RE: BGP for 2 T1's to one LAN [7:7511]

2001-06-07 Thread dragi radovanovic
hi! go to cco and do search on bgp multihoming. you will see there are some pretty good documents on it. Dragi Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=7513&t=7511 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.gro

Re: BGP for 2 T1's to one LAN [7:7511]

2001-06-07 Thread Rashid Lohiya
""Daniel Wilson"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > We are trying to have the web servers in our LAN accessible to the > internet via 2 T1's from different providers -- more for redundancy than > > load sharing, though that matters too. Currently we have 2 T1's, eac

RE: BGP for 2 T1's to one LAN [7:7511]

2001-06-07 Thread Vijay Ramcharan
I believe what you're looking for is a way to load balance traffic to your web servers. You also wish to achieve a degree of fault tolerance in case one server goes down. If both servers have the same content and the content is static, you could use a feature called DNS round-robin which basical

Re: BGP for 2 T1's to one LAN [7:7511]

2001-06-07 Thread Rashid Lohiya
I am reading Bassam Halabi at the moment, this has the information you require. Also think about who's address space you are using? ie. one of the 2 ISP's? or your own?. If you are using one of the ISP's address block, then maybe you will need to NAT on the other router? This might blow your load

Re: BGP for 2 T1's to one LAN [7:7511]

2001-06-07 Thread Daniel Wilson
The quick responses on this group are great! Thanks for the help so far. The content is not static. The sites in question run e-commerce. We could look at setting up access from both servers to the same DB server over an internal network ... so that would answer that objection to the solution

RE: BGP for 2 T1's to one LAN [7:7511]

2001-06-07 Thread Evans, TJ
I'll take a stab at some of this ... First - If I recall, and I may very well be wrong here, I though DNS round-robin was solely for load-sharing, not redundancy. Second - Regarding BGP multi-homing ... some "gotchya's" that we ran into: You will need an ASN Some ISP's have ne

Re: BGP for 2 T1's to one LAN [7:7511]

2001-06-07 Thread Gareth Hinton
Daniel, We've done something very similar to this by putting active/standby load balancing devices in an ISP. Your URL then points to a VIP on the load balancing device. The device then health checks your two sites and load balances accordingly. If the ISP dies then, yes you'll lose both sites, b

RE: BGP for 2 T1's to one LAN [7:7511]

2001-06-07 Thread Vijay Ramcharan
f Daniel Wilson Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 10:42 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: BGP for 2 T1's to one LAN [7:7511] The quick responses on this group are great! Thanks for the help so far. The content is not static. The sites in question run e-commerce. We could look at setting

RE: BGP for 2 T1's to one LAN [7:7511]

2001-06-07 Thread Bill Pearch
The answer is: It depends. :) When you make use of round robin DNS your clients do recieve multiple records. This is from a single hit to www.microsoft.com and shows the dns cache on the local machine. www.microsoft.com. -- Record Nam

Re: BGP for 2 T1's to one LAN [7:7511]

2001-06-07 Thread Daniel Wilson
> If the ISP dies then, yes you'll lose both sites, but the world is a single > point of failure. Unfortunately, all the ISP's we've worked with are much more likely to fail than the world is or the Internet at large is. Both ISP's we have now (names withheld to protect the guilty) have bad habi

RE: BGP for 2 T1's to one LAN [7:7511]

2001-06-07 Thread Symon Thurlow
-- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Daniel Wilson Sent: 07 June 2001 15:42 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: BGP for 2 T1's to one LAN [7:7511] The quick responses on this group are great! Thanks for the help so far. The content is not static. The sites in question

RE: BGP for 2 T1's to one LAN [7:7511]

2001-06-07 Thread Brian Lodwick
64/26 with a metric of 10. >>>Brian >From: "Symon Thurlow" >Reply-To: "Symon Thurlow" >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: RE: BGP for 2 T1's to one LAN [7:7511] >Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 17:07:05 -0400 > >-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >Hash:

Re: BGP for 2 T1's to one LAN [7:7511]

2001-06-08 Thread Sergei G.
Redundancy and loadbalancing are possible. The hardware is insufficient, though. Redundcy and Load balancing requirements. -- 2 ISPs 2 /24 ASN Two routers capable of 256 Mb of DRAM (3600 and higher) web servers with two IPs, from each block DNS round robin Redundancy only -- 2 ISPs 1 /24 ASN Two

Re: BGP for 2 T1's to one LAN [7:7511]

2001-06-08 Thread Daniel Wilson
Thanks. Someone else also mentioned the need for 2 routers for full redundancy. What I'm not understanding is why we need to IP blocks to achieve loadbalancing. That we'd need DNS round robin if we're running 2 blocks makes sense, but why the 2 blocks? Also, are both your lists assuming that t

RE: BGP for 2 T1's to one LAN [7:7511]

2001-06-08 Thread Kane, Christopher A.
t in respect to your host numbering and usage. HTH Christopher A. Kane, CCNP/CCDA Router Ops Center/Hilliard NOC UUNET/WCOM -Original Message- From: Daniel Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 7:43 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: BGP for 2 T1's to one L

Re: BGP for 2 T1's to one LAN [7:7511]

2001-06-08 Thread Laszlo Csosza
Hi! You receive one full BGP table with about 90-1 prefixes from each of the uplink ISPs... 2 ISP, 2 full BGP table... 128MB RAM is enough... -- cU, Laszlo Csosza ""Sergei G."" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Redundancy and loadbalancing are possible. The

Re: BGP for 2 T1's to one LAN [7:7511]

2001-06-08 Thread Brian
1 /24 from each provider and round robin dns is not necessary if you get both providers to route 1 /24. So ithe /24 belongs tp provider a, just talk provider b into routing it. If you're doing bgp with them, this is a perfectly reasonable request. Brian "Sonic" Whalen Success = Preparation + Op