Re: Stus-List cockpit drain seacocks

2018-05-24 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Have you checked for growth in the valve body/travel path of the valve ball? Imagine if an oyster or big mussel grew up in there. You could use a dowel from the outside to check it clear or ram it out if needed. Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 C&C 37+ Solomons, MD On May 24, 2018 12:43 AM, "Dan

Re: Stus-List cockpit drain seacocks

2018-05-24 Thread Rick Brass via CnC-List
Dan; The “drain” plugs you mention are actually for lubricating the valve – kind of like the grease cup most of us have on our rudder shaft housing. The valve, as you have probably figured out already, is a tapered plug that looks like a big metal cork with a hole drilled across the cente

Re: Stus-List cockpit drain seacocks

2018-05-24 Thread Rick Brass via CnC-List
The preferred penetration oil by heavy equipment, lift truck and diesel mechanics (based on better than 30 years experience on the service and engineering sides of those industries) is PB Blaster. Available at just about any auto parts, NAPPA, Walmart, Lowes, etc. Liquid Wrench is marginall

Re: Stus-List cockpit drain seacocks

2018-05-24 Thread Neil Andersen via CnC-List
Are you in the water? Mine would freeze after being on the hard for the winter but free up again after being in the water Neil Andersen 20691 Jamieson Rd Rock Hall, MD 21661 From: CnC-List on behalf of dwight veinot via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 8

Re: Stus-List cockpit drain seacocks

2018-05-24 Thread dwight veinot via CnC-List
sounds like you have grocco bronze seacocks, they are really good and you can make them work, try harder I think they might have a loosening nut on the lever...they will need to function to pass survey... Dwight Veinot C&C 35 MKII, Alianna Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS d.ve...@bellaliant.net On

Re: Stus-List cockpit drain seacocks

2018-05-24 Thread G Collins via CnC-List
You can also screw a grease gun fitting into the threaded holes on either side, and pump some grease in. Graham Collins Secret Plans C&C 35-III #11 On 2018-05-24 10:02 AM, Dennis C. via CnC-List wrote: How did you administer the penetrating oil? Did you just spray it on the outside or did you

Re: Stus-List cockpit drain seacocks

2018-05-24 Thread G Collins via CnC-List
Hi Dan I'd take the nuts and washer off, and rig up some sort of press. Graham Collins Secret Plans C&C 35-III #11 On 2018-05-24 1:42 AM, Dan via CnC-List wrote: I'm on the hard. I have these two giant bronze seacocks for my cockpit drain hoses. photos on google drive: https://drive.google.com

Re: Stus-List Real nice 35-1 coming on market soon

2018-05-24 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
Aft end of quarter berth. Dennis C. On Thu, May 24, 2018 at 6:52 PM, Joe Della Barba via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > I am trying and failing to see where I would put a generator! > > Joe > > Coquina > > C&C 35 MK I > > On 5/24/2018 6:29 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List wrote: > > No, it

Re: Stus-List Real nice 35-1 coming on market soon

2018-05-24 Thread Joe Della Barba via CnC-List
I am trying and failing to see where I would put a generator! Joe Coquina C&C 35 MK I On 5/24/2018 6:29 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List wrote: No, it's not Touche' but might even be better. One of the reasons I bought Touche' was my impressions of my friend's 35-1, Hull #61.  He told me today h

Stus-List C&C 35 Mk 3 Spinnaker Like New

2018-05-24 Thread Rod Stright via CnC-List
Clearing out inventory to make room for new. One C&C 35 Mk 3 North Spinnaker, 1 oz., very good condition, was asking $1100 reduced to $800 usd. Pictures available to those interested. strig...@eastlink.ca --- This email has been checked for viruses by Av

Re: Stus-List Rigging tensions for C&C 35 Mk I

2018-05-24 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
PT-2 Dennis C. On Thu, May 24, 2018 at 6:23 PM, jcn--- via CnC-List wrote: > Dennis > Which model of Loos gauge are you using? > > Sent from my iPad > > On May 24, 2018, at 6:18 AM, dwight veinot via CnC-List < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > > Thanks Dennis, very similar numbers to what my 3

Re: Stus-List Rigging tensions for C&C 35 Mk I

2018-05-24 Thread jcn--- via CnC-List
Dennis Which model of Loos gauge are you using? Sent from my iPad > On May 24, 2018, at 6:18 AM, dwight veinot via CnC-List > wrote: > > Thanks Dennis, very similar numbers to what my 35 MKII likes; similar rigs I > guess. I have tried more tension on the uppers, in fact to 1200 and above as

Re: Stus-List Raymarine Autopilot gone mad!

2018-05-24 Thread ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List
I seem to recall that the Raymarine autopilot has to be linearized when first installed, but also if any of the instruments on the Seatalk buss are changed. Linearization consists of turning two 360 degree slow turns (about three to five minutes each). Your owner's manual has the steps to take.

Re: Stus-List Raymarine Autopilot gone mad!

2018-05-24 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List
Start by checking the connection at the motor on wheel pilot on the wheel On Thu, May 24, 2018 at 6:30 PM Gary Russell via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Tom, > There information in your email isn't clear enough to offer a > thoughtful diagnosis, but if you are considering a belo

Stus-List Real nice 35-1 coming on market soon

2018-05-24 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
No, it's not Touche' but might even be better. One of the reasons I bought Touche' was my impressions of my friend's 35-1, Hull #61. He told me today he is thinking of selling. He has owned the boat for 20+ years and has made many, many upgrades. Here's some of the niceties: Generator. Yep,

Re: Stus-List Raymarine Autopilot gone mad!

2018-05-24 Thread Gary Russell via CnC-List
Tom, There information in your email isn't clear enough to offer a thoughtful diagnosis, but if you are considering a below deck auto pilot, I can offer the following advice. I would suggest a wheel pilot is insufficient to handle a boat the size of a 37+, so you should consider a below

Re: Stus-List Raymarine Autopilot gone mad!

2018-05-24 Thread Edd Schillay via CnC-List
Tom, I have the same issue with my autopilot. According to Raymarine, this has something to do with your rudder-over setting. They say if you adjust that and test, it should correct. I haven’t tried it yet, since we just launched last week, but will do so soon. Not very pithy today. Stuck in

Stus-List Raymarine Autopilot gone mad!

2018-05-24 Thread Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List
Recently my X5 autopilot has lost its way. It seems ok at first. Then begins to over correct course changes and then goes down hill from there. We are out on our first cruise of the year over the long US weekend. It started acting up. Are starting the pilot seems to help. It oat for long

Stus-List C&C 34 second propane locker

2018-05-24 Thread Len Mitchell via CnC-List
Dennis, Yes I have done it in our 1981 36. You need to remove the lid and reinstall it with ss hinge(s), it’s screwed on from below and you may be able to get there from the inspection port with a long arm. I used a suitable piece of cardboard sono tube for a mold and wrapped it with glass and e

Re: Stus-List 1981 C&C 34 second propane locker?

2018-05-24 Thread Edward Levert via CnC-List
Dennis: If you will open the port tank locker, you will notice that the hinge is not visible on the outside. My 1981 C&C 34 has a storage locker on the port side of the helm. The locker also contains a wash down spray nozzle and is vented to the atmosphere. Try prying the lid open. Ed Levert 1981

Re: Stus-List 1981 C&C 34 second propane locker?

2018-05-24 Thread Al Serrato via CnC-List
I have the same boat and on mine, the locker has a hinge and I use it for extra lines/dock lines. Sent from my iPad > On May 24, 2018, at 11:49 AM, Ron Ricci via CnC-List > wrote: > > Dennis, > > If you are looking for backup propane storage, let me offer a suggestion. I > only can carry

Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] Re: Coupling bolts shearing

2018-05-24 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
Once you get your new bolts in, get someone to shift F-N-R while you watch the engine and motor mounts. See if one or more of the mounts is allowing excess movement. For once I am glad to not have rubber motor mounts, my engine is hard-bolted to the boat. Joe Coquina From: CnC-List [mailto:cn

Re: Stus-List Coupling bolts shearing

2018-05-24 Thread detroito91 via CnC-List
Great suggestions.  Will do. Was planning on grade 8 bolts.Can do alot of thinking during my 6 hour tow back to my slip!Thanks jim Original message From: Dreuge via CnC-List Date: 5/24/18 11:07 AM (GMT-05:00) To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Dreuge Subject: Re: Stus-List Coupl

Re: Stus-List 1981 C&C 34 second propane locker?

2018-05-24 Thread Ron Ricci via CnC-List
Dennis, If you are looking for backup propane storage, let me offer a suggestion. I only can carry one tank and have a 5 kg fiberglass tank. Theoretically, you can see the level in the tank but have to remember to check it. There is room in my propane locker for three 1 pound camp stove cyli

Re: Stus-List Coupling bolts shearing

2018-05-24 Thread Dreuge via CnC-List
When I was installing my rebuilt Yanmar 3QM30, I called the folks at Transmission Marine Inc in Fort Lauderdale, FL for some advice (and I needed to purchase a replacement dipstick for the paragon). They strongly stressed the importance of precise shaft alignment to avoid future problems. Firs

Re: Stus-List cockpit drain seacocks

2018-05-24 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List
or a wood plug On Thu, May 24, 2018 at 10:43 AM, Dennis C. via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > With the boat out of the water, you have more options. If you poured a > liquid penetrating oil down the scupper, it may coat the plug but chances > are most of it will pass through onto the

Re: Stus-List cockpit drain seacocks

2018-05-24 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
With the boat out of the water, you have more options. If you poured a liquid penetrating oil down the scupper, it may coat the plug but chances are most of it will pass through onto the ground. If you could figure a way to plug the seacock from underneath so the oil would be stopped at the top o

Re: Stus-List cockpit drain seacocks

2018-05-24 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List
Dan, A heat gun or torch will aid the process if it is an all bronze seacock. Good luck! On Thu, May 24, 2018 at 9:41 AM, Dan via CnC-List wrote: > I'll give liquid wrench a try tonight and have at it over the weekend and > get back to you guys. > > Thanks for all help! - I'm glad this list ex

Stus-List 1981 C&C 34 second propane locker?

2018-05-24 Thread DMcMillan via CnC-List
I have a 1981 C&C with a propane locker on starboard side next to the helmsman seat. On the port side there is an identical looking locker but the "lid" does not have any hinges and seems to be glued down. Has anyone converted this to a second propane locker? Thanks Dennis Andante Victori

Re: Stus-List cockpit drain seacocks

2018-05-24 Thread Dan via CnC-List
I'll give liquid wrench a try tonight and have at it over the weekend and get back to you guys. Thanks for all help! - I'm glad this list exists :) Dan On Thu, May 24, 2018 at 10:37 AM, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > WD-40 is, as the name suggests “water displacem

Re: Stus-List cockpit drain seacocks

2018-05-24 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List
WD-40 is, as the name suggests “water displacement” agent. It is not a good lubricant, nor a good penetrating oil. Marek From: Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 09:21 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Hoyt, Mike Subject: Re: Stus-List cockpit drain seacocks Also … did you say WD

Re: Stus-List cockpit drain seacocks

2018-05-24 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List
For example here: https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/penetrating-oil-showdown.350800/ Marek From: bwhitmore via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 09:24 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: bwhitmore Subject: Re: Stus-List cockpit drain seacocks By the way the best penetrating oil accordin

Re: Stus-List cockpit drain seacocks

2018-05-24 Thread bwhitmore via CnC-List
By the way the best penetrating oil according to  a test I saw was not a brand oil, nut a 50/50  mix of acetone and ATF.  I forgot where I saw that, but the test seemed valid at the time. Bruce Whitmore  Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone Original message From: "De

Re: Stus-List cockpit drain seacocks

2018-05-24 Thread Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List
When I was removing front wheel bearings on my Chev Silverado a few years back the first one was stuck and required penetrating oil, heat and a lot of whacks with a very large hammer. This process too several hours and was NOT non-destructive A year later when a MVI forced me to replace the ot

Re: Stus-List cockpit drain seacocks

2018-05-24 Thread Dan via CnC-List
I removed the "drain" plugs on both sides of the seacocks (4 in total), sprayed inside through those, then I sprayed the seams. I should have loosened that tension bolt on the end. The thought didn't even cross my mind, but now it makes complete sense. I can try spraying from undneath/outside the b

Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] Re: cockpit drain seacocks

2018-05-24 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
When one of my seacocks was stuck closed I poured some penetrating oil down the scupper and let it sit overnight. The next day it worked fine ☺ Joe Coquina C&C 35 MK I From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dennis C. via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 9:03 AM T

Re: Stus-List cockpit drain seacocks

2018-05-24 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
How did you administer the penetrating oil? Did you just spray it on the outside or did you put any down the scupper or remove the hose and put it in the top? Dennis C. On Thu, May 24, 2018 at 7:18 AM, Dan via CnC-List wrote: > Ok, I will give it another go with these tips. The good news is I

Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] Re: Coupling bolts shearing

2018-05-24 Thread schiller via CnC-List
Joe brings up a good point.  Have someone look at the failed bolts.  It should be evident as to whether the failure was shear or fatigue due to a misaligned engine or twisting due to broken motor mount. The failed surfaces will look different between a shear failure and low cycle fatigue. Ne

Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] Re: Coupling bolts shearing

2018-05-24 Thread Russ & Melody via CnC-List
Set a couple o' dial indicators on the v-drive, near the coupling, and cycle her in & out of gear. The dial indicators will show any deflection and the amount. You might have to move them around and try different angles to get the full picture. Cheers, Russ At 05:20 AM 5/24/2018, you wr

Stus-List Radar Reflector

2018-05-24 Thread robert via CnC-List
A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity, an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty. Rob (unless some laws of human nature have changed in the last few years) On 2018-05-24 1:16 AM, Leslie Paal via CnC-List wrote: ... and I have a very logical explanation why you shoul

Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] Re: Coupling bolts shearing

2018-05-24 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
Back when I worked on boats we tried EVERYTHING – new bolts, better bolts, safety wire, etc etc. to solve an issue like this. What turned out to be the issue was one bad motor mount that let the engine yank way out of position going into gear. Joe Coquina From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@

Re: Stus-List cockpit drain seacocks

2018-05-24 Thread Dan via CnC-List
Ok, I will give it another go with these tips. The good news is I haven't damaged anything so far and the penetrating oil is still probabbly getting in there and doing it's thing... The space around these seacocks is very limited so removing them would be a real bi*ch compared to servicing them so

Re: Stus-List cockpit drain seacocks

2018-05-24 Thread Kevin Paxton via CnC-List
forgot to mention that I followed this write up once I got it loose. https://marinehowto.com/servicing-tapered-cone-seacocks/ On Thu, May 24, 2018 at 7:39 AM John Christopher via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Hi Dan, > > I believe I have the same ones. I did the same as you with no p

Re: Stus-List cockpit drain seacocks

2018-05-24 Thread John Christopher via CnC-List
Hi Dan, I believe I have the same ones. I did the same as you with no progress. I then got a hollow metal tube at the Home Depot to use as leverage over the handles, and seemingly without much effort (leverage working at its best$ I was able to work them open and closed. /J > On May 24, 2018,

Re: Stus-List cockpit drain seacocks

2018-05-24 Thread Kevin Paxton via CnC-List
I actually had the same problem just with one of my forward seacocks. It will break loose, but it will take some time. I was at it for a couple hours at least. I didn't want to rip it off due to them being so difficult to remove without destroying things. The one thing I will say is don't bang on t

Re: Stus-List Radar Reflector

2018-05-24 Thread dwight veinot via CnC-List
I think some laws of physics are being looked at differently now that we have a better understanding of the role played by very small particles like bosons and neutrinos and since we think we have found the missing energy in the universe calculations... Dwight Veinot C&C 35 MKII, Alianna Head of St

Re: Stus-List Rigging tensions for C&C 35 Mk I

2018-05-24 Thread dwight veinot via CnC-List
Thanks Dennis, very similar numbers to what my 35 MKII likes; similar rigs I guess. I have tried more tension on the uppers, in fact to 1200 and above as you note and that works fine in 20+ knots apparent wind. Let me also say that if you get head stay tension correct then with about 1000 lbs on

Re: Stus-List cockpit drain seacocks

2018-05-24 Thread John and Maryann Read via CnC-List
Worst case might be to remove the seacocks, then you can adequately heat them etc to disassemble and rebuild?? John and Maryann Legacy III 1982 C&C 34 Noank, CT From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Matti Airas via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 4:38

Re: Stus-List installing a Lewmar V series windlass on a LF38

2018-05-24 Thread Persuasion37 via CnC-List
Me too Mike PERSUASION C&C 37 K/CB Long Sault > On May 23, 2018, at 9:06 PM, G Collins via CnC-List > wrote: > > More than one! > Graham Collins > Secret Plans > C&C 35-III #11 >> On 2018-05-23 10:46 AM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List wrote: >> John, >> >> One lister here installed a windlass shel

Re: Stus-List Coupling bolts shearing

2018-05-24 Thread detroito91 via CnC-List
No..but i'm going to follow up on that. Used grade 8.Jim Original message From: Russ & Melody via CnC-List Date: 5/24/18 12:37 AM (GMT-05:00) To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Russ & Melody Subject: Re: Stus-List Coupling bolts shearing Hi Jim, My first question is, "Did s

Re: Stus-List cockpit drain seacocks

2018-05-24 Thread Matti Airas via CnC-List
Hi, I'd replace the seacocks. Even if you'd never use them in regular conditions, you're much better off if, say, a hose breaks and you need to contain the leak. Cheers, Matti On Thu, 24 May 2018 at 07:43, Dan via CnC-List wrote: > I'm on the hard. I have these two giant bronze seacocks for m