2002 2:29 PM
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Subject: RE: Are all the Cisco jobs for CCIEs? [7:40328]
x,
I apologize if my email insinuated that you aren't talented or qualified;
that wasn't my intent. I applaud your motives for pursuing the IE; they
aren't far from my own. I think you should b
This is a good question and definitely a big part of the question I am
trying to ask.
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From: Andy Wu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 2:42 PM
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Subject: RE: Are all the Cisco jobs for CCIEs? [7:40328]
Maybe your question
Maybe your question should be:
Do most CCIEs obtain their current job because of their extensive experience
and CCIE cert came later or do they get their CCIE cert first with some
experience similar to yours and then the job doors start openning up for them?
The answer to this question will pro
e
you set a date yet?
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From: x [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thu 4/4/2002 12:29 PM
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Subject: RE: Are all the Cisco jobs for CCIEs? [7:40328]
I guess I wasn't completely clear in my original post.
I am not a rec
t to be the best.
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From: Logan, Harold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 4:24 PM
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Subject: RE: Are all the Cisco jobs for CCIEs?
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I don't mean to offend anyone, but the job market
doesn't owe anyone a job,
and
> I guess I wasn't completely clear in my original post.
I think you were clear, but topics seem to drift as they move along.
> I have been in the IT field for 6 years and moved from
> desktop, to Novell, to NT, to Unix. I passed the CNE
> and got a junior Novell position. I passed the MCSE
T
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From: Logan, Harold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 4:24 PM
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Subject: RE: Are all the Cisco jobs for CCIEs?
[7:40328]
I don't mean to offend anyone, but the job market
doesn't owe anyone a job,
and I includ
If you are a new CCNA/CCNP with no hands on experience, get a lab, get a
router, even a router simulor if you have to. Its better then nothing.
If your young energetic, positive attitude, employers will notice.
No matter what people tell you, companies are looking for Junior
Engineers now more th
I completely understand what you're dealing with. I'm a CCNP, and I'm
fortunate to be doing Network Engineering/Unix infrastructure administration
for an AT&T subsidiary in No. Virginia. However, I'll probably be looking
elsewhere in the not too distant future so that I can broaden my exposure t
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Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 4:24 PM
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Subject: RE: Are all the Cisco jobs for CCIEs? [7:40328]
I don't mean to offend anyone, but the job market doesn't owe anyone a
job,
and I include myself with that statement. Right now a CCNA or NP wi
To be honest, this was a problem even when the tech market was hot.
Someone would graduate from a "CCNA bootcamp" but the problem was
getting into the job. The trick is you have to know someone. Or place
some bids on contracts for like 15$ an hour.
Now the economy is not so hot, so employers are
ear my school
kicks out at least a dozen CCNA's, and that's considered low.
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From: Lomker, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wed 4/3/2002 2:49 PM
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&
Yous just answered your own question (the tech economy is bad-- very bad),
and many people face or have faced the same "chicken and egg" problem.
I have often wondered the same thing, about there being almost no ads for
junior network engineers, and very few for midl-levels, even. I can
speculat
the only way to get a good job and keep it is to work your way upin ANY
industry... experience is the key. The job we are hiring for now does not
require any degree or cert but it is not an entry level position. knowledge
is key! and don't limit yourself to cisco just because it's the buzz.
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Lomker, Michael
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:50 AM
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Subject: RE: Are all the Cisco jobs for CCIEs? [7:40328]
> How do I get a job that works with Cisco products,
> without alot of experience or a CCIE?
No kidding and good luck. Ev
> How do I get a job that works with Cisco products,
> without alot of experience or a CCIE?
No kidding and good luck. Even when the economy was good I couldn't find a
job. If you have a BSEE your odds are a lot better, but my business degree
didn't get me anywhere.
My current position is 75
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