Almost 100% of the people who use or smoke pot are breaking some law.
His question is logically flawed.
On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 7:47 AM, Dana wrote:
>
> are we adjusting for the cultural mores of california, alaska and washington
> DC?
Red Herring alert.
On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 7:38 AM, Scott Stroz wrote:
>
> Quick comparison:
>
> What percentage of people who posses/use pot are breaking the law?
>
> What percentage of people who posses/use guns are breaking the law?
~~~
Also true.
On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 6:58 AM, Larry Lyons wrote:
>
>>It's not the drug, it's the rapists who use it, that are dangerous.
>
> Seems we've heard this argument before in a slightly different form:
>
>
> Guns don't kill people do.
~~~
Heh..Larry and I actually see eye to eye on quite a few things, its
just we usually disagree on the more...e...emotional...topics.
On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 7:34 PM, Dana wrote:
>
> I am writing down the date.
>
> On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 3:11 PM, Scott Stroz wrote:
>
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 23, 2009
I am writing down the date.
On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 3:11 PM, Scott Stroz wrote:
>
> On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 3:28 PM, Larry Lyons wrote:
> >
> >>Actually, that is not what I said.
> >>
> >>What I said was that sometimes (though not nearly as often as some
> >>would have you believe) pot is the f
On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 3:28 PM, Larry Lyons wrote:
>
>>Actually, that is not what I said.
>>
>>What I said was that sometimes (though not nearly as often as some
>>would have you believe) pot is the first step. Most (if not all) of
>>the hardcore drug users I saw in my career in EMS started with
That was not my argument.
On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 4:26 PM, Larry Lyons wrote:
>
>>The start of this discussion was based on why we spent money enforcing
>>the law. Larry brought guns in to the discussion, so I was just using
>>what has been thrown on the table.
>>
>>On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 10:49
>The start of this discussion was based on why we spent money enforcing
>the law. Larry brought guns in to the discussion, so I was just using
>what has been thrown on the table.
>
>On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 10:49 AM, Michael Grant wrote:
>>
I didnot bring it up in the way you imply. All I said was
> Single cases always make an emotional argument to involved just as
> personal experience does, but that's a total aside.
> If you can find that reference, I'd appreciate it. Not that it means
> anything to me, but a reference is always good when a discussion like
> this comes up. And you KNOW it
>Actually, that is not what I said.
>
>What I said was that sometimes (though not nearly as often as some
>would have you believe) pot is the first step. Most (if not all) of
>the hardcore drug users I saw in my career in EMS started with pot.
>Now, as has been stated, this has more to do with the
The start of this discussion was based on why we spent money enforcing
the law. Larry brought guns in to the discussion, so I was just using
what has been thrown on the table.
On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 10:49 AM, Michael Grant wrote:
>
> I was honestly just not getting the correlation. I wasn't sayi
I was honestly just not getting the correlation. I wasn't saying you
shouldn't be asking.
On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 10:47 AM, Scott Stroz wrote:
>
> That never stopped a tangent before.
>
> On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 10:46 AM, Michael Grant wrote:
> >
> > How does this really relate to the topic at
I agree with the former. Disagree with the latter.
On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 10:47 AM, G Money wrote:
>
> Doesn't, except to illustrate that pot is currently illegal and probably
> shouldn't be, and guns are currently legal, and probably shouldn't be :)
>
> On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 9:46 AM, Michael
Why adjust? What percentage of those who use/posses pot are braking
the law vs. what percentage thos who use/possess guns are breaking the
law.
On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 10:47 AM, Dana wrote:
>
> are we adjusting for the cultural mores of california, alaska and washington
> DC?
>
> On Thu, Jul 23,
That never stopped a tangent before.
On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 10:46 AM, Michael Grant wrote:
>
> How does this really relate to the topic at hand though?
>
>
>
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On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 8:46 AM, Michael Grant wrote:
>
> How does this really relate to the topic at hand though?
>
>
>
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Doesn't, except to illustrate that pot is currently illegal and probably
shouldn't be, and guns are currently legal, and probably shouldn't be :)
On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 9:46 AM, Michael Grant wrote:
>
> How does this really relate to the topic at hand though?
>
>
>
~~
are we adjusting for the cultural mores of california, alaska and washington
DC?
On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 8:42 AM, Scott Stroz wrote:
>
> OK, how about nationally.
>
> On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 10:41 AM, Dana wrote:
> >
> > I think it depends on the communities where you sample...
> >
> > On Thu,
How does this really relate to the topic at hand though?
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OK, how about nationally.
On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 10:41 AM, Dana wrote:
>
> I think it depends on the communities where you sample...
>
> On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 8:38 AM, Scott Stroz wrote:
>
>>
>> Quick comparison:
>>
>> What percentage of people who posses/use pot are breaking the law?
>>
>> W
I think it depends on the communities where you sample...
On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 8:38 AM, Scott Stroz wrote:
>
> Quick comparison:
>
> What percentage of people who posses/use pot are breaking the law?
>
> What percentage of people who posses/use guns are breaking the law?
>
> On Thu, Jul 23,
Quick comparison:
What percentage of people who posses/use pot are breaking the law?
What percentage of people who posses/use guns are breaking the law?
On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 9:58 AM, Larry Lyons wrote:
>
>>It's not the drug, it's the rapists who use it, that are dangerous.
>
> Seems we've he
That's right.
I have never heard of any incident where a person died from a gunshot
where there was not a person involved by holding/touching/handling the
gun. Guns don't just shoot themselves.
On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 9:58 AM, Larry Lyons wrote:
>
>>It's not the drug, it's the rapists who use it
Actually, that is not what I said.
What I said was that sometimes (though not nearly as often as some
would have you believe) pot is the first step. Most (if not all) of
the hardcore drug users I saw in my career in EMS started with pot.
Now, as has been stated, this has more to do with the perso
...cuz of the weed. tsk tsk. ;)
On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 10:05 AM, Ras Tafari wrote:
>
> even i saw that lar, and im slow.
>
> On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 9:54 AM, Larry Lyons wrote:
> >
> >> Nothing makes me smile more than you non-nonsensical analogies. I
> >> have
> >> truly missed them.
> >>
>
even i saw that lar, and im slow.
On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 9:54 AM, Larry Lyons wrote:
>
>> Nothing makes me smile more than you non-nonsensical analogies. I
>> have
>> truly missed them.
>>
>> According to other people's logic, we should ban water too, because
>> when misused, it can kill.
>
>
>
>It's not the drug, it's the rapists who use it, that are dangerous.
Seems we've heard this argument before in a slightly different form:
Guns don't kill people do.
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> Nothing makes me smile more than you non-nonsensical analogies. I
> have
> truly missed them.
>
> According to other people's logic, we should ban water too, because
> when misused, it can kill.
the point I'm making is that the gateway drug argument is bullshit. Not only
from a logical poin
Yeah, and I can give you a long list of people destroyed by wine,
another drug with psychoactive effects. Let's ban them all.
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 11:02 AM, Michael
Dinowitz wrote:
>
> The entire part from cocaine in moderation down was a sarcastic bite
> at pot being 'benign'.
>
> I have an
It's not the drug, it's the rapists who use it, that are dangerous.
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 9:20 AM, Casey
Dougall wrote:
>
> And I'm sure the thousands of women who were slipped one then raped say the
> same thing the next day.
>
> That's by far the worst drug ever invented.
~~
Water will kill you if you drink too much. Pot is less harmful to
your health than boiled eggs. Coffee is more dangerous than most
prescription drugs, and all of those things are substantially less
dangerous than tobacco, which is legal.
Spending 50 million dollars to possibly arrest 10 men, w
Nothing makes me smile more than you non-nonsensical analogies. I have
truly missed them.
According to other people's logic, we should ban water too, because
when misused, it can kill.
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 4:01 PM, Larry Lyons wrote:
>
>>It can be a 'gateway drug' regardless of its the person
Single cases always make an emotional argument to involved just as
personal experience does, but that's a total aside.
If you can find that reference, I'd appreciate it. Not that it means
anything to me, but a reference is always good when a discussion like
this comes up. And you KNOW it will agai
>It can be a 'gateway drug' regardless of its the person or the drug.
>There are times where pot is merely the first step.
>
so is mother's milk or oral sex. In fact mother's milk according to your logic
should be banned, 99.9% of all who use more serious drugs first started
with mother
>The entire part from cocaine in moderation down was a sarcastic bite
>at pot being 'benign'.
>
>I have an uncle who lives in a nursing home. He's basically a burnout.
>To say that pot is benign is as wrong as saying a roofie is. Just
>because people smoke some now and again does not change the fa
>give me a camera, a keg of beer, an ounce of weed, 12 weed heads and 12 drunks.
>when we are done the intake, ill put those people in front of 100
>people to test annoyingness, belligerency, assholency and
>overall well being. then an hour later, test those same people. the
>drunks will still b
>
> And in a world where everyone blames someone/something else for their
> lot in life, some choose to blame pot even when the blame squarely
> falls on their own shoulders.
Ya, no kidding! Welcome to era of zero personal responsibility.
Protect us from ourselves
I never said using pot makes someone want to try harder drugs, rather
that in some cases pot is the first step.
And in a world where everyone blames someone/something else for their
lot in life, some choose to blame pot even when the blame squarely
falls on their own shoulders. Kind of like blami
You forgot about the part where you woke up with your butthole being
chaffed and sore.
On Jul 22, 2009, at 11:30 AM, Ray Champagne wrote:
>
> I actually got roofie'd once. True story.
>
> I was in college, two dudes were leaving the bar, they left a full
> beer on
> the counter. Dumbly (a
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 2:37 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Why is no one bitching about this?
Sad, but true.
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 2:35 PM, Michael Grant wrote:
>
>>
>> (Australian beer is a lot more potent than American. Ours is light
>> beer to them)
>
>
> Eh
Fair enough, however it's completely irrelevant. Using pot doesn't make
people want to try harder drugs.
Correlation != Causation
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 2:36 PM, Scott Stroz wrote:
>
> It can be a 'gateway drug' regardless of its the person or the drug.
> There are times where pot is merely th
Sad, but true.
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 2:35 PM, Michael Grant wrote:
>
>>
>> (Australian beer is a lot more potent than American. Ours is light
>> beer to them)
>
>
> Eh-hem. Your beer is light to _every_ other country
>
>
>
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It can be a 'gateway drug' regardless of its the person or the drug.
There are times where pot is merely the first step.
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 2:32 PM, Michael Grant wrote:
>
> No I didn't miss it. If you re-read that sentence it doesn't really read
> well if the point you are trying to make is
>
> (Australian beer is a lot more potent than American. Ours is light
> beer to them)
Eh-hem. Your beer is light to _every_ other country
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On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 2:30 PM, Michael Dinowitz <
mdino...@houseoffusion.com> wrote:
> (Australian beer is a lot more potent than American. Ours is light
> beer to them)
>
>
LOL
That makes me want to go down to Mendocino brewing company and get my
growler filled this afternoon.
Eye of The Haw
No I didn't miss it. If you re-read that sentence it doesn't really read
well if the point you are trying to make is that weed isn't a gateway drug.
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 2:29 PM, Scott Stroz wrote:
>
> Obviously you missed the part where i said 'While not as prevalent as
> some might try to
Funny thing. I used to tell people that as a medic I would get called
for fights involving drunk people just about every night. The only
time I ever would get called for a stoner who was in a fight was if a
drunk punched him.
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 2:27 PM, Ras Tafari wrote:
>
> addicts will be
There are happy drunks and mean drunks. Are you saying that there are
no mean pot heads? And when you say normal, you mean the buzz has worn
off and they can (or should) drive or normal as in they're just cool
dudes? And I'm sure you have an equivalent dosage worked out, right?
Or is it just whate
Obviously you missed the part where i said 'While not as prevalent as
some might try to make you believe'.
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 2:26 PM, Michael Grant wrote:
>
> Marijuana isn't habit forming. Not from a physiological standpoint anyway.
> And weed being a 'gateway' drug is a reflection on the
addicts will be addicts regardless with which they start.
non-addicts will not be.
no matter what... alcohol makes people jerks at some point in the night.
no matter what... herb will never make that happen.
no matter what... cocaine will make you want more when that 15 minutes is up.
no matter w
Marijuana isn't habit forming. Not from a physiological standpoint anyway.
And weed being a 'gateway' drug is a reflection on the people using it, not
on the drug itself.
Don't believe the hype Scott.
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 2:22 PM, Scott Stroz wrote:
>
> That does not make it any less habit
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 2:22 PM, Scott Stroz wrote:
> pot can also be the 'spring board' drug to harder core drugs.
>
Yeah, just like kids snorting their friends crushed up riddlin.
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That does not make it any less habit forming or illegal.
While not as prevalent as some might try to make you believe, pot can
also be the 'spring board' drug to harder core drugs. I doubt there
are many crack heads who started with crack, I'd bet most started with
pot or cocaine.
On Wed, Jul 2
Yeh. Good luck with that.
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 2:11 PM, Casey
Dougall wrote:
> ask him what else he was taking
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Have you actually had a cabbage roll? It would ruin anyones life. :)
Maybe pot will not cause someone to drop dead but the psychological
effect it has IS dangerous. I had a boss who sent me to park the car
while he was getting some pot. He knew I couldn't drive!
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 2:10 PM, M
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From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:mdino...@houseoffusion.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 2:03 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Why is no one bit
give me a camera, a keg of beer, an ounce of weed, 12 weed heads and 12 drunks.
when we are done the intake, ill put those people in front of 100
people to test annoyingness, belligerency, assholency and
overall well being. then an hour later, test those same people. the
drunks will still be dru
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 2:02 PM, Michael Dinowitz <
mdino...@houseoffusion.com> wrote:
> I have an uncle who lives in a nursing home. He's basically a burnout.
>
ask him what else he was taking
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There are exceptions to every rule. However I think you'd find that
statistically _all_ drugs, including (read:especially) alcohol have much
more devastating effects on people's lives and health than marijuana. I'm
sure you could find a guy who's life was ruined because of his consumption
of cabba
The entire part from cocaine in moderation down was a sarcastic bite
at pot being 'benign'.
I have an uncle who lives in a nursing home. He's basically a burnout.
To say that pot is benign is as wrong as saying a roofie is. Just
because people smoke some now and again does not change the fact tha
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 1:22 PM, Scott Stroz wrote:
> I do not recall every saying anything about the 'risk'. And it still
> does not refute anything Michael or I have said.
I was just pointing out that roofies are a pretty high risk thing to
play around as a recreational drug. I don't want to d
I do not recall every saying anything about the 'risk'. And it still
does not refute anything Michael or I have said.
Just about anything, including roofies, can be benign in low enough
doses and just about anything, including water, can be harmful in high
enough doses.
Regardless of how emotion
One definition of 'drug' is: A substance used to treat an illness,
relieve a symptom, or modify a chemical process in the body for a
specific purpose;
Water most definitely fits into that definition.
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 1:08 PM, Casey
Dougall wrote:
>
> On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 1:03 PM, Scott
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 1:03 PM, Scott Stroz wrote:
> What you are referring to is when these drugs are used in high doses
> and typically over a long period of time.
>
> No one ever said they were benign, merely that in the right doses,
> they can be - there is a big difference there.
To be fair
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 1:03 PM, Scott Stroz wrote:
>
>
> Most people would consider water to be benign, but, if taken in high
> enough doses, it can kill you. I have seen that.
>
> So maybe we should outlaw water too?
>
Water is not a drug.
Although it was coined an elixir back in the day w
What you are referring to is when these drugs are used in high doses
and typically over a long period of time.
No one ever said they were benign, merely that in the right doses,
they can be - there is a big difference there.
Most people would consider water to be benign, but, if taken in high
en
never, nowhere, no how, can roofies be considered benign, im sorry.
ive seen the outcome, and it was horrendous.
cocaine, ive seen the outcome and it was horrendous.
heroine, same thing.
crack, same thing.
alcohol, nearly the same.
pot. never.
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 12:50 PM, Scott Stroz wr
1. Then you would be committing a crime.
2. Again, it would not be in moderation.
3. I do not have a daughter.
I never advocated the production/possession/use of roofies. Michael
was merely pointing out that just about anything, including roofies,
can be benign 'in moderation'. And, he is right
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 12:34 PM, Ras Tafari wrote:
>
> ill give your daughter one, take her out to the bar, and let me know
> how that goes
> for ya johnny moderation...
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 12:32 PM, Scott Stroz wrote:
> >
> > Those doses would not be what I would call 'in moderatio
ill give your daughter one, take her out to the bar, and let me know
how that goes
for ya johnny moderation...
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 12:32 PM, Scott Stroz wrote:
>
> Those doses would not be what I would call 'in moderation'.
>
> The point being just about anything can be benign if taken in
>
Those doses would not be what I would call 'in moderation'.
The point being just about anything can be benign if taken in
moderation, and just abotu anything can be harmful if not taken in
moderation. As I pointed out, water can be dangerous if enough is
injested.
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 12:20
I actually got roofie'd once. True story.
I was in college, two dudes were leaving the bar, they left a full beer on
the counter. Dumbly (and broke), I asked if they were gonna just leave that
there. One looked at the other and said "take it". I had no other money
after drinking a second and
WHo the hell takes a roofie in moderation?!?!?!
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 11:17 AM, Scott Stroz wrote:
>
> If taken in moderation, yes.
>
> On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 12:10 PM, Ras Tafari wrote:
> >
> > roofies are benign?
> >
> > are you kidding me?
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 10:27 AM, Michael
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 12:17 PM, Scott Stroz wrote:
> > roofies are benign?
> If taken in moderation, yes.
>
And I'm sure the thousands of women who were slipped one then raped say the
same thing the next day.
That's by far the worst drug ever invented.
If taken in moderation, yes.
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 12:10 PM, Ras Tafari wrote:
>
> roofies are benign?
>
> are you kidding me?
>
> On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 10:27 AM, Michael
> Dinowitz wrote:
>>
>> As I've never smoked it, I'll have to rely on the experience of
>> others. But then again, I've ne
roofies are benign?
are you kidding me?
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 10:27 AM, Michael
Dinowitz wrote:
>
> As I've never smoked it, I'll have to rely on the experience of
> others. But then again, I've never taken a dangerous dosage of Tylenol
> either.
> Cocaine isn't dangerous as long as it's in mo
As I've never smoked it, I'll have to rely on the experience of
others. But then again, I've never taken a dangerous dosage of Tylenol
either.
Cocaine isn't dangerous as long as it's in moderation. Same with
speed. Roofies are totally benign. I guess that if you go down the
list, most illegal drug
>
> Yes, there's abuse but is it at the same level as crack? At the same
> level as weed? At the same level as whippets?
I think you should take weed out of your comparison. It's benign.
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Go ahead. She's wearing a lab coat. :)
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 11:56 PM, Dana wrote:
>
> I'm telling Judith
>
> /me flees
>
> On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 9:45 PM, Michael
> Dinowitz wrote:
>>
>> But what if she's cute? ;)
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 11:29 PM, Scott Stroz wrote:
>>>
>>> And they
I'm telling Judith
/me flees
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 9:45 PM, Michael
Dinowitz wrote:
>
> But what if she's cute? ;)
>
> On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 11:29 PM, Scott Stroz wrote:
>>
>> And they will have to wear lab coats with 'Do Not Eat' stamped all over it.
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 11:28
But what if she's cute? ;)
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 11:29 PM, Scott Stroz wrote:
>
> And they will have to wear lab coats with 'Do Not Eat' stamped all over it.
>
> On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 11:28 PM, Michael
> Dinowitz wrote:
>>
>> Yes, a surgeon general's warning that using a doctor may be hazardo
And they will have to wear lab coats with 'Do Not Eat' stamped all over it.
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 11:28 PM, Michael
Dinowitz wrote:
>
> Yes, a surgeon general's warning that using a doctor may be hazardous
> to your health. :)
>
> On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 11:25 PM, Scott Stroz wrote:
>>
>> But p
Yes, a surgeon general's warning that using a doctor may be hazardous
to your health. :)
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 11:25 PM, Scott Stroz wrote:
>
> But people can die from doctors, so we must protect them. All doctors
> will be required to wear labels stating that they may cause harm is
> used impr
But people can die from doctors, so we must protect them. All doctors
will be required to wear labels stating that they may cause harm is
used improperly.
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 11:20 PM, Michael
Dinowitz wrote:
>
> On one hand we have licensed physicians who do not, as a normal course
> of even
On one hand we have licensed physicians who do not, as a normal course
of events, improperly prescribe pills. The percentage of doctors who
improperly prescribe drugs can probably be in the single digits
percentage wise and if you look at the total prescriptions given in a
year, the improperly pre
oh balls. Doctors are an easy target. Factoids like this are the
reason for pain management clinics -- many doctors are afraid of
prescribing controlled substances at all, because there is no telling
when someone will accuse them of being a pill doctor. It's pretty hard
to tell how much pain medic
>
> Those doctors were poisoning him.
suXors they failed
>
>
> Check the facts. Prescription medication abuse is an enormous problem in
> this country.
>
>
>
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On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 4:48 PM, Michael Dinowitz <
mdino...@houseoffusion.com> wrote:
>
> doctors who have not been convicted of giving overdoses to patents =
> criminals who poison millions with drugs?
> I mean, that is what your saying, right? They are equal?
> What scale are you talking about
huh ... I read labels. I also read inserts. Don't recall ever reading
one that said that the damage caused by acetaminophen is exponentially
worse when you have alcohol in your system. Ever. It is true
nonetheless. Don't remember ever reading one saying that megadoses
were possible when using a co
If it weren't for drug dealers my secondary school education would have been
intolerable. -_-
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 7:48 PM, Michael Dinowitz <
mdino...@houseoffusion.com> wrote:
>
> doctors who have not been convicted of giving overdoses to patents =
> criminals who poison millions with drug
doctors who have not been convicted of giving overdoses to patents =
criminals who poison millions with drugs?
I mean, that is what your saying, right? They are equal?
What scale are you talking about here? I know people loved Michael but
I don't count him as equaling several million people.
On T
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 8:33 AM, Maureen wrote:
>
> Let a company pay a bonus, or let the government dare to spend money
> on the environment or health care, and all you hear are the screams
> from the talk show hosts and their minions. But the government can
> toss fifty million dollars away
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 11:33 AM, Maureen wrote:
>
> Let a company pay a bonus, or let the government dare to spend money
> on the environment or health care, and all you hear are the screams
> from the talk show hosts and their minions. But the government can
> toss fifty million dollars away
I think the common misconception that gets people into trouble is that they
think OTC = harmless. Not all of these people are stupid.they just
aren't aware of the real dangers.
Education is the answer, and that goes beyond a simple warning label.
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 10:56 AM, Scott Stroz
I personally am fine with going after these narco-terrorists.
It's not their job, but their tactics, that need to be fought tooth and
nail.
They are not nice people.
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 11:45 AM, Maureen wrote:
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> If you think the US isn't wasting huge sums of money on this so-called
> d
We're talking about 2 different things here. Money for the war on
drugs (or whatever euphemism the current administration is using) is
one thing and a reward is another. Money is assigned to specific
projects, governments, or whatever. It's all earmarked (except for
that black ops stuff). Rewards
I guess a person to watch over us all to make sure we don't do anything stupid?
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 11:55 AM, G Money wrote:
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> On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 10:49 AM, Maureen wrote:
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>> I have at least 10 bottles of pills in this house that contain
>> acetaminophen. None of them have anythi
Yet, oddly enough, the water coming out of my tap does not say the same thing.
Each package will tell you how much acetominophen is in each dose. Its
up to you to keep track of how much you take.
If you don't think any OTC medicine can kill you because its not
labeled as such, guess what..you ar
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 10:49 AM, Maureen wrote:
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> I have at least 10 bottles of pills in this house that contain
> acetaminophen. None of them have anything on the label or on the
> sheet that came from the pharmacy that indicates that it could kill
> me. So what label are you reading?
Ev
Right, and where does that little snippet show us that people are not stupid?
Its because stupid people take cold pills AND another full dose of tylenol.
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 11:47 AM, Casey
Dougall wrote:
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> On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 11:45 AM, Scott Stroz wrote:
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>> Tylenol only kills pe
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