RE: Why should we believe him now.

2004-11-09 Thread Ken Ketsdever
-Community Subject: Re: Why should we believe him now. It's amazing to me that you think his statement was a totaly acceptable joke but I mention of the Patriot Act and I'm public enemy #1. you get a grip. --- dana tierney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think you're venting xenophobic hostility

Re: Why should we believe him now.

2004-11-09 Thread Gruss Gott
Sam wrote: Bin Laden said something like: I'll attack states that support Bush. 1.) As much as you'd like to think that Mr. Bush is a burly super hero that makes villains quake in their boots and shoots frickin' laser beams from his eyes, real life is not a comic book. This is what Bin Laden

Re: Why should we believe him now.

2004-11-09 Thread Jerry Johnson
Or in the language of the Red Sox Nation, he's your daddy. Jerry Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/09/04 10:28AM snip If you can't joke about Bin Laden then your his victim. ~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Gold

Re: Why should we believe him now.

2004-11-09 Thread Ray Champagne
No, it's he's your Papi Same difference. At 10:27 AM 11/9/2004, you wrote: Or in the language of the Red Sox Nation, he's your daddy. Jerry Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/09/04 10:28AM snip If you can't joke about Bin Laden then your his victim.

Re: Why should we believe him now.

2004-11-09 Thread dana tierney
I don't defend the remark, but I think Sam's reaction is over the top. Especially since he makes it so clear that he thinks the man coming to take you away is a *good* thing. Like the Guardian article. It was a joke. Possible a bad joke. Possibly an offensive joke. But a joke. Pssst Larry: *you*

Re: Why should we believe him now.

2004-11-09 Thread Larry C. Lyons
last I looked, I may be on the line, and possibly over it. larry On Tue, 9 Nov 2004 09:11:47 -0700, dana tierney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't defend the remark, but I think Sam's reaction is over the top. Especially since he makes it so clear that he thinks the man coming to take you away

Re: Why should we believe him now.

2004-11-09 Thread dana tierney
really? I thought the Mason Dixon line ran E-W across Maryland? Something else I don't have time to research right now. Gotta go. Will look this up later if you dont On Tue, 9 Nov 2004 11:32:03 -0500, Larry C. Lyons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: last I looked, I may be on the line, and possibly over

Re: Why should we believe him now.

2004-11-09 Thread dana tierney
http://geography.about.com/library/weekly/aa041999.htm I'm not obsessive or anything :) Dana On Tue, 9 Nov 2004 09:35:46 -0700, dana tierney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: really? I thought the Mason Dixon line ran E-W across Maryland? Something else I don't have time to research right now. Gotta

Re: Why should we believe him now.

2004-11-09 Thread William Bowen
2.) You and I were having this discussion and I mentioned that, if you were right, New York was safe. Others started chiming in that they were safe too. I said that the South wasn't and someone joked, who cares. It was a joke! I was one of those that chimed in. about Washington (DC and the

Re: Why should we believe him now.

2004-11-09 Thread Larry C. Lyons
It helps if you're a self-professed immigrant. I think that really upsets him over my effrontery that I would actually dare criticize his hero. larry On Tue, 9 Nov 2004 09:47:52 -0800, William Bowen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2.) You and I were having this discussion and I mentioned that, if you

Re: Why should we believe him now.

2004-11-09 Thread Sam Morris
Thank You. At least someone cares about our fellow citizens :) --- Kevin Graeme [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For what it's worth, I winced when I read Larry's comment. -Kevin __ Do you Yahoo!? Check out the new Yahoo! Front Page.

Re: Why should we believe him now.

2004-11-09 Thread Howie Hamlin
I have no idea how *anyone* could have taken Larry's comment about the south seriously. I took it as the south put GW back in office so, screw 'em. It may have sounded worse than he meant it - it's not easy to translate sarcasm into a black and white email. --- On Tuesday, November 09, 2004

Re: Why should we believe him now.

2004-11-09 Thread Sam Morris
Well since we're backpedaling: http://webster.commnet.edu/grammar/grammarlogs3/grammarlogs499.htm Generally, we capitalize the word state only when it appears after a state's name, as in We will travel to Washington State this summer. (But make sure that your reader won't confuse your intentions

Re: Why should we believe him now.

2004-11-09 Thread Sam Morris
There was over 100 messages in this thread. You left no references so I had no idea what you were talking about. Makes it even worse hearing you say good riddance about your family. If we were talking about a natural disaster like an earthqauke or a hurricane iwould understand. But we were

Re: Why should we believe him now.

2004-11-09 Thread dana tierney
oh geez Sam, I am really trying hard to assume you you are really offended here and be tolerant here, but come *on*. The links you post here commonly contain all *sorts* of loaded language. Let's start with the Ann Coulter article that said all journalists were whores. If you want to play the

Re: Why should we believe him now.

2004-11-09 Thread Kevin Graeme
I winced, but I knew it was a joke. Part of it is because the same flip remark went through my own mind, but as a bleeding heart liberal I'm obviously required to deplore such things were they serious. My perception though is that Larry is even more liberal than I am, which is why I was able to

Re: Why should we believe him now.

2004-11-09 Thread Howie Hamlin
Ann Coulter is a looney. So is John Ashcroft. Hold on, there's a knock at my door. Be right back... --- On Tuesday, November 09, 2004 2:05 PM, dana tierney scribed: --- oh geez Sam, I am really trying hard to assume you you are really offended here and be tolerant here, but come *on*.

Re: Why should we believe him now.

2004-11-09 Thread Marlon Moyer
My heart swells with pride when I realize that I'm the one who started this thread. It's kind of like having a child, you put it out there for the world to see and you hope that you've given it enough basis that the thread will live long and prosper. On Tue, 9 Nov 2004 10:43:53 -0800 (PST), Sam

Re: Why should we believe him now.

2004-11-09 Thread Gruss Gott
Sam wrote: and we capitalize States when we say things like We're returning to the States after twenty years in Europe. So you're agreeing that Bin Laden made no claim to attack States that voted for Bush? Or you disagree? What is it that you think he meant?

Re: Why should we believe him now.

2004-11-09 Thread Howie Hamlin
There's been enough fertilizer for it to prosper into eternity :) --- On Tuesday, November 09, 2004 2:13 PM, Marlon Moyer scribed: --- My heart swells with pride when I realize that I'm the one who started this thread. It's kind of like having a child, you put it out there for the world to

Re: Why should we believe him now.

2004-11-09 Thread dana tierney
:) I mean :) just look at the argument over whether bin Laden meant state or State. That alone... well, all I can say is that Bill Clinton would be proud. You hear that Sam? You're starting to sound like Bill Clinton! LOL. Let it not be said I don't know how to hurt a guy :) Dana On Tue, 9

Re: Why should we believe him now.

2004-11-09 Thread Tony Weeg
mason dixon is about 10 minutes from where i sit right now... right around the del/md line. tw On Tue, 9 Nov 2004 14:19:39 -0500, Howie Hamlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's been enough fertilizer for it to prosper into eternity :) --- On Tuesday, November 09, 2004 2:13 PM, Marlon Moyer

Re: Why should we believe him now.

2004-11-09 Thread Sam Morris
I'll give you credit, you do try so hard. The theory is he wasn't talking about the United States as a whole. He was referring to the individual states. But I will add I do not know what he meant. I'm just passing along expert analysis. --- Gruss Gott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sam wrote:

Re: Why should we believe him now.

2004-11-09 Thread Sam Morris
Not even close to the same. It's Gruss that's trying to change what the meaning of state is :) --- dana tierney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: :) I mean :) just look at the argument over whether bin Laden meant state or State. That alone... well, all I can say is that Bill Clinton would

Re: Why should we believe him now.

2004-11-09 Thread G
Perhaps the vagueness was intentional, leaving open the possibility for each person to believe that which inflicts the most fear on them? Americans: He meant MY home state! Non-Americans: He meant my country! I'll give you credit, you do try so hard. The theory is he wasn't talking about

Re: Why should we believe him now.

2004-11-09 Thread Gruss Gott
Sam wrote: But I will add I do not know what he meant. I'm just passing along expert analysis. Good, then we can count you no longer saying things like: Bin Laden said something like: I'll attack states that support Bush. ~|

Re: Why should we believe him now.

2004-11-09 Thread Sam Morris
I was retracing the thread. Come on now stop playing. You too funny :) --- Gruss Gott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sam wrote: But I will add I do not know what he meant. I'm just passing along expert analysis. Good, then we can count you no longer saying things like: Bin Laden said

Re: Why should we believe him now.

2004-11-09 Thread Gruss Gott
Brian wrote: Perhaps the vagueness was intentional, leaving open the possibility for each person to believe that which inflicts the most fear on them? Americans: He meant MY home state! Non-Americans: He meant my country! could be ... although does this violate Occam's razor?

Re: Why should we believe him now.

2004-11-09 Thread dana tierney
true but... neither of you speaks arabic. You are both citing people who do. I don't know that the matter can be resolved. Dana On Tue, 9 Nov 2004 14:30:52 -0600, Gruss Gott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brian wrote: Perhaps the vagueness was intentional, leaving open the possibility for each

Re: Why should we believe him now.

2004-11-09 Thread Gruss Gott
The only person that could resolve it would be Bin Laden. On Tue, 9 Nov 2004 13:35:12 -0700, dana tierney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: true but... neither of you speaks arabic. You are both citing people who do. I don't know that the matter can be resolved. Dana On Tue, 9 Nov 2004

Re: Why should we believe him now.

2004-11-08 Thread Sam Morris
So you wouldn't mind if an Islamo-Fascist madman brutally murdered over 50 million people because they didn't vote the way you wanted? That’s why we voted Bush, to stop people like you. Since your not an American citizen and you support terrorism watch out for the Patriot Act. I think you're now

Re: Why should we believe him now.

2004-11-08 Thread Jerry Johnson
Holy crap. Did you just threaten someone with deportation and torture under the Patriot Act because of something he said? If that is why you voted for Bush, you are exactly what scares the crap out of me, and keeps me up at night. *shiver* Jerry Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/08/04 12:39PM

Re: Why should we believe him now.

2004-11-08 Thread Larry C. Lyons
I've seen some twisted logic before, but where the fuck did you get this piece of obnoxious shit. Go ahead telephone DHS. I dare you. After that I'll have so much fun in suiing your sorry pathetic but that you'll be working for me for the rest of your unnatural life. Be my guest. And to quote

Re: Why should we believe him now.

2004-11-08 Thread Larry C. Lyons
It neo-facist wannabies that really give this country a bad name. Consider this monkey boy, I chose to come here, it was not some accident of birth. I also choose to keep a connection with where I was born. Can you say the same? btw it was Virginia Tech not West Virginia. On Mon, 8 Nov 2004

Re: Why should we believe him now.

2004-11-08 Thread Sam Morris
Answer the question weasel boy! (hehe I'm pretending I'm in jr high so we can communicate better:) So you wouldn't mind if an Islamo-Fascist madman brutally murdered over 50 million people because they didn't vote the way you wanted? Can you say the same? Now you're saying everyone born in

Re: Why should we believe him now.

2004-11-08 Thread Marlon Moyer
Waiting to cut out the deadwood. Waiting to clean up the city. Waiting to follow the worms. Waiting to put on a black shirt. Waiting to weed out the weaklings. Waiting to smash in their windows And kick in their doors. Waiting for the final solution To strengthen the strain. Waiting to follow the

RE: Why should we believe him now.

2004-11-08 Thread John Stanley
now, whenever I see a post by sam, I am gonna picture marching hammers. -Original Message- From: Marlon Moyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 1:19 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Why should we believe him now. Waiting to cut out the deadwood. Waiting to clean

Re: Why should we believe him now.

2004-11-08 Thread Larry C. Lyons
make the call. I'd love to talk with the DHS. You threatened to do it so now either do so or back off. On Mon, 8 Nov 2004 10:18:10 -0800 (PST), Sam Morris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Answer the question weasel boy! (hehe I'm pretending I'm in jr high so we can communicate better:) So you

RE: Why should we believe him now.

2004-11-08 Thread Ken Ketsdever
Hey if you two can't show a little respect in your disagreements take them off line. Personal attacks name calling and expletives just don't belong here. Confidentiality Notice: This message including any attachments is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain

Re: Why should we believe him now.

2004-11-08 Thread Marlon Moyer
1:19 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Why should we believe him now. Waiting to cut out the deadwood. Waiting to clean up the city. Waiting to follow the worms. Waiting to put on a black shirt. Waiting to weed out the weaklings. Waiting to smash in their windows And kick in their doors

Re: Why should we believe him now.

2004-11-08 Thread Sam Morris
I never threatened to call. I just planted the thought that there could be a knock on the door at anytime. :) Still no response to my question? Shall I mark you down as a yes? -sm --- Larry C. Lyons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: make the call. I'd love to talk with the DHS. You threatened to do

Re: Why should we believe him now.

2004-11-08 Thread Sam Morris
Yes, very funny. --- Marlon Moyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Funny, I picture him as the judge :) On Mon, 8 Nov 2004 13:21:57 -0500, John Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: now, whenever I see a post by sam, I am gonna picture marching hammers.

Re: Why should we believe him now.

2004-11-08 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Since your not an American citizen and you support terrorism watch out for the Patriot Act. I think you're now eligible for and free extended vacation to Cuba. that is a pretty explicit threat. So call. On Mon, 8 Nov 2004 10:30:24 -0800 (PST), Sam Morris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I never

Re: Why should we believe him now.

2004-11-08 Thread Larry C. Lyons
I have not been threatening anyone on this list. I show respect to others when its reciprocated. I show contempt where its deserved. And that person is more than deserving of it. On Mon, 8 Nov 2004 10:17:00 -0800, Ken Ketsdever [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey if you two can't show a little respect

RE: Why should we believe him now.

2004-11-08 Thread Angel Stewart
*waves hands at Ken* Sssh...this is good.. We have monkey boy and weasel boy... And someone's going to be calling the DHS or whathave you. I'm having a tough day, don't spoil this bit of entertainment! *munches on popcorn* You Tell him Larry! Yeah! *cheers from sideline* Go get him SAM!!

RE: Why should we believe him now.

2004-11-08 Thread Ken Ketsdever
Is that popcorn or kettlecorn? -Original Message- From: Angel Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 10:42 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Why should we believe him now. *waves hands at Ken* Sssh...this is good.. We have monkey boy and weasel boy

Re: Why should we believe him now.

2004-11-08 Thread Tony Weeg
tangorre... come put some STOMP on some asses!!! tw On Mon, 8 Nov 2004 14:42:29 -0400, Angel Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *waves hands at Ken* Sssh...this is good.. We have monkey boy and weasel boy... And someone's going to be calling the DHS or whathave you. I'm having a tough

Re: Why should we believe him now.

2004-11-08 Thread Sam Morris
It's not. The FBI's been known to monitor this list like the time someone mentioned killing the President. Killing half the country might be a red flag, even if you’re not pulling the trigger. Makes me wonder thought... How many other Kerry supporters agree that it's ok to murder off half the

RE: Why should we believe him now.

2004-11-08 Thread Angel Stewart
- From: Ken Ketsdever [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 2:47 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Why should we believe him now. Is that popcorn or kettlecorn? -Original Message- From: Angel Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 10:42 AM To: CF

RE: Why should we believe him now.

2004-11-08 Thread Tangorre, Michael
From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] tangorre... come put some STOMP on some asses!!! tw *grabs his club and heads from the cave Who's first? ~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Gold Sponsor -

RE: Why should we believe him now.

2004-11-08 Thread Tangorre, Michael
From: Sam Morris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] It's not. The FBI's been known to monitor this list like the time someone mentioned killing the President. Killing half the country might be a red flag, even if you're not pulling the trigger. Makes me wonder thought... How many other Kerry

Re: Why should we believe him now.

2004-11-08 Thread Tony Weeg
i think larry is a VERY nice person... need i say more? On Mon, 8 Nov 2004 13:55:51 -0500, Tangorre, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] tangorre... come put some STOMP on some asses!!! tw *grabs his club and heads from the cave Who's

Re: Why should we believe him now.

2004-11-08 Thread Larry C. Lyons
a serious question for you. Did it take a lot of hard work or was it natural talent that made you such a jerk? This discussion is pointless. Welcome to the great killfile club. On Mon, 8 Nov 2004 10:53:58 -0800 (PST), Sam Morris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's not. The FBI's been known to

Re: Why should we believe him now.

2004-11-08 Thread Gruss Gott
Sam Morris wrote: Since your not an American citizen and you support terrorism watch out for the Patriot Act. I think you're now eligible for and free extended vacation to Cuba. These are the exact type of threats that the Gestapo used against Germans, the KGB used against Russians, and

Re: Why should we believe him now.

2004-11-08 Thread Gruss Gott
Sam wrote: It's not. The FBI's been known to monitor this list Don't they monitor everything via Echelon? And why shouldn't they? It's for our own security ... The new Republican motto should be, We are too for States' rights - the state has all of the rights.

RE: Why should we believe him now.

2004-11-08 Thread Angel Stewart
Now Sam, Honestly. Did anyone actually say to kill half the US? *steups* Come on man. You inciting things. And you seem quite pleased that you have found a button to push. -Gel -Original Message- From: Sam Morris It's not. The FBI's been known to monitor this list like the time

Re: Why should we believe him now.

2004-11-08 Thread Sam Morris
After what happened on 9/11 you don't mind people saying, so what if Osama Bin Laden wipes out the South? You all attack me but not one word condemning what Larry said? --- Gruss Gott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sam Morris wrote: Since your not an American citizen and you support terrorism

RE: Why should we believe him now.

2004-11-08 Thread Sam Morris
Yes he did! Read the thread. --- Angel Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now Sam, Honestly. Did anyone actually say to kill half the US? *steups* Come on man. You inciting things. And you seem quite pleased that you have found a button to push. -Gel

RE: Why should we believe him now.

2004-11-08 Thread Angel Stewart
The two don't compare really. You're response was way out of line. Since 9/11 isn't an end to justify all means. -Gel -Original Message- From: Sam Morris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 3:24 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Why should we believe him now

RE: Why should we believe him now.

2004-11-08 Thread Sam Morris
Why do you say I incite things? What about all the comments stating Bush supports are morons and religious fanatics. And the comment: who'd care if we lost the South to terrorist attacks? I was trying to mind my own business but the attacks kept getting worse. --- Angel Stewart [EMAIL

RE: Why should we believe him now.

2004-11-08 Thread Tangorre, Michael
I was trying to mind my own business but the attacks kept getting worse. Same, take a glimpse at all your 9 million posts. It is very clear you just like to stir shit up. Gel is right, you found the button and keep on pushing it... Chill out.

RE: Why should we believe him now.

2004-11-08 Thread Angel Stewart
Ok Sam, I hear ya. But your response still wasn't called for. What your describing has been part of the political banter for a little while now. Respond to being called a moron, but don't respond by saying someone should call the FBI man. That crap is what caused the first mess...and you

RE: Why should we believe him now.

2004-11-08 Thread Harkins, Patrick
I guess there's a lot of anger and frustration in people's minds after this election that ends up coming out in personal attacks because it has nowhere else to go. Guess it's time for all to take a deep breath and start thinking about how to channel that anger into positive and constructive

RE: Why should we believe him now.

2004-11-08 Thread Ken Ketsdever
and a chance to taste real kettlecorn. -Original Message- From: Angel Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 10:55 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Why should we believe him now. Popcorn. I think we used to make kettlecorn, but it wasn't a kettle. It was an iron pot

RE: Why should we believe him now.

2004-11-08 Thread Sam Morris
I never said I'd call or suggested someone else should. I was actually just trying to point out the irony of what he was saying could get him in trouble for the same thing he's fighting against. Kind of like killing abortion doctors to save lives. Killing half of America is OK as long as he gets

Re: Why should we believe him now.

2004-11-08 Thread Jeffry Houser
I think I'd consider myself a Kerry supporter (although it makes little difference at this point). I don't see any benefit in killing half of the country. The statistic I heard is that 40% of people believe that Iraq had WMD or plans to make them. These are facts that have been proved to

Re: Why should we believe him now.

2004-11-08 Thread Tony Weeg
eloquently stated jeff. i wish sometimes i could bring my sensible mind to the forefront where i think those thoughts... and they could make it out to the keyboard. tw On Mon, 08 Nov 2004 15:12:34 -0500, Jeffry Houser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think I'd consider myself a Kerry supporter

RE: Why should we believe him now.

2004-11-08 Thread Ken Ketsdever
I think that French Legionaire is still lurking in the shadows from last week. -Original Message- From: Tangorre, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 10:56 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Why should we believe him now. From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: Why should we believe him now.

2004-11-08 Thread dana tierney
but isn't that a matter for people learning to better transmit information to this 40%? Granted, it may be hard if the reasoning goes: Rush Limbagh speaks only truth; Rush Limbaugh says this; therefore it is true -- which is a fine example of logical but erroneous reasoning Dana On Mon, 08 Nov

Re: Why should we believe him now.

2004-11-08 Thread dana tierney
Ken, I think being threatened with Guantanamo Bay over a joke would make me pretty angry too. Dana On Mon, 8 Nov 2004 13:35:52 -0500, Larry C. Lyons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have not been threatening anyone on this list. I show respect to others when its reciprocated. I show contempt

Re: Why should we believe him now.

2004-11-08 Thread dana tierney
You know... I think we are back on the neo-con slippery slope here. Last I looked, Osama was the one making threatshow do you make out that LArry supported him, by participating in the thread? Enquiring minds want to know :) On Mon, 8 Nov 2004 10:53:58 -0800 (PST), Sam Morris [EMAIL

Re: Why should we believe him now.

2004-11-08 Thread dana tierney
Stop hey What's that sound Everybody look what's goin down Step out of line, the man come and take you away Dana On Mon, 8 Nov 2004 13:04:51 -0600, Gruss Gott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sam Morris wrote: Since your not an American citizen and you support terrorism watch out for the

RE: Why should we believe him now.

2004-11-08 Thread Ken Ketsdever
tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 4:17 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Why should we believe him now. Stop hey What's that sound Everybody look what's goin down Step out of line, the man come and take you away Dana On Mon, 8 Nov 2004 13:04:51 -0600, Gruss Gott

Re: Why should we believe him now.

2004-11-08 Thread Sam Morris
Bin Laden said something like: “I'll attack states that support Bush.” Someone said NY's safe because they didn't support Bush. Someone else said the Washintons are also safe from attack but we might lose the South. (Meaning to an al Qaeda attack) Larry said something like Does anyone care if we

RE: Why should we believe him now.

2004-11-08 Thread Sam Morris
Those who hate you don't win unless you hate them, and then you destroy yourself. Richard M. Nixon --- Ken Ketsdever [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't I was kinda expecting a Bush rally to get out of hand, you two or three senior citizens wearing t-shirts that say support democracy. I had

RE: Why should we believe him now.

2004-11-08 Thread Ken Ketsdever
-Original Message- From: Sam Morris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 4:33 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Why should we believe him now. Those who hate you don't win unless you hate them, and then you destroy yourself. Richard M. Nixon --- Ken Ketsdever [EMAIL PROTECTED

RE: Why should we believe him now.

2004-11-08 Thread Ken Ketsdever
PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 4:32 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Why should we believe him now. Bin Laden said something like: I'll attack states that support Bush. Someone said NY's safe because they didn't support Bush. Someone else said the Washintons are also safe from attack

Re: Why should we believe him now.

2004-11-08 Thread dana tierney
Actually, New Mexico is in the Southwest and is a totally different proposition than say Mississippi. It has a very old and very distinct culture. For the record and the guys at Carnivore, I oppose all forms of violence. But Sam. Take a deep breath. Osama made the statement. Larry just said

RE: Why should we believe him now.

2004-11-08 Thread Sam Morris
Those who hate you don't win unless you hate them, and then you destroy yourself. Richard M. Nixon --- Ken Ketsdever [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sh'meul you can't get to me today! A friend and co-worker just got back from China and brought an original Propaganda poster and button of Mao

Re: Why should we believe him now.

2004-11-08 Thread Sam Morris
--- dana tierney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Larry just said that even if Osama followed through, it would not affect his life much. How would you like it if he said he doesn't care if we lose NM to terror? You're OK with that? There's no way that's acceptable and he should apologize.

RE: Why should we believe him now.

2004-11-08 Thread Angel Stewart
It was an offhanded comment and you took it, intentionally, way too seriously. -Gel -Original Message- From: Sam Morris Bin Laden said something like: “I'll attack states that support Bush.” Someone said NY's safe because they didn't support Bush. Someone else said the Washintons are

Re: Why should we believe him now.

2004-11-08 Thread dana tierney
I think you're venting xenophobic hostility, is what I think. I think it's entirely possible that you wish you could turn in the US citizens who made similar comments, and that you would applaud a measure that would allow you to do so. I think this thread woould give John Ashcroft a serious boner.

Re: Why should we believe him now.

2004-11-08 Thread dana tierney
By the way, what's the hilter rule exactly? I have a feeling I sould invoke it on myself. Do references to brown shirts count? Lol. It's a lovely evening in New Mexico. I'm outta here. Dana On Mon, 8 Nov 2004 18:03:12 -0700, dana tierney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think you're venting

RE: Why should we believe him now.

2004-11-08 Thread Ken Ketsdever
Oh crap now their trying to kill me. Ken -Original Message- From: dana tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 5:03 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Why should we believe him now. I think you're venting xenophobic hostility, is what I think. I think it's

Re: Why should we believe him now.

2004-11-08 Thread Sam Morris
It's amazing to me that you think his statement was a totaly acceptable joke but I mention of the Patriot Act and I'm public enemy #1. you get a grip. --- dana tierney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think you're venting xenophobic hostility, is what I think. I think it's entirely possible that

Re: Why should we believe him now.

2004-11-08 Thread Kevin Graeme
For what it's worth, I winced when I read Larry's comment. -Kevin It's amazing to me that you think his statement was a totaly acceptable joke but I mention of the Patriot Act and I'm public enemy #1. you get a grip. ~|

Re: Why should we believe him now.

2004-11-06 Thread Larry C. Lyons
and this is a problem? larry On Fri, 5 Nov 2004 14:24:11 -0600, Gruss Gott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: William wrote: YAY! So is Washington (DC and State!) We may lose The South ... ~| Special thanks to the CF Community

Re: Why should we believe him now.

2004-11-05 Thread Gruss Gott
Sam wrote: Your security is not in the hands of Kerry or Bush or al-Qaida. Your security is in your own hands and each state which does not harm our security will remain safe. I don't think that, in context, this means, any state that votes for Bush will be attacked. But, if it does, New

Re: Why should we believe him now.

2004-11-05 Thread William Bowen
YAY! So is Washington (DC and State!) But, if it does, New York is safe. -- -- will If my life weren't funny, it would just be true; and that would just be unacceptable. - Carrie Fisher ~| Special thanks to the CF

Re: Why should we believe him now.

2004-11-05 Thread Gruss Gott
William wrote: YAY! So is Washington (DC and State!) We may lose The South ... ~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Gold Sponsor - CFHosting.net http://www.cfhosting.net Message:

Re: Why should we believe him now.

2004-11-05 Thread William Bowen
To paraphrase another thread...Good riddance ;-) -- -- will If my life weren't funny, it would just be true; and that would just be unacceptable. - Carrie Fisher ~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Gold Sponsor -

Re: Why should we believe him now.

2004-11-05 Thread Gruss Gott
And the hill people in Wyoming ... On Fri, 5 Nov 2004 14:22:10 -0800, William Bowen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To paraphrase another thread...Good riddance ;-) -- -- will If my life weren't funny, it would just be true; and that would just be unacceptable. - Carrie Fisher

RE: Why should we believe him now.

2004-11-04 Thread Harkins, Patrick
gay marriage? abortion? ;- -Original Message- From: Gruss Gott Without a doubt! Which issues will Mr. Bush reach across the aisle on? Stem cell research? Iraq? Pork spending? Social Security? Health Care? Tax cuts? Foreign Policy? Mr. Bush took his slim win last election and

Re: Why should we believe him now.

2004-11-04 Thread Jerry Johnson
A common saying around Washington is that a during a president's first term they run for reelection, and the second term they run for the history books. He just very well might kick off the cloak of partisanship, shift slightly to the center (which is where he spent most of his life), and try

RE: Why should we believe him now.

2004-11-04 Thread Ken Ketsdever
brought America to her knees. -Original Message- From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 6:37 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Why should we believe him now. A common saying around Washington is that a during a president's first term they run

Re: Why should we believe him now.

2004-11-04 Thread G
How is American being brought to her knees ?? I can see saying I think this direction is wrong or This was a mistake that hurts my countrybut buffoon bringing America to her knees ? That's a statement that I just don't understand, and can't imagine you really believe it. He has

Re: Why should we believe him now.

2004-11-04 Thread Adam Haskell
i think that is more Kens speculation of what is going to happen within 4 years time...I beleive it has mainly to do with the world view of us and a Stockmarket crash which he predicts will happen...if i remeber for previous posts...I am not sure I particularly agree with the POV but I wouldn;t be

Re: Why should we believe him now.

2004-11-04 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
Although it's possible, I'd be less surprised to see him become even more unilateral (if that's possible) because now that he's been re-elected that's one less consequence to worry about. A common saying around Washington is that a during a president's first term they run for reelection, and

Re: Why should we believe him now.

2004-11-04 Thread Kevin Graeme
On Thu, 4 Nov 2004 09:02:55 -0600, G wrote: How is American being brought to her knees ?? With our armed forces all deployed, our brain trust outsourced, and our strategic planning being prayer now is the perfect time for a scissors attack by Canada and Mexico. Mark my words! -Kevin

Re: Why should we believe him now.

2004-11-04 Thread Jerry Johnson
He also has the ability because of the numbers in the House, the Senate, and soon on the Supreme Court. Not to mention the ability to pack the benches with his judicial appointees. He definitely has the ability and power to go either way. We will see soon how it all is going to play out over

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