: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 2:31 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF VS ASP <- let the trolling being
And you would think that Allaire/Macromedia would have something of the sort posted on
their website, but I could not find anything there
Rob
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mai
On Thursday, April 4, 2002, at 07:54 AM, Dave Watts wrote:
>
> There are lots of free CGI engines, in addition to ASP, which isn't
> really
> "free" anyway - you have to buy Windows!
>
Neither are the 3rd-party ASP add-ons free... those that give ASP
capabilities that are built-in to CF!
Dick
Well just a snippet from MM-site:
"The ColdFusion Trial Edition automatically converts to a
non-expiring, full-featured single user Developer Edition after the 30-day trial
period. The Developer Edition is currently available only for Windows and only in
English."
Not that crippled CFExpress-v
lk
Subject: RE: CF VS ASP <- let the trolling being
Well there has always been a CF Enterprise, but MM listens to us on the
group and when we whined and said there wasn't anything free for us to
develop in they offered us a development version of CF Enterprise. It allows
you to use CF Enter
nice day!
>
> Marianne
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Robert Everland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 9:15 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: CF VS ASP <- let the trolling being
>
>
> 1. PWS? What I don't get it. PWS is a
h less tags supported. so if
>you are not using the full tag list then this may be your bag
>
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>From: Robert Bailey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: 04 April 2002 16:46
>To: CF-Talk
>Subject: RE: CF VS ASP <- let the trolling being
>
>
>You
Yup I am.I meant to say CF Express!.good spot J - deliberate mistake
you understand!
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From: James Maltby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 04 April 2002 16:53
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF VS ASP <- let the trolling being
I think you're confusing your En
ssage-
From: Andy Ewings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 10:49 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF VS ASP <- let the trolling being
I think people are confusing the CF Enterprise with the 1 user license. CF
Enterprise is a version of CF server just with less tags suppor
I would imagine you could do this if your employees licensed their own
copies, but then who knows.
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Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 7:41 AM
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I know ab
wings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 16:49
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF VS ASP <- let the trolling being
I think people are confusing the CF Enterprise with the 1 user license. CF
Enterprise is a version of CF server just with less tags supported. so if
you are not u
, Marianne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 10:36 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF VS ASP <- let the trolling being
Pardon me! I hadn't heard of CF Enterprise. Hence the question "Does CF
have an equivalent?". If I ever get to code in CF again I'll
> I don't know what it is you don't get, but as a part-time
> telecommuter, I prefer not to have to rely on a remote server
> while developing.
So do I. Fortunately, I can do that with CF just as easily as with ASP. Both
work through IIS, and CF can use other web servers as well, such as Apac
April 2002 16:46
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF VS ASP <- let the trolling being
You can use CF Express, but it is a little limiting, but CF5 is free as
a 1 connection developmental server that you can install at home and
use, but only allowed 1 connection, which would be yourself. Well, I
gues
He is taliking about the Developers version...
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Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 9:34 AM
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Where is this Free version of coldfusion. are you referring to
ant to buy
licenses for cf for 1400 laptops (that would be insane). this could be a
problem solver.
Anthony Petruzzi
Webmaster
954-321-4703
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From: Andy Ewings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 10:42 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE:
ever visits it, lol
Rob
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 7:34 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF VS ASP <- let the trolling being
Where is this Free version of coldfusion. are you referring to CF
Express?
Anthony Petru
Or ya can download it :)
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From: Andy Ewings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 7:42 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF VS ASP <- let the trolling being
No - you can get a one single licence of CF server - in fact doesn't it
come
on the C
This is great! So do you have to use that in conjunction with CF Enterprise
as Robert mentioned?
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From: Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 10:21 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF VS ASP <- let the trolling being
CF equivalent to PWS is
No - you can get a one single licence of CF server - in fact doesn't it come
on the CD in the back of the Forta book?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 04 April 2002 16:34
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF VS ASP <- let the trolling being
Where is this Free version of coldfusion. are you referring to CF Express?
Anthony Petruzzi
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From: Daye, Marianne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 10:36 AM
To: CF-Talk
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ED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 9:15 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF VS ASP <- let the trolling being
1. PWS? What I don't get it. PWS is a web server. Sure ASP is built in,
but you can get a FREE Developer version of CF Enterprise and it can work in
conjunction with PWS. Where's
me,
> whether you like them or not, and it doesn't hurt to know how to user their
> technology.
>
> Marianne Daye
> Programmer/Analyst
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Thane Sherrington [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 3:09 PM
don't understand some of the issues you brought up here. Please explain
better.
Robert Everland III
Dixon Ticonderoga
Web Developer Extraordinaire
-Original Message-
From: Daye, Marianne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 9:11 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF VS ASP &
es you brought up here. Please explain
better.
Robert Everland III
Dixon Ticonderoga
Web Developer Extraordinaire
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From: Daye, Marianne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 9:11 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF VS ASP <- let the trolling being
I ha
't hurt to know how to user their
technology.
Marianne Daye
Programmer/Analyst
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From: Thane Sherrington [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 3:09 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF VS ASP <- let the trolling being
At 12:06 PM 4/3/02 -0800, D
There is also X-Platorm issues with ASP. Also, with MM and Allaire
merging and with Flash MX etc.. jeez we have an exciting time ahead.
N
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Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com
FAQ: http://www
At 12:06 PM 4/3/02 -0800, David Schmidt wrote:
>If he's willing to fork the bucks for the training. Grab hold, hang on, and
>take what you can learn.
A cold hearted approach (but I think wise) would be to get the training
paid for, and then move to a company that is more reasonable.
T
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6 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF VS ASP <- let the trolling being
Honestly,
If he's willing to pay you to cross train in ASP, why complain? I'm
assuming that you have already written a score of reports and tools
that
will all need to be translated into ASP and who would know the rep
ay, April 03, 2002 10:59 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: CF VS ASP <- let the trolling being
>
> gentlemen (and ladies) start your engines
>
> Anthony Petruzzi
> Webmaster
> 954-321-4703
> http://www.sheriff.org
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: R
If he's willing to fork the bucks for the training. Grab hold, hang on, and
take what you can learn.
__
Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more
resources for the community. http://www.
>
> Remeber, coders survive on being able to code. Managers survive on
> making good business decisions. You may well see a new manager in the
> not so distant future.
Yep, and then he'll be able to learn yet another language, thus broadening
his skill set, and increasing his market worth. :)
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Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:46 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF VS ASP <- let the trolling being
Honestly,
If he's willing to pay you to cross train in ASP, why complain? I'm
assuming that you have already written a score of reports and tools that
will all need to be tr
have a lot to learn, at least he bought me some books,
lol
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From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:47 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CF VS ASP <- let the trolling being
Have you pointed out the rapid development nature of
No arguments really, just close minded
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From: Neil Giarratana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:44 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF VS ASP <- let the trolling being
I'm sure a lot of people on this list are former ASP'ers. As o
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> Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 2:03 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: CF VS ASP
>
>
> OK, I have been looking for some things on the net that shows the pros
> and cons of CF as opposed to ASP. Knowing very little ASP myself, I do
> not know the many differences. A
cf-talk archives
On Wed, 3 Apr 2002, Robert Bailey wrote:
> OK, I have been looking for some things on the net that shows the pros
> and cons of CF as opposed to ASP. Knowing very little ASP myself, I do
> not know the many differences. Anyone know where I can find this? Pretty
> much looking f
Mandate, that and a disillusioned view of ASP
Rob
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From: Greg Jordan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:43 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF VS ASP <- let the trolling being
here is an article from pcmagazine comparing a slew of
alk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:44 AM
Subject: RE: CF VS ASP <- let the trolling being
> I'm sure a lot of people on this list are former ASP'ers. As one of them, I
> can tell you that life does not have to be that hard. Does he have
only matters when I am home alone
Rob
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From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:46 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF VS ASP <- let the trolling being
Gasp, sputter, cough.
Blasphemy! Heretic! Unbeliever!
Nothing is better t
.9860 x110
503.221.9865
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From: Robert Bailey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:29 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF VS ASP <- let the trolling being
Yeah, for sure, maybe some people need to get together and create that,
we use PHP here as
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:28 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CF VS ASP <- let the trolling being
and on that note you should tell your boss there is a new version of
CF
comingall that can be
said here is WOW...wait for it...can you say coool
;-)
Bryan Stevens
Here is a good URL that I came across:
http://hotwired.lycos.com/webmonkey/99/46/index1a.html?tw=programming
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From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:46 AM
To: CF-Talk
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G
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From: "Robert Bailey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:36 AM
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> But I have made up my mind that if they kill Cold Fusion here I
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From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:46 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF VS ASP <- let the trolling being
Gasp, sputter, cough.
Blasphemy! Heretic! Unbeliever!
Nothing is better than perl.
My fondest dream would be to be able to write perl (
y, April 03, 2002 2:37 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF VS ASP <- let the trolling being
But I have made up my mind that if they kill Cold Fusion here I am not
staying here any longer. It is mostly because we have a new manager that
seems to be such a die hard ASP fan who swears it is better th
they are
currently using CF. Have they not seen the NEO faq? Or is this one of
those "mandate" thingys?
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From: Robert Bailey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 1:13 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF VS ASP <- let the trolling being
Yeah
ng is better then PERL
anyways, heh
I think CF5 blows ASP out of the water, like comparing an old Married
with Children type of Dodge to a Corvette
Rob
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Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:14 AM
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Subject: R
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Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:28 AM
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and on that note you should tell your boss there is a new version of CF
comingall that can be
said here is WOW...wait for it...can you say coool
;-)
Bryan Steven
Forgot the link:
http://techupdate.zdnet.com/techupdate/stories/main/0,14179,2646052,00.html
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 12:14 PM
To: CF-Talk
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The only problem
5.0 higher marks, since it has better performace.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 12:14 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF VS ASP <- let the trolling being
The only problem you have is that you are going to find alot
Yeah, I have had the chance to play with Neo, very impressed, and I
thought that CF5 was a big step from 4, amazing
Rob
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From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:28 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CF VS ASP <- let the troll
age-
From: Robert Bailey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 2:13 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF VS ASP <- let the trolling being
Yeah, I thought this would get quite a bit of response, but I would
really like the information to share with my current employer who wants
t
Married
with Children type of Dodge to a Corvette
Rob
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:14 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF VS ASP <- let the trolling being
The only problem you have is that you are going to find alot
"Robert Bailey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:12 AM
Subject: RE: CF VS ASP <- let the trolling being
> Yeah, I thought this would get quite a bit of response, but I would
> really like the inform
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 2:13 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF VS ASP <- let the trolling being
Yeah, I thought this would get quite a bit of response, but I would
really like the information to share with my current employer who wants
to move from CF to ASP and get
Thanks Sam,
I have already taken a look at the swynk.com URL but it is a little
outdated as it refers to ASP 2.0
Rob
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From: Sam Roach [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:07 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF VS ASP
http://www.houseoffusion.com
o: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CF VS ASP
I don't have an exact answer, but there are some good things if you do the
following:
Go to Google.com search for "asp vs. cold fusion" and then reverse it "cold
fusion vs. asp" and you will find various articles and message threads.
Hop
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 10:59 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF VS ASP <- let the trolling being
gentlemen (and ladies) start your engines
Anthony Petruzzi
Webmaster
954-321-4703
http://www.sheriff.
;Robert Bailey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:02 AM
Subject: CF VS ASP
> OK, I have been looking for some things on the net that shows the pros
> and cons of CF as opposed to ASP. Knowing very little ASP m
actually let me take the first crack at this. if noone minds
Can you say ADO
Anthony Petruzzi
Webmaster
954-321-4703
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 1:59 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF VS ASP
I don't have an exact answer, but there are some good things if you do the
following:
Go to Google.com search for "asp vs. cold fusion" and then reverse it "cold
fusion vs. asp" and you will find various articles and message threads.
Hope this helps
Paul Giesenhagen
QuillDesign
http://www.quill
http://www.houseoffusion.com/hof/body/asp.cfm
http://www.swynk.com/friends/murphy/ironic_isnt_it.asp
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From: Robert Bailey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:03 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CF VS ASP
OK, I have been looking for some things on
gentlemen (and ladies) start your engines
Anthony Petruzzi
Webmaster
954-321-4703
http://www.sheriff.org
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From: Robert Bailey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 2:03 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CF VS ASP
OK, I have been looking for some things on
OK, I have been looking for some things on the net that shows the pros
and cons of CF as opposed to ASP. Knowing very little ASP myself, I do
not know the many differences. Anyone know where I can find this? Pretty
much looking for development time differences, execution speed, security
and scalab
Gives "X-Men" a whole new meaning.
Steve
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From: lsellers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2000 12:12 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: CF vs. ASP (was: What I want in CF (was: Learning ASP))
> Sorry, but couldn't resist
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> Sorry, but couldn't resist this...
>
> Which color Hulk, and which version of Superman?
The purple one? Allaire should get a cross-licensing ageement with
Marvel/DC. Be _interesting_to see superheroes pitchin
> Sorry, but couldn't resist this...
>
> Which color Hulk, and which version of Superman?
The purple one? Allaire should get a cross-licensing ageement with
Marvel/DC. Be _interesting_to see superheroes pitching the benefits of CF
over ASP. The Beast giving a monologue on CFWDDX. Deathlok talkin
choice for your Web
development environment."
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From: Jeremy Allen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2000 10:56 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: CF vs. ASP (was: What I want in CF (was: Learning ASP))
Hmmn I think the ASP vs CF thread i
Hmmn I think the ASP vs CF thread is one of the longest running
I have seen... anywhere :-P
Heremy
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From: Philip Arnold - ASP [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2000 9:17 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: CF vs. ASP (was: What I want in CF
> But you have to admit Superman would kick the Hulk's butt :-)
Sorry, but couldn't resist this...
Which color Hulk, and which version of Superman?
Which era of Hulk, which era of Superman... etc. etc.
Sorry, but now I'm getting REALLY geeky
Philip Arnold
ASP Multimedia Limited
T: +44 (0)20 86
But you have to admit Superman would kick the Hulk's butt :-)
At 05:53 PM 8/31/00 -0400, Steve Bernard wrote:
>Capability is only as relevant as your need. Instead of creating these
>un-ending threads that don't accomplish anything or answer anyquestions
>why not evaluate needs and resources,
Capability is only as relevant as your need. Instead of creating these
un-ending threads that don't accomplish anything or answer anyquestions
why not evaluate needs and resources, compare products based on those
criteria, and figure out which one fits YOUR needs. You'd think that enough
point
-
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> I like to
> think that CF is to ASP what VB is to C
Boy,
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> think that CF is to ASP what VB is to C
Boy, that is both a strong statement and an amazing example of
damning with faint praise :)
I don't know that much about ASP, not having had any chance to use
it, but I always thought it was pre
Voice
704.849.9291 Fax
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Date: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 8:32 PM
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>Me
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>Me
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>>
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>
> > -Original Message-
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> > Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 8:32 AM
> > To:
Me
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>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Gregory
> -Original Message-
> From: Gregory Harris [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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> Subject: Has the Apocalypse cometh? (Was RE: CF vs. ASP)
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> How many dedicated CF programmers are there still out t
High Performance Fortran? Sounds like Object Cobol :)
Steve
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Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 12:27 PM
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I'm lea
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.
.
So, you're surprised that if you upg
Jeremy,
Your rant produced a thought I hadn't had before. I wonder how competitive
ASP would be vs. CF if it were not free, but instead offered at roughly the
same price point?
I just finished up a post to a thread on an HWG list that someone started
by asking about free or low cost web/database
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y, August 30, 2000 12:42 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: CF vs. ASP (was: What I want in CF (was: Learning
> ASP))
>
>
>
> > > We upgraded all our ASP servers to Win2k with no problems. All
> > > of the code still worked afterwards with no kludging
> Depends entirely on the cheap plastic toy that will be known as CF5. ;->
>
> Should be able to tell fairly quickly with RC1 if the cf train is
derailing
> and it's time to jump to one of the other passing trains.
>
Which will probably appear sometime in 2nd qrt 2001.?
~Justin MacCarth
> > We upgraded all our ASP servers to Win2k with no problems. All of
> > the code still worked afterwards with no kludging whatsoever. It
> > truly was a painless upgrade.
The developers of ASP have the WIN32 source code , Allaire do not. What do
u expect???
~ Justin
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Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 1:18 PM
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Subject: Re: Has the Apocalypse cometh? (Was RE: CF vs. ASP)
I have taken to learning ASP but only to broaden the array of
I'm learning HPF (high performance fortran) but i wouldn't look at that as a
trend :)) wap for fun, and cf for work,
cos it might not be perfect for everything, but its good enough for most
things, In the UK at least CF is on an upward curve in terms of usage and in
fact wage bills
Stew
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From: Gregory Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 11:32 AM
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Subject: Has the Apocalypse cometh? (Was RE: CF vs. ASP)
In light of some of the issues regarding coldfusion as of late, I've already
taken up learning AS
, August 30, 2000 10:31 AM
Subject: Has the Apocalypse cometh? (Was RE: CF vs. ASP)
In light of some of the issues regarding coldfusion as of late, I've already
taken up learning ASP and WAP (the latter having no resemblance whatsoever
to a server language, but still handy for the resume),
> In light of some of the issues regarding coldfusion as of late,
> I've already taken up learning ASP and WAP (the latter having no
> resemblance whatsoever to a server language, but still handy for
> the resume), are many other once Cold-Fusion only people doing
> the same thing now? How many
> One rather major thing just came to mind which tilts the "cost"
> argument back in ASP's favor:
>
> We upgraded all our ASP servers to Win2k with no problems. All of
> the code still worked afterwards with no kludging whatsoever. It
> truly was a painless upgrade.
>
> Then we tried to upgrad
In light of some of the issues regarding coldfusion as of late, I've already taken up
learning ASP and WAP (the latter having no resemblance whatsoever to a server
language, but still handy for the resume), are many other once Cold-Fusion only people
doing the same thing now? How many dedicate
27;m developing
is fairly large and reasonably complex and CF has coped with it flawlessly
but I do appreciate that ASP will be the better tool in some cases.
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From: Zachary Bedell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 30 August 2000 16:03
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> > > > Well I can think of one REALLY good reason why ASP
> users might
> > > > deal without nifty things like built in HTTP, etc.
> where CF users
> > > > might insist on said functionality:
> > >
> > > > Cost of ASP: $0.00
> > > > Cost of
> Well another thing I found out this weekend reading through
> my ASP 3.0 book is two things I think are a little slow in CF.
> First is that you can program functions in ASP ie
>
> sub Calculate()
> code here
> end sub
>
> I dont know what the CF response to this is, perhaps the
> custom templ
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Subject: Re: CF vs ASP
Well another thing I found out this weekend reading through my ASP 3.0 book
is two things I think are a little slow in CF. First is that you can program
functions in ASP ie
sub Calculate()
code here
end sub
I dont know what t
a XML
data island right in ASP. There's a lot of WDDX stuff out there for CF right
now but I'd like to see XSL for CF become more easier and widespread.
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From: Bridget Corkery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 6:22 A
Another:
http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?body=body/asp
Joel
: I wrote on Friday to ask for some good resources or reasons why CF is a
: better application developer than ASP. Although I did receive some really
: good references, I didn't receive nearly as much of a response as I thought
http://www.asptoday.com/articles/2427.htm
Robert Everland III
Web Developer
Dixon Ticonderoga
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From: Bridget Corkery [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 9:23 AM
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Subject: CF vs ASP
I wrote on Friday to ask for
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