the
&
> A note I've been looking at becoming naturalized and so have
> been studying the process. The naturalization test is a 75
> question test covering history, the constitution, and the
> structure of government - local state and government. You
> also have to disavow all other national allegiances
cember 18, 2001 9:48 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: I'll never understand...
>
>
> I would almost enjoy taking the test to see how I do.
>
> At 09:45 AM 12/18/2001 -0500, you wrote:
> >My wife (a born citizen, and educated here) tried a sample
> test -
Damned proud to be an American without a spell checker, obviously!
Jerry Johnson
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/18/01 10:19AM >>>
My parents sponsered a few people for citizenship (mostly Navy wives
who
were met in foreign ports).
Seeing the depth of feeling that these people poured into the proces
My parents sponsered a few people for citizenship (mostly Navy wives who
were met in foreign ports).
Seeing the depth of feeling that these people poured into the process, it
made me realize again and again how lucky I am to have been born here.
Whenever I am feeling less-than-patriotic about
I would almost enjoy taking the test to see how I do.
At 09:45 AM 12/18/2001 -0500, you wrote:
>My wife (a born citizen, and educated here) tried a sample test - she barely
>passed. From what I understand talking with several others, they had the
>same experience. Its a tough test. There are part
; Subject: Re: I'll never understand...
>
>
> heh .. wonder how many of us could pass that test?
>
> Todd
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Larry Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent:
heh .. wonder how many of us could pass that test?
Todd
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From: "Larry Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 9:30 AM
Subject: RE: I'll never understand...
> A note I
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> -Original Message-
> From: Nick McClure [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 9:17 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: I'll never understand...
>
I am not familiar with the process. I know you have to take a history test,
and take an oath to uphold the Constitution.
And in the public schools, and most private (I think), you do say the
Pledge of Allegiance to the flag.
We share an identity in very broad terms. Overall we are capitalists
I agree with that. But what I am saying is that those people do not
necessarily make society racist.
At 09:45 AM 12/18/2001 +, you wrote:
>My original point was that you don't have to dress up in a white hood to be
>a racist. Neither do you need to be a member of the BNP here. Racist exists
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Sent: 17 December 2001 18:44
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: I'll never understand...
At 06:28 PM 12/17/2001 +, you wrote:
>Interesting. We don't have the KKK here, but we do have various racist
>political parties and movements etc. These aren't really the people I am
process here in the UK.
will
-Original Message-
From: Nick McClure [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 17 December 2001 18:34
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: I'll never understand...
America can not be broken down into a single society. Some people, like
Benjamin make it sound like Am
Yes, that is correct. And in most places it is illegal. When I made an
offer on a house, one of the things I had to sign was a form that stated I
did not feel like I was discriminated against for any reason.
But you know, people should be able to not like somebody because of their
race. Parent
At 06:28 PM 12/17/2001 +, you wrote:
>Interesting. We don't have the KKK here, but we do have various racist
>political parties and movements etc. These aren't really the people I am
>referring to though. I'm sure we all know people who are racist in certain
>respects. This doesn't mean they w
America can not be broken down into a single society. Some people, like
Benjamin make it sound like America is a single society. This is simply not
true.
At 06:16 PM 12/17/2001 +, you wrote:
>Interesting. So the definition of a country in this case is infact the
>legislature. I'm not sure I
Message-
> From: Nick McClure [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 9:26 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: I'll never understand...
>
> Why should it be illegal. Then we are legislating what people think. And
> that is just wrong.
>
Exactly. That is why political parties such as the BNP (British National
Party) can exist. You have to take the rough with the smooth in a democracy.
will
-Original Message-
From: Nick McClure [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 17 December 2001 18:26
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: I&#x
one,
would suggest that people = society therefore if people are racist, then so
is society.
will
-Original Message-
From: Nick McClure [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 17 December 2001 18:21
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: I'll never understand...
I do not think that American society i
Why should it be illegal. Then we are legislating what people think. And
that is just wrong.
I think people who are racist are ignorant and should be ignored. But it
should not be illegal.
You should not use race to make decisions on who works for you, or where
you work, or things along those
>> Hey, you have a problem with little bee people in tights?
RACIST!!!
:) <-- smile!
-V
-Original Message-
From: Simon Horwith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 1:02 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: I'll never understand...
Hey, you have
om: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 17 December 2001 18:17
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: I'll never understand...
Alright Will, you just made the list!!!
Just kidding. Racism does exist here, but not to the extend that a lot
of people believe and definitely not to the e
I do not think that American society is racist. I think people are racist
and they are the ones who are vocal.
Just a month or two ago there was a KKK rally here. They are vocal, they
tell people what they think. They are ignorant SOBs who should be ignored.
But they were exercising their righ
be
referred to as society.
I would agree we dont' have a non-racist society in the US.
> -Original Message-
> From: Will Swain [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 9:16 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: I'll never understand...
1 12:01 PM
Subject: RE: I'll never understand...
Hey, you have a problem with little bee people in tights?
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Sent: 17 December 2001 17:35
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: I'll never understand...
I am not aware of any countries in which racism doesn't exist.
Are there any?
> -Original Message-
> From: Will Swain [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, Decem
ereas I am talking about SOCIETIES. For me, a society is more than the
laws that govern it.
Will
-Original Message-
From: Fleischer, Beth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 17 December 2001 18:13
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: I'll never understand...
I would say a racist COUNTRY wou
I would say a racist COUNTRY would have to have racist legislation, or
rather not have racism be illegal.
> -Original Message-
> From: Will Swain [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 8:55 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: I'
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Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 12:53 PM
Subject: Re: I'll never understand...
> Wow, I just re-read what I wrote and I really came off sounding like an
> ass.
>
> Benjamin, I did not mean to imply that you are ignorant. My rantings
> were directed at a
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Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 12:54 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: I'll never understand...
Wow, I just re-read what I wrote and I really came off sounding like an
ass.
Benjamin, I did not mean to imply that you are ignorant. My rantings
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Community
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 10:31 AM
Subject: Re: I'll never understand...
One reason why I don't comment on Afghanistan, Israel, etc. I will
comment on our governme
will
-Original Message-
From: Fleischer, Beth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 17 December 2001 17:45
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: I'll never understand...
a COUNTRY being RACIST and individuals being RACIST are different imo.
our country is NOT racist. Racism certainly exists, in certain so
I'm sure as heck am not a racist .. I don't find NASCAR interesting in any
way.
Todd
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From: "Will Swain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 12:39 PM
Subject: RE: I
> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 8:39 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: I'll never understand...
>
> Not that I know of. And that was my point really. I was referring to
> Michael's assertion that he does not live in a racist society.
>
> will
>
>
Not that I know of. And that was my point really. I was referring to
Michael's assertion that he does not live in a racist society.
will
-Original Message-
From: Fleischer, Beth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 17 December 2001 17:35
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: I'll never
Heavy man. You could insert Christianity and the story would read the same.
-Gary
> -Original Message-
> From: Jon Hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 10:35 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: I'll never understand...
>
>
>
I am not aware of any countries in which racism doesn't exist.
Are there any?
> -Original Message-
> From: Will Swain [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 7:43 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: I'll never understand...
>
>
This is very true. I think we are not stereotyping all of Afghanistan, but
individual groups. We know, for instance, how the Taliban treated people in
general. We have seen the refugees, we have heard interviews from an number
of people both here and there.
But I do not think we have been comm
lie.
Will
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 17 December 2001 16:31
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: I'll never understand...
One reason why I don't comment on Afghanistan, Israel, etc. I will
comment on our governments activities, but I don't
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From: "Angel Stewart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 11:20 AM
Subject: RE: I'll never understand...
> I'm sorry, I just can&#
derive the problem. That demonstrates to
me total ignorance.
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From: Will Swain
To: CF-Community
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 10:00 AM
Subject: RE: I
unity
Subject: RE: I'll never understand...
I'm sorry, I just can't believe this has nothing to do with Religion.
It seems to have everything to do with the religion, and more
particularly the people that follow the religion, and their culture that
is based on this religion.
-Gel
-
*rolls eyes*
Oh please...pick up a book and do some reading.
Religion IS a very important consideration in the lives of the VAST
MAJORITY of Arabs living in the middle east.
That is FACT..that is the TRUTH. Do some research if you doubt me.
-Gel
-Original Message-
From: Larry Lyons [ma
I'm sorry, I just can't believe this has nothing to do with Religion.
It seems to have everything to do with the religion, and more
particularly the people that follow the religion, and their culture that
is based on this religion.
-Gel
-Original Message-
From: Will Swain [mailto:[EMAIL
He's just jealous because he has to ride a kangaroo to work instead of
riding in a car.
Todd
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 10:49 AM
Subject: Re: I'll never understand
wouldn't be discussing much on here.
will
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 17 December 2001 15:49
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: I'll never understand...
Where is this perception that you have come from? You don't even live
here?
M
49 AM
Subject: Re: I'll never understand...
> A group of people that will cut off a thief's hands, condone the
murder of
family members for adultery, etc...
Also, I'd have to say that if you could respond with some facts about
america that are equally disturbing. Amer
Howie's comment
> about "...A group
> of people that will cut off a thief's hands..." I was pointing out a
> generalisation made about middle-eastern people.
>
> Benjamin
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Larry Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTE
: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> -Original Message-
> From: Benjamin Falloon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 8:53 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: I'll never understand...
>
>
> How so
Defending who?
Benjamin
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From: "Larry Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 12:44 AM
Subject: RE: I'll never understand...
> Then why are you defending them?
How so?
Quote me...
Benjamin
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From: "Larry Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 12:42 AM
Subject: RE: I'll never understand...
> Ben,
>
> You should also
27;s hands..." I was pointing out a
generalisation made about middle-eastern people.
Benjamin
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From: "Larry Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 12:41 AM
Subject: RE: I'll ne
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> -Original Message-
> From: Benjamin Falloon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 8:39 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: I'll never understand...
>
>
> >
12:52 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: I'll never understand...
>
>
> > that the right or wrong invloved with killing another human
> being should
> not be based on the religion of the victim.
>
> This is because you live the a mostly secular society. Pe
aos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done.
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> -Original Message-
> From: Benjamin Falloon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2001 12:49 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: I'll never understand...
>
>
> > A group of people tha
spute this at all. The Taliban from my understanding was a very
oppresive regime.
Benjamin
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From: "Larry Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 12:29 AM
Subject: RE: I'll ne
December 16, 2001 12:26 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: I'll never understand...
>
>
> I don't think you do either with generalisations like that
>
> The solider has a point to quote:
>
> "If I die fighting an Arab, I'm an unholy martyr,&
d bin Laden, I might take him to the United Nations. But never to
the Americans, even if they are offering $25 million to turn him in."
will
-Original Message-
From: Angel Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 16 December 2001 20:59
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: I'll never unde
Subject: Re: I'll never understand...
No, I don't want you to go on simply because you are stereotyping all
Americans. It's one thing to disagree with the foreign
policies of a country but it is an entirely different thing to categorize
all Americans as racists, as "glued"
You have to understand Howie, that these people have been brainwashed.
They think they are serving some single deity somewhere but in reality
they are serving men on earth who have perverted religion to control
people, to their own ends.
That is why we can see such hipocrisy in Islam, with this
Just my personal views.
I justify killing in a very simple way. To save the lives of innocent
people and to protect ones self.
The Taliban were ruthless people who would rather see a woman beaten in
public than see her face. Those who believed this should be killed. There
is no place for them
Regarding slavery, America was not built on slavery. A very small
percentage of people in America actually owned slaves; and it was not legal
through the majority of the country.
In the north where the majority of the manufacturing and mercantile
industry was there was no slavery.
I don't kno
I like it when people who do not live and see what actually goes on in this
country first hand, seem to know so much more about the people and events
of this country than the people who live here.
>Also, I'd have to say that if you could respond with some facts about
>america that are equally d
December 16, 2001 1:08 PM
Subject: Re: I'll never understand...
> Yes, that is my point. You believe that the religion of the victim should
> not be the criteria for judgement. Saying this is judgement in itself of
> those who would justify killing in this way. This is my point. That
TECTED]>
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 4:57 AM
Subject: Re: I'll never understand...
> Did you even read what I said? I said that the religion of a victim
should not be a criteria for judging whether the act was
> justified or not.
>
> Howie
>
> - Original Message --
America never engaged in slavery or that
their is no racial disparity in the US.
Benjamin
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From: "Howie Hamlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 4:55 AM
Subject: Re: I'll neve
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2001 12:52 PM
Subject: Re: I'll never understand...
> > that the right or wrong invloved with killing another human being should
> not be based on the religion of the victim.
>
> This is because you live the a mostly secular society. People in t
others.
Please keep your own stereotypical views to yourself.
Howie
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uld not judge them. Killing others is wrong for any
reason.
Benjamin
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> A group of people that will cut off a thief's hands, condone the murder of
family members for adultery, etc...
Also, I'd have to say that if you could respond with some facts about
america that are equally disturbing. America, a country glued to the
television set, obsessed with buying things t
ing should not be based
on the religion of the victim.
Howie
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> I d
I don't think you do either with generalisations like that
The solider has a point to quote:
"If I die fighting an Arab, I'm an unholy martyr," explained Ghafar. "But if
I kill an Arab in battle, he'll be a shahid, a holy martyr."
"This is not a holy war," Ghafar continued. "We are supporti
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