Dirk, I apologize for using you as an example, and implying that you were
using your 'hat'. You were not.
No trouble. Meanwhile I've asked Andrew to get you subscribed here - but
his interest are not with this list.
So I'll do the deed - any objections to inviting Tim in here ? Feel free
to drop Tim of the Cc to preserve dignity/privacy.
Dw
On Tuesday, January 28, 2003, at 01:06 PM, Greg Stein wrote:
On Tue, Jan 28, 2003 at 08:55:33AM -0500, Ben Hyde wrote:
...
are accounting records available?
I thought there were, I know we discussed having them be public in the
first year. It maybe that some reason arose to keep them underwraps.
O'brien, Tim wrote:
I have no idea of what the discussion is at community@, I'm not allowed to
subscribe to that list.
I just manually moderated Tim's mails through to communtiy@ and if nobody
objects I will subscribe him too. I think we had enough positive feedback for
this...
cheers,
Erik
Again
Dirk-Willem van Gulik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> So I'll do the deed - any objections to inviting Tim in here ? Feel free
> to drop Tim of the Cc to preserve dignity/privacy.
I wouldn't mind if you also forget to unsubscribe him after this
discussion ends.
--
Joe Schaefer
> No trouble. Meanwhile I've asked Andrew to get you subscribed here - but
> his interest are not with this list.
I don't even think that Andrew subscribes here.
> So I'll do the deed - any objections to inviting Tim in here ? Feel free
> to drop Tim of the Cc to preserve dignity/privacy.
Fine w
On 28 Jan 2003, Joe Schaefer wrote:
> Dirk-Willem van Gulik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > So I'll do the deed - any objections to inviting Tim in here ? Feel free
> > to drop Tim of the Cc to preserve dignity/privacy.
>
> I wouldn't mind if you also forget to unsubscribe him after this
> dis
Dirk-Willem van Gulik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On 28 Jan 2003, Joe Schaefer wrote:
>
> > Dirk-Willem van Gulik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> > > So I'll do the deed - any objections to inviting Tim in here ? Feel free
> > > to drop Tim of the Cc to preserve dignity/privacy.
> >
> > I wou
+1
Get the guy in :)
Mvgr,
Martin
> -Original Message-
> From: Dirk-Willem van Gulik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 01:30
> To: community@apache.org
> Cc: O'brien, Tim
> Subject: Re: You can at.
>
>
>
>
> On 28 Jan 2003, Joe Schaefer wrote:
>
> > D
> In the community@ archives you can find the vote on whether this list
> should be open or closed.
WHAT archives? As I have commented on before, eyebrowse has none for
community@ (http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse/SummarizeList?listId=108).
Are they elsewhere? If so, where?
--- Noel
Didn't we settle this most contentious issue some time ago with a few
megabytes of text and a long complex vote coupled with a solid turn
out? If so it's painful and cruel to reopen the issue. - ben
Tim,
I'd perceived some hostility in the latter part of your message, but that's
cleared up. :-)
> I was just responding to a Wiki page posted this morning that mentioned
that
> discussions were occuring on board@ and members@, and some were talking
> about shutting down the Wiki.
Not being on
Too bad, the community@ list advocated it and should therefore maintain
it. You're welcome to call a vote to invite him (here's my +1)
-aaron
On Tuesday, January 28, 2003, at 06:06 AM, Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
He cannot take it up on community@ -- that list is closed as well.
He's not a committer
Dirk-Willem van Gulik wrote:
So I'll do the deed - any objections to inviting Tim in here ?
As the factual proposer: sure!
Related to that: _who_ is able to request access for invited parties? I
could as well have come up with a vote, but was reluctant to do so since
I felt there was some discuss
--On Tuesday, January 28, 2003 5:15 PM -0500 "Noel J. Bergman"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
In the community@ archives you can find the vote on whether this
list should be open or closed.
WHAT archives? As I have commented on before, eyebrowse has none
for community@
(http://nagoya.apache.org/eyeb
On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, Steven Noels wrote:
> Related to that: _who_ is able to request access for invited parties?
AFAIK Anyone on this list. Or at least that was the consensus after
150Mbyte or more of dicussion on open and closedness :-)
Dw.
Dirk-Willem van Gulik wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, Steven Noels wrote:
Related to that: _who_ is able to request access for invited parties?
AFAIK Anyone on this list. Or at least that was the consensus after
150Mbyte or more of dicussion on open and closedness :-)
I just saw Stefano's vote round
> We're not really trying to hide anything. What you might
> be able to attribute to malice, attribute to, umm,
> absentmindedness.
For the record, malice never occured to me as an option. I'd asked about
archives previously, without a response. So when the comment was ever so
casually made tha
On Tue, 28 Jan 2003, Justin Erenkrantz wrote:
> It's probably an oversight, nothing more. Drop a message to apmail@
> (oh heck, I'll CC them in this message right now) and they should be
> able to set it up. Also community@ should be added to the publically
> available archives in http://www.apac
Roy T. Fielding wrote:
In any case, being a charity is only justified if individuals are
contributing money. Right now, they aren't.
Would that be as simple as opening up some PayPall account? I'm sure
some of use would be happy to contribute something. With the current
intention of getting our
Greig wrote,
> I'm not a "Wiki == Documentation" guy (I think there are many more uses),
> but it has significant utility over mailing lists...
I'm with you in that I think !(Wiki == Documentation) but I dont think Wiki !=
Documentation either.
Like many others I'd never really had much cause to
Steven Noels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Dirk-Willem van Gulik wrote:
>
> > So I'll do the deed - any objections to inviting Tim in here ?
>
> As the factual proposer: sure!
Noone objects to Tim's invitation. I personally would like to
ensure that since he's here now, he can also expect to s
Henri Gomez wrote:
Questions :
- Did there is a need for a weblog package installed at apache.org
where commiters could put notes about THEIR ASF related works ?
I have no problem with PMCs having weblogs as part of their public
face. I am concerned that this diverts attention from the code and
Brian Behlendorf wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jan 2003, Justin Erenkrantz wrote:
It's probably an oversight, nothing more. Drop a message to apmail@
(oh heck, I'll CC them in this message right now) and they should be
able to set it up. Also community@ should be added to the publically
available archives
Maybe a system that allows only certain people to publish and others to
create drafts that can only be set to published by the PMC ?
Mvgr,
Martin
> -Original Message-
> From: Ben Hyde [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 14:38
> To: community@apache.org
> Subject:
Let's (re)start the poll here since it's the commiters list
was innapropriate ;(
Subject: weblog package on apache.org
The goal of this poll is to get commiters feedback on
having a weblog package on apache.org.
The basic idea is to provide ASF commiters a tool which
could be used to expose their '
* Henri Gomez ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote :
> Let's (re)start the poll here since it's a list every commiters
> (should) read.
>
> Subject: weblog package on apache.org
>
[..]
> The basic idea is to provide ASF commiters a tool which
> could be used to expose their 'ASF related' works, ideas,
> not
>
> Questions :
>
> - Did there is a need for a weblog package installed at apache.org
>where commiters could put notes about THEIR ASF related works ?
+1.
>
> - Should we select a Java based solution (the request came from
>jakarta-general initially), or anything else ?
As long as it wo
> Questions :
>
> - Did there is a need for a weblog package installed at apache.org
>where commiters could put notes about THEIR ASF related works ?
No. If a project wants a blog there are plenty of places where they can host
one without the ASF needing to do it. The ASF is not an organisatio
On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, Henri Gomez wrote:
> - Did there is a need for a weblog package installed at apache.org
>where commiters could put notes about THEIR ASF related works ?
+1
I don't think it is a "need" - but it would be a good idea.
I know there are free or cheap hosting sites - but the
David Reid wrote:
[...]
As to whether project should have blogs - isn't the whole point of blogs
that they represent an individuals personal views? I fail to see why a
project would wish such a thing...
I agree that providing a forum where news can be made available for projects
in an easier to fin
Thom May wrote:
>
>> - Should we select a Java based solution (the request came from
>> jakarta-general initially), or anything else ?
>>
> I think this question and the following one are premature. We need to agree
> on the necessity of *having* committer or project blogging before discussing
Henri Gomez wrote:
Let's (re)start the poll here since it's the commiters list
was innapropriate ;(
Sure thing ;)
Subject: weblog package on apache.org
The goal of this poll is to get commiters feedback on
having a weblog package on apache.org.
The basic idea is to provide ASF commiters a tool whic
* Rodent of Unusual Size ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote :
> Thom May wrote:
> >
> >> - Should we select a Java based solution (the request came from
> >> jakarta-general initially), or anything else ?
> >>
> > I think this question and the following one are premature. We need to agree
> > on the ne
Ben Hyde said:
> Didn't we settle this most contentious issue some time ago with a few
> megabytes of text and a long complex vote coupled with a solid turn
> out? If so it's painful and cruel to reopen the issue. - ben
I've already apologized twice for rehashing an old issue, but that is
obvio
> David Reid wrote:
> [...]
> > As to whether project should have blogs - isn't the whole point of blogs
> > that they represent an individuals personal views? I fail to see why a
> > project would wish such a thing...
> >
> > I agree that providing a forum where news can be made available for
proj
> From: Joshua Slive [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 4:27 PM
> Ben Hyde said:
> > Didn't we settle this most contentious issue some time ago with a few
> > megabytes of text and a long complex vote coupled with a solid turn
> > out? If so it's painful and cruel to re
> And no, allowing "invited guests" does not eliminate either problem.
>
> I'm not sure this is the type of "community" that I want to participate
> in.
Live with it, unsubscribe or put up a vote to have it your way. Just stop
complaining about it.
Mvgr,
Martin
-
Joshua Slive wrote:
Ben Hyde said:
Didn't we settle this most contentious issue some time ago with a few
megabytes of text and a long complex vote coupled with a solid turn
out? If so it's painful and cruel to reopen the issue. - ben
I've already apologized twice for rehashing an old issue, but
> > 1. The list is, at minimum, terribly misnamed.
>
> Yes. It has been a misnomer from the start.
And that was debated at great (and extremely painful) length on the reorg@
list before the new list was setup.
Remember the community@ list was supposed to be a cure for many of the ills
that peopl
> > And no, allowing "invited guests" does not eliminate either problem.
> >
> > I'm not sure this is the type of "community" that I want to participate
> > in.
>
> Live with it, unsubscribe or put up a vote to have it your way. Just stop
> complaining about it.
Do people actually believe that hav
David Reid wrote:
[...]
I wish people would stop doing this...
Nicola - while I appreciate your wish to push your project (don't we all)
what you're talking about and what I was talking about are totally
different!
The project in itself has nothing to do with it. I'm just saying that
there are pos
On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, Martin van den Bemt wrote:
> > And no, allowing "invited guests" does not eliminate either problem.
> >
> > I'm not sure this is the type of "community" that I want to participate
> > in.
>
> Live with it, unsubscribe or put up a vote to have it your way. Just stop
> complain
Martin van den Bemt wrote:
And no, allowing "invited guests" does not eliminate either problem.
I'm not sure this is the type of "community" that I want to participate
in.
Live with it, unsubscribe or put up a vote to have it your way. Just stop
complaining about it.
Leave them alone, we need some
> > > in.
> >
> > Live with it, unsubscribe or put up a vote to have it your way.
> Just stop
> > complaining about it.
>
> Do people actually believe that having a poll will make these issues go
> away???
Nope.. That's why I gave 3 choices..
Mvgr,
Martin
> > Live with it, unsubscribe or put up a vote to have it your way.
> Just stop
> > complaining about it.
>
> No.
>
> Complaining about what we think is wrong -- using reasoned arguments -- is
> the CORRECT way to make changes.
>
There is only one way to change stuff at apache : put it up for a vo
> - Did there is a need for a weblog package installed at apache.org
> where commiters could put notes about THEIR ASF related works ?
How would this differ from the Wiki? I think that the discussion should be
about features, not about labels.
> - Should we select a Java based solution (the re
"David Reid" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > 1. The list is, at minimum, terribly misnamed.
> >
> > Yes. It has been a misnomer from the start.
>
> And that was debated at great (and extremely painful) length on the reorg@
> list before the new list was setup.
In fact, the biggest proponent f
On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, Martin van den Bemt wrote:
> There is only one way to change stuff at apache : put it up for a vote.
Actually, my observation is that votes are used extremely rarely. Apache
decisions are almost-always consensus-based. Rare issues do come along
that require votes, but only
um, the decision was to have open archives but subscriber-only
posting, iirc. that makes the list open for viewing as you seem
to be saying it is not, joshua, while also satisfying the people
who don't want it to be *wide* open and allowing drive-by
comments and spam. it is a directed list for as
Joshua Slive wrote:
>
> I will reiterate my arguments, then I'll go away for to save you all the
> pain of my opinions:
better, hold on to your opinions and read the archives as soon
as they're available. *then* give us the pain. :-)
> 1. The list is, at minimum, terribly misnamed. The Apache
Sander Striker wrote:
>> 1. The list is, at minimum, terribly misnamed.
>
> Yes. It has been a misnomer from the start.
and apparently some members of the minority seem unable to just let
go and accept and work with the will of the majority, preferring
to snipe any time the opportunity arises.
On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote:
> Sander Striker wrote:
> >> 1. The list is, at minimum, terribly misnamed.
> >
> > Yes. It has been a misnomer from the start.
>
> and apparently some members of the minority seem unable to just let
> go and accept and work with the will of the
> sorry, but not only has this been a really bad week for me, but
> i'm bloody well sick and tired of people using this list to
> look back on what they (as a minority) thought was done wrong,
You can make any comment you like this week Ken :) Thanx for warning us..
http://golux.com/coar/blog/ind
I wonder if we could do something fun.
I think it would be fun to have a map that shows where the various
people in the community are located on the planet.
My fuzzy idea is that members of the community would put ICBM tags[1]
on some web page of their. That can drive the map building. Use the
On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, Ben Hyde wrote:
> If we keep it simple to start we can obviously do assorted richer
> things later, but if all we try to do up front is get a map of the
> committers that would be sufficiently neat.
>
> wdyt?
It'd be fun. Would help in things like Brian's recent email seeki
Cool +1..
I've already setup geoUrl so the headers are in place. (except for the
ASF-KIND though)
Mvgr,
Martin
> -Original Message-
> From: Ben Hyde [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 19:58
> To: community@apache.org
> Subject: Where are we?
>
>
> I wonder if we
Actually we could skip the ASF-KIND boondoggle at first too. At that
point the only thing we need is to collect URL's that have the icbm
info in them. This will make so much easier for the authorities when
the time comes! - ben
On Wednesday, January 29, 2003, at 02:03 PM, Martin van den Bemt
"David Reid" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > - Did there is a need for a weblog package installed at apache.org
> >where commiters could put notes about THEIR ASF related works ?
-1
> A blog (in the context it's being pushed now) is (IMHO) really just
> another outlet for news on a project t
Do we have to be truthful and honest? :) Maybe we could have one that shows
where we'd *like* to be...
david
- Original Message -
From: "Ben Hyde" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 7:11 PM
Subject: Re: Where are we?
> Actually we could skip the ASF-KIND boondogg
Why not just have a .icbm file on icarus in people's home directories?
On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, Ben Hyde wrote:
> Actually we could skip the ASF-KIND boondoggle at first too. At that
> point the only thing we need is to collect URL's that have the icbm
> info in them. This will make so much easier
--On Wednesday, January 29, 2003 19:15:16 + David Reid
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Do we have to be truthful and honest? :) Maybe we could have one that
shows where we'd *like* to be...
In your case, we could show where your plane is. 40,000ft above the
Atlantic Ocean in the middle of nowher
* Justin Erenkrantz ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote :
> --On Wednesday, January 29, 2003 19:15:16 + David Reid
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >Do we have to be truthful and honest? :) Maybe we could have one that
> >shows where we'd *like* to be...
>
> In your case, we could show where your plan
[1] http://geourl.com/
ekk! I meant:http://geourl.org/
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Just heard a plain is perfect for spec writing :) (Dirk-Willem?)
The result is called PLOP (for belgians and dutch people with kids : Nee
geen Kabouter Plop!)
See http://www-nrc.nokia.com/mail-archive/ietf-spatial/msg00358.html for
details :)
Mvgr,
Martin
> -Original Message-
> From: Just
> * Justin Erenkrantz ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote :
> >
> > >Do we have to be truthful and honest? :) Maybe we could have one that
> > >shows where we'd *like* to be...
> >
> > In your case, we could show where your plane is. 40,000ft above the
> > Atlantic Ocean in the middle of nowhere. =) -- ju
> Just heard a plain is perfect for spec writing :) (Dirk-Willem?)
^
It's just plain plane and not just plain plain.
Sigh.. (hope I got it right this time)
Mvgr,
Martin
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Never right specs in a fright container.
On Wednesday, January 29, 2003, at 02:36 PM, Martin van den Bemt wrote:
Just heard a plain is perfect for spec writing :) (Dirk-Willem?)
The result is called PLOP (for belgians and dutch people with kids :
Nee
geen Kabouter Plop!)
See http://www-nrc.nokia.c
> I think it would be fun to have a map that shows where the various
> people in the community are located on the planet.
Stefano was already working on something for that, if I recall correctly.
You might want to check.
> > [1] http://geourl.com/
> ekk! I meant:http://geourl.org/
Eek is ri
were you hoping for a better url than http://geourl.com?
That gives me a nice site that pops up lots of windows etc and tries to
set my homepage.
Hen
On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, Ben Hyde wrote:
> Actually we could skip the ASF-KIND boondoggle at first too. At that
> point the only thing we need is t
> From: Rodent of Unusual Size [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 7:30 PM
[...]
> nothing personal, sander. my response would be the same for
> anyone else making that remark.
No problem. I probably should've kept my mouth shut or been
more verbose in my response. An
Ben Hyde wrote:
I wonder if we could do something fun.
I think it would be fun to have a map that shows where the various
people in the community are located on the planet.
enthusiast +1
My fuzzy idea is that members of the community would put ICBM tags[1] on
some web page of their. That can dri
What do URLs have to do with Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles? Does not
compute.
At 14:11 29.01.2003 -0500, you wrote:
Actually we could skip the ASF-KIND boondoggle at first too. At that
point the only thing we need is to collect URL's that have the icbm info
in them. This will make so mu
* Ben Hyde ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote :
> I wonder if we could do something fun.
>
> I think it would be fun to have a map that shows where the various
> people in the community are located on the planet.
>
me like :-)
+1
-Thom
---
Ben Hyde wrote:
> I wonder if we could do something fun.
>
> I think it would be fun to have a map that shows where the various
> people in the community are located on the planet.
>
> My fuzzy idea is that members of the community would put ICBM tags[1]
> on some web page of their. That can d
Henri Yandell wrote:
That gives me a nice site that pops up lots of windows etc and tries to
set my homepage.
I'm very sorry about that[1], never trust anything I write!
http://geourl.org/
David Reid wrote:
Do we have to be truthful and honest? :) Maybe we could have one that
shows
where we'd
Ben Hyde wrote:
% cvs -d cvs.apache.org:/home/cvs co committers
% echo 'http://enthusiasm.cozy.org/' >> committers/urls.txt
% cvs ci -m 'Add Ben' committers/urls.txt
done, I added my account ID so that maybe Sam & Jim can pick up that
file and use it for their committer/member overview, too
That'
Done for me too..
Mvgr,
Martin
> -Original Message-
> From: Steven Noels [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 21:49
> To: community@apache.org
> Subject: Re: Where are we?
>
>
> Ben Hyde wrote:
>
> > % cvs -d cvs.apache.org:/home/cvs co committers
> > % echo 'h
> My fuzzy idea is that members of the community would put ICBM tags[1]
> on some web page of their. That can drive the map building. Use the
> [1] http://geourl.com/
That lands me on a domain squatter. It's a cool idea, but I'm a little
apprehensive about being targeted by ICBMs...
S.
--
[E
Steven Noels wrote:
That's about as low on the food chain as we can go 'knowledge
representation' wise. Should we climb higher, and if so ... why?
nope, KISS
Lies!
Ok so the file is in /etc/passwd style with three columns separated by
colons. The first field is your cvs.apache.org login id, the
It is proposed that the community list be archived through Eyebrowse on
nagoya, and it is also proposed that the following patch be applied to the
Foundation's mailing list page on www.apache.org. A patch is included to
this effect.
PATCH BEGINS HERE:
Index: mailinglists.xml
Ceki Gülcü <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> What do URLs have to do with Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles?
> Does not compute.
Really... who wants to parse up some file, and have a spider visit a
bunch of sites just to get the same information that could have been
put in a file on cvs.apache.org
I did not want to mix up my own personal views with the proposal, here they
are.
1. Since community is to be archived on Eyebrowse, it only makes sense to
advertise the existence of this list on the website.
2. I attempted to choose language that would be as non-controversial as
possible. There
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (David N. Welton) writes:
> As far as the mapping software, the Debian guys have done something
> like this in the past... I'll see if I can get some information.
http://people.debian.org/~edward/globe/
(He says he'll be putting source code up shortly).
Also, xplanet can be u
> From: David N. Welton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 10:49 PM
> Ceki G|lc| <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > What do URLs have to do with Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles?
> > Does not compute.
>
> Really... who wants to parse up some file, and have a spider v
According to Steven Noels:
> Would that be as simple as opening up some PayPall account?
We are actually in the process of doing this.
ciao...
--
Lars Eilebrecht - Reality does not exist... yet.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
--
According to David N. Welton:
> "David Reid" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > > - Did there is a need for a weblog package installed at apache.org
> > >where commiters could put notes about THEIR ASF related works ?
>
> -1
>
> > A blog (in the context it's being pushed now) is (IMHO) reall
> According to Steven Noels:
>
> > Would that be as simple as opening up some PayPall account?
>
> We are actually in the process of doing this.
I don't know if anyone is interested in selling swag, but I found this:
http://www.cafeshops.com/cp/store.aspx?s=freebsdgear It is fairly easy to
setu
I believe Ken has a shop for that stuff already (thought I found the shop
via his site at least)
Mvgr,
Martin
> -Original Message-
> From: O'brien, Tim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 23:39
> To: community@apache.org
> Subject: RE: ASF Colocation proposal
>
>
According to O'brien, Tim:
> I don't know if anyone is interested in selling swag, but I found this:
> http://www.cafeshops.com/cp/store.aspx?s=freebsdgear It is fairly easy
> to setup, and I believe one can customize the interface.
Well, the ASF is already an affiliate of Jinx Hackwear.
http:
Martin van den Bemt wrote:
I believe Ken has a shop for that stuff already (thought I found the shop
via his site at least)
http://apache-server.com/store.html
http://www.copyleft.net/search.phtml?search=1&lookup[brand_id]=52
cheers,
erik
Mvgr,
Martin
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From: O'brien, Tim
Hmm. There was another site selling them, which had rather poor user
feedback:
http://www.copyleft.net/item.phtml?page=product_966_front.phtml
Ken's is: http://apache-server.com/store.html
Others:
http://apache.covalent.net/store/t.php
http://geekt.org/geekt/comment.cgi?newsid=1197
Hen
On W
So when will there be a Jakarta t-shirt available? :)
Hen
On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, Erik Abele wrote:
> Martin van den Bemt wrote:
> > I believe Ken has a shop for that stuff already (thought I found the shop
> > via his site at least)
>
> http://apache-server.com/store.html
> http://www.copyleft.ne
Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> So when will there be a Jakarta t-shirt available? :)
We'd certainly like to see a Rivet T-shirt with this guy, (created by
lokitech.com) :-)
http://tcl.apache.org/rivet/logos/idea9.jpg
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David N. Welton
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According to Henri Yandell:
> Hmm. There was another site selling them, which had rather poor user
> feedback:
>
> http://www.copyleft.net/item.phtml?page=product_966_front.phtml
I don't know about Copyleft's current status. Most people were
waiting for month till they got their stuff or never g
David N. Welton wrote:
> Ceki Gülcü writes:
>
> > What do URLs have to do with Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles?
> > Does not compute.
>
> Really... who wants to parse up some file, and have a spider visit a
> bunch of sites just to get the same information that could have been
> put in a file
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