Re: Stus-List Rules of the Road

Bill Bina is quite correct about doing what the regulations expect of you. That applies to the point where you become "in extremis".  That point must be determined by the Master of the stand on vessel at the time and is always subject to review and judgement by the courts in cases where collisio

Stus-List Compression Post Base Rot

I noticed that the shrouds on my 1977 C&C 24 were a little loose. I did a bit of digging and found that the base of the compression post, in the bilge, has started to rot and has caused the compression post to be about 1/2" lower than it should be. I plan to tackle this repair over winter haul ou

Stus-List Rules of the road.

I was heading south out of Annapolis on a port tack. Power boat which looked like a Crabber type is heading north on a course which will take me across his bow with at least 100 yards or more clearance. As it is that he is heading north I cannot see his stern, and if he is working or not. Looks to

Stus-List Powerboaters Destroying Race Marks

As long as we're bitching about powerboaters, I'll just chime in that Colorado Sail & Yacht Club has had three of our racing marks shattered already this year in what I can only assume were high-speed impacts by negligent or malicious (i.e. asshole) powerboaters. We use 55-gallon plastic drums f

Re: Stus-List Rules of the Road

Got it. Jon Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 18, 2017, at 5:32 PM, BillBinaList via CnC-List > wrote: > > You still need to go back and read rule 13 until you understand it. The > colregs are deliberately vague and some rules supercede others depending on > situation. Your quote is only correct

Re: Stus-List Rules of the Road

That is covered in the colregs. Rule 2, as I have mentioned several times now. :-) Bill Bina On 7/18/2017 4:30 PM, JP Mail via CnC-List wrote: I agree with sticking to the rules, but I will not endanger my passengers by sticking to them

Re: Stus-List Rules of the Road

You still need to go back and read rule 13 until you understand it. The colregs are deliberately vague and some rules supercede others depending on situation. Your quote is only correct in very basic terms. A fishing boat with a net dragging behind does not have complete immunity to the colregs

Re: Stus-List Rules of the Road

*Commercial Fishing with gear*, not Billy and Bubba with some lines over ;) From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of JP Mail via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 4:27 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: JP Mail Subject: Re: Stus-List Rules of the Road Yes. As I said,

Re: Stus-List Rules of the Road

I agree with sticking to the rules, but I will not endanger my passengers by sticking to them while I let an idiot ram my boat. That's all I'm sayin' With respect, Jon Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 18, 2017, at 3:57 PM, Bill Bina - gmail via CnC-List > wrote: > > Failure to really know and UND

Re: Stus-List Rules of the Road

Yes. As I said, license to learn. "Each of these vessels must keep out of the way of the next vessel. For example, a sailboat must keep out of the way of a vessel engaged in fishing, which in turn must keep out of the way of a vessel with restricted maneuverability. And everyone must keep out

Re: Stus-List Rules of the Road

Failure to really know and UNDERSTAND the colregs is why boats hit boats. Congratulations on your license, but you may still have some larnin' to do, son. Colregs depend on everyone knowing and doing what is expected, but allows for those who don't. A stand on vessel that gives way is screwing

Re: Stus-List Rules of the Road

Sometimes they do get what they deserve.  A number of years ago we were in the inner harbor of our home port, a clearly posted no wake zone, headed toward our slip.  We were passed and nearly swamped by a large powerboat throwing up a big wake.  I was irate since our young daughter was on deck at t

Re: Stus-List Rules of the Road

Rules notwithstanding, when safety and common sense indicates to get the hell out of the way, for Pete's sake do it ! Hank EvansM/V Queen Ann's Revenge On Tuesday, July 18, 2017, 2:46:24 PM CDT, JP Mail via CnC-List wrote: This is why boats hit boats. Sorry I mentioned it. Me personally, with

Re: Stus-List Rules of the Road

This is why boats hit boats. Sorry I mentioned it. Me personally, with license sitting in the desk at home, I would give way to a vessel with gear down and dragging a net. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 18, 2017, at 3:28 PM, Bill Bina - gmail via CnC-List > wrote: > > See also Rule 2, and Rul

Re: Stus-List Rules of the Road

BTW, congrats on the 6 pack! Joel On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 3:41 PM, JP Mail via CnC-List wrote: > Correct. This guy had stabilizers out and dragging a net. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jul 18, 2017, at 3:23 PM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > > "Fishing" means a c

Re: Stus-List Rules of the Road

Correct. This guy had stabilizers out and dragging a net. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 18, 2017, at 3:23 PM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List > wrote: > > "Fishing" means a commercial vessel dragging gear, not some guy trolling. > > Joel > >> On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 3:19 PM, JP Mail via CnC-List

Re: Stus-List Rules of the Road

See also Rule 2, and Rule 13. There is no such thing as "right of way" except for one specific instance in the inland rules. The fishing vessel was in the wrong in this case as described. :-) Bill Bina On 7/18/2017 3:19 PM, JP Mail via CnC-List wrote: Vessel engaged in Fishing is restricted i

Re: Stus-List Rules of the Road

*Rule 3 - General Definitions* [image: Return to the top of the page] For the purpose of these Rules [* and 33 CFR §83-90 *], except where the context otherwise requires: (a) The word "vessel" includes every description of watercraft, inc

Re: Stus-List Rules of the Road

"Fishing" means a commercial vessel dragging gear, not some guy trolling. Joel On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 3:19 PM, JP Mail via CnC-List wrote: > Vessel engaged in Fishing is restricted in her ability to move and has the > right away over sailing vessel. > Yeah, just got the 6 pack license. > > Sen

Re: Stus-List Rules of the Road

Vessel engaged in Fishing is restricted in her ability to move and has the right away over sailing vessel. Yeah, just got the 6 pack license. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 18, 2017, at 2:07 PM, David via CnC-List wrote: > > We were powered up on a broad reach with a chute heading eastward dow

Re: Stus-List Update to Broken Mast

When a friend dismasted his Catalina 28 the insurance company offered basically the same thing. He found and modified the rigging of a mast that came off (I think) a J24 or J29 at a huge discount to new. He used the rest of the money to have a professional glass monkey fix issues relating to t

Re: Stus-List Rules of the Road

We were powered up on a broad reach with a chute heading eastward down LIS doing about 9 knots with just Lady Di and I. Clear September weekday so empty waters. And a rare morning sail with great wind from the right direction. Fishing dragger with stabilizers down is slowing bearing down on u

Re: Stus-List Rules of the Road

when we were on our 22 foot sailboat we got swamped by a bis a$$ powers boat's wake because he couldn't be bother to give us any room and passed us about 20 feet off our bow throwing a 4' wake. Then they had the nerve to wave... My wife waved back with 1 finger while hanging off the shrouds.

Re: Stus-List Landfall 38 Engine issues

What about the rest of the boat? Were the batteries drained? It could be something as simple as a corroded key switch that could shut down the panel, but that would not generally kill the engine. Is there a pushbutton kill switch (momentary contact variety) or a cable to kill the engine? Ch

Stus-List Landfall 38 Engine issues

I have a 1984 C&C 38 Landfall with a Westerbeke W27 On Saturday I was out for a sail going out was fine no issues but when we were on our way back to the Marina under power the engine shut down. No bangs no sputtering no warning alarms just stopped. When I went to restart the engine I had no power

Re: Stus-List Rules of the Road

Glad you were able get away without any damages... I have had a few of these here in Chesapeake. Once the "captain" of the power boat actually turned around and yelled at me for not changing course... Cheers, AR > On Jul 18, 2017, at 10:32 AM, robert via CnC-List > wrote: > > Yesterday after

Re: Stus-List Rules of the Road

I hope you got on the radio with a Security warning to the Coast Guard and   Local Marine Police of a boat operating in a dangerous and illegal manner and identified the boat, course and speed to warn others.  That usually gets the offender's attention and sometimes motivates law enforcement to a

Re: Stus-List Rules of the Road

You were absolutely the stand on vessel. You also had(have )the responsibility to avoid collision. You also have the right to yell, "HEY F-CKTARD" BUY A BOOK" as he passes your stern. Just sayin'. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 18, 2017, at 11:51 AM, detroito91 via CnC-List > wrote: > > Common

Re: Stus-List Rules of the Road

Try buying a powerboat. Most powerboaters will sort of reluctantly admit sail has right of way, but no way in hell will a big powerboat EVER yield to a small one - EVER. I learned real fast with my ski boat I was completely invisible to the bigger powerboats. Joe Coquina From: CnC-List [mailto

Stus-List Rules of the Road

The 'big boat rule' would not have meant much if his bow slammed into my port side.smaller tonnage slams into bigger tonnage.can't see a winner in that scenario. Rob Abbott AZURA C&C 32-84 Halifax, N.S. On 2017-07-18 12:53 PM, Frederick G Street via CnC-List wrote: But the Law of Gros

Re: Stus-List Rules of the Road

No name on the boat but I would recognize it if I saw it again. On 2017-07-18 12:36 PM, jhnelson via CnC-List wrote: Any idea of the boat name/colout? Sent from my Samsung device Original message From: robert via CnC-List Date: 2017-07-18 11:30 (GMT-04:00) To: cnc-list@

Stus-List Pulling engine from C&C 40 Aft Cabin

I am planning to pull the engine from my C&C 40 Aft Cabin this fall. The goals are to clean the engine area and redo the sound insulation. I will also change the engine mounts and inspect the PYI dripless. I may overhaul the engine (Westerbeke W33 with about 3200 hours). There is nothing specifical

Re: Stus-List Raymarine Autopilot Question

I would not of survived if the AP didn't do 90+% of the steering on our trip to the Bahamas and back. Mike PERSUASION C&C 37 K/CB Long Sault > On Jul 18, 2017, at 10:45 AM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List > wrote: > > Fred, > > Understood — and I have a self-imposed rule about never using the auto

Re: Stus-List Rules of the Road

But the Law of Gross Tonnages will beat anything… :^) — Fred Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI > On Jul 18, 2017, at 10:51 AM, detroito91 via CnC-List > wrote: > > Common sense overcomes pure stupidly and lack of knowledge. > Jim Schwartz > SEA

Re: Stus-List Rules of the Road

Common sense overcomes pure stupidly and lack of knowledge. Jim Schwartz SEA YA!38 LFWashington nc  Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device Original message From: robert via CnC-List Date: 7/18/17 10:30 AM (GMT-05:00) To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: robert Subject: Stus-List Ru

Re: Stus-List Rules of the Road

There are a lot of rental boats, power and sail, near me. I've learned not to assume that other operators know what they are doing or who has rights. The worst are the SailTime rentals. The cats are generally motoring a straight line. Glad you were paying attention! Joel On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 a

Re: Stus-List Rules of the Road

Any idea of the boat name/colout? Sent from my Samsung device Original message From: robert via CnC-List Date: 2017-07-18 11:30 (GMT-04:00) To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: robert Subject: Stus-List Rules of the Road Yesterday afternoon, having a pleasant sail in H

Re: Stus-List Raymarine Autopilot Question - spinnaker reach

One other positive aspect of a below deck pilot is that of system redundancy. Whereas in a wheel pilot, if your steering cable were to break or the chain to break inside the pedestal, you would need to go scrambling for your "emergency tiller" which is often undersized, aligned backwards or burie

Re: Stus-List Rules of the Road

That happens, people are clueless, and in the USA at least, commercial has nothing to do with it either. Joe Coquina -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of robert via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 10:31 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com

Re: Stus-List Raymarine Autopilot Question - spinnaker reach

Yup. Underdeck with proper setup: rudder indicator, flux gate etc bullet proof and can handle all but extreme (40+ knots) conditions. Even at 30 knots with a short quarter sea (Block Island Sound) it was a marvel watching it "think" it's course corrections down to where I doubt a human could m

Re: Stus-List Raymarine Autopilot Question

Fred, Understood — and I have a self-imposed rule about never using the autopilot when the helm is “under a load” or conditions merit a live person at the wheel. My goal with the autopilot is to be used while under power for an hour here and there, giving me time to leave the helm to grab some

Stus-List Rules of the Road

Yesterday afternoon, having a pleasant sail in Halifax harbor, 5.5 knots, starboard tack with a 25' to 30' cape island power boat approaching at about the same speed on my port side. As we approached each other, I was judging distance and time and it became clear we were on a collision course.

Re: Stus-List The notorious C&C smile - permanent repair

Many years ago I got tired of the annual crack patching. Some years it was worse than others. I tried several different fillers. Like drywall, you HAVE to put something down to hold things together, or the crack comes back. I torqued the bolts carefully. I found an affordable 3/4 inch drive t