This month the Brisbane CFUG turns "Lean, Green and Global"
Maximize the info, minimize the time. All members will be issued a
"GET ON WITH IT!" meter to ensure we don't use up our allocation of
time, space and oxygen. Energy Efficient Presentations!
Why? 'Cos we've got so much on this month!
F
1) Tim Buntel (in person at Web DU) said
"the *middle* of the year" (2007)
he stressed "middle" a couple of times.
jan --||--- dec
2) there's some rumour on a blog based on a scorpio poster that it
will be on the 8th of August. if you want the link
All this (below) and lots of news
so don't forget, RSVP *now* to make it into the prize draw...
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> This month the Brisbane CFUG turns "Lean, Green and Global"
> Maximize the info, minimize the time. All members will be issued a
> "GET ON WITH IT!" m
just a quick 5 second thought.
did you init() the java class after you created it with createObject?
maybe some of the calling code to the java might shed some light
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> Hi Guys
>
> Hoping you can help. I'm trying to save a bit of time and
> Version 8! They should have waited a year, could have ben released on
> 8/8/8
(for queenslanders)
I suppose no one here remembers (or read up about) the significance of
8/8/1988?
I'll give you a hint:
- "police state" / "civil disobediance" / "right to march" / "sacked
SEQEB linesmen"/ "pig
>> It will cost you $100 per tip Adam ;)
and Taco gets his money back!
seriously, I'd just like to give Taco a big "good on yer, mate"
- being pro-active and caring about his craft enough to cast it to
shark infested waters and see what happens. Trying to ensure his
clients get the best possib
> I am under the impression that Taco is female
God-damn boy-o, be careful what you say... He's a Queenlander!
(mumble mumble cockroaches mumble State Of Origin mumble Mexicans)
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now I know why...
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> Is he a singleton? How'd he get created if he doesn't have a factory method?
damn typical. I've been fruitlessly looking for an onServerStart()
method ever since CF7 for just this reason.
I'm obviously not worthy and therefore out of luck. Probably because
I'm a lapsed satanist.
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> you think microsoft is going to acquire adobe?
not a snow-flake's chance in hell. MS miss the opportunity to by MACR,
that would have made more sence. MS has their own plans with
Expressions, SilverLight, WPF, Onetouch deployment, etc.
> it's not about licensing, why can't they say to people "
> Silverlight is very very slick and a serious competitor to flex/flash.
> And not surprisingly you do it all in the one IDE - visual studio. So
> instaed of cf, java, Actionscript and flexbuilder its all the one
> language one ide.
hang on, to be fair.
most Java work is done in Eclipse (that I'
"I do wonder however if they had held everything in and did one big
announcement if this would have greater impact."
damned if they do and damned if they don't ..."can't please all the
ppl all the time" stuff
I have no probs with how Tim Buntel is running this and the work Ben
Forta is doing ri
I can think of a use.
you have a "mothership" app for your customers organisations (think
turnkey app, shrinkwrapped software)
The mothership has previously done all the hard yards in setting up
the database, persist layers, controllers, etc.
Part of it's viral marketing while being used is to
> I seem to recall that
> CF7 was released very quickly after the Release Candidate.
>
which reminds me of what tim buntel was saying on CF8 release dates at WebDU
"the _middle_ of the year middle"
(which blows my guess of august 8 out of the water)
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where the state of play is?
http://www.buntel.com/blog/index.cfm?mode=day&day=2&month=5&year=2007
"You know you want Scorpio when it ships, but you have a project that
you need to work on now. Oh, what to do? Fear not! We hav
this is why education of the decision makers is so important.
AFAIK, CF hasn't been used as course material in your standard Dip,
CertIV, GradDip or Bach courses with the exception of QANTM college
when CF6 came out.
very little chance of changing that. Heven knows I've tried. Ignorance
is bliss
> And I think getting it into Unis and TAFEs world be fantastic too - push out
> some CF graduates.
not so sure that's a good thing...
Q: how many students does it take to change a light bulb?
A: only one but it takes them three years to get it right...
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to emphesise Gary's credentials... he, his co-workers and the company
he works for have supported the CF community and CFUG here in Brisbane
for a long, long while.
In the past he has been willing to lead by example, to back his
committment and support with action. IMHO, his comments
Incorrect Robin
I (with support from Sarah Barry who still works there) was teaching
120+ students Coldfusion as part of the CertIV of IT at QANTM College,
Brisbane. ICAITB070A was the unit. Plus projects. For nearly 10
months.
from simple CFLOOP thru to MVC archetecture with CFC's.
of that, 2
CAVAET to bystanders:
these points relate back to 2003 - ancient history in IT and business
terms. Somewhere around there Macromedia Australia was going through
some "restructuring" which in part allowed Rocketboots and other
opportunities to come into being with many positive flow-on effects to
elease to back it up with.
** and I know there are others on list who could also benefit from knowing this.
On 5/31/07, Chris Velevitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> On 5/31/07, Barry Beattie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> 2) You don't like your code meshed with your layout? Are you serious on that
> statement, name one language that doesn't do this? At least with Coldfusion
> it is a little more readable tham PHP, JSP etc.
Andrew, that's very easy to do with coldfusion. At my last job that
was the whole idea: th
Damon's done a better job than me in compiling the list:
http://www.dcooper.org/blog/client/index.cfm?mode=entry&entry=DE3AF58D-4E22-1671-5BF5624974FF4EE9
if anyone finds ANZ news items on CF8, let us (and Damon) know, eh?
show your manager, show your mother. Heck, anyone will do.
Even Scott Ba
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it's more than that, Taco
number of simultaneous worker threads as well. I remember a really
good presentation on tweeking. I wish I could find it now (before
del.icio.us).
here's something to get you started:
http://www.google.com.au/search?q=ray+camden+coldfusion+performance
good luck
barry
"How about doing a poll of your members and find out how many
subscribe to cfaussie?"
at a rough count, approx 40% of the email list for the CFUG have thus
far "ping'ed" Matt's request.
if you're talking about regular meeting attendees (in person) then the
number is closer to 80%.
hope that he
there are approx 310 sign-ups that haven't pinged yet. Considering the
slow rate at the moment, is there a chance that unpinged number will
improve with the poll?
I can see a funny side to it, though. Perhaps I'm easily amused
On 6/4/07, Steve Onnis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Ok this is
> It brings a tear to my eye to see all these numbers - Solidarity
> Brothers!
"Soli-darity For-ever
"Buntel dressed up in tight leather
"Ben Forta left standing in the weather
"For Cold-Fusion makes us strong"
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Mark, yours is the 100th post on this thread but not the 100th person to "ping"
car-mawwnnn! we can d it!!!
"The CFAUSSIE-a-thon is hoping to raise 100 members from the dead."
"The total so far at the tally room comes in at 83 members" (someone
check this?)
"Email now, our inboxes are
On 6/11/07, Scott Barnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> http://onair.adobe.com/
>
> I'm guessing a local version coming to town near you? (but without the bus)
-
Proposed OnAIR Australian Tour Schedule
(AKA "I've Been Everywhere"
Avast me hearties!
With Captain Charile Arehart at the helm we'll be sailin' in uncharted
waters looking for buried treasure. Arrr...
Forget yer fancy Golden Fleece, we'd be after the "Hidden Gems of
ColdFusion8 - The Secret Treasure of HMS Scorpio". Shiver me timbers.
Yes, this Thursday, the Q
On 6/12/07, Scott Barnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> You need to switch to no sugar bazza :P
more like no caffeen...
but on a serious note, no bites, Scott? no interest in these quarters
in this AIR stuff?
I would have thought, like you, that more people would have thrown in
their 2cents on
On 6/13/07, Dale Fraser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I think people are missing the concept of the offline application.
not for us who cut our teeth on creating VisualBasic client-top apps.
Here's the trick: you can still make VB client-top apps, and they can
get pretty rich. And they can liste
>
> HTML/JS talk to a database?
>
http://code.google.com/apis/gears/?utm_campaign=en&utm_source=en-ha-ww-google&utm_medium=ha&utm_term=google%20gears
an interesting fork in the road to the future
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in a way, you've touched on a bigger issue - that's why I said "fork
in the road", especially from a ColdFusion viewpoint
http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd/archives/2007/05/cfers_gears.cfm
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yes, it's on tonight.
(those who have already sent RSVP's, many thanks)
> Avast me hearties!
>
> With Captain Charile Arehart at the helm we'll be sailin' in uncharted
> waters looking for buried treasure. Arrr...
>
> Forget yer fancy Golden Fleece, we'd be after the "Hidden Gems of
> ColdFusion
acording to a Breezo that Charlie Arehart just did for the QLD CFUG...
(shameless plug)
yes, for Solaris - not for windows
On 6/14/07, Steve Onnis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> I have had a bit of a look around to find out if Scorpio has 64 Bit
> support or not and i cant seem to find anyth
lly hook into CF (unless one of the community
> writes a CFC for one and all to use? that could work I guess?)
>
> Point: It's another OCC channel offering (Good!), but unless both
> sides of the isle (AIR + CF) have an automated synchronise / collision
> management piece - it&#x
just in case this has slipped under the radar
http://www.markszulc.com/blog/2007/06/17/upcoming-developer-eseminars-for-anz-developers/
not a lot of specific CF content coming up but at least it's something.
So if we can get behind it this may be the start of something, perhaps
as a vehicle to b
since a lot of this depends on the abilities of Flash, I'd suggest
asking on the Flashaussie list.
gut feeling though, is that flash writing the video to the local file
system and then accessing it for the upload may come unstuck (Store
the captured video to a LocalSharedObject? I wonder...)
Steve, have you emailed Pam at Rocketboots?
there was an early adopters program that Tim Buntel blogged but the
resellers were (IIRC) US-based.
On 6/19/07, Steve Onnis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Does anyone have any info about purchase upgrade protection? I need to buy
> a CF server licen
welcome back, Chad.
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> ping
>
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the real trick is to sustain it.
by having not enough CF people runs the risks of projects moving to
other platforms. One thing in favour in this not happening is that
everyone else is having grief finding people too (just try and find
some Java programmers).
but as current CF programmers move o
oh, I've been keeping a bit of a tab on it where I can.
I'm trying to concentrate on the future - the next CF devs (or the
next web/RIA devs to be honest) so all this round-peg in square hole
is someone elses fight. right tool for the right job, eh Mr Barnes?
ATM I'm stuck in sydbney Airport wit
another way to look at it is that 92% of the respondents wish him no
(physical) harm.
whether the other 8% know him personally is unclear...
On 7/2/07, Dale Fraser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Ok,
>
>
>
> So he went and commented, so spoilt my fun, but here's what people thought
> or hoped
> so I didn't read the preso as I didn't want to spoil it.
no chance of that, so many new things - and it's only the "gems", not
the new core features. It's a good thing it's getting recorded, just
to review - and keep up
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hopefully people will now realise why the CF8 beta is public** and why
CFUG's have been talking for ages about CF8 features. There's lots to
cover.
**
- plan Migration/compatability issues (Marks' point)
- get used to a $%!+Load of new stuff.
- plan ahead for projects that can use the new fea
This month we'll be looking at what it takes (how easy/limitations) to
get multiple versions of ColdFusion working on the same box.
Especially useful if you're developing (or testing) for current apps
in CF7 while getting used to CF8, with both installs on your dev box,
working at the same time.
Philip, have you asked Mr Straker himself if he has a copy you could grab?
I mean, you are a legit customer, the only diff (that I can see) is
that you're hoping to get the "before" after the fact since missing
out on making a copy before you started instead.
well, that's my understanding of you
Mike, I've got the wrong head on to day (my SQL one, the CF one is
getting dusty at home)
but IIRC, struct keys can't have numbers as names (at least at the start)
segment["page_#counter#"]thispage = counter;
should work tho...
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> Ok I'm looki
someone should, surely?
sadly, my install is not multi-server and I'm still on a PPC mac - no
help from me.
sorry. best of luck, MrBuzzy
On 7/10/07, MrBuzzy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>
> seriously, no one runs cf8 on mac?
>
> On 7/7/07, MrBuzzy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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if ppl could RSVP as soon as please. I'm heading out at lunchtime to
order the catering.
Also, by RSVP'ing you're going into the prizes draw - including the big ones.
> This month we'll be looking at what it takes (how easy/limitations) to
> get multiple versions of ColdFusion working on the s
if you've ever used reports with MSAccess databases you'll feel right at home.
set up headers and footers and repeatable "guts". format special
values, Good for 1-many relationships, etc.
IIRC it's written in Delphi so it's only for Windows. No Mac love there...
my 2c.
b
On 7/11/07, Blair Mc
I've given up guessing.
I blew my guess 13 days ago. I must have got my calculations wrong where
US:"Middle of the year" != Au:"Middle of the year"
still, there's so much in this release it's forgivable it takes a bit
longer to get it out there. It's not as if we've been waiting for
Windows Vis
w.. SOON ;)
>
> Ah, who the hell knows, I think they just like dragging it out just to watch
> our cf'ers squirm ;)
>
> Mark
>
> On 7/12/07, Barry Beattie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > I've given up guessing.
> >
> > I blew my g
the thing to keep in mind is that a query is a struct of arrays where
the struct keys are the columns and the rows are the arrays
query.structKey[array]
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besides I'd rather not think "the late Mike Kear", rather the "Mike
Kear of the Future".
Heck, he might even have a DeLorien in his garage...
and at least it's a reminder that there'll be a meeting in a couple of
weeks time, so it's all good.
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"but from no one I know to be reliable"
says it all, really...
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On 7/17/07, Sarah Barry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> They get put into undeliver when the message cannot get delivered for
> any number of connection problems
> They just sit there - up to you to clean them out and check/trace the
> reason why they fail
so I suppose (and I'm just throwing this
Have a thought for poor Taco who's inquiring where to buy right now.
Between a rock and a hard place, really...
On 7/17/07, AJ Mercer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dale,
>
> Please tell me you are going to buy CF8 the minute it hits the stores
>
> Or have you got a lot of money riding on this??
> Throwing daggers in the dark here, but worth a shot.
yeah, this sounds like what's really needed in CF are asynchronous
event handlers for when there's a result to return...
... like in XMLHTTPRequest (Ajax) or Flex/Flash.
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Hey Mike... getting back to Lighthouse Pro...
isn't that a Ray Camden (CF) app?
does that guy ever get any sleep?
On 7/19/07, Taco Fleur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> etc.
>
>
> On 7/19/07, Mike Kear <[EMAIL PROT
the Queensland ColdFusionUserGroup is inviting ALL Queenslander CF
people to become members of the QLDCFUG. To enjoy the goodness of a
Coldfusion Adobe user group.
So ...if you're _not_ currently a member AND
- whether you've been put-off by the sign-process in the past
- or think you're not
suggestion:
then start giving them away
- high schools, colleges, etc.
- user group members
I got a few that I'll be glad to spread around**:
- Studio 8
- Flash 2004/ studio 2004 (still usable)
- the Webser/McCloud Flex 2 book
- ASP.NET 1.1, ADO.NET.
no good to me anymore. I reckon there
"and the launch party is the 31st"
yeah I saw that on a blog - it's a little ol' CFUG in the 'States,
yes? sounds like it's just an excuse for a party - they're just
guessing surely... what would they know?
the only thing you've got to go by is what Tim Buntel said at WebDU
"Middle of the year.
that's a fair point, Andrew. The 1st July (Buntel's "Middle of the
year") might have come and gone but it mustn't be too far away,
surely. the idea of a 30 day enterprise would probably be a good bet.
"The thing is that the launch party..."
you just have to remember that it's "A" launch party, n
@Dale
"8/8 Release is most likely."
you're right, it certianly sounds good: "CF8 on the 8th of the 8th"**
besides, when do people need an excuse to have a party? Bring it on.
@Andrew
"Was there this much excitement for v7?"
well the beta CF8 seems to have heaps of stuff in it, Charlie
Arehar
@Dale, that's what I'm saying:
the "Adobe user group" are not Adobe employees. they're an old,
experianced CFUG Ben is blogging about.
their name is just blurring the lines between the definitive and
indefinite articles ("a" vs "an") in their name.
the link goes to here:
About
UseAdobe is the
> Why announce Launch Parties and not announce Release and Pricing.
Dale, please forgive, but AFAIK, Adobe *aren't* announcing launch
parties - unless you've seen something on an Adobe site that says
otherwise...
User groups/community are doing that, mostly on guessing that the
thing will be rel
Daniel, in a nutshell, what role did CF play in the architecture?
where was the split between CF and Java?
just curious, that's all
On 7/26/07, Daniel Haigh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> We updated two client libraries you can find on the web... one in
> flash (jabberflash) for the direct co
thanx to David Turk in alerting this:
it's a bit of a risk that this is getting OT but sometimes there's
enough crossover to justify a little 'ol email. It's a pretty big
event and it's heartening that they're thinking of remote users
(albeit at the last moment). David's post below:
===
(pls forgive, gotta be quick)
there's the other parts to it as well, header info on the code files
explaining date, purpose, revision number, bug fixes, etc. Some people
build that into their source code control as automated/fill out the
form commits, etc.
then there's back to basics old fashio
really? how very interesting
seen any movement in the Australia/New Zealand community that might
indicate the same?
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and since it's a party, if you ask Mark and Steve nicely, they might
just do fairy bread...
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> *grin* ASP.NET is free? :P heheheheh (kidding, just kidding).
depends if "free" means "trojan horse" ...now where's that Server2003
pricelist I saw lying around?
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actually Scott, you may have hit on something that is 100% this thread.
CF8 ent on Linux toe-to-toe with ASP.NET on Win Server2003
I haven't a clue what the answer to that is, dollar-wise, but it could
an interesting comparison with perhaps CF8 Enterprise still being
competitively priced?
a
perhaps we should all take a breather and wait until the dust settles?
the information is only a couple of hours old.
On 7/30/07, Dale Fraser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Robin,
>
> That's good I guess, but will your price be equivalent to the US$ prices,
> you should post pricing here when y
man, I've been thru this grief, but it was like, over two years ago
(memory, where has thou gone?)
isXML() ... does it return true?
FormatXML() ... should be unnecessary but try it anyway.
if your XML was only half the size would it start working?
HTH
b
On 8/1/07, Pat Branley <[EMAIL PROT
I can't remember for sure but gut feeling tells me that the price
increase for CF7 was pretty small. Maybe this is a bit of catch-up?
Meh, I'm not worried. Years ago I almost ended up follow a J.D Edwards
career path. Now *that* sort of thing is expensive...
On 8/2/07, Pat Branley <[EMAIL PROT
nothing out of the core is missing, both those Win and OS X sizes are
correct. For OSX there's the extra for hooking up to a .NET box that has to
go on that box if you're doing CF-.NET integration
On 8/2/07, Dale Fraser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Also,
>
> Report Builder isn't included, down
.
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User Groups Ushering in the new Coldfusion 8
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With the launch of the eighth release of Coldfusion, Adobe user groups
around the world will be holding special celebrations to mark the
occasion.
And Brisbane will be doing it with Style ...
Don't forget to RSVP, folks. (or sign up to the google groups if
you're not already - see below).
So far those that have are attracting good odds for wining the major
prize. Someone has to win it so it might as well be you.
> .
> .
> User Groups Ushering in the new Coldfusion 8
> --
> that went over my head a little...
this whole subject (the choice) might be a good topic for a CFUG
presentation, even a short 30-40 minute one via Breeze. I'm sure Steve
is not the only one in this boat.
anyone wanna volunteer? just throwing it out there...
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RSVP's to go into the major prize draw close at 1:00pm SHARP! Sign-ups
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added into the draw. Remember, you have to be there in person to win
the prize
All the ColdFusion User Groups in the Australia/New Zealand region
last night had a wow of a time, linking up with Adobe connect
fun, laughs, good presentations, Tim Buntel doing a gruelling Q+A on
CF8 and the future CF9.
Internatonal "bystanders" from all over the world (eg US, UK, Portugal)
So
you guys just make me ill with all your jet-setting around the world.
Very jealous.
I'm still trying to work out how to get to Web On The Piste (it's
still not too late!)
I hope it's so crowded that you have to que everywhere and you can't
get into sessions.
bah humbug!
On 8/10/07, M@ Bourke
not that I know of.
my guess is that it's just a wrapper for a hashtable that has getters
only and an API for searching via SQL calls.
in fact I've had to do deletes by doing a "not in" or "!=", getting
everything but the ones I want deleted back and then re-assigning the
new query back to the o
well, ADO.NET has datasets in memory that you can update and they can
still be in memory only. you then call the underlying database to
update when you're ready but you don't have to.
as I said, I've done updates by deleting first then queryAddRow(),
querySetCell()'s the values.
cumblesome but
> I was on Flex Aussie from the start until recently. But it didn't get much
> traffic.
> 1. What people use for a mailing list / forum for Flex.
sadly, flexcoders seems to have more people to answer (in theory) but
far too much traffic. Whether they actually bother with your inquiry
is another
> Love the Perth crowd..
yeah, they rock.
> Once that happens, you present but it's not so much a presentation but more
> of a conversation, that all are invited in. Interact share the ideas and
> build up from them and you may get your next session out of it and so on...
keep it free-form? lik
> You're being negative Barry :) stop it :)
nah, I'm not, you're reading it wrong. I'm being a bit realistic, sure
and a bit disappointed the
Queensland representation is thin so far
> The question overall though for everyone whom wants to attend is
> simple:
> "What do you want to get out of it
> Question to one and all: What would you like me to bring to the table
how do we register a preference/interest? a reply here or voting on
the CFCAMP wiki for each city?
> .NET + CF8 working together.
yes please.
- how to call custom custom .NET DLL's (to access objects created C#
f'instance
Dale, one way to get content is to encourage people who do
presentations for the community to post they stuff up to this website
you're creating.
the CFCAMP that's in planning at the moment could be a good source of
the same, especially for those that miss out (a presso in one city
isn't in anoth
So between Dale's efforts to capture "ready2run" code examples,
Charlie Arehart's collection of Breezo presentation links (user group
TV), the excellent gaggle of blogs around the place, it should be able
to provide a good entry point for any programmer to get up to speed
with the new CF8 features
sorry to sound like an old hippy but I was just watching a presso by
Jimmy Wales (creator of Wikipedia)
http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/view/id/37
and the way they do things. the ultimate content community creation, perhaps?
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you're really making me feel bad I couldn't get there this year, aren't you
Something to aspire to 12 months hence, I reckon.
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re: the Nectarine animations:
the jokes involving Scott Barnes would have fallen a bit flat if he
couldn't have made it ... and he almost didn't
Scott became a father for the second time yesterday. Reports so far
indicate all are well...
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BTW, Scott...
what's this I hear about you gas-bagging on far too long (really?
never!) and missing the flight call, having to get personally paged,
holding the flight up and almost being late to arrive back (with dire
consequences)...?
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> Now you've put the mozz on it.
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LOL! nah, it might look like that, Mr Buzzy, bad press.
but I reckon Dale has upped the anti. Fortune favours the bold, etc.
Dale (like lots of community ppl) is willing to put his time and
energy into a project to help the community. Same goes for people
cr
I've been critisied in the past by indiscriminately adding NO-CACHE
headers to my pages but the way I see it, you can make thins
"fool-proof" but you can't make things "idiot-proof"
you were lucky you got feedback to do something about it. it'd be a
shame if the feedback came from the bankruptcy
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