Santa's relationship with the
> religious aspects of Christmas. I'd like to know.
>
> Yes, it is time for a Beer
>
>
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> From: Sam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 1:32 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re:
whoa, Ken joins the dark side ;)b
Dana
> I like the its doable argument. What country can't we take? Saudi's have
> little defense and lots of oil maybe we should consider them next. It would
> be in our best interest to have lots of cheap oil.
~~~
> -Original Message-
> From: Sam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 6:03 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: been a while since we talked politics
>
> Well the 25th might have been a pagan holiday but Santa came from
> Saint Nicholas of My
Well the 25th might have been a pagan holiday but Santa came from
Saint Nicholas of Myra, a 4th century bishop.
His day was December 6th but he's now celebrated on the 25th. Still
very Christian.
You could associate him with the Nordic God Odin, but then I wouldn't
celebrate him either :)
On 5/6
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I was never taught to believe in Santa. Santa is only universal to Christians.
I realize you don't want me to bring up religion but do you realize
Christmas is religious hol
Tony Blair is little more than Bush's bitch. Who acted on their own to join us
without being bought off, bribed, or coerced?
If you don't care what Sudan or Syria thinks what difference does central
Europe make?
Seems to me that the powers to be are:
USA
UK
France
Germany
Japan
Russia
Chin
> -Original Message-
> From: Sam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 4:32 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: been a while since we talked politics
>
> I was never taught to believe in Santa. Santa is only universal to
> Christians.
> I r
I was never taught to believe in Santa. Santa is only universal to Christians.
I realize you don't want me to bring up religion but do you realize
Christmas is religious holiday? Santa comes on Christmas? Doesn't he
represent the three Kings bringing gifts or something like that?
Time for a beer y
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Subject: Re: been a while since we talked politics
On 5/6/05, Ken Ketsdever wrote:
> Sam that is a crock of shit.
I'd rather talk about beer :)
> Hmm do we know there isn't a Santa Claus? Just because your mom and Dad said
> they were playing that role for
> Ken wrote:
> Who said anything about not getting involved in the first Gulf War. That was
> legitimate.
> Iraq invaded another country. At that time we would have been justified
> rolling into
> Baghdad and initiating a regime change. But not 10 years later. Not
Not to mention that we
Who said anything about not getting involved in the first Gulf War. That was
legitimate. Iraq invaded another country. At that time we would have been
justified rolling into Baghdad and initiating a regime change. But not 10
years later. Not when he had dismantled his programs.Not when
On 5/6/05, Ken Ketsdever wrote:
> Sam that is a crock of shit.
I'd rather talk about beer :)
> Hmm do we know there isn't a Santa Claus? Just because your mom and Dad said
> they were playing that role for the first 10 years of your life do we really
> know he doesn't exist? Maybe he doesn't
And you think that Al Qaeda would never have attacked anywhere in the Middle
East if we had just not invaded Iraq, is that it? That's just factually wrong.
Khobar Towers? The U.S.S. Cole? You think these events were flukes? Al Qaeda
was in the middle of a global onslaught against the U.S.
Sinc
Sam that is a crock of shit.
Even the Bush administration has admitted there are and probably where no WMDs.
How many scientists have were interrogated, err.. I mean interviewed? Nobody
has been able to come up with any evidence of a program beyond the dismantled
program of the early 1990's.
This clock is only right once a day:
http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/clocks/3110.html
- Jim
Gruss Gott wrote:
>>Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>OK, didn't you argue bicycle lanes are pork and a few weeks later say
>>it was a great idea to cut down on fuel use?
>>
>>
>
>1.) It appear
> Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> OK, didn't you argue bicycle lanes are pork and a few weeks later say
> it was a great idea to cut down on fuel use?
1.) It appears that you don't understand what Pork is, and while I'm
too lazy to explain it all to you, I'll point out that just because
something
> Robert wrote:
> You might not, but the South Koreans sure do, at least the ones who still
> remember
I have no doubt that Iraq may turn out as well as South Korea, meaning
it could become a thriving democracy with a robust economy that is
both a beacon and a model to its neighbors. In the Midd
OK, didn't you argue bicycle lanes are pork and a few weeks later say
it was a great idea to cut down on fuel use?
No matter what he does he's wrong in your eyes so who cares.
On 5/6/05, Gruss Gott wrote:
> Lordy, if you're still trying to argue that Mr. Bush has been a good
> steward of our coun
you honestly think they're going to respond? This is the
administration that still doesn't admit that Dick Cheney met with Ken
Lay five years ago, lol. And no, it doesn't, but since this is the
Prime Minister being briefed on "talks" and the Attorney-General is
quoted in a way that implies a meeti
The U.N. is not a global government. It has no authority over anything. It owns
no territory. It has no citizens. It possesses no resources other than what
it's members give it. At best it is a useful tool to help nations dialogue with
each other and solve problems. At worst it is a debating soc
I'll wait for the administrations response. It doesn't quote Bush.
Looks like Dearlove assessment but doesn't mention he spoke to in the
US.
On 5/6/05, Dana wrote:
> "Bush
> wanted to remove Saddam, through military action, justified by the
> conjunction of terrorism and WMD. But the intelligence
> Sam wrote:
> Or the glass is half full :)
>
> CBO: Deficit may fall below $400B
Lordy, if you're still trying to argue that Mr. Bush has been a good
steward of our country's resources, well, that ship sailed years ago.
Mr. Bush is one of the worst spenders in history and his current
economic a
"Bush
wanted to remove Saddam, through military action, justified by the
conjunction of terrorism and WMD. But the intelligence and facts were
being fixed around the policy.
--big snip--
It seemed clear that Bush had made up his mind to take
military action, even if the timing was not yet decided
You might not, but the South Koreans sure do, at least the ones who still
remember the war.
>G wrote:
>Oh, and in no way would I include "Korea" in your list of successful US
>endeavors
>
>
>>
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I'm sorry, Dana, I just do not see anywhere it the article where it says, "The
President knows this is all bullshit but he is going ahead anyway." Where is
that quote, exactly?
>Dana wrote:
>the fact is that the President of the United
>States stood up in from of the United Nations and made sta
I agree with your position, however, according to the memo obtained by
Greg Palast, posted above, he DID know it.
It's a bit long and dry, but it says that the evidence is being
created to justify the invasion. Before the invasion. This is not
really news to anyone who has read Bob Woodward's book
Or the glass is half full :)
CBO: Deficit may fall below $400B
http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story.asp?guid=%7BBABDE313%2D2D56%2D4DAA%2D9D76%2D8E82ADB9CF11%7D&siteid=mktw
Jobs growth surprisingly robust in April
http://www.forbes.com/newswire/2004/05/07/rtr1363551.html
Snow says U.S. on track
I've got a guess on that:
Because many people that are reaching the age where they are beginning to
engage in political discourse are either:
1) Children of the protest era or
2) Children of parents of the protest era.
Keep in mind though that many of these people had good reason to protest,
an
> Sam ;)
>
> I had a feeling we would hear from you on this. Gonna have to check
> the Washington Post article, but even assuming it's quoted accurately
> and that's all true, the fact is that the President of the United
> States stood up in from of the United Nations and made statements on
> behal
No, more like what people said about our involvement in WWI, WWII, and Korea.
Good thing we showed up when we did.
Why is it that some people can only remember events after 1960? Like there was
no history before Vietnam.
> Michael wrote:
> Twenty years from now we are all going to be saying w
Sam ;)
I had a feeling we would hear from you on this. Gonna have to check
the Washington Post article, but even assuming it's quoted accurately
and that's all true, the fact is that the President of the United
States stood up in from of the United Nations and made statements on
behalf of this co
I think it's a completely fair assessment to say that Al-Qaeda now views the
fight over Iraq as THE premier battle of their ideals vs. the free worlds.
This pre-occupation would certainly make it harder if not impossible to plan
another large scale attack on American soil. In that sense, Bush h
Hmmm do we know there were no WMD? Didn't I hear they might be in
Syria but it's too dangerous to check?
The war on terror seems to have paid off:
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/5/1/135511.shtml
Sunday, May 1, 2005 1:48 p.m. EDT
Wash. Post: Iraq War Kept U.S. Safe
In a stunning admissio
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> Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 11:05 AM
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>
> And if our reasons are so humanitarian why are we not in Darfur, hmm?
> Just pointing out the inconsistency.
&g
" look while in the Florida
classroom when he got the news.
M!ke
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Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 11:05 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: been a while since we talked politics
And if our reasons are so humanitarian why are we not i
And if our reasons are so humanitarian why are we not in Darfur, hmm?
Just pointing out the inconsistency.
Dana
> I can come up with three:
> WMD
> Terrorist ties
> Evil Dictator
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>>Twenty years from now we are all going to be saying what a good thing it was
>>that the U.S. kicked Saddam out of Iraq and helped Iraqi democracy to
>>flourish. I'm not concerned about polls saying that most people in the U.S.
>>and Europe think the war was not worth it. Most people can't see
> Robert wrote:
> Twenty years from now we are all going to be saying what a good thing it was
> that the U.S.
And those that can afford it will probably trying to move there
because much of this country will be broke; luckily though we'll be
gay marriage free.
Twenty years from now we are all going to be saying what a good thing it was
that the U.S. kicked Saddam out of Iraq and helped Iraqi democracy to flourish.
Like in the same way people now say how great a success America's involvement
in Vietnam was?
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