Re: Which GUI toolkit would you like to see wrapped in an idiomatic Clojure library?

I've done a fair amount of work with core.async in gui libraries, and I strongly recommend against it. Core.async by it's very nature consists of performing IO operations on channels, this sort of thing shouldn't be done inside a user interface. Your code will quickly become very complex with

Re: Which GUI toolkit would you like to see wrapped in an idiomatic Clojure library?

I sat down to use fx-fn today and discovered another library fx-clj. fx-clj hasn't had any activity for over a year, but it does use core.async, which seems to be the right direction if you want clean UI code: http://www.infoq.com/presentations/core-async-clojure Any plans to incorporate

Re: Which GUI toolkit would you like to see wrapped in an idiomatic Clojure library?

>> If the app-state has changed then it starts re-rendering the UI. That's pretty much exactly what fn-fx does in the latest version, with two caveats: 1) there's no timer, just a watch on an atom. 2) If you properly diff components you don't need to re-create them every time, just change the

Re: Which GUI toolkit would you like to see wrapped in an idiomatic Clojure library?

Paul, yeap, Seesaw is definitely something worth considering. Dave Ray hasn't abandoned the project, but I sent a personal email to him asking about the state of the project and it does seem the Seesaw is in more of a maintenance phase than a continue to move forward and improve phase. Dave Ray,

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You can diff JavaFX components like that? -- Jason Zwolak On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 12:51 PM, Timothy Baldridge wrote: > >> If the app-state has changed then it starts re-rendering the UI. > > That's pretty much exactly what fn-fx does in the latest version, with two >

Re: Which GUI toolkit would you like to see wrapped in an idiomatic Clojure library?

Hi Timothy, I'm really glad to see some new commits on fn(fx)! I don't know about others, but you'll definitely have at least one very enthusiastic user if I can get to a point where I can use it easily for simple things, and adapt/contribute for more complex things. Do you think the project is

Re: Which GUI toolkit would you like to see wrapped in an idiomatic Clojure library?

It uses the same sort of logic that React does. Fn-fx creates a virtual dom, and then diffs the previous virtual dom against the updated one. From there you get a list of necessary updates. JavaFX has a rather uniform property interface so applying these updates is quite simple. On Thu, Mar 17,

Re: Which GUI toolkit would you like to see wrapped in an idiomatic Clojure library?

That sounds great Timothy, thanks! On 18 March 2016 at 06:32, Timothy Baldridge wrote: > It uses the same sort of logic that React does. Fn-fx creates a virtual > dom, and then diffs the previous virtual dom against the updated one. From > there you get a list of necessary

Re: Which GUI toolkit would you like to see wrapped in an idiomatic Clojure library?

This could be React on desktop, +1 for that :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To

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Inline below.. Dave On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 9:37 AM, Jason Zwolak wrote: > Paul, yeap, Seesaw is definitely something worth considering. Dave Ray > hasn't abandoned the project, but I sent a personal email to him asking > about the state of the project and it does seem the

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I'm also interested in JavaFX from Clojure. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To

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I've been working on a "React for JavaFX" library for some time. Sadly I have no use for the library, so I haven't talked about it much yet. But the newest iteration has a interface I'm pretty happy with: https://github.com/halgari/fn-fx/blob/master/test/fn_fx/fx_dom_test.clj#L97-L145 If there

Re: Which GUI toolkit would you like to see wrapped in an idiomatic Clojure library?

I dusted off the fn-fx code today and fixed a bunch of bugs, and implemented a few examples: https://github.com/halgari/fn-fx One of the most complex examples so far is here: https://github.com/halgari/fn-fx/blob/master/examples/getting_started/02_form.clj As you can see the library is capable

Re: Which GUI toolkit would you like to see wrapped in an idiomatic Clojure library?

Yow, old indeed! In 2011, Dave Ray released Seesaw, which is a very nice wrapper for Swing. I've used it for a bunch of projects, and it works great. Of course, it does look like Swing, but it's plenty usable. (It's also still being maintained, so if you're looking for a toolkit that you can use

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+1 JavaFX -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send

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+1 JavaFX. I know this is an old thread... but in case anyone comes across it (like I did just now) and wants to see where things are, they should know that JavaFX has come a long way and seems to be Oracle's replacement for Swing. Now JavaFX is no longer only in JavaFXscript... in fact, I

Re: Which GUI toolkit would you like to see wrapped in an idiomatic Clojure library?

Ok... thanks everyone for the extended discussion. I'm thrilled to get so much feedback - apparently something like this is much-desired. Tentatively, based on the feedback in this thread, I'm going to provide a thick API and a Swing implementation. I will *attempt* to keep it abstract enough

Re: Which GUI toolkit would you like to see wrapped in an idiomatic Clojure library?

+1 Swing with caveats Will Swing itself continue to receive serious backing from Oracle? Will they get JavaFX to do everything Swing can and then deprecate Swing (if not officially then in practice?) It really depends on Netbeans. All the LF issues and other minor ones got attention when Sun

Re: Which GUI toolkit would you like to see wrapped in an idiomatic Clojure library?

We would definitely be interested in using something like this for Project Overtone. (http://project-overtone.org) We have already migrated from directly using Swing with the built-in Java interop, to creating a thin layer of clojure functions to trim out the boiler plate, to now wishing we had

Re: Which GUI toolkit would you like to see wrapped in an idiomatic Clojure library?

+1 for swing On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 8:48 PM, Luke VanderHart luke.vanderh...@gmail.com wrote: My side project is a fairly complex GUI application written in Clojure. Recently, I've become irritated with using Java interop for everything. It's not that Clojure doesn't have nice java interop -

Re: Which GUI toolkit would you like to see wrapped in an idiomatic Clojure library?

in case, you want to abstract over swing ... there is this guy from germany: Karsten Lentzsch. he is author of http://www.jgoodies.com/ and has incredible knowledge about swing and esp. in abstracting over swing. He knows all the strongs and weaknesses of swing and beeing involved in

Re: Which GUI toolkit would you like to see wrapped in an idiomatic Clojure library?

+1 swing. Even if the resulting applications are as ugly as sin, a working, idiomatic implementation gives us a reference point from which to dream up better futures. On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 10:38 PM, Antony Blakey antony.bla...@gmail.com wrote: On 31/05/2010, at 2:27 PM, James Cunningham

Re: Which GUI toolkit would you like to see wrapped in an idiomatic Clojure library?

Let the best decider of a GUI toolkit be based on pragmatism and design philosophy. To that end Swing wins. Clojure runs on JVM and takes advantage of anything Java that it does not provide for in a Lispy way. Swing is just another one of those things automatically there, which can have a nice

Re: Which GUI toolkit would you like to see wrapped in an idiomatic Clojure library?

We are willing to put some time into this at our end. We are in the process of replacing our Java desktop apps by Clojure apps. Removing Java code is a mid-term goal that we want to keep in our scope as we move on. Anything to reduce code size is a welcomed. How and when do we start this ? Luc

Re: Which GUI toolkit would you like to see wrapped in an idiomatic Clojure library?

I've been using Swing. But, one thing to consider is that many (most?) big applications use extension libraries such as JIDE (https://jide- oss.dev.java.net/), SwingX (https://swingx.dev.java.net/) or Flamingo (https://flamingo.dev.java.net/). They contain extra widgets that have their own extra

Re: Which GUI toolkit would you like to see wrapped in an idiomatic Clojure library?

You could be really odd and write a wrapper for Edje. http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/wiki/Edje Not a serious recommendation, really. I just don't have any strong positive opinions regarding any of the others except for QT, and as you say On May 27, 10:18 am, Luke VanderHart

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JavaFx has one other major issue. The scene graph isn't accessible outside of JavaFx script. On Friday, May 28, 2010, Luke VanderHart luke.vanderh...@gmail.com wrote: My understanding may be wrong, but I think JavaFX is intended more as a competitor to Flash or Silverlight than a GUI toolkit.

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Swing, mainly for deployment reasons. It's not hard to set the look and feel to the platform's look and feel. That's not perfect, but it's usually not bad either, though the GTK1-style file chooser is horrid. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure

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+1 SWT -- but if it's good, Swing works also. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To

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On May 29, 10:29 pm, Daniel doubleagen...@gmail.com wrote: You could be really odd and write a wrapper for Edje. http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/wiki/Edje Not a serious recommendation, really.  I just don't have any strong positive opinions regarding any of the others except for QT, and as

Re: Which GUI toolkit would you like to see wrapped in an idiomatic Clojure library?

I am not knocking all of these +1 Swing posts. But I would love to see one good public application built in Swing (besides Netbeans) On May 28, 9:10 am, laseray lase...@gmail.com wrote: +1 Swing If I had my druthers I would go with QtJambi, but since Nokia dropped development for that it has

Re: Which GUI toolkit would you like to see wrapped in an idiomatic Clojure library?

I am not knocking all of these +1 Swing posts. But I would love to see one good public application built in Swing (besides Netbeans) Here's a couple just off the top of my head... jEdit http://www.jedit.org/ GanttProject http://www.ganttproject.biz/ Intellij IDEA, RubyMine, PhpStorm,

Re: Which GUI toolkit would you like to see wrapped in an idiomatic Clojure library?

I am not knocking all of these +1 Swing posts. But I would love to see one good public application built in Swing (besides Netbeans) Here's a couple just off the top of my head... Also, Aqua Data Studio (my favorite db tool) http://www.aquafold.com/ -- ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~

Re: Which GUI toolkit would you like to see wrapped in an idiomatic Clojure library?

I'd vote for swing and against anything that abstracts away the toolkit so that you can switch the backend. Implementing a clojure wrapper for the apache pivot toolkit gave me a little insight on at least two GUI toolkits, namely swing and pivot. Despite their goal of displaying widgets on a 2

Re: Which GUI toolkit would you like to see wrapped in an idiomatic Clojure library?

not being a programmer perhaps I should be quite, but I never do that. +10 for swing, here is why: 1: it is there 2: it is good enough 3: doing the bare minimum you are signing up for a large amount of work, don't sign up for more. 4: people who build new gui libs usually have their own ideas

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On 31/05/2010, at 9:44 AM, Marc Spitzer wrote: 2: it is good enough IMO This is the entire point. Swing is not good enough if you want to build something with native integration and correct look and feel. Everything else comes down to whether developers are prepared to pay the price for

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On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 8:23 PM, Antony Blakey antony.bla...@gmail.com wrote: On 31/05/2010, at 9:44 AM, Marc Spitzer wrote: 2: it is good enough IMO This is the entire point. Swing is not good enough if you want to build something with native integration and correct look and feel.

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On 31/05/2010, at 10:44 AM, Marc Spitzer wrote: I do agree with you for 'a' native wrapper. What is your opinion for all native wrappers? The thing is that each platform that requires native code is a source of tech support requests. Now let me go with the things I have at work: 1:

Re: Which GUI toolkit would you like to see wrapped in an idiomatic Clojure library?

This is a great idea, and is something that Clojure really needs in my opinion (for starters it would be nice to be able to write GUI apps in Clojure without worrying about the Java level, with its completely different and completely annoying semantics). My vote is for Swing, simply because the

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On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 9:23 PM, Antony Blakey antony.bla...@gmail.com wrote: On 31/05/2010, at 10:44 AM, Marc Spitzer wrote: I do agree with you for 'a' native wrapper.  What is your opinion for all native wrappers?  The thing is that each platform that requires native code is a source of

Re: Which GUI toolkit would you like to see wrapped in an idiomatic Clojure library?

On 31/05/2010, at 11:13 AM, Marc Spitzer wrote: I actually primarily do not care about mac or windows, personally or professionally. Also keep in mind that one of the selling points of clojure is that it runs where *Java* runs not mac and windows, I would think that in my mind anyway, be a

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Antony Blakey antony.bla...@gmail.com wrote .. On 31/05/2010, at 11:13 AM, Marc Spitzer wrote: I actually primarily do not care about mac or windows, personally or professionally. Also keep in mind that one of the selling points of clojure is that it runs where *Java* runs not mac and

Re: Which GUI toolkit would you like to see wrapped in an idiomatic Clojure library?

On Mon, 31 May 2010 10:53:45 +0930 Antony Blakey antony.bla...@gmail.com wrote: On 31/05/2010, at 10:44 AM, Marc Spitzer wrote: also lets not forget about LD_LIBRARY_PATH issues, No Mac or Windows user would encounter these. You forget that the Mac is a Unix box. It supports

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Mike Meyer mwm-keyword-googlegroups.620...@mired.org wrote .. On Mon, 31 May 2010 10:53:45 +0930 Antony Blakey antony.bla...@gmail.com wrote: On 31/05/2010, at 10:44 AM, Marc Spitzer wrote: also lets not forget about LD_LIBRARY_PATH issues, No Mac or Windows user would encounter

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On 31/05/2010, at 12:31 PM, Mike Meyer wrote: On Mon, 31 May 2010 10:53:45 +0930 Antony Blakey antony.bla...@gmail.com wrote: On 31/05/2010, at 10:44 AM, Marc Spitzer wrote: also lets not forget about LD_LIBRARY_PATH issues, No Mac or Windows user would encounter these. You forget

Re: Which GUI toolkit would you like to see wrapped in an idiomatic Clojure library?

I doubt this subthread is of any use to the OP at this point. On 31/05/2010, at 12:31 PM, lprefonta...@softaddicts.ca wrote: Any suggestion is welcomed but I doubt we can find a core group of developers that will win this survey. It's a survey group of 1 i.e. what are *his* responses to those

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Antony Blakey antony.bla...@gmail.com wrote .. I doubt this subthread is of any use to the OP at this point. I run a software business, I generally look at product decisions in terms of cost/benefits from end to end over time not just looking solely at a specific item and specific time frame.

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On 31/05/2010, at 2:04 PM, lprefonta...@softaddicts.ca wrote: Two alternatives seem to gather some support, Swing and SWT. Now what are the cost/benefits of choosing SWT ? See below. What value brings SWT ? a) Performance ? Maybe a few years ago but presently Swing and SWT are

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On May 30, 9:23 pm, Antony Blakey antony.bla...@gmail.com wrote: I care about Mac and Windows primarily, and building software that will sell (not dev tools) requires good native look and feel. Do you have a single example of an SWT app that has a decent feel on OS X? I've spent a fair

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On 31/05/2010, at 2:27 PM, James Cunningham wrote: On May 30, 9:23 pm, Antony Blakey antony.bla...@gmail.com wrote: I care about Mac and Windows primarily, and building software that will sell (not dev tools) requires good native look and feel. Do you have a single example of an SWT

Re: Which GUI toolkit would you like to see wrapped in an idiomatic Clojure library?

2010/5/28 Luke VanderHart luke.vanderh...@gmail.com Why not design it so that it can be backed by Swing or SWT or HTML (perhaps with some AJAX) or whatever? It seems kind of silly to do an abstraction on a single backend, don't you think? Ideally, yes. In practice, I'd rather implement

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I will send patches!! get on github no. ;) On 5/27/10, Luke VanderHart luke.vanderh...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks, Heinz... I may. Right now I'm still exploring what I want the API to be. I was hoping to achieve something a bit thicker that could insulate the user from Java classes

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Yes but not too much yak shaving, it is important to run with the simplest thing that will work first. On 5/27/10, Jason Smith ja...@lilypepper.com wrote: Why not design it so that it can be backed by Swing or SWT or HTML (perhaps with some AJAX) or whatever? It seems kind of silly to do an

Re: Which GUI toolkit would you like to see wrapped in an idiomatic Clojure library?

For those of you complaining about the Swing LAF, learn to use the UIManager class :) (defn set-laf! [laf-name] (javax.swing.UIManager/setLookAndFeel laf-name)) On May 27, 7:51 pm, Armando Blancas armando_blan...@yahoo.com wrote: Remember, the actual API won't matter - that will be

Re: Which GUI toolkit would you like to see wrapped in an idiomatic Clojure library?

I work on .Net, so my observation could be totally wrong, but I think JavaFx could be an option to consider (specially because of its JSON kind of syntax). I am working on a WPF project currently, and although WPF is big and complex, the kind of UIs one can build with it is amazing, and JavaFx

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On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 7:29 PM, mmwaikar mmwai...@gmail.com wrote: QT Jambi Pros: native widgets, huge widget selection, highly-regarded framework Cons: requires platform-specific libs, writing custom widgets is hairy, momentum and support seem to be lagging since Nokia dropped official

Re: Which GUI toolkit would you like to see wrapped in an idiomatic Clojure library?

My understanding may be wrong, but I think JavaFX is intended more as a competitor to Flash or Silverlight than a GUI toolkit. It'd probably be great for a Clojure games framework, or for simple graphical drawing and such, but I'm not sure it's appropriate for a complex, high performance GUI. In

Re: Which GUI toolkit would you like to see wrapped in an idiomatic Clojure library?

I would love to see an idiomatic clojure QtJambi wrapper that solves the writing custom widgets is hairy problem. I think QT Jambi's basic architecture precludes this. Jambi is basically a bunch of JNI calls to a backend C++ QT app. As soon as you start delving into Jambi's internals, you end

Re: Which GUI toolkit would you like to see wrapped in an idiomatic Clojure library?

+1 Swing If I had my druthers I would go with QtJambi, but since Nokia dropped development for that it has not been able to keep pace with Qt. So that would be immediately out of sync. Plus the need for platform native compiled code is a minus. Fine for the main three (Linux, Mac, Windows) with

Re: Which GUI toolkit would you like to see wrapped in an idiomatic Clojure library?

I vote for Swing. Swing components conform to JavaBeans specification, so a generic Clojure library to construct and manipulate JavaBeans would make a large part of the GUI framework. On 27 май, 19:18, Luke VanderHart luke.vanderh...@gmail.com wrote: My side project is a fairly complex GUI

Which GUI toolkit would you like to see wrapped in an idiomatic Clojure library?

My side project is a fairly complex GUI application written in Clojure. Recently, I've become irritated with using Java interop for everything. It's not that Clojure doesn't have nice java interop - it does. It's just that when interacting with a GUI framework, which is a large part of my app, I

Re: Which GUI toolkit would you like to see wrapped in an idiomatic Clojure library?

Although I work with SWT at work, I would say Swing for 2 reasons : * no additional dependency for users of your lib, and *no need* for users of your lib to deliver different final apps binaries for different platforms * may be easier to work with in your implementation (?) 2010/5/27 Luke

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+1 Swing. There's a ton of documentation out there, and it got some serious love from Sun between java 5 and 6. On May 27, 11:27 am, Laurent PETIT laurent.pe...@gmail.com wrote: Although I work with SWT at work, I would say Swing for 2 reasons :   * no additional dependency for users of your

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+1 Swing. +1 Swing. There's a ton of documentation out there, and it got some serious love from Sun between java 5 and 6. On May 27, 11:27 am, Laurent PETIT laurent.pe...@gmail.com wrote: Although I work with SWT at work, I would say Swing for 2 reasons : * no additional dependency

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There are really only two mainstream options SWT and Swing. Both will suffice. I preferred SWT just because I like the Eclipse project. As you know SWT is the core GUI library behind SWT. I just feel that SWT has more large applications developed, Eclipse, azureus Swing can be frustrating for

Re: Which GUI toolkit would you like to see wrapped in an idiomatic Clojure library?

+1 Swing. SWT comes with far to many deployment headaches. +1 Swing. +1 Swing. There's a ton of documentation out there, and it got some serious love from Sun between java 5 and 6. On May 27, 11:27 am, Laurent PETIT laurent.pe...@gmail.com wrote: Although I work with SWT at

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+1 For swing especially since I started this already. Look for clj-swing in github, since this seems quite a load of work I'd be glad for any help so :). Regards, Heinz On May 27, 2010, at 21:30 , Luc Préfontaine wrote: +1 for Swing. On Thu, 2010-05-27 at 11:59 -0700, Brian Schlining wrote:

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Thanks, Heinz... I may. Right now I'm still exploring what I want the API to be. I was hoping to achieve something a bit thicker that could insulate the user from Java classes completely. The user wouldn't even have to know Swing or handle JObjects or worry about the event thread... In other

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Remember, the actual API won't matter - that will be completely abstracted away. So try to focus on the framework's look and feel. Thanks! -Luke SWT, because of the native look and feel. I really don't like the looks of Swing. As a user of some Swing app, I don't find solace from thinking how

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On 28/05/2010, at 9:21 AM, Armando Blancas wrote: Remember, the actual API won't matter - that will be completely abstracted away. So try to focus on the framework's look and feel. Thanks! -Luke SWT, because of the native look and feel. I really don't like the looks of Swing. As a user

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Swing seems like a proof of concept UI toolkit. SWT just seems a bit more polished and easier to develop, working apps. That is just an opinion and I like that Swing is built-in. On May 27, 8:13 pm, Antony Blakey antony.bla...@gmail.com wrote: On 28/05/2010, at 9:21 AM, Armando Blancas wrote:

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Personally, I prefer SWT over Swing mostly because seems a lot more useful and a little more responsive to the user. But then I think Swing is horrible and SWT is just a bit better. I seriously prefer Tk over both (except for the file selection dialogs on Unix). Consider this a + vote for SWT

Re: Which GUI toolkit would you like to see wrapped in an idiomatic Clojure library?

Why not design it so that it can be backed by Swing or SWT or HTML (perhaps with some AJAX) or whatever? It seems kind of silly to do an abstraction on a single backend, don't you think? On May 27, 4:37 pm, Luke VanderHart luke.vanderh...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks, Heinz... I may. Right now I'm

Re: Which GUI toolkit would you like to see wrapped in an idiomatic Clojure library?

Why not design it so that it can be backed by Swing or SWT or HTML (perhaps with some AJAX) or whatever?  It seems kind of silly to do an abstraction on a single backend, don't you think? Ideally, yes. In practice, I'd rather implement one framework well than implement only the lowest common