Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-27 Thread Sam
The 2% was a very generous estimate. The Gallop poll mentioned your polls and pointed out they were bogus. What else you got? . On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 1:10 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > you came up with a bullshit reason for that 2% remark, and put up a > completely irrelevant study as support

Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-27 Thread Larry C. Lyons
you came up with a bullshit reason for that 2% remark, and put up a completely irrelevant study as supporting evidence. So in other words its bullshit. On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 2:45 PM, Sam wrote: > > That's all you got? All the accusations of lying and that's what you > have? You can't admit tha

Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-27 Thread Larry C. Lyons
still a bolt to the brain is very fast. (Rewired a slaughterhouse once. Turned me off meat for a couple of days). On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 9:15 PM, Maureen wrote: > > Humanely? Have you ever seen a slaughter house? How do you humanely > butcher an animal. It's not like they give them twilight s

RE: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-27 Thread Eric Roberts
...@threeravensconsulting.com tel: 630-486-5255 fax: 630-310-8531 http://www.threeravensconsulting.com -Original Message- From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 11:25 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: You have to wonder about those against

RE: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-27 Thread Eric Roberts
er ow...@threeravensconsulting.com tel: 630-486-5255 fax: 630-310-8531 http://www.threeravensconsulting.com -Original Message- From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 11:19 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: You have to wonder about

RE: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-27 Thread Eric Roberts
-Original Message- From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 11:06 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage Good man :) On Oct 27, 2012 12:03 AM, "Judah McAuley" wrote: > > My suspicion wo

Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-26 Thread LRS Scout
Being scared isn't being in pain. On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 12:19 AM, Sam wrote: > > From what I read way back about Kosher killing of cattle was they > don't know it, they don't feel it and as the bleed out they get > sleepy. Very peaceful. The con is that all cattle know they're in a > slaughte

Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-26 Thread Sam
>From what I read way back about Kosher killing of cattle was they don't know it, they don't feel it and as the bleed out they get sleepy. Very peaceful. The con is that all cattle know they're in a slaughterhouse because they smell the death. I haven't looked into it anymore in fear of not liking

Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-26 Thread Judah McAuley
Some people like to get hogs drunk before slaughtering them. Pigs love to drink. Seems like a reasonable bit of fun for them in their final hours. Judah On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 9:05 PM, LRS Scout wrote: > > Agreed. > > I also like air pistons, widely used with cattle. Quick and painless. > > N

Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-26 Thread LRS Scout
Good man :) On Oct 27, 2012 12:03 AM, "Judah McAuley" wrote: > > My suspicion would be that it doesn't think in those terms, so no. > > I eat vegetables. That involves growing them and picking them. > I eat meat. That involves growing the animals and killing the animals. > > That's the way life

Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-26 Thread LRS Scout
---- > > From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com] > > Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 9:11 PM > > To: cf-community > > Subject: Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage > > > >

Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-26 Thread Judah McAuley
My suspicion would be that it doesn't think in those terms, so no. I eat vegetables. That involves growing them and picking them. I eat meat. That involves growing the animals and killing the animals. That's the way life works. Try to do it in as kind and thoughtful a way as you can. Judah On

Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-26 Thread Maureen
I wonder if the pig thinks having his throat slit is humane. On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 8:52 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > Yeah, actually, I find manual butchering by people who know what they > are doing pretty humane. I'm planning on taking further classes in it > next year. I have a neighbor who

Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-26 Thread Judah McAuley
> Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 9:11 PM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage > > > You know this because in your other life... > > . > > On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at

Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-26 Thread Sam
I killed a lot of fish and lobsters but no. I'm an animal lover. Love to play with them and eat them but need someone else to kill them out of my line of sight. . On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 10:52 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > Have you ever killed an animal like that Sam? Or even seen it in person?

RE: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-26 Thread Eric Roberts
-Original Message- From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 9:11 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage You know this because in your other life... . On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 10:01 PM, Eric Roberts

Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-26 Thread Sam
You know this because in your other life... . On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 10:01 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > Not quite...it's a very painful way to go > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldf

RE: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-26 Thread Eric Roberts
ssage- From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 8:25 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage Slit the throat and let them bleed out? A very peaceful way to go. . On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 9:15 PM, Maureen

Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-26 Thread Sam
Slit the throat and let them bleed out? A very peaceful way to go. . On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 9:15 PM, Maureen wrote: > > Humanely? Have you ever seen a slaughter house? How do you humanely > butcher an animal. It's not like they give them twilight sleep. > > You got some weird-ass ideas about

Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-26 Thread Maureen
Humanely? Have you ever seen a slaughter house? How do you humanely butcher an animal. It's not like they give them twilight sleep. You got some weird-ass ideas about how the world works. On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 5:53 PM, Sam wrote: > > Even if used for food you need to kill it humanly. > ~

Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-26 Thread Sam
Even if used for food you need to kill it humanly. . On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 5:58 PM, Maureen wrote: > > How about if you get off eating friend chicken or get all passionate over a > t-bone steak? > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusi

Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-26 Thread Maureen
How about if you get off eating friend chicken or get all passionate over a t-bone steak? On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 12:25 PM, Sam wrote: > > I didn't think they were separate laws. I guess my thought is if you > get off having sex with an animal that causes it to die you should > probably be rem

Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-26 Thread Scott Stroz
On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 3:25 PM, Sam wrote: > > I didn't think they were separate laws. I guess my thought is if you > get off having sex with an animal that causes it to die you should > probably be removed from society. As a safety precausion. > > I could get behind that. -- Scott Stroz ---

Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-26 Thread Cameron Childress
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIcx_rxTstc On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 4:25 PM, Sam wrote: > > > http://www.nonhumanrightsproject.org/2012/10/18/personhood-beyond-the-human-a-conference/ ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology no

Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-26 Thread Sam
http://www.nonhumanrightsproject.org/2012/10/18/personhood-beyond-the-human-a-conference/ . On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 3:25 PM, Maureen wrote: > > Yeah,,as long as a legal basis exists for the arrests, and not just trial > by media, A long as the accusations are valid, and not just fodder for >

Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-26 Thread Cameron Childress
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMNry4PE93Y On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 3:02 PM, Sam wrote: > I have an idea, lets start this discussion over again from the > beginning that would be so much fun. > > Then lets talk about the evil global warming starting with the Al Gore > movie. > > BTW, do you hear

Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-26 Thread Maureen
Yeah,,as long as a legal basis exists for the arrests, and not just trial by media, A long as the accusations are valid, and not just fodder for opposition campaigns. On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 12:19 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > There are many more important issues that law enforcement and judici

Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-26 Thread Sam
I didn't think they were separate laws. I guess my thought is if you get off having sex with an animal that causes it to die you should probably be removed from society. As a safety precausion. . On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 3:05 PM, Maureen wrote: > > Not necessary. I just don't feel that somethin

Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-26 Thread Jerry Barnes
"I think lots of things are gross, like the Kardasians and Jersey Shore." I have never watched either. I wouldn't know a Kardasian if she came in my office and took off her clothes in order to get my attention. From what I hear, I believe I would call these shows gross. "That doesn't mean I t

Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-26 Thread Maureen
Not necessary. I just don't feel that something should be illegal simply because someone things it is gross. I have vegan friends who think eating eggs or cheese is gross. Not a reason to outlaw it. If someone is abusing an animal, that would fall under laws against animal abuse. I see no nee

Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-26 Thread Sam
I have an idea, lets start this discussion over again from the beginning that would be so much fun. Then lets talk about the evil global warming starting with the Al Gore movie. BTW, do you hear that global warming official ended sixteen years ago? . On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 2:15 PM, Cameron Ch

Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-26 Thread Sam
So you are against all animal protection laws? . On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 2:47 PM, Maureen wrote: > > I think lots of things are gross, like the Kardasians and Jersey Shore. > That doesn't mean I think the government should outlaw it, and spend money > enforcing those laws. There are many more

Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-26 Thread Maureen
I think lots of things are gross, like the Kardasians and Jersey Shore. That doesn't mean I think the government should outlaw it, and spend money enforcing those laws. There are many more important issues that law enforcement and judicial funds could be used for. On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 8:57 AM

Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-26 Thread Sam
That's all you got? All the accusations of lying and that's what you have? You can't admit that I backed up everything I said and had sources to back it? . On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 2:25 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > In other words your typical bull shit. > > On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 11:26 AM, Sam

Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-26 Thread Maureen
The usual way around this when minors marry is to have the parents sign the marriage license. My parents had one of their worse fights ever because my Dad signed for me to marry without telling my Mother about it. On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 6:03 AM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > Is 'age of consent' the

Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-26 Thread Larry C. Lyons
In other words your typical bull shit. On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 11:26 AM, Sam wrote: > > 2% represents the number getting married. If 3-8 are LGBT than less > than 2% of the entire population would be getting married if allowed. > Not a number I found in a text book, just a wild number I pulled o

Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-26 Thread Cameron Childress
On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 11:17 AM, Sam wrote: > If you’re in a male same-sex marriage, it’s 50 percent more likely to > end in divorce than a heterosexual marriage.[...] > > Looks legit Who cares? Everyone should have the right to both divorce and marriage. It's not the government's job to "sav

Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-26 Thread Sam
Larry? You still there? . On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 11:17 AM, Sam wrote: > Google popped up this: > > http://www.uni-koeln.de/wiso-fak/fisoz/conference/papers/p_andersson.pdf > > If you’re in a male same-sex marriage, it’s 50 percent more likely to > end in divorce than a heterosexual marriage.

Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-26 Thread Jerry Barnes
"They probably would if they could talk. Are you saying that sex with animals constitutes abuse?" I don't know if it constitutes abuse. I certainly think it's gross. J - Some years down the pike, we’re going to get the real solution, which is going to be a combination of death panels and sal

Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-26 Thread Judah McAuley
On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 6:13 AM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > It might be. But if we can't call it one thing for heterosexuals and > something different for homosexuals. 'Separate but equal' simply does > not work. Apropos of nothing, but I read "heterosexuals" and "herpetosexuals" and was thinking: T

Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-26 Thread Scott Stroz
Sam - How am I wrong? Explain to me how it is not discriminatory to tell homosexual couples they are not allowed the same rights as heterosexual couples - solely based on the fact that they are gay. On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 11:21 AM, Sam wrote: > > And your still wrong but: dead horse -> kick > >

Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-26 Thread Sam
2% represents the number getting married. If 3-8 are LGBT than less than 2% of the entire population would be getting married if allowed. Not a number I found in a text book, just a wild number I pulled out of the air. . On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 10:56 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > That 2% figur

Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-26 Thread Sam
And your still wrong but: dead horse -> kick . On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 10:33 AM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > I never said it was 'racist'. I said denying rights to one group that > are enjoyed by another solely based on sexual preference is > discriminatory. > > > On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 9:59 AM, Sa

Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-26 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Its a really complex area of research. That has been some of the greatest problems with the Spitzer and the Regnerus studies, very badly defined definitions of sexuality. The very good studies I've seen use multiple measures. My own thought is that the distribution is more like a multi modal dist

Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-26 Thread Sam
Google popped up this: http://www.uni-koeln.de/wiso-fak/fisoz/conference/papers/p_andersson.pdf If you’re in a male same-sex marriage, it’s 50 percent more likely to end in divorce than a heterosexual marriage. If you’re in a female same-sex marriage, this figure rises to 167 percent. These sta

RE: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-26 Thread LRS Scout
> > > > > Three Ravens Consulting > > Eric Roberts > > Owner/Developer > > ow...@threeravensconsulting.com > > tel: 630-486-5255 > > fax: 630-310-8531 > > http://www.threeravensconsulting.com > > -----

RE: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-26 Thread Eric Roberts
g.com -Original Message- From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 8:01 AM To: cf-community Subject: RE: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage I'm sorry but have we e-met? I don't believe in any gun law at all, you know this right? Tha

Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-26 Thread LRS Scout
You're right here, a lot of people would lie, and some have unique self and world images that are gay, bi and poly. On Oct 26, 2012 10:56 AM, "Larry C. Lyons" wrote: > > That 2% figure (taken from the 2000 Census) has been shown to be much > in error, based on how the question was asked, the per

Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-26 Thread Larry C. Lyons
That 2% figure (taken from the 2000 Census) has been shown to be much in error, based on how the question was asked, the perceived lack of anonymity and so on. The National Gay and Lesbian Task Force, which used somewhat superior methodology, estimated three to eight percent of both sexes. Still

Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-26 Thread Larry C. Lyons
It also really depends on which flavour of Christianity. Much of the evangelical movement descends from Calvinism which is completely deterministic. In other words no matter what you do or believe, if saved you are saved, if damned, you could out do every saint in the book and you would still burn

Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-26 Thread Larry C. Lyons
how else do you get rid of the feathers easily. On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 12:19 AM, Maureen wrote: > > E.. But he is hardly the first person to kill a chicken. Grandma used > to wring their necks and throw them a pot of boiling water. > > On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 9:14 PM, Jerry Milo Johnson w

Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-26 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Actually its less according to the census, somewhere in the high to mid 40's. https://www.census.gov/hhes/socdemo/marriage/data/acs/index.html. But it depends on a variety of factors, age, which marriage - first, second, twelfth, state, religion etc., with percentages ranging from the low 20's th

Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-26 Thread Scott Stroz
I never said it was 'racist'. I said denying rights to one group that are enjoyed by another solely based on sexual preference is discriminatory. On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 9:59 AM, Sam wrote: > > You're mixing apples with oranges. Not wanting to redefine the > institution of marriage to accommoda

Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-26 Thread Larry C. Lyons
You said "Traditional families stay together longer and that's usually beneficial for the children. " How so, what is the source of your citation. All too often Sam you make similar claims which turn out not to be the case or all too often the opposite of what you claim. I'm calling you on this,

Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-26 Thread Larry C. Lyons
I liked what the comedian and musician Lynn Lavner said about the bible and homosexuality: "The Bible contains six admonishments to homosexuals and 362 admonishments to heterosexuals. That doesn't mean that God doesn't love heterosexuals. It's just that they need more supervision" On Thu, Oct 2

Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-26 Thread Sam
Either or. . On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 1:29 AM, LRS Scout wrote: > > Sam, being gay, nature or nurture? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusi

Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-26 Thread Sam
Cruelty to animals unless the animal is willing On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 11:52 PM, Maureen wrote: > > What possible reason exists for sex with animals being illegal? It's > definitely not my cup of tea, but if someone wants to make out with the > family goat why should I care? > > American cit

Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-26 Thread Sam
You're mixing apples with oranges. Not wanting to redefine the institution of marriage to accommodate 2% of the population does not make you racist. I'm amazed at how angry and hateful people are and they don't even realize who the real haters are. . On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 1:46 PM, Scott Stroz

Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-26 Thread Sam
Actually it's 28% . On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 2:42 PM, Maureen wrote: > > Over 50% of all marriages end in divorce. What the right currently claims > as traditional marriage covers only miniscule portion of actual marriages. > Even the ones that match their definition is skewed, but very few > h

RE: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-26 Thread LRS Scout
sulting.com > tel: 630-486-5255 > fax: 630-310-8531 > http://www.threeravensconsulting.com > > > -Original Message- > From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] > Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 8:13 AM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: You ha

RE: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-26 Thread Eric Roberts
: cf-community Subject: Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 8:13 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > "People are protesting for civil contracts - the name of those > contracts, according to the government, is 'marriage'" >

RE: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-26 Thread Eric Roberts
: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 8:01 AM To: cf-community Subject: RE: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage I'm sorry but have we e-met? I don't believe in any gun law at all, you know this right? That my criticisms of the N

RE: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-26 Thread Eric Roberts
ulting.com -Original Message- From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 8:03 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage Is 'age of consent' the same as being able to enter into

RE: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-26 Thread Eric Roberts
g.com -Original Message- From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 8:01 AM To: cf-community Subject: RE: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage I'm sorry but have we e-met? I don't believe in any gun

Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-26 Thread Scott Stroz
On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 8:13 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > "People are protesting for civil contracts - the name of those contracts, > according to the government, is 'marriage'" > > Ehhh. Semantics. > It might be. But if we can't call it one thing for heterosexuals and something different for ho

Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-26 Thread Scott Stroz
eveloper > ow...@threeravensconsulting.com > tel: 630-486-5255 > fax: 630-310-8531 > http://www.threeravensconsulting.com > > > -Original Message- > From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2012 1

RE: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-26 Thread LRS Scout
--- > > -Original Message- > From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] > Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 1:28 AM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage > > > But so am I right? > >

RE: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-26 Thread Eric Roberts
ulting.com -Original Message- From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 1:28 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage But so am I right? So is Jerry, and (god I hate this) so is Sam, and let's

Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-25 Thread LRS Scout
10-8531 > http://www.threeravensconsulting.com > > > -Original Message- > From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] > Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 1:12 AM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage > > >

RE: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-25 Thread Eric Roberts
- From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 1:12 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage You didn't say that, you said "on the right" which isn't the same thing man. On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 2

Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-25 Thread LRS Scout
> fax: 630-310-8531 > http://www.threeravensconsulting.com > > > -Original Message- > From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] > Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 12:32 AM > To: cf-community > Subject: RE: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage >

RE: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-25 Thread Eric Roberts
-Original Message- From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 12:36 AM To: cf-community Subject: RE: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage I think we need a constituional amendment as to the age of majority

RE: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-25 Thread Eric Roberts
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Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-25 Thread LRS Scout
sconsulting.com > tel: 630-486-5255 > fax: 630-310-8531 > http://www.threeravensconsulting.com > > > -Original Message- > From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] > Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 12:28 AM > To: cf-community

Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-25 Thread LRS Scout
30-310-8531 > http://www.threeravensconsulting.com > > > -Original Message- > From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] > Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 12:17 AM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: You have to wonder about those agains

RE: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-25 Thread Eric Roberts
: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 12:28 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage The thing I see most often with christians is their ignorance as to the words of Christ, when they strongly root their opposition to

RE: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-25 Thread Eric Roberts
AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage Persoanlly I wonder if that's a bad thing. I have serious doubts as to whether humans are by nature monogomous. On Oct 25, 2012 10:58 PM, "Sam" wrote: > > Really? > Marriage toda

Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-25 Thread LRS Scout
t; >> > >> Animals are not able to give consent... > >> > >> -Original Message- > >> From: Maureen [mailto:mamamaur...@gmail.com] > >> Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2012 10:52 PM > >> To: cf-commu

Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-25 Thread LRS Scout
...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: > > > > > Animals are not able to give consent... > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Maureen [mailto:mamamaur...@gmail.com] > > Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2012 10:52 PM > > To: cf-community > > Subject: Re: You ha

RE: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-25 Thread LRS Scout
Original Message- > From: Maureen [mailto:mamamaur...@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2012 10:52 PM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage > > > What possible reason exists for sex with animals being illegal? It'

RE: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-25 Thread LRS Scout
From: Jerry Barnes [mailto:critic...@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2012 7:13 PM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage > > > "People are protesting for civil contracts - the name of those contracts, > according to the

Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-25 Thread LRS Scout
Consent I'd say, abuse. Not cool. But then I've read some K9 women fans that say their dogs love it. Still, the idea makes me queasy. On Oct 25, 2012 11:52 PM, "Maureen" wrote: > > What possible reason exists for sex with animals being illegal? It's > definitely not my cup of tea, but if som

Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-25 Thread LRS Scout
Didn't Washington have something similar happen after the Mr. Hand thing? On Oct 25, 2012 11:36 PM, "Judah McAuley" wrote: > > For what it's worth, I believe that sex with animals is not illegal in > all 50 states. Looking it up (so you don't have to) it seems that it > is illegal in 37 states w

Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-25 Thread LRS Scout
My dad is in the middle of his second divorce. My marriage lasted longer than both of his combined. Traditional marriage exists to an extent, but it's on its last legs. On Oct 25, 2012 10:59 PM, "Jerry Barnes" wrote: > > "Traditional families stay together longer? Longer than what? Football >

RE: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-25 Thread LRS Scout
ulting.com > tel: 630-486-5255 > fax: 630-310-8531 > http://www.threeravensconsulting.com > > > -Original Message- > From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2012 11:37 AM > To: cf-community > Subjec

RE: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-25 Thread LRS Scout
ravensconsulting.com > tel: 630-486-5255 > fax: 630-310-8531 > http://www.threeravensconsulting.com > > > -Original Message- > From: Jerry Barnes [mailto:critic...@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2012 11:22 AM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re:

RE: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-25 Thread LRS Scout
hursday, October 25, 2012 11:11 AM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage > > > "Which is why these people's arguments are completely invalid." > > Why? > > > > "Sex with children is illegal becaus

Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-25 Thread LRS Scout
Which doesn't touch on people in open and poly relationships, and swingers. On Oct 25, 2012 10:58 PM, "Maureen" wrote: > > Over 50% of all marriages end in divorce. What the right currently claims > as traditional marriage covers only miniscule portion of actual marriages. > Even the ones that

Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-25 Thread LRS Scout
Sam, being gay, nature or nurture? On Oct 25, 2012 10:58 PM, "Sam" wrote: > > Not sure what your question is so I don't know how to answer. But, I > take it the Gallop poll was acceptable yet you mention sourceless bs. > > You too funny. > > . > > On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 1:33 PM, Larry C. Lyons

Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-25 Thread LRS Scout
The thing I see most often with christians is their ignorance as to the words of Christ, when they strongly root their opposition to things in the old testament. I John 2:7-8 and Galatians 5:14 They also ignore completely the ideas of free will, and to love all mankind, no matter there stations

Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-25 Thread LRS Scout
Persoanlly I wonder if that's a bad thing. I have serious doubts as to whether humans are by nature monogomous. On Oct 25, 2012 10:58 PM, "Sam" wrote: > > Really? > Marriage today is much more casual than it was in 60 years ago. That > doesn't apply to the individual marriage but the institutio

RE: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-25 Thread Eric Roberts
-Original Message- From: Maureen [mailto:mamamaur...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2012 11:03 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage They probably would if they could talk. Are you saying that sex with animals constitutes abuse

Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-25 Thread Maureen
E.. But he is hardly the first person to kill a chicken. Grandma used to wring their necks and throw them a pot of boiling water. On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 9:14 PM, Jerry Milo Johnson wrote: > > yes. I remember the case of one guy on Long Island, iirc, who killed > hundreds of chickens "that

Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-25 Thread Jerry Milo Johnson
t: Thursday, October 25, 2012 10:52 PM >> To: cf-community >> Subject: Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage >> >> >> What possible reason exists for sex with animals being illegal? >> > > > ~

Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-25 Thread Maureen
reen [mailto:mamamaur...@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2012 10:52 PM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage > > > What possible reason exists for sex with animals being illegal? > ~~

RE: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-25 Thread Eric Roberts
- From: Maureen [mailto:mamamaur...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2012 10:52 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage What possible reason exists for sex with animals being illegal? It's definitely not my cup of tea, but if so

RE: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-25 Thread Eric Roberts
-Original Message- From: Jerry Barnes [mailto:critic...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2012 7:13 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage "People are protesting for civil contracts - the name of those contracts, acco

Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-25 Thread Maureen
What possible reason exists for sex with animals being illegal? It's definitely not my cup of tea, but if someone wants to make out with the family goat why should I care? American citizens are in prison in Seattle for refusing to testify before a grand jury investigating activists, and people a

Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-25 Thread Judah McAuley
For what it's worth, I believe that sex with animals is not illegal in all 50 states. Looking it up (so you don't have to) it seems that it is illegal in 37 states with 20 being misdemeanors and 17 being felonies. I remember when there was a case in Oregon awhile back and people realized that ther

Re: You have to wonder about those against same sex marriage

2012-10-25 Thread Jerry Barnes
"Traditional families stay together longer? Longer than what? Football season? With the divorce rate for 1st time marriages is hovering around 50%..I cannot agree that the 'traditional family' stays together 'longer'." The divorce rate in our country was at 50% ten years ago. If I were to guess,

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