Re: Rush To Judgment on GW

2007-08-17 Thread Dinner
On 8/16/07, Yves Arsenault wrote: > > Wow.. I must have been asleep while typing > > I meant, hard to deny that the pollution we create is significant. > > I believe it is significant IMO > > Just wanted to clarify my comments.. I agree 100%- I can look out my window and see the effects o

Re: Rush To Judgment on GW

2007-08-16 Thread Yves Arsenault
> > From: Yves Arsenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 2:10 PM > > To: CF-Community > > Subject: Re: Rush To Judgment on GW > > > > I don't think clear cutting forests or replanting unatural ones is > > insignificant. There a

RE: Rush To Judgment on GW

2007-08-16 Thread Jim Davis
> -Original Message- > From: Yves Arsenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 2:10 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Rush To Judgment on GW > > I don't think clear cutting forests or replanting unatural ones is > insignifi

Re: Rush To Judgment on GW

2007-08-16 Thread Jerry Barnes
I like his point about making the data and methods more transparent. It is so easy to skew data when no one is looking over your shoulder. This goes for both sides of the argument. ~| Get the answers you are looking for on the Col

Re: Rush To Judgment on GW

2007-08-16 Thread Yves Arsenault
I just threw my 2 cents in... Here's my theory. When we identify something as being harmful, in general, we should work towards correcting it. Or doing things in a more preferable way Although I cannot prove (and don't care to) that greenhouse gases cause a temperature increase in our atmosp

Re: Rush To Judgment on GW

2007-08-16 Thread Russel Madere
But what are the affects to the CLIMATE? The effects on the environment are not insignificant, I accept that. Give me more than a politicized theory that greenhouse gasses are the cause of global warming. Again, I don't doubt warming, but I DO doubt human causation. My THEORY is that the hum

Re: Rush To Judgment on GW

2007-08-16 Thread Yves Arsenault
I don't think clear cutting forests or replanting unatural ones is insignificant. There are many examples... Has nothing to do with the warming of the atmosphere but I think it's pretty hard to deny the pollution we create is insignificant as well... Maybe not "as dramatic" as some make it ou

Re: Rush To Judgment on GW

2007-08-16 Thread Russel Madere
I don't doubt that the Earth is warming. I have not denied that the climate is changing. I do doubt the human causality theory. UNLIKE evolution, there is too much science (decrease in magnetic field and increase in solar radiation, cyclic warming of ocean currents) suggesting other causes fo

Re: Rush To Judgment on GW

2007-08-16 Thread Sam
Let me get this straight, if 1/50th of a degree suggests it's warmer, the world is ending. If the 1/50th suggest the 30's were hotter it's a statistical tie? By the way, did you read this? Page 2 headline in the Nov. 2, 1922 edition of The Washington Post: "Arctic Ocean Getting Warm; Seals Vanish

Rush To Judgment on GW

2007-08-16 Thread Gruss Gott
August 16, 2007, 11:02 am Global Warming Debate Overheats With Bad Numbers (The following is a guest post by The Wall Street Journal's Keith Winstein. Carl Bialik will be back tomorrow.) Did a blogger fix a calculation error in NASA's global-warming records, making 1934, and not 1998, the hottest