Re: Very basic need, very difficult to achieve.

Oh and I just ran a few of my iOS apps in this rather tight config on 10.11.3 and Xcode 7.3.1 and it's really pretty fast. I certainly was surprised. We're talking 1 project that includes 2 projects that links to a framework that links to pjSIP and builds that as a static lib. It's freaking fa

Re: Very basic need, very difficult to achieve.

Just to follow up, on what I said I'd do. I've finally updated one of my VMs to 10.11.3 and Xcode 7.3.1. I'm running this in VMWare 5.0.5 of all things off of the 17" thunderbolt laptop with 16 GB of RAM, a 1TB internal drive, a 480 GB SSD and an 8 TB external Thunderbolt drive. The VMs are

Re: Very basic need, very difficult to achieve.

> On May 6, 2016, at 11:19 AM, Richard Charles wrote: > > >> On May 5, 2016, at 10:33 PM, Charles Srstka wrote: >> >>> On May 5, 2016, at 9:39 PM, Richard Charles wrote: >>> >>> On May 5, 2016, at 6:07 PM, Richard Charles wrote: Can you run this application? “Ope

Re: Very basic need, very difficult to achieve.

I can't say that this is complete or there won't be any gotchas for specific use cases, but here's what I can think of. 1. Preserving access in the App Store If you don't "Purchase" the OS installer before the next release you won't be able to download a new copy in the future.

Re: Very basic need, very difficult to achieve.

> On May 5, 2016, at 10:33 PM, Charles Srstka wrote: > >> On May 5, 2016, at 9:39 PM, Richard Charles wrote: >> >> >>> On May 5, 2016, at 6:07 PM, Richard Charles wrote: >>> >>> Can you run this application? >>> >>> “OpenGL Extensions Viewer" >>> >>> http://www.realtech-vr.com/glview/ >>>

Re: Very basic need, very difficult to achieve.

> On May 5, 2016, at 9:39 PM, Richard Charles wrote: > > >> On May 5, 2016, at 6:07 PM, Richard Charles wrote: >> >> Can you run this application? >> >> “OpenGL Extensions Viewer" >> >> http://www.realtech-vr.com/glview/ >> >> I could never get an app that uses OpenGL to work with a virtual

Re: Very basic need, very difficult to achieve.

> On May 5, 2016, at 6:07 PM, Richard Charles wrote: > > Can you run this application? > > “OpenGL Extensions Viewer" > > http://www.realtech-vr.com/glview/ > > I could never get an app that uses OpenGL to work with a virtual machine. > On May 5, 2016, at 8:16 PM, Charles Srstka wrote: >

Re: Very basic need, very difficult to achieve.

> On May 5, 2016, at 7:07 PM, Richard Charles wrote: > > >> On May 5, 2016, at 3:15 PM, Alex Zavatone wrote: >> >> Using VMWare Fusion 5.0.5, I've got Mac OS X 10.8.5, 10.9.x and Windows 7 >> running in VMs without an issue. > > Can you run this application? > > “OpenGL Extensions Viewer" >

Re: Very basic need, very difficult to achieve.

> On May 5, 2016, at 3:15 PM, Alex Zavatone wrote: > > Using VMWare Fusion 5.0.5, I've got Mac OS X 10.8.5, 10.9.x and Windows 7 > running in VMs without an issue. Can you run this application? “OpenGL Extensions Viewer" http://www.realtech-vr.com/glview/ I could never get an app that uses

Re: Very basic need, very difficult to achieve.

On May 5, 2016, at 4:22 PM, Richard Charles wrote: > >> On May 3, 2016, at 6:13 PM, Quincey Morris >> wrote: >> >> In the end, I gave up on this and went to virtualization instead. VMWare was >> what I chose, and it worked great, although it was a bit slow. I also >> thought there was a way

Re: Very basic need, very difficult to achieve.

> On May 3, 2016, at 6:13 PM, Quincey Morris > wrote: > > In the end, I gave up on this and went to virtualization instead. VMWare was > what I chose, and it worked great, although it was a bit slow. I also thought > there was a way to run virtualization in OS X Server somehow, but I couldn’t

Re: Very basic need, very difficult to achieve.

(A postscript to this thread. I wasn’t sure which of the original posts to frame this as a reply to, so I decided to pick on Kyle.) On May 3, 2016, at 17:17 , Kyle Sluder wrote: > > Virtualization of recent versions of OS X is permitted on Apple-branded > hardware. That’s probably your best bet

Re: Very basic need, very difficult to achieve.

Considering that we all will need to perform this joyous process when we least expect it and have the least time to do it. Would it be possible to bulletpoint the process to serve as a reference? One thing I have noticed with some of the more recent versions of OS X (10.9 I think) is that once

Re: Very basic need, very difficult to achieve.

Glad you got it to work. I have seen the installer 'could not be verified' before. The only time I saw that was after using command line copy (cp) to copy the installer app. But except for that one experience, using createmediainstaller has worked well. I also copy the installer to someplace

Re: Very basic need, very difficult to achieve.

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Re: Very basic need, very difficult to achieve.

> On 3 May 2016, at 8:28 PM, Graham Cox wrote: > > So probably a redownload isn’t going to help, but I’m doing it anyway. Success! Finally. I created a new bootable installer using createinstallmedia and a fresh Mavericks download. I did the Pacific Daylight Time change just in case (though

Re: Very basic need, very difficult to achieve.

> On May 3, 2016, at 10:55 PM, sqwarqDev wrote: > > >> On 4 May 2016, at 10:48, Charles Srstka wrote: >> >> In the earlier downloadable OS X installers, the InstallESD was bootable; in >> the current ones it’s not. I don’t remember when that changed, > > 10.7 I believe. It was definitely bo

Re: Very basic need, very difficult to achieve.

> On 4 May 2016, at 10:48, Charles Srstka wrote: > > In the earlier downloadable OS X installers, the InstallESD was bootable; in > the current ones it’s not. I don’t remember when that changed, 10.7 I believe. > Aha, ArsTechnica to the rescue. Also, don’t quote me on it, but I believe tha

Re: Very basic need, very difficult to achieve.

Aha, ArsTechnica to the rescue. Here’s the full skinny on how it’s done: http://arstechnica.com/apple/2012/07/how-to-create-a-bootable-backup-mountain-lion-install-disk/ Best Phil > On 4 May 2016, at 10:38, sqwarqDev wrote: > > >> On 4 May 2016, at 10:34, sqwarqDev wrote: >> >> I don’

Re: Very basic need, very difficult to achieve.

> On May 3, 2016, at 10:28 PM, Graham Cox wrote: > >> On 4 May 2016, at 12:52 PM, sqwarqDev > > wrote: >> >> Yeah, I’ve been through this. I now have disks with every OS from 10.6 >> through to 10.11 and a couple of old MBPs to run them on. Treat them like >> gold

Re: Very basic need, very difficult to achieve.

On May 3, 2016, at 20:28 , Graham Cox wrote: > > Going for VMWare, does Fusion do the job, or do I need Fusion Pro? Just Fusion. “Pro” has enterprise features you don’t need, unless you’re running a coding slave farm up there in the tropics. > Within the installer app, there is an embedded .dm

Re: Very basic need, very difficult to achieve.

> On 4 May 2016, at 10:34, sqwarqDev wrote: > > I don’t know exactly what that does or if its the same function From the new DU’s help, step 1 refers to the destination, step 2 the InstallESD: Select the volume in the sidebar you want to restore, then select Edit > Restore. This is the volum

Re: Very basic need, very difficult to achieve.

> On 4 May 2016, at 10:28, Graham Cox wrote: > > This seems to be the bulk of the installer. I take it that’s the *REAL* > install image. Can I install directly from that, and if so, how? Yes you can. The old way was mount the InstallESD image in the Finder and then use Disk Utility’s ‘Resto

Re: Very basic need, very difficult to achieve.

> On 4 May 2016, at 12:52 PM, sqwarqDev wrote: > > Yeah, I’ve been through this. I now have disks with every OS from 10.6 > through to 10.11 and a couple of old MBPs to run them on. Treat them like > gold dust. You may well hit that “could not be verified” message again - I > know I did, with

Re: Very basic need, very difficult to achieve.

> On 4 May 2016, at 10:08, Carl Hoefs wrote: > > I don't know why, but you'll find that none of your previously purchased > items will be grayed out there. What’s installed isn’t a historical record attached to your account. As indicated in my earlier post, it’s actually a live search of the

Re: Very basic need, very difficult to achieve.

> On May 3, 2016, at 7:18 PM, Graham Cox wrote: > > I went to the app store (arrgh!!) to redownload the full installer image (why > oh why is this not available as a developer download from apple dev? Using > the app store is an abysmal non-choice to force on developers). I could not > downlo

Re: Very basic need, very difficult to achieve.

> On 4 May 2016, at 09:18, Graham Cox wrote: > > I could not download 10.9 as the button was greyed out with “downloaded” on > it. Yeah, about that. Whenever you download from the App Store, save a copy of the installer BEFORE you run it. Copy it off onto some removable media device. If

Re: Very basic need, very difficult to achieve.

> On 4 May 2016, at 09:18, Graham Cox wrote: > > I could not download 10.9 as the button was greyed out with “downloaded” on > it. Yeah, about that. Whenever you download from the App Store, save a copy of the installer BEFORE you run it. Copy it off onto some removable media device. If y

Re: Very basic need, very difficult to achieve.

> On 4 May 2016, at 09:18, Graham Cox wrote: > > but at that point it gave an error that the installer could not be verified > and ‘may’ be corrupt. Yeah, I’ve been through this. I now have disks with every OS from 10.6 through to 10.11 and a couple of old MBPs to run them on. Treat them like

Re: Very basic need, very difficult to achieve.

> On 4 May 2016, at 10:31 AM, Graham Cox wrote: > >> Downgrading the OS (even on a second partition) isn’t actually that >> simple of a request. If your computer was released after OS X Mavericks, >> it definitely cannot support running OS X Mavericks. > > In this case it’s a MId-2010 iMac, sho

Re: Very basic need, very difficult to achieve.

That should work. Sent from my iPhone > On May 3, 2016, at 8:31 PM, Graham Cox wrote: > > >> On 4 May 2016, at 10:17 AM, Kyle Sluder wrote: >> >> Downgrading the OS (even on a second partition) isn’t actually that >> simple of a request. If your computer was released after OS X Mavericks, >

Re: Very basic need, very difficult to achieve.

Along those lines, is it at all possible to disable the damn memory compression? Ever since memory compression has been enabled on the OS level, my older machines that I have had to upgrade have horrible performance, even with 16 GB of RAM. This memory compression is simply EVIL on machines w

Re: Very basic need, very difficult to achieve.

On May 3, 2016, at 17:21 , Alex Zavatone wrote: > > Whaat? Any OS installers at all? > > What types of errors does it throw? IIRC, however you get the older installer, you still have to run it as an app under the current OS, and it just says the installer is too old to run as an applicat

Re: Very basic need, very difficult to achieve.

> On 4 May 2016, at 10:17 AM, Kyle Sluder wrote: > > Downgrading the OS (even on a second partition) isn’t actually that > simple of a request. If your computer was released after OS X Mavericks, > it definitely cannot support running OS X Mavericks. In this case it’s a MId-2010 iMac, should be

Re: Very basic need, very difficult to achieve.

On May 3, 2016, at 8:13 PM, Quincey Morris wrote: > On May 3, 2016, at 16:28 , Graham Cox wrote: >> >> I need to install a 10.9 image on a disk partition for development testing. >> >> How? > > I did start a thread about this, which might be the one you are remembering. > > You’re fighting

Re: Very basic need, very difficult to achieve.

On Tue, May 3, 2016, at 06:28 PM, Graham Cox wrote: > My main dev machine runs the latest OS - 10.11.4 > > I need to install a 10.9 image on a disk partition for development > testing. > > How? > > Apple’s dev site is getting worse all the time - wasting its time selling > you something you alre

Re: Very basic need, very difficult to achieve.

Can you make a bootable USB drive and install from there? https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201372 Sandor Szatmari > On May 3, 2016, at 19:28, Graham Cox wrote: > > My main dev machine runs the latest OS - 10.11.4 > > I need to install a 10.9 image on a disk partition for development testing.

Re: Very basic need, very difficult to achieve.

On May 3, 2016, at 16:28 , Graham Cox wrote: > > I need to install a 10.9 image on a disk partition for development testing. > > How? I did start a thread about this, which might be the one you are remembering. You’re fighting a number of road blocks. The important one is that a Mac cannot ru

Very basic need, very difficult to achieve.

My main dev machine runs the latest OS - 10.11.4 I need to install a 10.9 image on a disk partition for development testing. How? Apple’s dev site is getting worse all the time - wasting its time selling you something you already have - OS X - but hiding away basic resources, like an OS 9 inst