RE: Is it really worth it? CCIE [7:5725]

2001-06-01 Thread Jim Dixon
YES it is worth it when you complete your goal. If you goal is not CCIE then don't spend the money. -Original Message- From: Michael L. Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 6:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Is it really worth it? CCIE [7:5725] Reply

Re: Is it really worth it? CCIE [7:5725]

2001-05-31 Thread Michael L. Williams
8:07 AM Subject: Re: Is it really worth it? CCIE [7:5725] Did you know that many of the top Cisco engineers are not CCIE qualified? I have always wondered why people like Sam Halabi and the likes do not get certified.A Cisco employee told me that these people have everything t

RE: Is it really worth it? CCIE [7:5725]

2001-05-28 Thread Duncan Stuart
Question, Is it the experts that kill networks in real life? (probably) When does it become worth it?... How about the period (today) where companies are paying vast amounts of money for CCIE's to be part of their network team. That's when it becomes worth it. If you are good enough then prove

Re: Is it really worth it? CCIE [7:5725]

2001-05-28 Thread W. Alan Robertson
, this wasn't much of a problem. Now that it's become a little more common, I find that I'm losing my competitive edge on paper, and that's going to change. Alan - Original Message - From: Duncan Stuart To: Sent: Monday, May 28, 2001 11:05 AM Subject: RE: Is it really worth it? CCIE [7:5725

Re: Is it really worth it? CCIE [7:5725]

2001-05-25 Thread Morabito Joe
Subject: RE: Is it really worth it? CCIE [7:5725] Louie - First congratulations. I think that, from what I know of the lab, there is a greater disconnect between the items on the lab and the real-world than your posting would reflect. This is not to say that there is no coorelation - rather

RE: Is it really worth it? CCIE [7:5725]

2001-05-25 Thread Belt, Louie
skills section in the lab . Louie -Original Message- From: Robert Padjen To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 5/25/01 1:19 AM Subject: RE: Is it really worth it? CCIE [7:5725] Louie - First congratulations. I think that, from what I know of the lab, there is a greater disconnect between the items

RE: Is it really worth it? CCIE [7:5725]

2001-05-25 Thread Chuck Larrieu
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Robert Padjen Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 11:20 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:RE: Is it really worth it? CCIE [7:5725] Louie - First congratulations. I think that, from what I know of the lab, there is a greater disconnect

RE: Is it really worth it? CCIE [7:5725]

2001-05-25 Thread Robert Padjen
Chuck - I always enjoy the positions you present. You are correct, although I am concerned with the posture that a CCIE is an expert-regardless of the title on the certification. My issue is that an expert would know better than to create a small network with OSPF, RIP, BGP, EIGRP and IGRP,

Is it really worth it? CCIE [7:5725]

2001-05-24 Thread Morabito Joe
Hi, I want to ask a question to those already CCIEs. Is it really worth it? Don't get me wrong, I love the work and the learning. I actually plan to take the lab by july of next year, but how has your life changed since obtaining your ccie? Was it what you expected? Better or worse? Please

Re: Is it really worth it? CCIE [7:5725]

2001-05-24 Thread Kevin Schwantz
Did you know that many of the top Cisco engineers are not CCIE qualified? I have always wondered why people like Sam Halabi and the likes do not get certified.A Cisco employee told me that these people have everything to lose and nothing to gain if they take the CCIE exam. If they refrain from

Re: Is it really worth it? CCIE [7:5725]

2001-05-24 Thread Donald B Johnson jr
may be true I am not disputing that, it probably is a factor, I just think it is unfounded. - Original Message - From: Kevin Schwantz To: Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 8:07 AM Subject: Re: Is it really worth it? CCIE [7:5725] Did you know that many of the top Cisco engineers are not CCIE

Re: Is it really worth it? CCIE [7:5725]

2001-05-24 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
- From: Kevin Schwantz To: Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 8:07 AM Subject: Re: Is it really worth it? CCIE [7:5725] Did you know that many of the top Cisco engineers are not CCIE qualified? I have always wondered why people like Sam Halabi and the likes do not get certified.A Cisco

Re: Is it really worth it? CCIE [7:5725]

2001-05-24 Thread Robert Padjen
Schwantz To: Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 8:07 AM Subject: Re: Is it really worth it? CCIE [7:5725] Did you know that many of the top Cisco engineers are not CCIE qualified? I have always wondered why people like Sam Halabi and the likes do not get certified.A Cisco employee told me

RE: Is it really worth it? CCIE [7:5725]

2001-05-24 Thread Kane, Christopher A.
: Is it really worth it? CCIE [7:5725] My $.02. I have always been disenchanted with the certifications offered and I would like to believe that some others in the industry feel the same. This may be the case here. Basically, look at the certification tests. Many are old, poorly written, irrelevant

RE: Is it really worth it? CCIE [7:5725]

2001-05-24 Thread Louie Belt
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kane, Christopher A. Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 6:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Is it really worth it? CCIE [7:5725] I agree that a Cert is not necessarily who you are. I also agree that a Cert

RE: Is it really worth it? CCIE [7:5725]

2001-05-24 Thread Robert Padjen
PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Is it really worth it? CCIE [7:5725] My $.02. I have always been disenchanted with the certifications offered and I would like to believe that some others in the industry feel the same. This may be the case here. Basically, look at the certification tests. Many

RE: Is it really worth it? CCIE [7:5725]

2001-05-24 Thread Robert Padjen
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kane, Christopher A. Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 6:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Is it really worth it? CCIE [7:5725] I agree that a Cert is not necessarily who you are. I also agree that a Cert doesn't mean you can troubleshoot nor