Re: Fusebox

2000-12-24 Thread John Foulds
Kind of. Not meant to be OO, but can be, in that you can include any java you want in a JSP page. John - Original Message - From: "Hal Helms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2000 11:02 PM Subject: RE: Fusebox > Michael, while Java is O

Seasons Greetings

2000-12-24 Thread AustralianAccommodation.com Pty. Ltd.
To all members of this CF users group and especially all those members who over the past 12 months have kindly assisted me with my CF questions I would like to extend seasons greetings to and wish you all a very healthy happy and prosperous 2001 Kind Regards Claude Raiola (Director) Australi

RE: Fusebox

2000-12-24 Thread Hal Helms
Michael, while Java is OO, JSP is really more a tag-based interface into Java's capabilities and not really meant to be an OO environment. Hal Helms == See www.ColdFusionTraining.com for info on "Best Practices with ColdFusion & Fusebox" training, Jan 22-25 == -Original Message- From: M

Re: RAND() SQL follow Up

2000-12-24 Thread Randy Zeitman
>I am dumbfounded how to use RAND() in a query statement. > >I have three columns for this example and I want the results randomly >sorted by the invcode column. That is, to randomly display how the >results are grouped. > >select invcode, price, years >from inventory >order by invcode, years DESC

RE: Fusebox

2000-12-24 Thread Michael She
At 05:39 PM 12/24/00 -0500, Hal Helms you wrote: >Yes, there's definitely that argument, Dave -- and it's a good one. Someone >once posted a question on the CFObjects forum, "If you're going to do OO, >what not just do Java?" I'm still waiting to hear a good answer. > >I think CFObjects can be a

Re: Using RAND in SQL

2000-12-24 Thread paul smith
My MySQL reference says it's a new capability as of 3.23.3 I also can't find any reference to it in my SQL7 or Access references. My guess is that it's a MySQL special function. You might have to create your own version using CF. For example, get out of breath when I have to reach for the pe

Using RAND in SQL

2000-12-24 Thread Randy Zeitman
I am dumbfounded how to use RAND() in a query statement. I have three columns for this example and I want the results randomly sorted by the invcode column. That is, to randomly display how the results are grouped. select invcode, price, years from inventory order by invcode, years DESC, price

Re: Happy Holidays

2000-12-24 Thread net_man
DITTO! - Original Message - From: "ibtoad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2000 5:17 PM Subject: Happy Holidays > Happy Holidays to everyone. > > Rich > > ~~ Structure your Cold

RE: OT Java letdown

2000-12-24 Thread Dave Watts
> Sure wish there were a client-side solution that works: > >on all major OS platforms >on all major browsers >integrates with JavaScript/Html/Dhtml > >allows things like a WSIWYG textarea that can be > referenced with JavaScript > > I don't want to do the entire client-side in

RE: Fusebox

2000-12-24 Thread Hal Helms
Yes, there's definitely that argument, Dave -- and it's a good one. Someone once posted a question on the CFObjects forum, "If you're going to do OO, what not just do Java?" I'm still waiting to hear a good answer. I think CFObjects can be a good bridge for folks moving from CFML to a true OO lan

RE: [Compress HTML output]

2000-12-24 Thread Zachary Bedell
> The overhead is most likely on the cache file writes > and cache reads. You just gave me an idea for a work > around that could be better and faster than all the > options we have just discussed. With both ISAPI and > CFX, the system has to compress each and every single > page output as it

RE: [Compress HTML output]

2000-12-24 Thread Zachary Bedell
> Ok I understand what has been done the > only thing I see as a problem is that > the tag is writing a file. Now without > locking or without a unique name > something bad is bound to happen. And > once you put locking on the writing of > files there is gonna be a slowdown. The filename for

Happy Holidays

2000-12-24 Thread ibtoad
Happy Holidays to everyone. Rich ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.h

RE: CFHTTP question

2000-12-24 Thread Dave Watts
> An Allaire consultant told us that our DNS was screwed up and > that it was our problem. Seems like you must be using our > internal DNS server, as well ;-) So we found out if you use > the actual IP address instead of the domain name, it usually > worked. In addition, we found the changing

Fw: Server Lock-Up

2000-12-24 Thread Mike Weaver
- Original Message - From: Mike Weaver To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2000 1:05 PM Subject: Server Lock-Up With all the talk recently about servers I have a newbie question. I had a situation occur where my pages were not recognized by the server and I get an error an

RE: Fusebox

2000-12-24 Thread Dave Watts
> I agree with Hal. The major problem with CFObjects is that you > have to tackle the additiona learning curve of an OO methodology, > *and* the documentation/sample-apps leave a lot to be desired for > a person new to the methodology. If CFO only had a like Hal hawking > it, it'd get a much w

RE: Do cached querries need to be locked?

2000-12-24 Thread Dave Watts
> I am assuming that if multiple pages hit the same cached > query, Cold Fusion internally handles it correctly without > me locking it?? But then again, I would have assumed it > would handle session variables correctly also if I didn't > subscribe to cf-talk:) > > I am thinking: what happen

Re: [Compress HTML output]

2000-12-24 Thread Xing Li
It's compressed at the server and decompressed at the client. Pretty sure all current browsers support both the deflate(an compression algorithm not the expanding part) and gzip. The decompression is very fast so the end user doesn't even see a difference. Xing > Could you please explain how thi

Re: [Compress HTML output]

2000-12-24 Thread Xing Li
> It's been running like a champ for us over the last three days on a > moderately high volume site. I can't imagine that the CFX overhead > would be that much higher than ISAPI overhead. CFX_GZip is a good > multi-threaded tag... The overhead is most likely on the cache file writes and cache

RE: [Compress HTML output]

2000-12-24 Thread Robert Everland III
Ok I understand what has been done the only thing I see as a problem is that the tag is writing a file. Now without locking or without a unique name something bad is bound to happen. And once you put locking on the writing of files there is gonna be a slowdown. I don't see this as a good solution

RE: [Compress HTML output]

2000-12-24 Thread Zachary Bedell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > Could you please explain how this compression works. > I keep seeing this as it is being compressed and > decompressed at the server, or is it being compressed > at the server and decompressed at the client. After CF is done creating all of the

RE: OT Java letdown

2000-12-24 Thread Robert Everland III
well as long as you have the newest sdk downloaded or installed on the machine you can be sure the program will work. There are instuctions in the info on how to make sure everything will be there. This is how it is in every language you use on the client side. With some programs you need to insta

Re: OT Java letdown

2000-12-24 Thread Dick Applebaum
At 12:40 PM -0500 12/24/00, Peter Theobald wrote: >I am excited about Java on the server side. I never really liked it >for the client side unless I need to do something very sophisticated >in the client. Javascript usually covers my client-side needs. > >But on the server side, it will be great

Re: OT Java letdown

2000-12-24 Thread Peter Theobald
I am excited about Java on the server side. I never really liked it for the client side unless I need to do something very sophisticated in the client. Javascript usually covers my client-side needs. But on the server side, it will be great to use CFML as a "glue" to put together the site, and

RE: Hosting Options

2000-12-24 Thread Peter Theobald
They were ASKED. They are just answering a subscribers request for hosting information. I see nothing wrong with that. This topic comes up twice a year or so. Even though I wasn't the one who asked, I have many hosted sites at with a couple of vendors, and I like to know what the latest opinions

RE: Recommended Chat Script

2000-12-24 Thread Hal Helms
that is a GREAT idea Hal Helms == See www.ColdFusionTraining.com for info on "Best Practices with ColdFusion & Fusebox" training, Jan 22-25 == -Original Message- From: Michael She [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2000 11:27 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Recommended Chat

Re: Recommended Chat Script

2000-12-24 Thread net_man
cf_chat is a great script - Original Message - From: "Michael She" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2000 11:27 AM Subject: Recommended Chat Script > Hi All, > > > I think Allaire's Developer Gallery should start allowing users to rate

Recommended Chat Script

2000-12-24 Thread Michael She
Hi All, I think Allaire's Developer Gallery should start allowing users to rate the different tags/scripts on the site. In anycase, can anyone recommend a good chat script? There are so many, and lots of them do not have demo. Preferrably the script is freeware. Thanks. -- Michael She I

RE: [Compress HTML output]

2000-12-24 Thread Robert Everland III
Could you please explain how this compression works. I keep seeing this as it is being compressed and decompressed at the server, or is it being compressed at the server and decompressed at the client. Bob Everland -Original Message- From: Zachary Bedell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent

RE: [Compress HTML output]

2000-12-24 Thread Zachary Bedell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > Not sure if this has been talked about in detail but with the > interest in dynamic html compression I will throw my two cents in. And donations of this sort are *always* appreciated! Thanks! ;-) > Why use a cfx tag with coldfusion to compress

RE: showing up as gray Java block

2000-12-24 Thread Paul Sinclair
Pan, Thanks for the help. Do you know which classes are needed for the cfgrid applet? Can the classes be placed anywhere in the URL space? Paul Sinclair > -Original Message- > From: pan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2000 5:02 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re:

Re: Good Cold Fusion Products

2000-12-24 Thread paul smith
At US$150 www.cfwebstore.com is hard to beat. Full-source, too. Email? Try iMS http://www.coolfusion.com/iMSDetails.htm best, paul At 06:02 PM 12/24/00 +1100, you wrote: >Does anyone know of any good cold fusion shopping carts or email = >applications that are out there that you would recomm

Re: Looking for low cost CF start host

2000-12-24 Thread AustralianAccommodation.com Pty. Ltd.
I have used interland and I left and went to intermedia at intermedia you have full control of all cf admin features remotely your entire site infrastructure from assigning you an ip address and website server space etc etc all happens when you complete the application form by the time you com

Re: OT Java letdown

2000-12-24 Thread Xing Li
Time to throw in my two cents. Java is the best platform, in my opinion, to develop software for mass deployment since you can "almost" have your hava apps run on "most" of the platforms. Mac OS X will bridge the mac gap in the Java race but I do agree that the "write once run anywhere" goal is n