RE: UDP port 1434 [7:61891]

2003-01-26 Thread Symon Thurlow
Cheers, Symon -Original Message- From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 26 January 2003 20:02 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: UDP port 1434 [7:61891] d tran wrote: > You wouldn't have to fight the udp 1434 problem had you decided to > scrap the shitty MS SQL serve

Re: UDP port 1434 [7:61891]

2003-01-26 Thread Amazing
Amen! We are not running any Windows SQL and are only running MySQL on Linux. Here is what we turned away at the front door in the past 12 hours on one 20MB connection: deny udp any any eq 1434 (205647 matches) Here is Cisco's link: http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/707/cisco-sn-20030125-worm.s

RE: UDP port 1434 [7:61891]

2003-01-26 Thread Erick B.
comments inline... > Anyone have a link to a good technical document > about the worm? > > Thanks, > > Priscilla Below is from bugtraq: SQL Sapphire Worm Analysis Release Date: 1/25/03 Severity: High Systems Affected: Microsoft SQL Server 2000 pre SP 2 Description: Late Friday, January 24,

RE: UDP port 1434 [7:61891]

2003-01-26 Thread Symon Thurlow
It deleted my post Here is the link again: http://www.eeye.com/html/Research/Flash/AL20030125.html Symon -Original Message- From: Symon Thurlow Sent: 26 January 2003 21:04 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: UDP port 1434 [7:61891] Cheers, Symon -Original Message- From

Re: UDP port 1434 [7:61891]

2003-01-26 Thread l0stbyte
the "dumb butts" are allowing access to SQL from public networks. how difficult is it to filter stuff out? SQL boxes should be on private networks, no routes to public, second or third tier, etc. Y2K all over... This time in security business. Bunch of con artists claiming to be security expert

Re: UDP port 1434 [7:61891]

2003-01-26 Thread Ken Diliberto
We do have machines running flavors of MS-SQL on our network both in production and in classrooms/labs. These are the stats from about 8 A.M. on Saturday to 3:08 P.M. on Sunday for several of our access-lists. Keep in mind this is only from the two RSMs in one core 5500 and it's only internal tra

Re: UDP port 1434 [7:61891]

2003-01-26 Thread The Long and Winding Road
""l0stbyte"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > the "dumb butts" are allowing access to SQL from public networks. how > difficult is it to filter stuff out? SQL boxes should be on private > networks, no routes to public, second or third tier, etc. Y2K all > over... Thi

Re: UDP port 1434 [7:61891]

2003-01-26 Thread Amazing
what's amazing are the assumptions that people are making--who says tht BoA servers or any BoA database were comprimised? who says they are even running MS-SQL? Read how the worm is spreading and you will understand that you dont have to be running anything that can be affected by the worm. my g

Re: UDP port 1434 [7:61891]

2003-01-26 Thread Ken Diliberto
While trying to modify the ACL's, I had to disable two trunks into that switch. I could telnet into the supervisor no problem. When I tried "sess 4" or "sess 7" I would get a timeout. I read reports of routers hanging under the load. This what I think happened to BofA. The routers probably cou

Re: UDP port 1434 [7:61891]

2003-01-26 Thread The Long and Winding Road
""Ken Diliberto"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > While trying to modify the ACL's, I had to disable two trunks into that > switch. I could telnet into the supervisor no problem. When I tried > "sess 4" or "sess 7" I would get a timeout. > > I read reports of rout

Re: UDP port 1434 [7:61891]

2003-01-27 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
Good points. How much bandwidth goes to some of the remote ATMs? Probably very little. They probably got crunched by the huge number of UDP packets. Of course, better filtering would have prevented that. But there's no need to assume that BoA runs MS-SQL or to worry that private info was compromi

Re: UDP port 1434 [7:61891]

2003-01-27 Thread John Neiberger
Maybe this is a silly question considering where I work, but is it common for huge banks to connect their ATMs to their data centers over the Internet? We certainly don't do that, and wouldn't even consider doing it, so I was surprised that BofA appears to be doing just that. Then again, they pro

Re: UDP port 1434 [7:61891]

2003-01-27 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
Well, that's a good point. The UDP traffic jam probably didn't spread out to the edges of the network, where the ATMs are, as I had been thinking. The ATMs probably use private, non-routable addresses (non-routable over the Internet anyway). The bottleneck was probably more in the core of BoA's net

Re: UDP port 1434 [7:61891]

2003-01-27 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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RE: UDP port 1434 [7:61891]

2003-01-27 Thread Paul Forbes
utomatic teller machines are going to disappear. Paul Forbes Network Engineer Trimble > -Original Message- > From: John Neiberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 10:51 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: UDP port 1434 [7:61891] > &g

Re: UDP port 1434 [7:61891]

2003-01-27 Thread The Long and Winding Road
""John Neiberger"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Maybe this is a silly question considering where I work, but is it > common for huge banks to connect their ATMs to their data centers over > the Internet? We certainly don't do that, and wouldn't even consider > d

Re: UDP port 1434 [7:61891]

2003-01-28 Thread Ken Diliberto
Chuck, If I'm the Ken you're talking about and I actually said that, then I must really need a nap. :-) We're a university, where Microsoft rules. :-( I'd like to tell you how many MS-SQL servers we have, but I don't have a clue. There are probably some running in the dorms. We have entire l

Re: UDP port 1434 [7:61891]

2003-01-28 Thread The Long and Winding Road
sorry, Ken, I've read so much crap about saphire and 1434 the last couple of days that I forget who said what. sorry for misrepresenting you as a result of my frazzled brain. given the large installation of MS SQL devices on your campus, may we blame you and your wards for the problem? ;-> Chuc

Re: UDP port 1434 [7:61891]

2003-01-28 Thread Ken Diliberto
Well, um, yes. Although I removed us as part of the problem as soon as I noticed we were. :-) >>> "The Long and Winding Road" 01/28/03 02:36PM >>> sorry, Ken, I've read so much crap about saphire and 1434 the last couple of days that I forget who said what. sorry for misrepresenting you as a re