Re: [computer-go] Re: 9x9 vs 19x19 (was: computer-go Digest)

2007-05-22 Thread alain Baeckeroot
Le mardi 22 mai 2007 01:52, Dave Dyer a écrit : > > I figured that a credible anchor player for 19x19 might > need a lot of cycles, and need to play a lot of games > at first, so spreading the load would be a good idea. Maybe GNU Go 3.7.10 is _the_ good anchor player for 19x19: - everybody use it

Re: [computer-go] 9x9 vs 19x19 (was: computer-go Digest)

2007-05-22 Thread Jacques Basaldúa
Heikki Levanto wrote: > I think it is better to stick to 9x9 as the "beginners" tournament, > where it is easy to test new ideas in quick games, and 19x19 as the > "serious" tournament where we can see how good computers are at playing > the game like we humans do. I agree 100%. Other board size

Re: [computer-go] Re: Amsterdam 2007 paper

2007-05-22 Thread Rémi Coulom
Yamato wrote: Rémi, May I ask you some more questions? (1) You define Dj as Dj=Mij*ci+Bij. Is it not Aij but Bij? What does this mean? Yes, it is ! Thanks for pointing that mistake out. (2) You have relatively few shape patterns. How large is each pattern? 5x5, 7x7, or more? I

[computer-go] CGOS 19x19 almost ready.

2007-05-22 Thread Don Dailey
Ok the 19x19 server is almost ready. I would like to get 3 or 4 volunteers to run a copy of the Anchor. The Anchor will be GnuGo 3.7.10 with these parameters: gnugo --mode gtp --score aftermath --capture-all-dead --chinese-rules The idea is to have at least 1 or 2 playing at any given time

Re: [computer-go] CGOS 19x19 almost ready.

2007-05-22 Thread Joshua Shriver
I can run one. Let me know I can set it up tonight. -Josh On 5/22/07, Don Dailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ok the 19x19 server is almost ready. I would like to get 3 or 4 volunteers to run a copy of the Anchor. The Anchor will be GnuGo 3.7.10 with these parameters: gnugo --mode gtp --score

Re: [computer-go] CGOS 19x19 almost ready.

2007-05-22 Thread Heikki Levanto
On Tue, May 22, 2007 at 11:22:19AM -0400, Don Dailey wrote: > Ok the 19x19 server is almost ready. Great! > I would like to get 3 or 4 volunteers to run a copy of the Anchor. Since I asked for 19x19, I think it is fair if I colunteer. I put one running on my server box, a 2GHz Celeron, which d

Re: [computer-go] CGOS 19x19 almost ready.

2007-05-22 Thread Don Dailey
On Tue, 2007-05-22 at 17:35 +0200, Heikki Levanto wrote: > How about GnuGo-3.7.10-H Ok - I'm setting up GnuGo-3.7.10-H as an anchor. - Don ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-

[computer-go] Temporary instructions for CGOS 19x19

2007-05-22 Thread Don Dailey
The 19x19 is serving games right now and is up and running. Here are some temporary instructions on getting going until I fix things up a bit: 1. You must modify the tcl engine client slightly: 1.1 Server is the same (cgos.boardspace.net) 1.2 Port is 6819 (instead of 6867 for t

Re: [computer-go] CGOS 19x19 almost ready.

2007-05-22 Thread Don Dailey
I just sent out instructions on how to get on the server. All I need to know is the exact name you want to use on CGOS and I can set it up as an Anchor. Be sure to run it exactly as specified using GnuGo 3.7.10 - Don On Tue, 2007-05-22 at 11:35 -0400, Joshua Shriver wrote: > I can run one.

Re: [computer-go] CGOS 19x19 almost ready.

2007-05-22 Thread terry mcintyre
I can set up tomorrow. How about TMGnuGo3_7_10 or something like that? MMM, with 30 minute clock, does it make a difference how fast the various CPUs are, or is GnuGo3.7.10 sufficiently quick that it is unlikely to run out of time? Terry McIntyre UNIX for hire software development / systems ad

[computer-go] Temporary instructions for CGOS 19x19

2007-05-22 Thread Don Dailey
This list is weird. I have 2 emails on this list but when I use [EMAIL PROTECTED] it takes a long time for my post to get back to the list - at least from my site. But when I use the email of my local provider, it happens quickly! So I'm sending this again since it's been 1/2 hour and the prev

[computer-go] 9x9 and 19x19

2007-05-22 Thread Stefan Mertin
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007-05-22 17:55 Hi everyone! It is really exciting and captivating to follow the threads exchanged here and I have the impression that computer go is again coming in a very hot phase these days! After having done a lot 13x13 in 2002-2005 ( meanwhile with Wi

Re: [computer-go] CGOS 19x19 almost ready.

2007-05-22 Thread nando
On 5/22/07, Don Dailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ok the 19x19 server is almost ready. I would like to get 3 or 4 volunteers to run a copy of the Anchor. The Anchor will be GnuGo 3.7.10 with these parameters: gnugo --mode gtp --score aftermath --capture-all-dead --chinese-rules In GTP mode,

Re: [computer-go] CGOS 19x19 almost ready.

2007-05-22 Thread Ephrim Khong
Don Dailey wrote: > I would like to get 3 or 4 volunteers to run a copy of the Anchor. > [...] > The Anchors will be fixed at 1800 ELO. Just a thought: couldn't different speeds of the computers running the Anchors lead to differnt strengths? eph ___ c

Re: [computer-go] CGOS 19x19 almost ready.

2007-05-22 Thread Heikki Levanto
On Tue, May 22, 2007 at 12:10:36PM -0400, Don Dailey wrote: > Ok - I'm setting up GnuGo-3.7.10-H as an anchor. All works fine. It has played one game already. -- Heikki Levanto "In Murphy We Turst" heikki (at) lsd (dot) dk ___ computer-go mailin

Re: [computer-go] CGOS 19x19 almost ready.

2007-05-22 Thread Don Dailey
On Tue, 2007-05-22 at 09:29 -0700, terry mcintyre wrote: > I can set up tomorrow. How about TMGnuGo3_7_10 or something like that? How about TMGnuGo-3.7.10 which is a more conventional notation? I have set up TMGnuGo-3.7.10 as an anchor. I think that this version is sufficiently fast that it wi

[computer-go] 9x9 and 19x19

2007-05-22 Thread Stefan Mertin
Hi everyone! It is really exciting and captivating to follow the threads exchanged here and I have the impression that computer go is again coming in a very hot phase these days! After having done a lot 13x13 in 2002-2005 ( meanwhile with WinHonte, Explorer, ... 25 'classic' programs listed at

Re: [computer-go] CGOS 19x19 almost ready.

2007-05-22 Thread Christoph Birk
On Tue, 22 May 2007, Don Dailey wrote: Ok the 19x19 server is almost ready. I would like to get 3 or 4 volunteers to run a copy of the Anchor. The Anchor will be GnuGo 3.7.10 with these parameters: gnugo --mode gtp --score aftermath --capture-all-dead --chinese-rules Did you ever say which leve

Re: [computer-go] CGOS 19x19 almost ready.

2007-05-22 Thread Don Dailey
OK, everyone running a GnuGo anchor needs to know this. Let's make the default level be level 8 - since we want to be able to very comfortably run this on slow hardware. So let's make this the command for gnugo: gnugo --mode gtp --score aftermath --capture-all-dead

Re: [computer-go] CGOS 19x19 almost ready.

2007-05-22 Thread Don Dailey
On Tue, 2007-05-22 at 19:47 +0200, Ephrim Khong wrote: > Don Dailey wrote: > > I would like to get 3 or 4 volunteers to run a copy of the Anchor. > > [...] > > The Anchors will be fixed at 1800 ELO. > > Just a thought: couldn't different speeds of the computers running the > Anchors lead to differ

Re: [computer-go] Orego 5.04 released

2007-05-22 Thread Peter Drake
On May 20, 2007, at 8:08 AM, Stuart A. Yeates wrote: A couple of quick observations: In java it's usually faster on modern hardware to pipe serialised objects through a gzip filter before you serialise them to disk. Compression effort is more than offset by reduced disk bandwidth, which is ofte

Re: [computer-go] CGOS 19x19 almost ready.

2007-05-22 Thread terry mcintyre
ok. Will set up the min and max parameters as per email from DRD. Terry McIntyre UNIX for hire software development / systems administration / security [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message From: Don Dailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: computer-go Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 10:52:13 AM Subj

Re: [computer-go] Re: Amsterdam 2007 paper (final version)

2007-05-22 Thread Rémi Coulom
Hi, I have just updated my web page with the final version of my paper: http://remi.coulom.free.fr/Amsterdam2007/ I have tried to improve it based on all your comments and questions, and those of the workshop reviewer. I thank you all very much for your interesting remarks. I have not include

Re: [computer-go] CGOS 19x19 almost ready.

2007-05-22 Thread Chris Fant
I think that this version is sufficiently fast that it will move in time on most modern systems. You could also throw out the result when an anchor loses on time. ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailm

Re: [computer-go] CGOS 19x19 almost ready.

2007-05-22 Thread Don Dailey
Yes, see my later emails - It needs to be: gnugo --mode gtp --score aftermath --capture-all-dead --min-level 8 --max-level 8 --chinese-rules --positional-superko - Don On Tue, 2007-05-22 at 11:39 -0700, Christoph Birk wrote: > On Tue, 22 May

Re: [computer-go] Amsterdam paper

2007-05-22 Thread John Tromp
On 5/19/07, Thomas Wolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Here is another Amsterdam paper on Go, although about life & death and not full game playing. I may be missing the obvious, but in Section 4.2, Diagram 13, isn't Black 10 a basic ko violation? regards, -John ___

Re: [computer-go] Amsterdam paper

2007-05-22 Thread Thomas Wolf
> On 5/19/07, Thomas Wolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Here is another Amsterdam paper on Go, although about life & death > > and not full game playing. > > I may be missing the obvious, but in Section 4.2, Diagram 13, > isn't Black 10 a basic ko violation? Yes, that eats up one of the necessa

[computer-go] CGOS

2007-05-22 Thread Don Dailey
CGOS is down. There appears to be a physical problem with the cgos boardspace server and it's my understanding it is being looked at. It may be several hours before it is back - since it is late here and I don't know how long it will be before it's fixed. - Don