Do you remember Mainframe systems??? Do you remember LU and PU and logic
controllers?? Do they all work the same as IP networks or VOIP and IP
telephony networks?
Do you know all the traffic in your data network??? You seem to be bitter
about something. Do you want someone with 20 years experience
Shucks, folks, 'most everyone knows that the real world has its moments.
Users. They generally provide considerable exposure to "that which is
perceived as real".
'Course, it's always nice to have a test-bed; but I think "lab rat" is a
different definition.
So, perhaps to lighten things up, he
Why do you folks bother arguing these useless points? If you lost a job to
someone who had less experience than you or vice versa, don't cry foul, go
learn how to interview or reevaluate exactly what it is you bring to an
employer and make sure you are getting that across.
At 03:56 PM 5/21/2
Peter, your a genius very good point.
Jason
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Peter van Oene wrote:
> Why do you folks bother arguing these useless points? If you lost a job to
> someone who had less experience than you or vice versa, don't cry foul, go
> learn how to interview or reevaluate exactly what it is yo
I thought the "experience versus certification" debate had finally died a
few days ago, but now it resurfaces over on the professional list. I may as
well weigh in.
The problem here is clear. Some folks with lots of experience are scared
(or merely offended) that some manager or client might th
"Last but certainly not least, how many mainframe guys know IP networking.
You provide
me a list?Answer is very few. "
Not where I work.
I know and have worked with quite a few "mainframe guys" (and at least one
extremely knowledgeable mainframe gal - although I'm not sure she'd
appreciate the t
"Lab Rats" [7:44653]
Do you remember Mainframe systems??? Do you remember LU and PU and logic
controllers?? Do they all work the same as IP networks or VOIP and IP
telephony networks?
Do you know all the traffic in your data network??? You seem to be bitter
about something. Do you want so
At 03:56 PM 5/21/02, Thompson Alton wrote:
>Do you remember Mainframe systems???
Yes. (And if you were asking Howard, the answer is emphatically YES ;-)
>Do you remember LU and PU and logic
>controllers??
Yes.
>Do they all work the same as IP networks or VOIP and IP
>telephony networks?
Yes,
Amen to that. Humility is called for on both sides.
Apparently I've been tagged around here as the 'King Experience' guy. The
very ironic thing is that on another message board, I was the person who was
arguing that experience was NOT as important as other posters had indicated
(this was an ex
""Thompson Alton"" wrote in message
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> Do you remember Mainframe systems??? Do you remember LU and PU and logic
> controllers?? Do they all work the same as IP networks or VOIP and IP
> telephony networks?
> Do you know all the traffic in your data netw
"On the other hand, who's more likely to show up to work late? Or show up
drunk or high? Or get into a fight with his coworkers? Or surf porn in
front of female coworkers? The guy who's been in the working world for
25
years or a new kid?"
Umm, off-topic, but enlighten me, please. Why is i
> At 03:56 PM 5/21/02, Thompson Alton wrote:
> >Do you remember Mainframe systems???
>
> Yes. (And if you were asking Howard, the answer is emphatically YES ;-)
HeHe! Heck I was doing some file transfer troubleshooting on a Mainframe
towards the end of last year, I got elected because I knew the
ally-aired disputes recorded in the newsgroup archives.
To behave by lending legitimacy to these oversimplifications is to render
yourself guilty of the behavior you condemn.
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trying to solve a problem. :)
Mark
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"On the other ha
they can't remember where
they came from?
Thanks for all respondents.
Elmer
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> Amen to that. Humility is called for on both sides.
>
Well actually, yeah it is different. Perhaps not in theory, but in actual
practice. Think of the composition of the sexual harrassment lawsuits -
what is the proportion of women suing men for inappropriate behavior and
vice versa? Exactly. For every one case of a man suing a woman, it's
gotta
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