Re: PlanetApache issues

2005-08-21 Thread Erik Abele
On 20.08.2005, at 20:05, Juan Jose Pablos wrote: Erik Abele wrote: I'm not sure why PlanetApache is doing this but it insists on displaying one of Ask's blogentries ('What's best for slides? Black text on white background or white on black?') as the first or

PlanetApache issues

2005-08-16 Thread Erik Abele
I'm not sure why PlanetApache is doing this but it insists on displaying one of Ask's blogentries ('What's best for slides? Black text on white background or white on black?') as the first or second item on the list for weeks now... This is slightly annoying so if somebody has a solution, I

Re: [Fwd: [OT] Top 10 things to do in Stuttgart]

2005-07-15 Thread Erik Abele
On 15.07.2005, at 17:30, Lars Eilebrecht wrote: According to Upayavira: Just in case anyone has time on their hands at Stuttgart, this might be interesting for you. Can someone post this to the wiki.apache.org/apachecon/ please? :-) I've added it to http://wiki.apache.org/apachecon/DayTr

Re: Wikis for Geeks: anyone have a wiki that supports CVS/SVN for users?

2005-04-26 Thread Erik Abele
On 26.04.2005, at 19:48, Shane Curcuru wrote: Here's a brilliant idea! I'd love to find a wiki that also supports updates via some sort of geek-oriented interface, like CVS or SVN. That way, we could please both the millions of folks who like using the web - and can usually figure out how to u

Re: Is ASL2.0 not "GPL-compatible" ??

2004-12-21 Thread Erik Abele
On 21.12.2004, at 21:15, robert burrell donkin wrote: by this time next year, software patent violations are most likely to be enforceable by criminal sanction. any company wanted to maliciously damage an open source project would only have to target individual european release managers using th

Fwd: Apache / mail-archive.com

2004-12-21 Thread Erik Abele
This forum is probably more applicable for these kinds of offers: Begin forwarded message: From: Jeff Breidenbach Date: 16. Dezember 2004 09:16:49 MEZ Subject: Apache / mail-archive.com ... Also I noticed Apache lists are using our service pretty heavily. That's great - please shout if you have cu

Re: Volunteers wanted: Linuxworld Expo booth

2004-07-08 Thread Erik Abele
On 08.07.2004, at 05:48, Sander Temme wrote: On Jul 7, 2004, at 6:01 PM, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote: suddenly i'll be at linuxworld, but i don't know if i can help out or not. Thanks for your offer, but we declined IDG's offer of the booth space... I didn't get enough volunteers at the time to g

Re: Do we have a "jobs list"?

2004-07-06 Thread Erik Abele
On 06.07.2004, at 21:03, Brian Behlendorf wrote: We don't appear to, but I would be +1 on setting something like this up. Freebsd.org has one, not sure who else might. mod_perl has one: http://perl.apache.org/jobs/jobs.html Though I suppose an ASF-wide list would be a GoodThing (TM)... Cheers, Eri

Re: License 2.0 Script

2004-03-11 Thread Erik Abele
On 11.03.2004, at 18:33, Brian McCallister wrote: I saw a link floating around a while back, but cannot find it now, to a script to munge java sources from 1.1 to 2.0 license. Anyone have that? see cvs://committers/relicense :) Cheers, Erik Thanks, Brian smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptograp

Re: Renaming package names

2004-03-11 Thread Erik Abele
On 11.03.2004, at 15:36, Ceki Gülcü wrote: It appears that the product in question includes a copy of the Apache license in their documentation. Does this give them the right to rename packages an appropriate the software? My understanding is that the Apache license allows this. Yes, together with

Re: Farewell to Martin Pöschl

2004-02-12 Thread Erik Abele
On 11.02.2004, at 04:10, Daniel L. Rall wrote: With great sadness, I must report the staggering loss of our good friend and colleague, Martin Pöschl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>. Details are sketchy, but it's been confirmed that Martin passed away on January 29th, 2004. Martin lived in Vienna, Austria. I'

Re: Newsletter - to be or not to be?

2003-12-02 Thread Erik Abele
On 02.12.2003, at 18:31, Sander Striker wrote: On Tue, 2003-12-02 at 18:26, Martin Cooper wrote: I would recommend against using committers@, for two reasons. First, AIUI and based on previous reactions to messages to that list, this is not the kind of thing that list is intended for. Correct. S

FYI: Coordinating key-signings worldwide

2003-11-11 Thread Erik Abele
Just FYI but after all these discussions about signing keys I stumbled over the following website: http://www.biglumber.com/ It's primarily designed to help people sign each other's PGP/GnuPG keys but it's also really useful when it comes to arranging key-signing events. Just give it a look, ther

Re: bogus subs to mailing lists (more?)

2003-11-06 Thread Erik Abele
On 06.11.2003, at 00:46, Santiago Gala wrote: Actually, I am exploring the concept, I expected some expert to come out and say "Actually, project XYZ in sourceforge does a variant of this, only much better" :-) fwiw: there is a nice concept called Tripoli, see http://www.pfir.org/tripoli-overvie

Re: ApacheCon logo: a little less busy

2003-10-30 Thread Erik Abele
On 30/10/2003, at 09:44, Andreas Hartmann wrote: And here is yet another version. http://www.cocooncenter.org/apache/coins-04.png -- Andreas Great, great, great! I'd really like to see Fitz' blackjack theme on the breast (small) and one of the bandit+coins designs on the back (biiig). Though, I don

Re: RfP: Apache T-Shirt Logo Contest

2003-10-28 Thread Erik Abele
On 29/10/2003, at 12:35, Andreas Hartmann wrote: Hi Apache community, here are two drafts of a logo: http://www.cocooncenter.org/apache/apache-foundation.png http://www.cocooncenter.org/apache/apachecon.png Hmmm, there is *a* feather but not *the* feather! *bummer* ;-0 Cheers, Erik

Re: Press PR (was Re: The board is not responsible!)

2003-10-23 Thread Erik Abele
I don't want to be an "enthusiasm blocker" but I have to agree with what Justin already said. Tetsuya, do you think that the suggested split-ups are reducing the amount of bureaucracy we already have in ASF-land? If so, can you please be so kind and elaborate further on this? I'd be fine with

Re: Information channels, Re: Inappropriate use of announce@

2003-10-20 Thread Erik Abele
On 20/10/2003, at 04:44, Rob Oxspring wrote: we know that everybody has his/her own preferences Again I would have thought that most of us are grown up enough to realise that. Therefore I wrote '... we [the ASF community] know ...' :) so why don't we just go with a pull-model instead of pushing th

Re: Information channels, Re: Inappropriate use of announce@

2003-10-20 Thread Erik Abele
On 20/10/2003, at 04:43, Henning Schmiedehausen wrote: Well, the threads on this and other similar topics showed that the majority of our community has a completely different point of view when it comes to information reception. Compared to whom? To you, me or Tetsuyo? EVERYBODY HAS HIS/HER OWN PR

Information channels, Re: Inappropriate use of announce@

2003-10-20 Thread Erik Abele
As the discussion now shows *nobody* is in favour of Tetsuyas resignation and *everybody* appreciate[sd] his efforts but it also seems that there exist some basic misunderstandings, at least I've lost the point somewhere last night... On 20/10/2003, at 10:44, Henning Schmiedehausen wrote: And th

Re: Inappropriate use of announce@

2003-10-19 Thread Erik Abele
On 20/10/2003, at 01:40, Noel J. Bergman wrote: The original intention of the newsletter was "Newsletter will be one of the *glue* of the communities in the ASF umbrella ... It seems that the newsletter itself is going to the contrary. The newsletter is doing that job. All that was asked is that

FYI: Verisign SiteFinder - Episode 2

2003-10-16 Thread Erik Abele
Looks like Verisign plans to revive its SiteFinder 'service': http://news.com.com/2100-1038_3-5092133.html Bah. Cheers, Erik Btw, the complete presentation given by Verisign at the ICANN SECSAC meeting on 15th Oct. is available here: http://www.icann.org/presentations/turner-secsac-dc-15oct03.ppt -

Re: Apache Web Of Trust, was Re: [FYI] Apache Agora 1.2

2003-10-13 Thread Erik Abele
On 13/10/2003, at 01:47, Shane Curcuru wrote: ... Also I know Ben Laurie has other nifty key management/who knows who tools just to throw in a URL for KeyMan: http://keyman.aldigital.co.uk/ there's even a doc with 'Instructions for ASF Keysigning': http://keyman.aldigital.co.uk/asf.html Wiki has

Apache Web Of Trust, was Re: [FYI] Apache Agora 1.2

2003-10-12 Thread Erik Abele
With a bit help of Stefano I finally got around and finished a first attempt to visualize the Apache Web of Trust with the help of Agora. Have a look at http://apache.org/~erikabele/wot/wot.html and let me know what you think. The underlying datasets are available back to 1999 and are bas

Re: EU Parliament Approves Software Patents

2003-09-24 Thread Erik Abele
On 24/09/2003, at 05:03, Steven Noels wrote: Erik Abele wrote: arghhh, without comments: 'EU Parliament Approves Software Patents' http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/03/09/24/ 1253227.shtml?tid=155&tid=185&tid=99 Don't panic: No panic involved ;) just passing on a pointer, so that

EU Parliament Approves Software Patents

2003-09-24 Thread Erik Abele
arghhh, without comments: 'EU Parliament Approves Software Patents' http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/03/09/24/ 1253227.shtml?tid=155&tid=185&tid=99 Cheers, Erik - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-ma

Fwd: [ANN] Jakarta Turbine 2.3 released (fwd)

2003-09-08 Thread Erik Abele
forwared without comment from board@, as a follow-up on the recent discussion about announce@ Cheers, Erik Begin forwarded message: Von: Christopher A Bongaarts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Datum: Do, 4. Sep 2003 19:25:52 Europe/Berlin An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: [ANN] Jakarta Turbine 2.3 released (fw

Re: [PROPSAL] Support EU Patent Vote Protest

2003-08-26 Thread Erik Abele
On 27/08/2003, at 12:30, David Reid wrote: This may well be too late for any form of decision, but I propose that for the duration of the 27th August 2003 we change the index page of the main ASF web site to point at a page that states our opposition to the proposal being voted on and our suppor

Re: EU Software Patents

2003-08-26 Thread Erik Abele
On 26/08/2003, at 10:22, Noel J. Bergman wrote: I predict that it will be really ugly. Fortunately, there are Open Source friendly companies like IBM, so with their patronage, Open Source can succeed. Should they turn face, ugly will be an understatement. Agreed, but did you know: 'As the world’

Re: EU Software Patents

2003-08-26 Thread Erik Abele
On 26/08/2003, at 07:44, Danny Angus wrote: If anyone's counting a show of hands here I'm a European and +1 to opposing software patents in Europe and +1 to the ASF supporting the demo. d. +1 and +1! just FYI: the ISOC members are currently discussing the same issues but it's probably also too

annou...@apache.org, was Re: Newsletter.

2003-08-16 Thread Erik Abele
On 16/08/2003, at 11:58, Noel J. Bergman wrote: Joshua Slive wrote: When I originally proposed the announce@apache.org list, the purpose was this: Each project would send their announcements to their own list (eg. announce@httpd.apache.org) AND send a copy to [EMAIL PROTECTED] That way people c

Re: Apache Newsletter [Re: Jakarta Newsletter Issue 9 -- May-June 2003]

2003-07-11 Thread Erik Abele
On 11/07/2003, at 05:33, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: 1) the ASF publishes a newsletter (following the very nice style used in the recent Jakarta one) that covers all the ASF endevours. Including infrastructure, licensing, security, incubation and all the non-so-project stuff. 2) the newsletter is se

Re: archives?

2003-07-03 Thread Erik Abele
On 03/07/2003, at 06:08, Noel J. Bergman wrote: Is this list archived? There are archives at MARC and gmane.org And the ASF archives site: http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse/ uuups, yes. After all the 'eyebrowse down' mails, coming up on infrastructure every now and then, I didn't even think about

Re: archives?

2003-07-03 Thread Erik Abele
On 03/07/2003, at 05:14, Sanjiva Weerawarana wrote: Is this list archived? There was a post a few weeks ago with committer stats that I wanted to save but can't locate it any more. There are archives at MARC and gmane.org: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=apache-community&r=1&w=2 http://news.gmane.o

Meeting @ LinuxTag, KA, Germany

2003-06-22 Thread Erik Abele
[I'm crossposting this to community@ and party@ to catch some more eyes; please reply on [EMAIL PROTECTED] Folks, some time ago we already had a discussion about a possible ASF meeting here in Germany. We also started to collect the locations of the interested people (see CVS:committers/docs/de-m

just a dummy message...

2003-04-06 Thread Erik Abele
...so that gmane.org finally picks up the list... Cheers, Erik - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

FYI: [Fwd: community added to Gmane]

2003-04-06 Thread Erik Abele
Just FYI: I received the following note at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and confirmed the subscription request because I think it's a GoodThing(tm) and it also complies with the list rules (public archives, postings closed to committers). If someone is interested in getting the current archives imported i

Re: apache.org vs. mozilla.org

2003-04-05 Thread Erik Abele
Danny Angus wrote: Steffano, You asked.. Now, I'm asking: what if the ASF provides its own news server Of course, it should be transparent and allow to redirect back a newsgroup post to the mail list I seem to remember Pier trying this with his own equipment. > I believe that it was such a sucess

Re: Updating source files to have full ASF license

2003-03-03 Thread Erik Abele
Rich Bowen wrote: On Mon, 3 Mar 2003, Erik Abele wrote: >> >>so we get 808,9kb for the source files plus the license >>(22998/1024=22,5kb) itself: ~ 831,4kb hehe, really cute compared to 6,7M :-> That's not nearly as fun! Anyway, 831kb are also way to much for just t

Re: Updating source files to have full ASF license

2003-03-03 Thread Erik Abele
Rich Bowen wrote: On Sun, 2 Mar 2003, Rich Bowen wrote: I have often thought it would be very very nice if the source files could reference the license, and tell you where to get it, rather than including the full text. This hugely increases the size of everything, and provides no real benefit. If

Re: Updating source files to have full ASF license

2003-03-02 Thread Erik Abele
As far as I understand it, the license itself isn't compatible to be referenced from another file. It's quite 'direct' and always relates to the document it is in. IANAL but I think we would need another phrase in the license wich states something like the following: "This license applies to an

Re: [proposal] daedalus jar repository

2003-03-02 Thread Erik Abele
Dion, can you please use the newly created [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list (thanks, Sam) for this sort of topics? Thanks and cheers, Erik Sam Ruby wrote: I'm in a "just do it" kind of mood. I just created a [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list. Noel is the initial moderator. If/when there is an infrastr

Re: [off-topic-just for fun] - Maps and zoom-in

2003-02-26 Thread Erik Abele
David Crossley wrote: Dirk-Willem van Gulik wrote: Now I've noticed quite a few folks falling off the shore, and into a nearby rivers and canals. Which unless you are living on a boad - is propably not quite correct. So I'd love to know if that is projection issue; or a true issue with the location

Re: [off-topic-just for fun] - Maps and zoom-in

2003-02-25 Thread Erik Abele
Really, really great! just about 15 meters off target...(middle/south germany). muchas gracias, the map rocks! cheers, Erik Dirk-Willem van Gulik wrote: The map on: http://cvs.apache.org/~dirkx/sgala.html has had a wee enhancement; if you zoom in far enough; the boring digital terrain map o

Re: committers / project list

2003-02-20 Thread Erik Abele
Ask Bjoern Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I updated the committers / projects list: > > http://cvs.apache.org/~ask/ > > http://cvs.apache.org/~ask/people.html > http://cvs.apache.org/~ask/committers.html > > > - ask > great, but wouldn't it make more sense to update this info regular

Re: db.apache.org url is missing

2003-02-18 Thread Erik Abele
robert burrell donkin wrote: (i'm not really sure where comments about the main foundation site should be posted or how to submit patches. hopefully someone will correct me if this isn't the right place.) Since site-dev@ was removed, infrastructure@ is the place to go. Attached also the missing p

Re: Where to place Agora?

2003-02-03 Thread Erik Abele
Rodent of Unusual Size wrote: > > personally, i think that if more than about three hands go up on > this list that would be a sufficient nuclear community for agora > to go directly into the commons. fewer than three people plus > stefano, and i think it should go the the incubator. > > mho. ahh,

Re: Where to place Agora?

2003-02-03 Thread Erik Abele
robert burrell donkin wrote: On Monday, February 3, 2003, at 05:09 PM, Sam Ruby wrote: Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: so, I wonder, should I go down the path of 'incubation'?, should I move it under the committers/ CVS? or in the community CVS? move it on sourceforge? should we clutter this mail list o

Re: Verifying links

2003-02-02 Thread Erik Abele
don't know every project of the Jakarta world :-( Something like one of those could be batched from time to time, and the report mailed to the appropriate list. As said above, would be handy to have such a tool; just go for it ;-) cheers, Erik --- Noel -----Original Message- From: Erik

Re: Verifying links

2003-02-02 Thread Erik Abele
Thanks for the reminder to Eric Raymond's changes :) Just grep'ed httpd-*, site, site-tools, apr-*, incubator-*, asf-site, commons-* and found only 3 incorrect links. In any event, I'm wondering about the systematic issue. Do you think about a general link-checker installed on daedalus? Hmmm, is

Re: ASF Colocation proposal

2003-01-29 Thread Erik Abele
Martin van den Bemt wrote: I believe Ken has a shop for that stuff already (thought I found the shop via his site at least) http://apache-server.com/store.html http://www.copyleft.net/search.phtml?search=1&lookup[brand_id]=52 cheers, erik Mvgr, Martin -Original Message- From: O'brien, Tim

Re: Fw: You can at least forward my comments to these secret discussions about wiki

2003-01-29 Thread Erik Abele
O'brien, Tim wrote: I have no idea of what the discussion is at community@, I'm not allowed to subscribe to that list. I just manually moderated Tim's mails through to communtiy@ and if nobody objects I will subscribe him too. I think we had enough positive feedback for this... cheers, Erik Again

Re: Open community (was ... secret discussions ...)

2003-01-28 Thread Erik Abele
Hi Joshua, in case you are interested in the vote, see below... As far as I can recall the list was pretty busy at this time and some people worried about the signal-to-noise ratio while thinking about 650 Apache fellows plus users or as you put it "having a mechanism to quite people who make noi

Re: Weblogs and Obstructionism WAS: Re: weblogs on apache.org

2003-01-26 Thread Erik Abele
Rich Bowen wrote: On Thu, 23 Jan 2003, Noel J. Bergman wrote: For those of us that are not on infrastructure@, what's the summary thus far? Is it just the obvious which can be gleaned from the above, ie Andy proposed blog software installed on an apache.org machine and someone -1'ed it, or was it m

Re: [proposal] creation of communitity.apache.org - issues redux

2002-12-04 Thread Erik Abele
+1, very, very well said... After having read all the different concerns and opinions in the previous posts, I completely agree to every single point of your mail and I hope this will bring us back on the right trackthank you, Mr. Curcuru ;-) cheers, erik > Von: Shane Curcuru <[EMAIL PROTEC

Re: [proposal] creation of communitity.apache.org

2002-11-27 Thread Erik Abele
I'm also +1 on community.apache.org and the redirects, but I'm quite unsure if we really should place such preconditions on all the committers. We certainly have to establish some basic 'rules' or may be only strong suggestions as Andy stated. however, IMO the requirements should be preferably

Re: Apache People in Germany? (was: RE: @apache web pages)

2002-11-13 Thread Erik Abele
Yes, definetely +1. I will take this over to the party@ list. btw, I will try to capture all the postings about this topic to get a file with all interested europe/german (?) people together. more to come on party@ ... Erik David Reid wrote: You know guys - party@ is probably a better place to d

Re: Apache People in Germany? (was: RE: @apache web pages)

2002-11-13 Thread Erik Abele
Hi Henning, yeah, Munich or any other big city in the southern german area would be great. btw, what about a 'german division meeting'. I'm from Aalen (100km east of Stuttgart, 200km north of Munich) and would like to meet some other Apache fellows from germany...perhaps we can arrange something.

Re: [VOTE] Openness

2002-10-30 Thread Erik Abele
> VOTE 1: would you like to make it possible for non-committers to read > this mail list thru a web archive? > > [ ] +1 yes, let's make it readable > [ ] 0 don't know/don't care > [X] -1 no, let's keep it private > > >- o - > > > VOTE 2: would you like to make

Re: Man, it's quiet here

2002-10-26 Thread Erik Abele
Rodent of Unusual Size wrote: * On 2002-10-25 at 22:53, Erik Abele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> excited the electrons to say: Perhaps we should propose another posting on the different developer-/committer-lists? It seems that Greg's and Stefano's postings did not really reach all th

Re: [VOTE] Open this list

2002-10-26 Thread Erik Abele
> [ ] View 1: Open the list completely, anyone can subscribe, post and read > the archive > [ X ] View 2: Keep the list open only to committers, members and invitees > (highly contributive developers and users) so far as posting goes, > however allow anyone to read or view th

Re: Man, it's quiet here

2002-10-25 Thread Erik Abele
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 26 Oct 2002, Erik Abele wrote: From a moderators POV I can say, that mostly the people which are subscribed to reorg@ have also joined [EMAIL PROTECTED] Perhaps we should propose another posting on the different developer-/committer-lists? It seems that Greg&#

Re: Man, it's quiet here

2002-10-25 Thread Erik Abele
From a moderators POV I can say, that mostly the people which are subscribed to reorg@ have also joined [EMAIL PROTECTED] Perhaps we should propose another posting on the different developer-/committer-lists? It seems that Greg's and Stefano's postings did not really reach all the committers ou