If you really want to test whether an application is running from the
distribution dmg, I would have thought the easiest way is to put a
hidden file on the dmg in the same directory as the application bundle
and merely test for the existence of that hidden file at start up.
On 24 Feb
On 3/4/09 11:37 AM, Jeremy Pereira said:
If you really want to test whether an application is running from the
distribution dmg, I would have thought the easiest way is to put a
hidden file on the dmg in the same directory as the application bundle
and merely test for the existence of that hidden
At 03:06 -0800 24/02/09, cocoa-dev-requ...@lists.apple.com wrote:
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On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 12:34 AM, Tommy Nordgren
tommy.nordg...@comhem.se wrote:
On Feb 24, 2009, at 3:34 AM, Shawn Erickson wrote:
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 6:22 PM, Tommy Nordgren
tommy.nordg...@comhem.se wrote:
The following code will test if you are running from the DMG:
NSString *
If I had been paying more attention, I could've intervened sooner.
http://www.nightproductions.net/blog/2007/05/25/introducing-polish-a-new-framework/
Framework to do what the OP asked. My blog article, which prompted the
whole thing, is linked from that page. You can see the comments there
On Feb 18, 2009, at 7:28 AM, Ben Lachman wrote:
Hi all:
I'm wanting to move away from DMGs to ZIP delivery. As part of this
move I'd like to have my app, SousChef, prompt the user on first run
to move itself to /Applications (or ~/Applications as appropriate).
In a short search I
Let me give you an example why I disagree with the advice. Yes, well
written applications can run from anywhere and all apps should!
However its a user experience issue. Not everyone wants to write a pkg
installer for a variety of reasons.
So first here is a story. I have a friend I
I am not that experienced as a Mac Developer but I can give my
thoughts as a switcher. When I first switched over to OS X a few
years ago I thought it was odd that an application did not *need* to
be installed rather copied to the Applications folder. It was obvious
to me that I needed
CrossOver Mac (from CodeWeavers) has a nice solution to the problem of users
forgetting where they have put their applications. When the DMG is mounted,
they pop up a box as shown here:
http://www.alpinesoft.co.uk/forum_images/crossover_installer.png
Problem solved? - assuming you know how to
Actually there is an easy way to find the apps runtime path:
[[NSBundle mainBundle] bundlePath]
You can extract the info from the returned string.
On Feb 24, 2009, at 1:04 AM, Alex Kac wrote:
Let me give you an example why I disagree with the advice. Yes, well
written applications can run
On Feb 23, 2009, at 6:30 PM, Paul Sanders wrote:
CrossOver Mac (from CodeWeavers) has a nice solution to the problem
of users forgetting where they have put their applications. When
the DMG is mounted, they pop up a box as shown here:
On Feb 23, 2009, at 5:51 PM, Ken Thomases wrote:
A number of Mac apps are delivered in disk images configured that
way. Firefox has already been mentioned. As I recall, we were also
inspired by the disk image for Bare Bones' TextWrangler http://www.barebones.com/products/textwrangler/
.
The following code will test if you are running from the DMG:
NSString * volName = @Mother;
NSString * appName = @MyApp.app;
if ([[[NSBundle mainBundle] bundlePath] isEqualTo: [ NSString
stringWithFormat:@/Volumes/%@/%@,volName,appName]) {
//Here you can show an alert telling the user to
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 6:22 PM, Tommy Nordgren
tommy.nordg...@comhem.se wrote:
The following code will test if you are running from the DMG:
NSString * volName = @Mother;
NSString * appName = @MyApp.app;
if ([[[NSBundle mainBundle] bundlePath] isEqualTo: [ NSString
On Feb 24, 2009, at 3:34 AM, Shawn Erickson wrote:
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 6:22 PM, Tommy Nordgren
tommy.nordg...@comhem.se wrote:
The following code will test if you are running from the DMG:
NSString * volName = @Mother;
NSString * appName = @MyApp.app;
if ([[[NSBundle mainBundle]
On Feb 23, 2009, at 6:30 PM, Paul Sanders wrote:
CrossOver Mac (from CodeWeavers) has a nice solution to the problem
of users forgetting where they have put their applications. When
the DMG is mounted, they pop up a box as shown here:
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 10:08 PM, Tommy Nordgren
tommy.nordg...@comhem.se wrote:
It will be /Volumes/Mother 1/... I've tested.
This can be handled by using a regexp class for the matching instead of a
simple
equality test.
Also, while it's possible to mount a disk image at
On Feb 24, 2009, at 4:53 AM, Kyle Sluder wrote:
5) Not just using the system-provided facilities to ask the direct
question (Is the volume on which this app's bundle resides
removable?) but relying on aforementioned assumptions to ask an
indirect question (Does the path of the bundle of this
On Feb 24, 2009, at 3:34 AM, Shawn Erickson wrote:
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 6:22 PM, Tommy Nordgren
tommy.nordg...@comhem.se wrote:
The following code will test if you are running from the DMG:
NSString * volName = @Mother;
NSString * appName = @MyApp.app;
if ([[[NSBundle mainBundle]
Perhaps the issue is that you are assuming an offer to do something is
subtle way of telling you where to put your stuff. In reality it
isn't. It's purely offering a short cut/automation if you'd like it.
Say no, and it would never ask you again. But anyway, this is getting
quite off
On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 10:49 PM, Ben Lachman blach...@mac.com wrote:
The original question stands, does anyone have code that would be helpful in
implementing such a feature?
To be fair, the original question was indeed answered by Nick Zitzmann
at the very outset: you can't move a running
Hi,
So yes, as people mentioned you shouldn't move an application while it
is running, so the solution is obviously to move it when it is not
running. You will need a little tool that you launch with NSTask that
does the move for you. As you noted, Sparkle does everything you want,
On Feb 21, 2009, at 2:46 PM, Nick Zitzmann wrote:
Looks like the documentation writers changed their minds about this:
http://developer.apple.com/documentation/DeveloperTools/Conceptual/PackageMakerUserGuide/Introduction/chapter_1_section_1.html
It used to say there that installation
On 23 Feb 2009, at 05:47:22, Adam Leonard wrote:
(If you want another opinion, I don't think what you are doing is a
bad idea. John Gruber made a point in a recent article (http://daringfireball.net/2009/02/untitled_document_syndrome
) that most users don't want to mess with the file system
Ben,
With all due respect, it's not your job to organize your users'
virtual desktop, any more than it is to organize their real desktop,
both of which may be cluttered. Some people put everything in its
place, others leave stuff lying around, that's just a fact of life. In
time, novice
That may be true - but many people would be overjoyed if an app would
offer to install itself into an appropriate place. Sometimes people
are cluttered because they don't have someone to help. If an app
offered to help - just once - I don't see that as an intrusion, but a
more Mac-like
Am 21.02.2009 um 17:33 Uhr schrieb Alex Kac:
If an app offered to help - just once - I don't see that as an
intrusion, but a more Mac-like feature. Its not intrusive.
I disagree. It's not an applications job to tell me where to put it.
If, for some reason, it *must* be put in
Alex Kac wrote:
That may be true - but many people would be overjoyed if an app would
offer to install itself into an appropriate place. Sometimes people
are cluttered because they don't have someone to help. If an app
offered to help - just once - I don't see that as an intrusion, but a
more
Gregory Weston wrote:
To which I reiterate my prior comment: For more than a year now, Apple
has been recommending the use of installer packages for all deployments.
Apple is recommending installer packages instead of drag-and-drop
installation of app bundles? Since when? Can you point to
On Feb 21, 2009, at 1:15 PM, Kevin Walzer wrote:
Apple is recommending installer packages instead of drag-and-drop
installation of app bundles? Since when? Can you point to any docs
about this?
Looks like the documentation writers changed their minds about this:
Of course if you go with the OP's idea - then its almost like an
installer pkg, but in a DD install method.
On Feb 21, 2009, at 2:46 PM, Nick Zitzmann wrote:
It's a double-edged sword anyway. DnD installs are popular with Mac
and NeXT veterans who are used to them, but they tend to confuse
On Feb 21, 2009, at 3:15 PM, Kevin Walzer wrote:
Gregory Weston wrote:
To which I reiterate my prior comment: For more than a year now,
Apple has been recommending the use of installer packages for all
deployments.
Apple is recommending installer packages instead of drag-and-drop
Am 21.02.2009 um 22:23 Uhr schrieb Alex Kac:
Of course if you go with the OP's idea - then its almost like an
installer pkg, but in a DD install method.
I still don't like it. And if every application did that, each one
would do it slightly differently which is *not* a Mac like
(Sorry lost track of this post... meant to follow up more quickly)
All I want to do is offer to move the app for the user, once. I have
no problem with anyone running the app from anywhere they'd like.
However, if you've ever looked at a novice user's computer you'll
notice that they
On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 1:52 AM, Jeff Johnson
publicpost...@lapcatsoftware.com wrote:
That's an odd request, because doesn't it make more sense to install to
/Applications if the app is running from /Volumes/MyDMG rather than from
~/Downloads? :-) Indeed, one of the reasons to switch from dmg
Ben Lachman wrote:
I'm wanting to move away from DMGs to ZIP delivery. As part of this
move I'd like to have my app, SousChef, prompt the user on first run
to move itself to /Applications (or ~/Applications as appropriate).
In a short search I can't find any code examples hanging about to do
On Feb 18, 2009, at 3:16 AM, Kyle Sluder wrote:
On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 1:52 AM, Jeff Johnson
publicpost...@lapcatsoftware.com wrote:
That's an odd request, because doesn't it make more sense to
install to
/Applications if the app is running from /Volumes/MyDMG rather than
from
Hi all:
I'm wanting to move away from DMGs to ZIP delivery. As part of this
move I'd like to have my app, SousChef, prompt the user on first run
to move itself to /Applications (or ~/Applications as appropriate).
In a short search I can't find any code examples hanging about to do
Ben,
That's an odd request, because doesn't it make more sense to install
to /Applications if the app is running from /Volumes/MyDMG rather than
from ~/Downloads? :-) Indeed, one of the reasons to switch from dmg to
zip distribution is that the app disappears when the dmg is unmounted.
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