Howard and dre,
First of all, thanks for the excellent thread! You've given me a great deal
of information about service provider issues. I was dimly aware of some of
them, but now I see how they really affect ISP operations. I've printed out
the whole thread and when I can get some quiet time
At 3:33 PM -0400 5/23/02, Ron Trunk wrote:
>Howard and dre,
>First of all, thanks for the excellent thread!
First, thanks for letting me know you are still around!
>You've given me a great deal
>of information about service provider issues. I was dimly aware of some of
>them, but now I see how
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> Howard and dre,
> First of all, thanks for the excellent thread! You've given me a great
deal
> kids (ha!), I'm going to go over it in detail. Thanks for all the links
> too! It's helpful to know what the best thing
At 07:32 AM 5/24/02, dre wrote:
> Cisco router to solve any problem, even those that shouldn't be solved
>with
>a router!
And how about all the people who try to turn the router into a
troubleshooting tool? You wouldn't believe how many times I've had to
convince people that the debug commands
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> At 07:32 AM 5/24/02, dre wrote:
> > Cisco router to solve any problem, even those that shouldn't be solved
> >with
> >a router!
>
snip for brevity
>
> I know this is a tangent from the real discussion, but
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At 07:32 AM 5/24/02, dre wrote:
> Cisco router to solve any problem, even those that shouldn't be solved
>with
>a router!
And how about all the people who try to turn the router into
Why can't I sniff my telnet login/password in clear text but can sniff my
pop3 login/password in clear text? I'm using Sniffer Pro 4.5.
Thanks,
-H
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At 1:25 PM -0400 5/24/02, Chuck wrote:
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>> At 07:32 AM 5/24/02, dre wrote:
>> > Cisco router to solve any problem, even those that shouldn't be solved
>> >with
>> >a router!
>>
>snip for brevity
>>
>> I
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> >> At 07:32 AM 5/24/02, dre wrote:
> >> > Cisco router to solve any pr
Because pop3 username and password use two packets (one for
"USER username" and another for "PASS password" command).
With telnet, every keystroke is transmitted in separate
packet. It is possible to collect them all and reconstruct
username/password, but it's not trivial as with pop3.
Sasa
CCIE
At 02:42 PM 5/24/02, Howard C. Berkowitz wrote:
>Only tool? Match up column A and column B (I'm only citing things
>that actually are in my own shop), and cite the equivalent routers.
>
> tack hammer6" spike
> 8 oz two-faced mallet 4d finishing
>
I have to respectfully disagree,
Done correctly with caution when necessary the router is an excellant
and often the only troubleshooting tool. If your unpacking a Sniffer
your in deep doo doo as it's quite rare I require it to solve a network
problem. Don't get me wrong, they are essential an
Well, maybe I overstated it a bit. ;-) My main complaint about the debug
commands is that the output is too cryptic. Also, some of them were clearly
designed for the Cisco developers not for the end user of the router
(network admin, engineer). The information they provide is simply not
helpful
Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:
>
> Well, maybe I overstated it a bit. ;-) My main complaint about the debug
> commands is that the output is too cryptic. Also, some of them were clearly
> designed for the Cisco developers not for the end user of the router
> (network admin, engineer). The informati
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> Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:
> >
> > Well, maybe I overstated it a bit. ;-) My main complaint about the debug
> > commands is that the output is too cryptic. Also, some of them were
clearly
> > designed for the Cisco devel
e WAN packet
capturing tools.
Certain debug argument hierarchies, for example those associated with ppp &
ospf, DO give enough header information to solve some problems such as mtu
negotiation mismatches.
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To:
Sent: Frida
It figures, Howard, that you would have a plethora of sizes and types of
hammers in your garage. I have only one, and believe me, just about every
household repair problem indeed looks exactly like a nail. Even the one
involving the pulling up of carpet to repair the rotted flooring underneath.
I
posal is disconnecting and reconnecting power
cables, then every problem looks like a "
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From: "Chuck"
To:
Sent: 25 May 2002 3:48 pm
Subject: Re: Provider Backbone Engineering and CCIEs [7:44876]
> It figures, Howard, that you would have
Howard,
When is your book "Building SP Networks" going to be coming out? I think
that this book can really help me out. I have noticed in my quest to build
the best SP that I can, that there's not really any one resource to address
all of the issues. Being new to the SP space, I am looking for
>Howard,
>
>When is your book "Building SP Networks" going to be coming out? I think
>that this book can really help me out. I have noticed in my quest to build
>the best SP that I can, that there's not really any one resource to address
>all of the issues. Being new to the SP space, I am looki
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> Exactly the reason why the CCIE: Design didn't pan out, and why the
> CND/CID course material is a wee bit out-of-date. Real world experience
> is impossible to test on any type of standardized exam. There is no
> "sho
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> At 3:33 PM -0400 5/23/02, Ron Trunk wrote:
> >Howard and dre,
> >First of all, thanks for the excellent thread!
>
> First, thanks for letting me know you are still around!
>
I've started teaching 'unofficial'
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Because pop3 username and password use two packets (one for
"USER username&q
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