RE: Class C summarization question [7:48367]

2002-07-13 Thread Roberts, Larry
was to test you on the 2^n vs. 2^n-2, that only one of them would be available. Thanks Larry -Original Message- From: Chuck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2002 1:28 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Class C summarization question [7:48367] Larry, I'm o

Re: Class C summarization question [7:48367]

2002-07-13 Thread Chuck
on Cisco eq > for it to route/subnet properly, they just enabled it by default now... > > > Thanks > > Larry > > > -Original Message----- > From: Chuck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 3:13 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re:

RE: Class C summarization question [7:48367]

2002-07-13 Thread Roberts, Larry
-Original Message- From: Chuck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 3:13 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Class C summarization question [7:48367] ah, but that is old world classful thinking. as per RFC 1812, effectively there is no such thing as subnet zero

Re: Class C summarization question [7:48367]

2002-07-12 Thread Chuck
Deutschman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 4:05 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Class C summarization question [7:48367] > > > Hey everyone, > > Thanks for all of your help. I have decided that 16 must be correct since it > makes perf

RE: Class C summarization question [7:48367]

2002-07-12 Thread Roberts, Larry
out subnet zero... Thanks Larry -Original Message- From: Dain Deutschman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 4:05 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Class C summarization question [7:48367] Hey everyone, Thanks for all of your help. I have decided that 16 must be c

Re: Class C summarization question [7:48367]

2002-07-10 Thread Dain Deutschman
Hey everyone, Thanks for all of your help. I have decided that 16 must be correct since it makes perfect sense and most of you back that up as well. I think the test question was just plain wrong. Anyway...I passed the CCNP Routing exam today so I'm pretty happy. : ) Groupstudy is a great learnin

RE: Class C summarization question [7:48367]

2002-07-09 Thread Andy Hoang
] Subject: Re: Class C summarization question [7:48367] Wow. According to my binary math, 4 bits = 16 combinations. 1 bit = 2 combinations (2^1 = 2) 2 bits = 4 combinations (2^2 = 4) 3 bits = 8 combinations (2^3 = 8) 4 bits = 16 combinations (2^4 = 16) Now. when converting from binary to

Re: Class C summarization question [7:48367]

2002-07-09 Thread Brad Nixon
Dain, Just out of curiosity, who was the author of the test question? When I was studying for my CCNP I ran into several poorly written questions and others, like this one, that were just plain wrong. Also, are the people that think that 2 to the power of 4 equals 8 the same people that write to

Re: Class C summarization question [7:48367]

2002-07-09 Thread Chuck
ah come on, guys, now you're all trying to outsmart yourselves. nothing in the RFC's regarding CIDR / summarization mentions a "subnet zero" why should it? that would defeat the purpose of CIDR/summarization. ""Dain Deutschman"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > O

Re: Class C summarization question [7:48367]

2002-07-09 Thread Michael Williams
Dain Deutschman wrote: > One of the choices in the question was 16but 14 was not a > choice. Could > it be that since 14 was not a choice that 8 was the closest > thing since 16 > is possibly wrong because of the 0 subnet? This seems a little > off the wall > to me butsometimes those cisco

Re: Class C summarization question [7:48367]

2002-07-09 Thread Carl Timm
I was thinking of subnetting and not summarization, it was a little late. 16, not 14, is correct. Carl Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=48405&t=48367 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstu

Re: Class C summarization question [7:48367]

2002-07-09 Thread Bob Timmons
If the choices are either 8 or 16, I'd definitely go with 16. 192.168.0.0/20 would be (for example): 192.168.0.1 to 192.168.15.254 Which is 16 total subnets. > One of the choices in the question was 16but 14 was not a choice. Could > it be that since 14 was not a choice that 8 was the clos

RE: Class C summarization question [7:48367]

2002-07-09 Thread Tim O'Brien
Behalf Of Bob Timmons Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 7:28 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Class C summarization question [7:48367] Firstly, 2 to the power of 4 is 16 (2x2x2x2). Secondly, regarding Carl's post, would the answer be 14? I'm not sure the subnet-zero comes into play w

Re: Class C summarization question [7:48367]

2002-07-09 Thread Dain Deutschman
One of the choices in the question was 16but 14 was not a choice. Could it be that since 14 was not a choice that 8 was the closest thing since 16 is possibly wrong because of the 0 subnet? This seems a little off the wall to me butsometimes those cisco questions are off the wall. Dain. "

Re: Class C summarization question [7:48367]

2002-07-09 Thread Michael L. Williams
"Bob Timmons" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Secondly, regarding Carl's post, would the answer be 14? I'm not sure the > subnet-zero comes into play with CIDR. I was under the impression it was > only relevant to subnetting as opposed to summarizing. Does anyon

Re: Class C summarization question [7:48367]

2002-07-09 Thread Bob Timmons
Firstly, 2 to the power of 4 is 16 (2x2x2x2). Secondly, regarding Carl's post, would the answer be 14? I'm not sure the subnet-zero comes into play with CIDR. I was under the impression it was only relevant to subnetting as opposed to summarizing. Does anyone know for sure? > I say 8. 2 to th

Re: Class C summarization question [7:48367]

2002-07-09 Thread Kris Keen
I say 8. 2 to the power of 4 Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=48389&t=48367 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [E

RE: Class C summarization question [7:48367]

2002-07-08 Thread Carl Timm
For a Cisco test the actuall answer would be 14. Unfortunately, for us, they don't take subnet zero into consideration for tests. So, if you have that question on the test answer 14, for the real-world it's 16. In other words, the answer to the BSCN question is wrong. Carl Message Posted at: ht

Re: Class C summarization question [7:48367]

2002-07-08 Thread Dain Deutschman
e W. > > - Original Message - > From: Andy Hoang > To: Michael L. Williams ; > Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 10:51 PM > Subject: RE: Class C summarization question [7:48367] > > > > I would say 8 is correct. 4 bits make 8 combinations. > > > > -Origi

Re: Class C summarization question [7:48367]

2002-07-08 Thread Michael L. Williams
charts and bitswapping charts instead of taking an hour and learning how binary actually works... geez) Mike W. - Original Message - From: Andy Hoang To: Michael L. Williams ; Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 10:51 PM Subject: RE: Class C summarization question [7:48367] > I would say 8

Re: Class C summarization question [7:48367]

2002-07-08 Thread Dain Deutschman
ions. > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > Michael L. Williams > Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 8:15 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Class C summarization question [7:48367] > > > I would say 16 as we

RE: Class C summarization question [7:48367]

2002-07-08 Thread Andy Hoang
I would say 8 is correct. 4 bits make 8 combinations. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Michael L. Williams Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 8:15 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Class C summarization question [7:48367] I would say 16 as

Re: Class C summarization question [7:48367]

2002-07-08 Thread Dain Deutschman
Thanks...it's good to know I'm not completely losing my mind. : ) Dain ""Dain Deutschman"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > I'm confused about a practice question for BSCN that I came across: > > Your routing tables are getting very large and you need to configure r

RE: Class C summarization question [7:48367]

2002-07-08 Thread Charles D Hammonds
16 is the correct answer. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dain Deutschman Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 7:51 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Class C summarization question [7:48367] I'm confused about a practice question for BSCN that I

Re: Class C summarization question [7:48367]

2002-07-08 Thread Michael L. Williams
I would say 16 as well. Mike W. "Dain Deutschman" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > I'm confused about a practice question for BSCN that I came across: > > Your routing tables are getting very large and you need to configure route > summarization. How many cla