RE: CFMX performance improvements ?

2004-09-20 Thread Micha Schopman
I would not use xtree if I were you, .. xtree has some serious issues which are unresolvable in MSIE due to browser engine limits. It has to do with the amount of images xtree uses for rendering. I have a treeview available for the ones who need one. This is version 1, and version 2 currently is

Re: CFMX performance improvements ?

2004-09-17 Thread Charles Heizer
This looks really cool but very complicated ... Do you have any examples of this being used with coldfusion? That was the one thing I really liked about CFTree was that it was easy to deploy. Thanks, - Charles On Sep 15, 2004, at 4:28 PM, Brook Davies wrote: Have you tried using something

Re: CFMX performance improvements ?

2004-09-17 Thread Charles Heizer
I did look at CFMX 6.1 but I found a problem (BUG) with the way to handles values containing a comma. What happens is if a value contains a comma it places the value in under the right parent according to the Tree but it also creates a new root entry as well. - Charles On Sep 15, 2004, at 4:51

Re: CFMX performance improvements ?

2004-09-17 Thread Charles Heizer
What would you suggest? Thanks, - Charles On Sep 15, 2004, at 11:40 PM, Micha Schopman wrote: I strongly suggest not using Erik's treeview. It is not stable and contains some serious bugs which cannot be solved because they depend on buggy browser functionality. Micha Schopman Software

RE: CFMX performance improvements ?

2004-09-16 Thread Micha Schopman
I strongly suggest not using Erik's treeview. It is not stable and contains some serious bugs which cannot be solved because they depend on buggy browser functionality. Micha Schopman Software Engineer Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 ALAmersfoort Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388 KvK

CFMX performance improvements ?

2004-09-15 Thread Charles Heizer
Hello, I was wondering if someone could help me out, I'm running CFMX 6.0 update 3 on linux and I'm using CFTree to manipulate my OpenLDAP directory. My performance tuning questions are if/how can I speed-up the load times I have a test tree that displays 1500+ computer accounts under one of

Re: CFMX performance improvements ?

2004-09-15 Thread Brook Davies
Have you tried using something other than cftree. You could try http://webfx.eae.net/dhtml/xtree/... Brook At 04:11 PM 9/15/2004, you wrote: Hello, I was wondering if someone could help me out, I'm running CFMX 6.0 update 3 on linux and I'm using CFTree to manipulate my OpenLDAP directory. My

Re: CFMX performance improvements ?

2004-09-15 Thread Robert Munn
Hello, I was wondering if someone could help me out, I'm running CFMX 6.0 update 3 on linux and I'm using CFTree to manipulate my OpenLDAP directory. My performance tuning questions are if/how can I speed-up the load times I have a test tree that displays 1500+ computer accounts under one of

Re: CFMX performance improvements ?

2004-09-15 Thread Sean Corfield
On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 16:11:33 -0700, Charles Heizer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was wondering if someone could help me out, I'm running CFMX 6.0 update 3 on linux and I'm using CFTree to manipulate my OpenLDAP directory. My performance tuning questions are if/how can I speed-up the load times I

CFMX performance data MMC thingy

2004-02-06 Thread Douglas.Knudsen
Running CFMX on JRun, the J2EE way, on a winblows 2000 server box.I'm trying to pull the perf data via the performances MMC snap in for CFMX and get nada.I can see ColdFusion MX Server in the Performance object dropdown and I can see the list of coubnters, but I can't choose any of them.I see the

RE: CFMX performance data MMC thingy

2004-02-06 Thread Debbie Dickerson
://www.macromedia.com/support/coldfusion/ts/documents/metrics_logging.ht m http://www.macromedia.com/support/coldfusion/ts/documents/metrics_logging.h tm _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 11:26 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: CFMX performance data MMC thingy

RE: CFMX performance data MMC thingy

2004-02-06 Thread Douglas.Knudsen
' .Someone have suggestions?How does one load test their apps now using the J2EE version? Doug -Original Message- From: Debbie Dickerson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 11:39 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFMX performance data MMC thingy Performance monitor

RE: CFMX performance data MMC thingy

2004-02-06 Thread Burns, John
Dickerson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 11:39 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFMX performance data MMC thingy Performance monitor integration is not available in the J2EE configuration: http://livedocs.macromedia.com/coldfusion/6.1/htmldocs/basico24.htm http

RE: CFMX performance data MMC thingy

2004-02-06 Thread Douglas.Knudsen
Subject: RE: CFMX performance data MMC thingy thanks debbie.Teh tech note helped get something. But in the end this sucks!I can't use the fancy windows tool for perf monitoringmy event log is filled with the below errors, one entry every min or two 24x7 and the Perf Monitor MMC tool has CFMX

CFMX performance data MMC thingy

2004-02-05 Thread Douglas.Knudsen
Running CFMX on JRun, the J2EE way, on a winblows 2000 server box.I'm trying to pull the perf data via the performances MMC snap in for CFMX and get nada.I can see ColdFusion MX Server in the Performance object dropdown and I can see the list of coubnters, but I can't choose any of them.I see the

CFMX performance issue

2003-08-14 Thread Alan Ford
I've raised the size of the template cache to 400 and raised the running thread count to 200 (from 200 and 96 respectively). Today we had several serious overloads at peak time (22k hits / hour, 500 connections). Alan ~|

RE: CFMX performance issue

2003-08-14 Thread Tim Soslow
and that the code inside of the lock is as little and as fast as possible. -Tim -Original Message- From: Alan Ford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 11:35 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: CFMX performance issue I've been an avid reader of this and other lists for ages

CFMX performance issue

2003-08-14 Thread Alan Ford
What version of CFMX? Updater 3. It reports as - ColdFusion Server Enterprise 6,0,0,58500 Alan Ford ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription:

CFMX performance issue

2003-08-14 Thread Alan Ford
Template cache is in KBs. You sure you're not referring to cached queries? I don't think so. cfadmin for cfmx, page 2 caching. First item is 'Template cache size (number of templates)'. cached queries is also a number rather than an amount of memory - the number of queries to cache (max

CFMX performance issue

2003-08-14 Thread Alan Ford
but I think at the very least it shows that 200 simultaneous threads is massive overkill. Ok, already :-) Forget 200 - I've reset it to 96. Now, to everyone who is saying that 96 is too high my own experience of trying to keep the site running smoothly at all costs is that an SRR of 96 is

CFMX performance issue

2003-08-14 Thread Alan Ford
If you can, try increasing your trusted cache size first Mmmm - we don't use trusted cache as I find it a pain in the We have too many changes to employ that. We do have template caching. Now, I had this set to 200 files, which I think is more than the number of cfm / cfc files that we

CFMX performance issue

2003-08-14 Thread Alan Ford
I agree that your number of simultaneous threads is really high. I think that Ben Forta once recommended only 3 threads per CPU. That seems a little low for me. I would lower the threads to a reasonable level See my reply to Trey - I don't want to lower the SRR below 96 as I know it will

CFMX performance issue

2003-08-14 Thread Alan Ford
In any case, I would consider moving to 6.1 as it has the latest bug fixes. I'm sure we're all interested to see if your problem persists after that :) Me too! I wish I could just dive in and upgrade, but I suppose I really ought to put it on the dev server and run serious load tests. Boring

CFMX performance issue

2003-08-14 Thread Alan Ford
It also sounds as if youre approaching the limit of this configuration. Well, I agree with that, but my point is that we shouldn't be. We have one of these dual Xeon processors with hyper threading that makes it look and act like a quad processor. It has 1gb of ram and is using 625mb. The only

RE: CFMX performance issue

2003-08-14 Thread Stacy Young
: Monday, August 11, 2003 1:18 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: CFMX performance issue I've raised the size of the template cache to 400 and raised the running thread count to 200 (from 200 and 96 respectively). Today we had several serious overloads at peak time (22k hits / hour, 500 connections). Alan

CFMX performance issue

2003-08-14 Thread Alan Ford
It might well be that enough threads queue up waiting for locks that your system is overwhelmed... I'd really recommend upgrading to CFMX 6.1 as soon as you can. Hi Sean, I will push forward with 6.1 asap, but if the problem were with locks wouldn't I expect the thread trace to be saying

Re: CFMX performance issue

2003-08-14 Thread Sean A Corfield
On Monday, Aug 11, 2003, at 10:25 US/Pacific, Alan Ford wrote: We have loads with session scope, but I can't recall any that are anything other than short and sweet (I'll check the code). Note that there was a bug in CFMX where a lock on session scope actually behaved more like a lock on

RE: CFMX performance issue

2003-08-14 Thread Stacy Young
, 2003 4:36 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: CFMX performance issue What version of CFMX? Updater 3. It reports as - ColdFusion Server Enterprise 6,0,0,58500 Alan Ford ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid

RE: CFMX performance issue

2003-08-14 Thread Stacy Young
Hah. Well I'll be damned. CF5 was in kilobytes. Never thought to re-read the text. ;-) Stace -Original Message- From: Alan Ford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 7:27 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: CFMX performance issue Template cache is in KBs. You sure you're

CFMX performance issue

2003-08-14 Thread Alan Ford
This isn't a scientific assessment by any means but...any chance you can get RedSky in production? (6.1) - After a QA process of course ;) ...there's huge performance improvements in there... It's certainly something we're doing. I've asked a colleague to download it and put it on a dev server

CFMX performance issue

2003-08-14 Thread Alan Ford
If you can, try increasing your trusted cache size first. My second thoughts on this are - yes, I've upped it to 400 but my gut feel is that it will make no difference. We had this problem before we were using the template cache and since. We get the problem out of the blue, after it has been

CFMX performance issue

2003-08-14 Thread Alan Ford
This isn't a scientific assessment by any means but...any chance you can get RedSky in production? (6.1) - After a QA process of course ;) ...there's huge performance improvements in there... It's certainly something we're doing. I've asked a colleague to download it and put it on a dev server

CFMX performance issue

2003-08-14 Thread Alan Ford
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 12:43 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFMX performance issue Simultaneous threads in the CF admin is set to 400 !? The traffic on our CF servers is not as high as yours, although peak hours are close, and we've only got ours set to 10

RE: CFMX performance issue

2003-08-14 Thread Tim Blair
instead of cffile action=READ file=c:/somwhere/maybe/abc.txt variable=def you might try cfsavecontent var=defcfinclude template=/maybe/abc.txt/cfsavecontent Depending on whether or not the abc.txt file is dynamically created, the second suggestion might be slower (although not _as_ slow

RE: CFMX performance issue

2003-08-14 Thread Andre Turrettini
] Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 5:35 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: CFMX performance issue Dre, Alan be reasonable, lower your thread count man!! I have, I have - it's back to 96. The results of my trials and errors bear out what you say. At 96 it normally makes no difference, we run

CFMX performance issue

2003-08-14 Thread Alan Ford
What version of CFMX? Updater 3. It reports as - ColdFusion Server Enterprise 6,0,0,58500 Alan Ford ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription:

RE: CFMX performance issue

2003-08-14 Thread s. isaac dealey
If you can, try increasing your trusted cache size first. I'm not personally as knowledgeable about trusted cache as some other folks, but I've heard that it's optimal if possible for the trusted cache size to be larger than the sum size of your coldfusion templates on CF5 -- not sure how that

RE: CFMX performance issue

2003-08-14 Thread Andre Turrettini
] Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 3:54 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: CFMX performance issue It also sounds as if youre approaching the limit of this configuration. Well, I agree with that, but my point is that we shouldn't be. We have one of these dual Xeon processors with hyper threading that makes it look

RE: CFMX performance issue

2003-08-14 Thread Andre Turrettini
See, I've already forgotten about that 6.0 time lag. How quickly I forget. DRE -Original Message- From: Tim Blair [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 8:41 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFMX performance issue instead of cffile action=READ file=c:/somwhere

Re: CFMX performance issue

2003-08-14 Thread Sean A Corfield
On Tuesday, Aug 12, 2003, at 11:15 US/Pacific, Alan Ford wrote: I will push forward with 6.1 asap, but if the problem were with locks wouldn't I expect the thread trace to be saying 'waiting for lock' 60 times rather than 'waiting for template cache' 60 times? Since 6.1 provides a new

CFMX performance issue

2003-08-14 Thread Alan Ford
This sounds like a CFLOCK problem. Do you have any exclusive locks in your code? Hi Tim, (just in case anybody is wondering, I did not just repost all my replies to this thread). We do have many exclusive locks. We have one with app scope (we have only one module which writes app variables,

CFMX performance issue

2003-08-14 Thread Alan Ford
Since 6.1 provides a new compilation engine, there may well be changes in the template cache too. At least if you're on 6.1, you'll be assured that the locking is *not* causing your problem... I've now got 6.1 loaded on a dev server (only problem was that it bleated about MDAC not being a

CFMX performance issue

2003-08-14 Thread Alan Ford
Today was interesting. Our telecom provider decided they were going to do some work on our link to the internet and as a consequence the site was down for some time. When it came back all hell was let loose as people tried to do the enquiries and place orders that they'd been unable to do for a

RE: CFMX performance issue

2003-08-14 Thread Andre Turrettini
- From: Alan Ford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 1:19 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: CFMX performance issue but I think at the very least it shows that 200 simultaneous threads is massive overkill. Ok, already :-) Forget 200 - I've reset it to 96. Now, to everyone who

RE: CFMX performance issue

2003-08-14 Thread Stacy Young
I'm curious to see how ours would react under that setting hehe. Next time I'm in the lab I'll try and fire it up for kicks and see what happens. Stace -Original Message- From: Alan Ford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 3:19 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: CFMX

CFMX performance issue

2003-08-14 Thread Alan Ford
Dre, Alan be reasonable, lower your thread count man!! I have, I have - it's back to 96. The results of my trials and errors bear out what you say. At 96 it normally makes no difference, we run with 15 requests most of the time. When it does make a difference (and it's not when we get

CFMX performance issue

2003-08-14 Thread Alan Ford
Depending on whether or not the abc.txt file is dynamically created, the second suggestion might be slower (although not _as_ slow now with 6.1) due to compilation. All of the files we write to the legacy systems have a unique file name and dynamic content. It's basically a query based on

CFMX performance issue

2003-08-14 Thread Alan Ford
Hi Alan, this may interest you. Perhaps what youre seeing with the threading is described here in which case 6.1 may solve your problems. http://www.macromedia.com/support/coldfusion/ts/documents/cfmx_hang_issues. I've had a read and it doesn't sound like what we are getting. When I did the

RE: CFMX performance issue

2003-08-14 Thread Trey Rouse
Services - Rice University -Original Message- From: Stacy Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 12:43 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFMX performance issue Simultaneous threads in the CF admin is set to 400 !? The traffic on our CF servers is not as high

RE: CFMX performance issue

2003-08-14 Thread Tim Soslow
and important, but a different approach to locking may fix your problem (especially since I/O accesses take so long). -Tim -Original Message- From: Trey Rouse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 1:12 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFMX performance issue OK, setting

CFMX performance issue

2003-08-14 Thread Alan Ford
Simultaneous threads in the CF admin is set to 400 !? No, sorry, 200. I've experimented with 20 (which is what we had on CF5 and until we started having problems), various other settings, settling on 96 (problems diminish - most often it recovers without queuing threads) and as of today in

RE: CFMX performance issue

2003-08-14 Thread Ruggiero, Kevin D.
11, 2003 1:18 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: CFMX performance issue I've raised the size of the template cache to 400 and raised the running thread count to 200 (from 200 and 96 respectively). Today we had several serious overloads at peak time (22k hits / hour, 500 connections). Alan

CFMX performance issue

2003-08-14 Thread Alan Ford
It also sounds as if youre approaching the limit of this configuration. Well, I agree with that, but my point is that we shouldn't be. We have one of these dual Xeon processors with hyper threading that makes it look and act like a quad processor. It has 1gb of ram and is using 625mb. The only

CFMX performance issue

2003-08-14 Thread Alan Ford
If you can, try increasing your trusted cache size first Mmmm - we don't use trusted cache as I find it a pain in the We have too many changes to employ that. We do have template caching. Now, I had this set to 200 files, which I think is more than the number of cfm / cfc files that we

CFMX performance issue

2003-08-11 Thread Alan Ford
I've been an avid reader of this and other lists for ages, but this is the first time I've needed to ask something. A client has been having awful problems handling high loads. What happens is that out of the blue CFMX (which has been happily servicing the same level of load with c5 running

CFMX performance issue

2003-08-11 Thread Alan Ford
If you can, try increasing your trusted cache size first. My second thoughts on this are - yes, I've upped it to 400 but my gut feel is that it will make no difference. We had this problem before we were using the template cache and since. We get the problem out of the blue, after it has been

Re: CFMX performance issue

2003-08-11 Thread Calvin Ward
Subject: CFMX performance issue Hi Alan, this may interest you. Perhaps what youre seeing with the threading is described here in which case 6.1 may solve your problems. http://www.macromedia.com/support/coldfusion/ts/documents/cfmx_hang_issues . I've had a read and it doesn't sound like what

RE: CFMX performance issue

2003-08-11 Thread Stacy Young
Template cache is in KBs. You sure you're not referring to cached queries? Stace -Original Message- From: Alan Ford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 2:13 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: CFMX performance issue Simultaneous threads in the CF admin is set to 400

RE: CFMX performance issue

2003-08-11 Thread Andre Turrettini
Worth a try. Good luck. DRE -Original Message- From: Alan Ford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 11:16 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: CFMX performance issue Hi Alan, this may interest you. Perhaps what youre seeing with the threading is described here in which case 6.1

CFMX performance issue

2003-08-11 Thread Alan Ford
[I had a problem posting my reply to this - sorry if it's duplicated] OK, setting threads up higher isn't usually a smart thing. Hi Trey, Up to about 3 weeks ago I would have agreed with you, and we had our limit for Simiultaneous Running Requests (let's call it SRR) set to 20. As part of a

RE: CFMX performance issue

2003-08-10 Thread Andre Turrettini
luck! DRE -Original Message- From: Alan Ford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 6:44 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: CFMX performance issue I've been an avid reader of this and other lists for ages, but this is the first time I've needed to ask something. A client has been

RE: CFMX performance issue

2003-08-09 Thread Stacy Young
What version of CFMX? Stace -Original Message- From: Alan Ford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 8:44 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: CFMX performance issue I've been an avid reader of this and other lists for ages, but this is the first time I've needed to ask something

CFMX performance issue

2003-08-08 Thread Alan Ford
I've been an avid reader of this and other lists for ages, but this is the first time I've needed to ask something. A client has been having awful problems handling high loads. What happens is that out of the blue CFMX (which has been happily servicing the same level of load with c5 running

RE: CFMX Performance

2003-01-10 Thread Dave Watts
This is CFMX Pro, not any of the J2EE versions. That doesn't make any significant difference for your purposes, I don't think. According to what I have read, CFMX for J2EE has been optimized to perform better and scale better than CFMX Standalone -- especially for multiple-CPU

RE: CFMX Performance

2003-01-09 Thread Dave Watts
As we all know, CFMX compiles to Java Bytecode and gets cached this way. Therefore, CFMX should be considerably faster than CF5. However, a friend of mine did a very simple perfornance test using CFMX that had NO database interaction (just looping and finding prime numbers) and didn't

CFMX Performance

2003-01-09 Thread Fregas
As we all know, CFMX compiles to Java Bytecode and gets cached this way. Therefore, CFMX should be considerably faster than CF5. However, a friend of mine did a very simple perfornance test using CFMX that had NO database interaction (just looping and finding prime numbers) and didn't see

RE: CFMX Performance

2003-01-09 Thread Samuel Neff
Subject: CFMX Performance As we all know, CFMX compiles to Java Bytecode and gets cached this way. Therefore, CFMX should be considerably faster than CF5. However, a friend of mine did a very simple perfornance test using CFMX that had NO database interaction (just looping and finding

Re: CFMX Performance

2003-01-09 Thread Dick Applebaum
On Thursday, January 9, 2003, at 03:54 PM, Dave Watts wrote: This is CFMX Pro, not any of the J2EE versions. That doesn't make any significant difference for your purposes, I don't think. According to what I have read, CFMX for J2EE has been optimized to perform better and scale better

Re: CFMX Performance

2003-01-09 Thread Sean A Corfield
On Thursday, Jan 9, 2003, at 15:12 US/Pacific, Fregas wrote: As we all know, CFMX compiles to Java Bytecode and gets cached this way. Therefore, CFMX should be considerably faster than CF5. However, a friend of mine did a very simple perfornance test using CFMX that had NO database

Linux CFMX - performance issues jvm question

2002-11-14 Thread RBickham
We've got redhat 7.2 installed on Apache 1.3.22 and have having some performance issues with Cold Fusion MX (as soon and we get more than 3-4 users, everything tanks it. - 30 page render times) . Is anyone else having some of the same issues? Looking at the boxes, we have about 70 threads opened

RE: Linux CFMX - performance issues jvm question

2002-11-14 Thread Stacy Young
I think there's issues with the CFMX apache connector on 1.3.x , can u try Apache 2? Stace -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:RBickham;simplot.com] Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2002 1:03 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Linux CFMX - performance issues jvm question We've got

RE: Linux CFMX - performance issues jvm question

2002-11-14 Thread Christine Lawson
: Linux CFMX - performance issues jvm question I think there's issues with the CFMX apache connector on 1.3.x , can u try Apache 2? Stace -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:RBickham;simplot.com] Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2002 1:03 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Linux CFMX

RE: CFMX performance (was RE: CF MX)

2002-04-30 Thread Philip Arnold - ASP
Crap, can't people just answer a question on this list without flaming? I was just being honest, in a slightly sarcastic way... You have to admit though, NOTHING is essential - if you're happy with your current version, then stick with it, but you've got to remember that your competitors will

CFMX performance (was RE: CF MX)

2002-04-29 Thread Matt Liotta
Yup, you're right. Well in that case on with the ensuing flame war. First the caveats; CFMX has not been tuned for performance yet according to MM. With that aside, I have been working with Neo since the alpha days and have seen it change quite a bit since then. During that time I have learned

RE: CFMX performance (was RE: CF MX)

2002-04-29 Thread Matthew R. Small
Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 11:11 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: CFMX performance (was RE: CF MX) Yup, you're right. Well in that case on with the ensuing flame war. First the caveats; CFMX has not been tuned for performance yet according to MM. With that aside, I have

RE: CFMX performance (was RE: CF MX)

2002-04-29 Thread Timothy Heald
To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFMX performance (was RE: CF MX) So, in a small company like mine, where I have maybe 5 people using CF at once on an intranet application, (I also use CF from a shared host) there is no advantage to going to MX? I'm still waiting for a great reason to upgrade to CF 5.0

RE: CFMX performance (was RE: CF MX)

2002-04-29 Thread Jeffry Houser
At 11:29 AM 4/29/2002 -0400, you wrote: So, in a small company like mine, where I have maybe 5 people using CF at once on an intranet application, (I also use CF from a shared host) there is no advantage to going to MX? I'm still waiting for a great reason to upgrade to CF 5.0. Performance

RE: CFMX performance (was RE: CF MX)

2002-04-29 Thread Dave Watts
So, in a small company like mine, where I have maybe 5 people using CF at once on an intranet application, (I also use CF from a shared host) there is no advantage to going to MX? I'm still waiting for a great reason to upgrade to CF 5.0. Sure, there are lots of reasons! They're not

RE: CFMX performance (was RE: CF MX)

2002-04-29 Thread Jesse Noller
:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 11:39 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFMX performance (was RE: CF MX) So, in a small company like mine, where I have maybe 5 people using CF at once on an intranet application, (I also use CF from a shared host) there is no advantage

RE: CFMX performance (was RE: CF MX)

2002-04-29 Thread Matthew R. Small
. I wish it was, though. - Matt Small -Original Message- From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 11:33 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFMX performance (was RE: CF MX) At 11:29 AM 4/29/2002 -0400, you wrote: So, in a small company like mine, where I have

RE: CFMX performance (was RE: CF MX)

2002-04-29 Thread Bill Wheatley
Subject: RE: CFMX performance (was RE: CF MX) Also think about the performance that you're seeing right now. On first run, a CFMX page compiles. The pages are no longer interpreted on the fly. This means your initial First Hit is going to take a few seconds, but every request after this is going

Re[2]: CFMX performance (was RE: CF MX)

2002-04-29 Thread Critz
TH em and use em all the time :) TH Tim Heald TH ACP/CCFD :) TH Application Development TH www.schoollink.net -Original Message- From: Matthew R. Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 11:30 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFMX performance (was RE: CF MX) So

RE: CFMX performance (was RE: CF MX)

2002-04-29 Thread Matt Liotta
No performance advantage really. You should upgrade for the new features though. -Matt -Original Message- From: Matthew R. Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 8:30 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFMX performance (was RE: CF MX) So, in a small company like

RE: CFMX performance (was RE: CF MX)

2002-04-29 Thread Jesse Noller
that the performance is the same. It is *not*. -Original Message- From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 11:45 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFMX performance (was RE: CF MX) No performance advantage really. You should upgrade for the new features though

RE: CFMX performance (was RE: CF MX)

2002-04-29 Thread Matt Liotta
://www.evolt.org/article/Scalability_s_New_Meaning/21/23896/index.ht ml. -Matt -Original Message- From: Jesse Noller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 8:39 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFMX performance (was RE: CF MX) Also think about the performance that you're

RE: CFMX performance (was RE: CF MX)

2002-04-29 Thread BillyC
, April 29, 2002 10:45 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFMX performance (was RE: CF MX) No performance advantage really. You should upgrade for the new features though. -Matt -Original Message- From: Matthew R. Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 8:30 AM To: CF-Talk

RE: CFMX performance (was RE: CF MX)

2002-04-29 Thread Neil Clark - =TMM=
Well, it would be silly to make a program slower or indeed the same speed as CF5! I can see the headline now - New ColdFusion MX, now the same speed as CF5 - upgrade now! ;-) Neil Clark Team Macromedia http://www.macromedia.com/go/team Announcing Macromedia MX!! --

RE: CFMX performance (was RE: CF MX)

2002-04-29 Thread Mark A. Kruger - CFG
. - yeah yeah, I know it's not optimized. But let's be honest, as a rule, JSP is pretty doggy. -Original Message- From: Jesse Noller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 10:39 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFMX performance (was RE: CF MX) Also think about the performance

RE: CFMX performance (was RE: CF MX)

2002-04-29 Thread Mike Chambers
To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFMX performance (was RE: CF MX) So, in a small company like mine, where I have maybe 5 people using CF at once on an intranet application, (I also use CF from a shared host) there is no advantage to going to MX? I'm still waiting for a great reason to upgrade

RE: CFMX performance (was RE: CF MX)

2002-04-29 Thread Bill Wheatley
: Jesse Noller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 11:54 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFMX performance (was RE: CF MX) Matt, here is where you and I disagree alot: CF 5 performance than 4.5.1, hands down. Period. Hopefully, when we *release* CFMX, CFMX will be CF5

RE: CFMX performance (was RE: CF MX)

2002-04-29 Thread Dave Watts
Scalability is simply not the issue it was back in the day ... And even back in the day it wasn't the issue. Otherwise, writing your apps directly within API extensions would've been where the development happened, not scripting languages. Or maybe everyone would've been like STEVE GIBSON,

RE: CFMX performance (was RE: CF MX)

2002-04-29 Thread Matthew R. Small
with no sarcasm Which features are so essential that I need to upgrade? - Matt Small -Original Message- From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 11:45 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFMX performance (was RE: CF MX) No performance advantage really. You

RE: CFMX performance (was RE: CF MX)

2002-04-29 Thread Mark A. Kruger - CFG
, 2002 10:52 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFMX performance (was RE: CF MX) It's a great goal, but have a look at the other folks in the J2EE world who have been at it a long time. Again, on a single server, a properly built CF 5 application is going to out perform one built on top of JRun, WebSphere

RE: CFMX performance (was RE: CF MX)

2002-04-29 Thread Robert Everland
in defending CF. Robert Everland III Dixon Ticonderoga Web Developer Extraordinaire -Original Message- From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 12:03 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFMX performance (was RE: CF MX) Jesse, Yes, subsequent requests

RE: CFMX performance (was RE: CF MX)

2002-04-29 Thread Michael Dinowitz
11:45 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFMX performance (was RE: CF MX) No performance advantage really. You should upgrade for the new features though. -Matt -Original Message- From: Matthew R. Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 8:30 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE

RE: CFMX performance (was RE: CF MX)

2002-04-29 Thread Michael Dinowitz
-Original Message- From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 11:45 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFMX performance (was RE: CF MX) No performance advantage really. You should upgrade for the new features though. -Matt -Original Message- From

RE: CFMX performance (was RE: CF MX)

2002-04-29 Thread Philip Arnold - ASP
So, in a small company like mine, where I have maybe 5 people using CF at once on an intranet application, (I also use CF from a shared host) there is no advantage to going to MX? I'm still waiting for a great reason to upgrade to CF 5.0. Talking about the demo of MX that I saw Jeremy

RE: CFMX performance (was RE: CF MX)

2002-04-29 Thread Timothy Heald
PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 12:27 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFMX performance (was RE: CF MX) with no sarcasm Which features are so essential that I need to upgrade? - Matt Small -Original Message- From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 29

Re: CFMX performance (was RE: CF MX)

2002-04-29 Thread Bryan Stevenson
9:26 AM Subject: RE: CFMX performance (was RE: CF MX) with no sarcasm Which features are so essential that I need to upgrade? - Matt Small -Original Message- From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 11:45 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFMX

RE: CFMX performance (was RE: CF MX)

2002-04-29 Thread Matthew R. Small
How is this different than calling a CFM page via cfhttp? -Original Message- From: Mike Chambers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 12:01 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFMX performance (was RE: CF MX) ColdFusionMX components. create the code once and then call

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