>Okay, I am going to run the risk of starting a religious war here. But I do
>have to ask, is MPLS really as great as people say?
Great for what purpose? One of the problems is lots of
presentations, certainly the ones I've gotten unmodified from Cisco
training (not engineering), emphasize th
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A great audience comment at the Atlanta NANOG, with
> respect to 2547, was "if this is the answer...it must have been a
> pretty stupid question."
Howard,
I remember you quoted this as a comment for virtual
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> And even the idea of higher throughput has been questioned by the mother
of
> all networking, Radia Perlman:
> " Originally [MPLS] was designed to make it possible to build fast
routers,
> but then, using techniques such as
So are you saying that what Radia wrote is outdated and that MPLS is indeed
significantly faster than straight IP forwarding? Bill St. Arnaud and
Howard Berkowitz would emphatically disagree with that, so could you point
me to some evidence supporting this contention that MPLS is indeed much
fast
>So are you saying that what Radia wrote is outdated and that MPLS is indeed
>significantly faster than straight IP forwarding? Bill St. Arnaud and
>Howard Berkowitz would emphatically disagree with that, so could you point
>me to some evidence supporting this contention that MPLS is indeed much
Hey Howard, sorry if my last few posts have been an imposition on you. When
I said "please respond", what I should have said was that "I really hope you
can respond", and I sincerely apologize for using improper tone of language.
Thank you for your kick-ass responses.
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No.
Ms.Radia's comments were absolutely correct at the time of her writing, she
just could not say anything that had not happened while she wrote the book.
Tag switching and other proprietary similar technologies, on which MPLS was
built, were faster than IP switching when ip switching was way slo
Howard C. Berkowitz wrote:
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> MPLS complements IP routing. Neither replaces the other. There
> might have been some arguments in that area when (my mind
> blanks--they were acquired by Nokia) introduced the first label
&g
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> No.
> Ms.Radia's comments were absolutely correct at the time of her writing,
she
> just could not say anything that had not happened while she wrote the
book.
> Tag switching and other proprietary similar technologies, on whi
No Way!!!
The Marketing people NEVER exagerate.:->
MPLS does seem like a solution to a problem that was fixed some time
ago...ie: fast-switching, CEF etc...
DaveC
NRF wrote:
>
> Mr. Berkowitz, please read this post and respond.
>
> Okay, I am going to run the risk of starting a reli
>Howard C. Berkowitz wrote:
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>
>
>> MPLS complements IP routing. Neither replaces the other. There
>> might have been some arguments in that area when (my mind
>> blanks--they were acquired by Nok
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No Way!!!
The Marketing people NEVER exagerate.:->
MPLS does seem like a solution to a problem that was fixed some time
ago...ie: fast-switching, CEF etc...
DaveC
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> Mr. Berkowitz, please
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> No Way!!!
>
> The Marketing people NEVER exagerate.:->
>
> MPLS does seem like a solution to
managing a path across a packet-based network
> > infrastructure. But who knows where we will be in five years.
> >
> > Irwin
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: David Chandler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 8:07 AM
> > To:
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of those functions already has an established (and often better)
solution. Would any vendor be recommending MPLS if it did not require
an upgrade? $
I vote:Floor Wax :->
PS: Where can I find t
gt;> control mechanisms into a single, unified control plane capable of
>> provisioning and managing a path across a packet-based network
>> infrastructure. But who knows where we will be in five years.
>>
>> Irwin
>>
>> -Original Message-
>>
>> - IP-based virtual private networks
> >> - L2 encapsulation within L3 networks
> >> - Reservation of L1/2 resources by L3-based control mechanisms
> >>
> >> IMHO, the basic goal of MPLS is to converge the various L1/2-specific
> >> control mec
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> No Way!!!
>
> The Marketing people NEVER exagerate.:->
>
> MPLS does seem like a solution to a problem that was fixed some time
> ago...ie: fast-switching, CEF e
g.
>
> Any other opinions?
>
> -Michael Cohen
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> David Chandler
> Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 10:49 AM
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> Subject: Re: Does MPLS really live up to all i
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> Mike,
>
> I agree with you. cisco definitely made a fatal mistake here and leave a
> huge room for at least one company, Juniper.
Well, I'm sure that everybody knows Cisco's corporate strategy has always
been to try to figure
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> Mike,
>
> I agree with you. cisco definitely made a fatal mistake here and leave a
> huge room for at least one
>Actually, Cisco bought the ONS 15900 along with Monterey Networks for 500
>million in August of 1999. That's what makes this a particularly
>interesting move by Cisco since this was an aquisition which places them in
>the market of one of the next big core technologies exactly following the
>cor
s on Monterey and keep its options open for the future, rather
than continuing to sink money into a struggling technology.
Irwin
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On Wed, 30 May 2001, Howard C. Berkowitz wrote:
> Much as I like Nortel, the True Leader is Mary.
>
> "Mary had a little lambda..."
Mirror had a little lambda, its hue a ruddy glow
And everyway the mirror faced, the lambda had to go...
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