Stus-List Batteries in the cabin. Was Re: Changing weight distribution in Landfall 38

2015-11-19 Thread Sailnomad via CnC-List
Ok, now I am worried I have 5 group 27 wet cell batteries under my cabin sole. They are not wented. And I live aboard full time with wife and 2 dogs. Am I living dangerously ? I never smelled anything. What are the symptoms ? Ahmet C&C 25 "Tabasco" Irwin 43 "Waterdancer" Boston, MA On Nov 19, 2015

Re: Stus-List Water pump servicing

2015-11-19 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
Depco Pump (http://www.depcopump.com/catalogs.php) should have the Jabsco parts. Dennis C. On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 9:24 PM, John and Maryann Read via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Finally got around to servicing the pumps on our Yanmar 3GM. It has the > Sendure aftermarket cooling

Re: Stus-List Changing weight distribution in Landfall 38

2015-11-19 Thread svpegasus38
Bob, on Pegasus I have a 4d (house 1) under the port q-berth, a pair of 6volts under the companion way (house 2) and a pair of group 24 for starting and windlass on the shelf to port of the engine. This keeps all heavy battery cables (except windlass) in short runs, lessens the voltage

Re: Stus-List Keel repair

2015-11-19 Thread robert via CnC-List
David: I am no expert on this topic, however, I saw a similar repair this season at our clubthe contractor was using an epoxy filler to fill the missing volume.not a great deal of weight lost in the keel and a relatively simple repair..I remember he screwed a few long SS screws in

Re: Stus-List Keel repair

2015-11-19 Thread Brent Driedger via CnC-List
That's a bummer. Have you inspected the hull in front of the keel and in back? Tremendous forces during a grounding can fracture the hull in ways which may barely be visible but can cause delimitation etc. If the impact was enough to distort the lead it may be well within your interests to hav

Stus-List Video of C&C 30 racing in Annapolis

2015-11-19 Thread robert via CnC-List
Mike: I am proud to say that the last sail of this season on AZURA we (Dwight Veinot and me) had her going 7.1 knts to 7.3 knts to weather consistent speed on the GPS. So we are ready to take on the new C&C 30 one design.any time! Rob Abbott AZURA C&C 32 -84 Halifax, N.S. On 2015-11-19

Stus-List Water pump servicing

2015-11-19 Thread John and Maryann Read via CnC-List
Finally got around to servicing the pumps on our Yanmar 3GM. It has the Sendure aftermarket cooling system so has a Yanmar OEM engine circulating water pump and a Jabsco raw water pump. Need impellers, gasket and new screws for the face plate. Question is where to readily source these. A G

Stus-List Keel repair

2015-11-19 Thread David Knecht via CnC-List
Aries is now finally out of the water and I had a chance to survey the damage to the keel from my encounter with Melton Ledge last summer. I actually received a special award from the Race Committee for going up on the ledge during a race and needing to be towed off. In my defense, the marker

Re: Stus-List Video of C&C 30 racing in Annapolis

2015-11-19 Thread Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List
If a c&c30 is that fast imagine a c&c32! From: CnC-List [cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] on behalf of robert via CnC-List [cnc-list@cnc-list.com] Sent: November 19, 2015 6:41 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: robert Subject: Stus-List Video of C&C 30 racing i

Re: Stus-List Changing weight distribution in Landfall 38

2015-11-19 Thread Robert Boyer via CnC-List
A couple good points were made here. At the present moment my second (44-lb) anchor and rode are not on the bow--once I add this, it will help with weight distribution. The other benefit of moving batteries around would be space gains in the starboard cockpit locker where I now have two batter

Stus-List Changing weight distribution in Landfall 38

2015-11-19 Thread Daniel Sheer via CnC-List
Bob, For what it's worth, I have 5 group 31 batteries in my LF 38, one in the forward end of the starboard lazarette (starting battery), two under the nav seat (house bank 1) with the Electroscan, and two under the port quarterberth (house bank 2). There are two big red bank switches, one separa

Re: Stus-List Article from "The Yacht" magazine sept/oct 1985

2015-11-19 Thread JP Mail via CnC-List
Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 19, 2015, at 6:15 PM, Jim Watts via CnC-List > wrote: > > If you can scan it to a PDF you could send it to Stu and he can post it on > the website. > > Jim Watts > Paradigm Shift > C&C 35 Mk III > Victoria, BC >> Yes, thanks. That's exactly what Stu said. It'

Re: Stus-List Changing weight distribution in Landfall 38

2015-11-19 Thread Fred Hazzard via CnC-List
How about more water tanks instead? Cruisers can't have to much water. Fred Hazzard S/V Fury C&C 44 Portland, Or On Nov 19, 2015 12:53 PM, "Robert Boyer via CnC-List" wrote: > Thats a good idea for the rare, if ever, occasion arises. > > Sent from my iPhone, Bob Boyer > > > On Nov 19, 2015, at

Re: Stus-List Article from "The Yacht" magazine sept/oct 1985

2015-11-19 Thread Jim Watts via CnC-List
If you can scan it to a PDF you could send it to Stu and he can post it on the website. Jim Watts Paradigm Shift C&C 35 Mk III Victoria, BC On 19 November 2015 at 13:19, JP Mail via CnC-List wrote: > Found a 7 page article titled, C&C the Committee and the Corporate Boat. > Interesting to me as

Re: Stus-List Changing weight distribution in Landfall 38

2015-11-19 Thread Dreuge via CnC-List
I was thinking the exact same thing regarding a windlass and the need for starting if you split up the home bank leaving one bank(or just one battery) aft for emergency starting. As suggested, you should protect the wires at the battery, but rather than adding breakers, I suggest using a bat

Stus-List Video of C&C 30 racing in Annapolis

2015-11-19 Thread robert via CnC-List
Ron, No, we are not too old to sail one of these new C&C 30 sport boats.we are too old to own and campaign one. But I do agree with you, I'd rather be 'in' the boat than 'on' the boat! Rob Abbott AZURA C&C 32 - 84 Halifax, N.S. On 2015-11-19 5:20 PM, Ron Casciato via CnC-List wrote: R

Re: Stus-List Video of C&C 30 racing in Annapolis

2015-11-19 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List
Nice video! Tacking and sheeting angles are crazy! Maybe I can crew on one someday! Joel On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 4:20 PM, Ron Casciato via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Ron……….think of it as a way to get a good used one if they have a lot of > them out there.I think I’m genera

Re: Stus-List Video of C&C 30 racing in Annapolis

2015-11-19 Thread Ron Casciato via CnC-List
Ronthink of it as a way to get a good used one if they have a lot of them out there.I think I'm generationally challenged to be able to sail one... Ron C. _ From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, Nov

Stus-List Article from "The Yacht" magazine sept/oct 1985

2015-11-19 Thread JP Mail via CnC-List
Found a 7 page article titled, C&C the Committee and the Corporate Boat. Interesting to me as I'm buying an '84. Any interest in me posting and if so what is the best way? Sent from my iPhone ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your li

Re: Stus-List Changing weight distribution in Landfall 38

2015-11-19 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List
I have the gel batteries installed under the settee in the main cabin on my boat and this is an original design. This, of course, does not mean that they are ABYC compliant. Marek From: Robert Boyer via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 3:07 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Robert Bo

Re: Stus-List Video of C&C 30 racing in Annapolis

2015-11-19 Thread Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List
Imagine my disappointment, I was thinking of original C&C 30s.Great video though and I hope they sell the hell out of them.  Can only help get the name out there.RonC&C 30-1Wild CheriSTL From: Rick Brass via CnC-List To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Rick Brass Sent: Thursday, November 19

Re: Stus-List Changing weight distribution in Landfall 38

2015-11-19 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List
When you add the windlass you'll have the battery! On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 3:51 PM, Robert Boyer via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Thats a good idea for the rare, if ever, occasion arises. > > Sent from my iPhone, Bob Boyer > > > On Nov 19, 2015, at 3:27 PM, bobmor99 . via CnC-List <

Re: Stus-List Changing weight distribution in Landfall 38

2015-11-19 Thread Robert Boyer via CnC-List
Thats a good idea for the rare, if ever, occasion arises. Sent from my iPhone, Bob Boyer > On Nov 19, 2015, at 3:27 PM, bobmor99 . via CnC-List > wrote: > > If it will be very rare to ever need a v-berth house battery for engine > starting, how about, if the need were to arise, disconnect one

Re: Stus-List Changing weight distribution in Landfall 38

2015-11-19 Thread bobmor99 . via CnC-List
If it will be very rare to ever need a v-berth house battery for engine starting, how about, if the need were to arise, disconnect one of the v-berth batteries, take it aft, and use some jumper cables to get the engine started. Bob M Ox 33-1 Jax. FL ___

Re: Stus-List Ox meets Practical Sailor

2015-11-19 Thread Sylvain Laplante via CnC-List
Actually there is a fairly complete test of a C&C33 mkII in their September issue ( 5 pages, many pictures ). The boat's name is Sea Dancer. At the end of the article there's an Editor's note:  "This review is an updated and expanded version of one previously published" SylvainC&C27 MkIII

Re: Stus-List Changing weight distribution in Landfall 38

2015-11-19 Thread Robert Boyer via CnC-List
I think ABYC is a little to conservative on this issue if that is their stance. "AGM's are advantageous anyplace where you need a reliable totally sealed battery for safety or environmental reasons - wheelchairs, medical standby power, inside RV's, computer room UPS systems, or

Re: Stus-List Ox meets Practical Sailor

2015-11-19 Thread bobmor99 . via CnC-List
I'm not sure there was a single article about the 33-1. I think David's boat was used as an experimental platform to try out different products. Could be wrong. I recycled my old PS issues a few years ago. --Bob M Ox 33-1 Jax, FL On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 7:49 PM, Barbara Hickson Fellers via CnC-Lis

Re: Stus-List Changing weight distribution in Landfall 38

2015-11-19 Thread ed vanderkruk via CnC-List
Technically vapors are an issue. All battery types - wet/sealed/gel/AGM - are subject to ABYC venting guidelines. There are some solutions - venting the battery enclosure or having vented caps for wet cell directed overboard somehow. Ed On Nov 19, 2015 12:50 PM, "Robert Boyer via CnC-List" wrote:

Re: Stus-List Changing weight distribution in Landfall 38

2015-11-19 Thread Robert Boyer via CnC-List
Fred: The existing battery location in the engine compartment can hold 2 batteries--one can be the starting bank and the other part of the house bank. Then if I make 2 or 3 batteries located somewhere forward, they could be dedicated to the house bank (and I could somehow isolate them from sta

Re: Stus-List Changing weight distribution in Landfall 38

2015-11-19 Thread Robert Boyer via CnC-List
I DO use AGMs--so, vapors are not an issue. I have some space just forward of the mast under the settee but close to the boat's centerline that might work for battery storage--I have to check out the dimensions but this would remove weight aft and add it close to the center of gravity. Bob Bo

Re: Stus-List Changing weight distribution in Landfall 38

2015-11-19 Thread Frederick G Street via CnC-List
Bob — I would consider sizing the wiring aft from the forward batteries to allow at least 100 amps, with a maximum 10% voltage drop. This would require at least 4AWG cabling from under the v-berth to the electrical panel aft; better would be 2AWG, which would allow you to pull 30 amps with a 3%

Re: Stus-List Changing weight distribution in Landfall 38

2015-11-19 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List
Bob, as you said, the current from the house batteries should never be high, so the wires should not be an issue. However, if you calculate your load at 30 A and select appropriate gauge of the wire (for distance), make sure that you install an appropriate fuse (probably not larger than 50 A) (

Stus-List Changing weight distribution in Landfall 38

2015-11-19 Thread Robert Boyer via CnC-List
I am equipping my boat for 8 months per year of cruising in the Bahamas. I have added a 19-gallon auxiliary diesel tank where my holding tank was located (under the navigation seat) which adds weight aft. I currently have 4 group 27 batteries which will be eventually upgraded to Group 31's--th

Re: Stus-List Video of C&C 30 racing in Annapolis

2015-11-19 Thread Jack Fitzgerald via CnC-List
I have shipped 6 of these C&C 30 OD boats to Japan this year with more expected to ship in 2016. We have shipped a number of them to Europe as well. This is one hot boat and has taken off internationally. Best regards, Jack Fitzgerald, export manager Fitzgerald Forwarding Co. Inc. FMC license no:1

Stus-List Video of C&C 30 racing in Annapolis

2015-11-19 Thread Rick Brass via CnC-List
The attached video was included in a post from a sailing TV website this morning. I have to say I'm impressed to see so many C&C 30s on the line, and the performance of the boats is impressive. Certainly not "us father's" C&C. And pretty athletic for this fat old man. But impressive none the less.

Stus-List Antifouling Paint

2015-11-19 Thread robert via CnC-List
Steve: Your idea sounds much safer than mixing all three paints in one can. I have already painted Micron 66 over Micron CSC with no issues. Thank you. Rob Abbott AZURA C&C 32 - 84 Halifax, N.S. On 2015-11-19 8:00 AM, S Thomas via CnC-List wrote: Rob, Painting over one kind of pain

Re: Stus-List Antifouling Paint

2015-11-19 Thread S Thomas via CnC-List
Rob, Painting over one kind of paint with another is quite different from what you originally proposed, which was to mix them all together in a can first. I think that is a bad idea unless you are certain that the paints all have essentially the same chemistry in their drying process. I