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From: "Joshua Slive" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Martin Kraemer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "Apache Infrastructure" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 20
Please stop copying board on every message.
On Wed, 25 Aug 2004, James Mitchell wrote:
How do you propose we do that? How do you define "large segment of our
users"?
My email has nothing to do with your complaint. I am talking purely about
the technical issue of people being unable to download t
> I am talking purely about the technical issue of people being
> unable to download the software from mirrors.playboy.com. I
> am not talking about the logo/link to playboyenterprises.com.
Would a mirrors.playboyenterprises.com domain be less technically
problematic? Is that also widely blocked
Noel J. Bergman wrote:
I am talking purely about the technical issue of people being
unable to download the software from mirrors.playboy.com. I
am not talking about the logo/link to playboyenterprises.com.
Would a mirrors.playboyenterprises.com domain be less technically
problematic? Is that al
--On Thursday, August 26, 2004 3:37 PM +1000 Ian Holsman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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mirror.au.apache.org or something which just does a round robin on available
mirrors in the 'au' region.. that the downloader only sees
a 'apache' domain. but this would should be a 'global' change.. not just
for
Ian Holsman wrote:
> Noel J. Bergman wrote:
>>> I am talking purely about the technical issue of people being
>>> unable to download the software from mirrors.playboy.com. I
>>> am not talking about the logo/link to playboyenterprises.com.
>> Would a mirrors.playboyenterprises.com domain be less t
At 08:16 PM 8/26/2004, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
>I'm not quite sure how you interpreted my question to be a demand that
>someone change a domain name. However, if they want to be a mirror and *IF*
>their domain is widely blocked, thereby rendering the service ineffective,
>they might well be willin
I'm curious if the people whose firewalls block *.playboy.com and
*.playboyenterprises.com are able to access http://216.163.142.135/ at all.
--- Noel
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Subject: Re: Playboy mirror logo?
James Mitchell wrote:
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For the record (and if I wasn't clear before) I am NOT against playboy
being a mirror or Apache using the mirror (whether it is being blocked or
not). I AM against putting a link and/or image that links from Apache to
playboy.
Trust me, I've been all over playboy.co
On Wed, 25 Aug 2004, James Mitchell wrote:
I am begging you!! DO NOT put their logo or link on our (yes,
OUR) web site. You can't even imagine what the media will do with this if
you do. God help us all.
You are exagerating to the extreme.
Go to google and count how many media organi
On 25 Aug 2004, at 15:53, Sam Ruby wrote:
The closest thing I see to that in your email is a suggestion that we
let the Eclipse Foundation be the final arbiter in who the Apache
Software Foundation will allow to be listed as an official mirror.
... or that the opinions of those who don't run thei
Right now we have no real policy with regard to Mirrors; essentially
anyone can run a mirror, tell us; we add and they get a logo if they
submit one as a small thank you.
Legally it is entireyly up to the ASF to choose whether to list a mirror
or not.
Recently Playboy.com submitted one. It was a
+1 to 'those that actually do infrastructure' for keeping our mirrors
running, including this one, if they want to (I'm for it, if that
matters, as long as it's a fast mirror). Hell, +1 for infrastructure
for having the patience for this thread!
{Exuent all remaining replies to community@ or [E
So let me put in my 5 cents into policy II:
-> Any company willing too mirror us can do so and can
have their logo+link handled.
-> Any submissions meeting the 3 mechanical goals below
will be swiftly handled and added.
Provided that
->They mirror us faithfully
Le 25 août 04, à 15:53, Sam Ruby a écrit :
...What Jim meant when he said that is that people should STOP saying
things like "I am begging you!!" and "God help us all.",
and START making concrete suggestions on how the policy itself should
change...
So how about:
a) In principle, onl
Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
Le 25 août 04, à 15:53, Sam Ruby a écrit :
...What Jim meant when he said that is that people should STOP saying
things like "I am begging you!!" and "God help us all.",
and START making concrete suggestions on how the policy itself should
change...
So how
Vadim Gritsenko wrote:
Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
Le 25 août 04, à 15:53, Sam Ruby a écrit :
...What Jim meant when he said that is that people should STOP saying
things like "I am begging you!!" and "God help us all.",
and START making concrete suggestions on how the policy itself sh
On 26 Aug 2004, at 15:18, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
I completely agree with Vadim.
if you don't like to download stuff from "playboy.com" don't. How hard
is that?
IIUC, the technical issue people are referring to is that the download
page (and the dropdown list of servers to download from) won't a
Steven Noels wrote:
On 26 Aug 2004, at 15:18, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
I completely agree with Vadim.
if you don't like to download stuff from "playboy.com" don't. How hard
is that?
IIUC, the technical issue people are referring to is that the download
page (and the dropdown list of servers to d
Thanks Vadim, I see your points and basically agree - Dirk's proposal
to accept all logos/mirrors with possible exceptions (illegal, banned,
found offensive by many) sounds easier and certainly good enough.
-Bertrand
(BTW, I havent found this playboy logo yet - bear with me, just back
from long
Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
(BTW, I havent found this playboy logo yet - bear with me, just back
from long holidays ;-)
Here we go:
http://mirrors.playboy.com/icons/playboy.gif
;-)
Vadim
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> http://mirrors.playboy.com/icons/playboy.gif
FWIW, while on-site at IBM, I could not access the mirror, even by IP
address.
--- Noel
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On Thu, 2004-08-26 at 02:01, Dirk-Willem van Gulik wrote:
> Right now we have no real policy with regard to Mirrors; essentially
> anyone can run a mirror, tell us; we add and they get a logo if they
> submit one as a small thank you.
>
> Legally it is entireyly up to the ASF to choose whether to
I suggest we simply drop the logos and hypertext links for all the mirrors.
We say that people who want to "give back" to Apache shouldn't care if we put
an @author "link" in the source code. (And I agree.)
So why not say that mirrors who want to "give back" to Apache shouldn't care if
we link
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