Re: [CGUYS] Windows 7 *user* reviews [Was: Office 2007]

2009-03-27 Thread Fred Holmes
If I understand things correctly, all of these marvelous new ways of keeping track of data files requires indexing the files. And the index is a weak point for a hacker break-in to find exactly what he is looking for on your computer. I'd like to have the option of turning off _all_ indexing

Re: [CGUYS] Windows 7 *user* reviews [Was: Office 2007]

2009-03-27 Thread Chris Dunford
If I understand things correctly, all of these marvelous new ways of keeping track of data files requires indexing the files No, indexing has nothing to do with libraries. * ** List info, subscription management, list

Re: [CGUYS] Windows 7 *user* reviews [Was: Office 2007]

2009-03-27 Thread Chris Dunford
I understood libraries couldn't do more then aggregate folders not file types. I didn't mean to imply that libraries aggregate by file type. Just the opposite, really. Instead of containing all pictures or videos or whatever, they would contain everything related to your collection of lemurs or

Re: [CGUYS] Windows 7 *user* reviews [Was: Office 2007]

2009-03-27 Thread Chris Dunford
This sort of data storage arrangement has always seemed to me to be the wrong way to go. The first thing that I do when I set up a new computer is arrange storage of data files by topic (content), not by data type You can organize libraries any way you want. It's just a collection of folders

Re: [CGUYS] Windows 7 *user* reviews [Was: Office 2007]

2009-03-27 Thread Fred Holmes
At 09:58 PM 3/26/2009, katan wrote: The Libraries folder seems pointless. It's just a rehash of some of the folders in Username (My Pictures, My Music, My Documents, and My Videos). This sort of data storage arrangement has always seemed to me to be the wrong way to go. The first thing that I

Re: [CGUYS] OS X Migration A**istant is broken

2009-03-27 Thread b_s-wilk
I backed up the boot drive to an external FireWire drive and plugged it into the iMac. Migration assistant only sees two accounts that I deleted several months ago, and not the one user account that's current. I assume the deleted accounts are in a preference somewhere, but where? Check the

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters - and Silverlight

2009-03-27 Thread Chris Dunford
I went to the Microsoft website this week for information. It turned out to be in a Silverlight video. Silverlight doesn't run on the Mac I was using. MS has cooperated with Flip4Mac to replace Windows Media Player, yet their Silverlight doesn't run Are you saying that Silverlight's Mac

Re: [CGUYS] Windows 7 *user* reviews [Was: Office 2007]

2009-03-27 Thread mike
Right...but I still have to sort them. I want a system that can analyze tags so when I open a folder labeled 'industrial' I get all my music that is tagged as such no matter where it is. We spend time tagging photos, tagging music...tagging docs and windows still does nothing with those. On

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters - and Silverlight

2009-03-27 Thread mike
It works only on intel based macs...perhaps that was the issue? On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 7:09 AM, b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es wrote: The videos are up on the MS site, but they would not play on my PC. Maybe I should have tried it with my Mac, but lazy me, I found it on youtube. Search on Laptop

Re: [CGUYS] Windows 7 *user* reviews [Was: Office 2007]

2009-03-27 Thread mike
http://lifehacker.com/software/optimization/turn-off-indexing-and-speed-up-windows-xp-031440.php That shows you how to turn off indexing, on my xp installs I didn't think indexing was on, I had to switch it on. Mike On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 2:33 AM, Fred Holmes f...@his.com wrote: If I

Re: [CGUYS] Windows 7 *user* reviews [Was: Office 2007]

2009-03-27 Thread Chris Dunford
Right...but I still have to sort them. I want a system that can analyze tags so when I open a folder labeled 'industrial' I get all my music that is tagged as such no matter where it is. We spend time tagging photos, tagging music...tagging docs and windows still does nothing with those.

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters

2009-03-27 Thread Tom Piwowar
WARNING: Due to a Presidential Executive Order, the National Security Agency may have read this email without warning, warrant or notice. Wrong President. Letterman reports that Bush finally has a 100% approval rating: 100% approve that he is not President.

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters

2009-03-27 Thread Tom Piwowar
Nice spin, but no, their primary point is having a choice. On her $1,000 budget she could choose between many PCs, or she could take the one Mac, which didn't fit her requirements. Well I guess if you want to go totally Socialist on us, that could be the point. She wanted a Mac. She went first

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters

2009-03-27 Thread mike
Right president...need to get your news from somewhere other then the obama fan brigade. On 3/27/09, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: WARNING: Due to a Presidential Executive Order, the National Security Agency may have read this email without warning, warrant or notice. Wrong President.

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters

2009-03-27 Thread Tom Piwowar
That cost factor thing is what I most often hear from folks looking to buy a computer, but quite often I get the feeling that cost really isn't the issue as much as the fear of switching. Then they should be really, really scared of Vista, Vista 2 and Office Vista edition. Those all have wacko

Re: [CGUYS] Windows 7 *user* reviews [Was: Office 2007]

2009-03-27 Thread Tom Piwowar
The UAC doesn't get in the way all that much. Although it can get tedious if you're doing some system maintenance, it's not that hard to plug in the admin password when installing a new program, but I found it odd that you need admin privileges to delete desktop icons. Probably icons for all

Re: [CGUYS] Windows 7 *user* reviews [Was: Office 2007]

2009-03-27 Thread Tom Piwowar
I want to turn off all of that automation -- such automation is just one more way for hackers to do something malicious. So how come clicking on Do Nothing and checking the box to always perform the selected action does nothing? Is MS trying to be funny?

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters

2009-03-27 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
So what you are saying Tom is that Mac's now need to carry a luxury tax as they are only purchased by the rich? Hold the presses, we found another way for the Government to raise money!!! Stewart At 01:09 PM 3/27/2009, you wrote: Nice spin, but no, their primary point is having a choice.

Re: [CGUYS] OS X Migration A**istant is broken

2009-03-27 Thread Tom Piwowar
Where is the data for the user accounts stored? In the main Library or System/Library--and which folder/file? Can it be edited in Terminal? Migration Assistant displays the list of user accounts with a check box for each account. You only check the accounts you want transferred.

Re: [CGUYS] Windows 7 *user* reviews [Was: Office 2007]

2009-03-27 Thread Tom Piwowar
Actually it wasn't a ripoff from Apple, gadgets/widgets whatever you want to call them were around a long time before Apple. for DOS it was called Sidekick. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives,

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters

2009-03-27 Thread Tom Piwowar
Hold the presses, we found another way for the Government to raise money!!! I'm going to tell Rush about you. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map,

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters

2009-03-27 Thread mike
Or she just figured she didn't want to spend twice as much for 'look and feel'. On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 11:09 AM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: Nice spin, but no, their primary point is having a choice. On her $1,000 budget she could choose between many PCs, or she could take the one Mac,

Re: [CGUYS] Change isn't always good

2009-03-27 Thread Tom Piwowar
The problem was it wasn't his logic it was someone else's logic. That is the problem with these sort of organizational reworks- what is logical for some is a muddle for others. They probably need a way to rearrange ribbons to fit individual work flows. I guess I could be kind and say that you

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters

2009-03-27 Thread Fred Holmes
I don't mind if Bush's NSA reads my e-mail, but I don't want Obama's NSA doing it. Fred Holmes At 01:44 PM 3/27/2009, Tom Piwowar wrote: WARNING: Due to a Presidential Executive Order, the National Security Agency may have read this email without warning, warrant or notice. Wrong President.

Re: [CGUYS] Windows 7 *user* reviews [Was: Office 2007]

2009-03-27 Thread Tom Piwowar
I have them on XP called Widgets and Yahoo does them. Yahoo bought out Mac developer Konfabulator. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters

2009-03-27 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Ditto? Stewart At 01:49 PM 3/27/2009, you wrote: Hold the presses, we found another way for the Government to raise money!!! I'm going to tell Rush about you. Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82

Re: [CGUYS] Windows 7 *user* reviews [Was: Office 2007]

2009-03-27 Thread mike
mac and windows developer konfabulator. Not to mention the half dozen other companies that did gagdgets on windows and linux for years. On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: I have them on XP called Widgets and Yahoo does them. Yahoo bought out Mac developer

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters

2009-03-27 Thread Chris Dunford
She wanted a Mac. She went first to the Mac store. I wish I could visit your imaginary world some day. Does Mrs. Butterworth fix you breakfast every day, saying Good morning, dear! And a lovely one it is, too! * ** List

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters

2009-03-27 Thread Tom Piwowar
Or she just figured she didn't want to spend twice as much for 'look and feel'. Then you must explain why she first went to the Apple Store. It is obvious that she truly, truly wanted a Macintosh. She was disappointed that she was not sufficiently valued by society so that she could afford a

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters

2009-03-27 Thread mike
She might have thought that finally apple was making computers for the regular person who can't spend two grand on a basic model. Alas, we all can't be so cool that Jobs considers us. On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 1:59 PM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: Or she just figured she didn't want to

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters

2009-03-27 Thread Constance Warner
Hey, guys. You don't need to exaggerate to make your point. BTW, if you really believe that a BASIC Mac costs 2 K, then your idea of basic is very different from mine. [To be boringly factual, you can do well for a lot less.] --Constance Warner On Mar 27, 2009, at 5:11 PM, mike wrote:

[CGUYS] Fast updates!

2009-03-27 Thread Eric S. Sande
We are being watched closely. Yeah, scary isn't it. Check this Wikipedia article, picture upper right had been flipped, cropped, and updated within moments of its hitting NASA's web site. Amazing. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Space_Station

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters

2009-03-27 Thread mike
Well I only match Tom's sarcasm for fun. Indeed the 2k model is a midrange mac according to apple. Truly it's hard to compare macs to other pc's, if the large extra cost is worth the OS to those who buy it, then good for them, really, that's great. Some don't want the larger price for what is

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters

2009-03-27 Thread Chris Dunford
Then you must explain why she first went to the Apple Store. It is obvious that she truly, truly wanted a Macintosh All right, she did originally, because someone told her they were shiny. But when she tried one she hated it. She detested it. And all the Geniuses in the store were laughing

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters

2009-03-27 Thread E. Riley Casey
I have yet to see the advertisement that seems to have sparked this little digression on the part of the denizens of the list. I am curious as to how it is that the focus has so quickly jumped to socialism and class warfare ( admittedly from the usual suspects ) without any real comment on

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters

2009-03-27 Thread mike
From reports, Bill Gates was never happy about those I'm a mac/pc ads. Ever reactionary, MS has been trying to compete with the combination of the apparently failure of vista and OS X's increasing (although still small) market share.

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters

2009-03-27 Thread Tom Piwowar
software maker feeling the need to advertise a third party product ( an HP computer I believe in this case ) at the expense of a competitor with less than 10% of the market in question. I'm as partisan as the next bozo on the list but how is this not the topic of the thread on a computer

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters

2009-03-27 Thread Tom Piwowar
There is a tinge of truth I think to the elitist attitude expressed more by Apple in general then paticular users, although it's not hard to run into those users if you look around. Her line about not being cool enough for Apple has that tinge of sarcastic truth that some feel. Perhaps you may

Re: [CGUYS] Change isn't always good

2009-03-27 Thread Jeff Wright
MS has badly screwed up with the architecture of Office. We used to start training classes with a bird's eye view to give students a framework for what we were going to cover in class. So I know the problem from close observation and careful note taking. We kept having to edit the pages on

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters

2009-03-27 Thread Tom Piwowar
Well I only match Tom's sarcasm for fun. I was not being sarcastic. Merely factual. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters

2009-03-27 Thread Tom Piwowar
Hey, guys. You don't need to exaggerate to make your point. BTW, if you really believe that a BASIC Mac costs 2 K, then your idea of basic is very different from mine. [To be boringly factual, you can do well for a lot less.] I just bought several new Macs from Apple's online store for

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters

2009-03-27 Thread Jeff Wright
Well I only match Tom's sarcasm for fun. Indeed the 2k model is a midrange mac according to apple. Truly it's hard to compare macs to other pc's, if the large extra cost is worth the OS to those who buy it, then good for them, really, that's great. Some don't want the larger price for

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters

2009-03-27 Thread Jeff Wright
Perhaps you may have been hoodwinked? This shopper was an actress (a real one: member of the Screen Actors Guild http://www.mercurynews.com/ci_12003603), not a real shopper. We will probably never know how much of the dialog was improv vs. scripted. I'm sure MS has enrolled Lauren in the

Re: [CGUYS] OS X Migration A**istant is broken

2009-03-27 Thread betty
Where is the data for the user accounts stored? In the main Library or System/Library--and which folder/file? Can it be edited in Terminal? Migration Assistant displays the list of user accounts with a check box for each account. You only check the accounts you want transferred. The fun

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters - and Silverlight

2009-03-27 Thread betty
I went to the Microsoft website this week for information. It turned out to be in a Silverlight video. Silverlight doesn't run on the Mac I was using. MS has cooperated with Flip4Mac to replace Windows Media Player, yet their Silverlight doesn't run Are you saying that Silverlight's

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters

2009-03-27 Thread Jeff Wright
ComputerWorld http://blogs.computerworld.com/node/13577/print has an interesting review of the computer Lauren supposedly bought. This is the kind of setup that sparked the 'Made for Vista' lawsuits. ...has the worst screen I have seen in my life. ...loaded up with trial crapware. Its

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters

2009-03-27 Thread Eric S. Sande
Perhaps you may have been hoodwinked? Hoodwinked? Never. When I saw her I was immediately impressed with her self-posession, fashion sense, and her really nice, uh, hairdo. Not that I believe anything I see on TV. Office manager covers a lot of territory, as does actress. So does recent

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters - and Silverlight

2009-03-27 Thread Jeff Wright
MS has cooperated with Flip4Mac to replace Windows Media Player, yet their Silverlight doesn't run. It's not universal like Flash or MPEG. What's the point of Silverlight? What kind of business model is that? Built-in failure or intimidation or just bad design? I'm betting that Flash wasn't

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters

2009-03-27 Thread Jeff Wright
Perhaps you may have been hoodwinked? This shopper was an actress (a real one: member of the Screen Actors Guild http://www.mercurynews.com/ci_12003603), not a real shopper. We will probably never know how much of the dialog was improv vs. scripted. John Hodgeman is *really* a PC and Justin

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters

2009-03-27 Thread betty
She wanted a Mac. She went first to the Mac store. I wish I could visit your imaginary world some day. Does Mrs. Butterworth fix you breakfast every day, saying Good morning, dear! And a lovely one it is, too! I looked at the video. Lauren didn't go into the Apple Store at all. She walked to

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters

2009-03-27 Thread betty
Hey, guys. You don't need to exaggerate to make your point. BTW, if you really believe that a BASIC Mac costs 2 K, then your idea of basic is very different from mine. [To be boringly factual, you can do well for a lot less.] I just bought several new Macs from Apple's online store for

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters

2009-03-27 Thread mike
Ya got an url for those mythical beasts, cheapest mac I've seen around there was the 599 mac mini... On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 5:41 PM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: Hey, guys. You don't need to exaggerate to make your point. BTW, if you really believe that a BASIC Mac costs 2 K, then your

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters

2009-03-27 Thread Eric S. Sande
Wow! Another fake M$ ad with ACTORS! What a surprise! Well, there are more than enough smart people on this list to dissect the crap out of the ad. Regardless of the individual credibility of Lauren, which can't be spoken to without more information, and the credibility of Microsoft, which

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters

2009-03-27 Thread Jeff Wright
I looked at the video. Lauren didn't go into the Apple Store at all. She walked to the door, turned around and walked away. Same guy is walking past in both scenes. Wow! Another fake M$ ad with ACTORS! What a surprise! Or maybe, just maybe, it was a representation of an idea, that worked,

[CGUYS] Honda Busts Out Programming Skilz In New Insight Ad

2009-03-27 Thread Jeff Wright
http://jalopnik.com/5186976/honda-busts-out-programming-skilz-in-new-insight -ad?autoplay=true Titled Let It Shine and set to the tune This Little Light Of Mine, the ad uses a huge field of Honda Insights, all hooked together in an array and using their headlights for some old-fashioned pixel