Re: [CGUYS] You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?

Link? Second time I've asked you to back up an assertion...you ignored the first time, got a link this time? How about we agree that even if this did happen, at least that phone vendor doesn't assume all it's customers are stupid as Apple assumes all it's customers are morons not able to make cho

Re: [CGUYS] You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?

Tom imagines a lot...now he is imagining a world where everyone is controlled. Typically, people like this are really the ones being controlled...as Apple does to it's users. On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 7:40 PM, t.piwowar wrote: > On Jan 30, 2010, at 6:46 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: > >> However

Re: [CGUYS] You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?

Who feeds you this nonsense? I carry my netbook around in a small pouch (similar in size to an Ipad) I can plug my camera card in, no problem. Plug my memory stick in no problem. Want to do a PPT presentation, hook it up to the video projector all without carrying an extra cord, dongle, plug

Re: [CGUYS] You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?

On Jan 30, 2010, at 6:46 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: However, and while this does not negate the previous sentence, most computer buyers still prefer to use, by a wide margin, computers that run under Windows as opposed to the Mac OS. False. People who have a real free choice very rarely pic

Re: [CGUYS] You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?

On Jan 30, 2010, at 6:30 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: I was not reacting to anything that Apple did or did not do. I was querying you about why you were telling someone that wanting to have a USB port is a symptom of "clinging to the past," seemingly some kind of disorder in your view, and al

Re: [CGUYS] You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?

On Jan 30, 2010, at 8:09 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: Lets agree on one things. Apple is a hardware company. MS is a software company. The best stuff M$ makes is hardware. For example, their keyboards and mice are quite nice. *

Re: [CGUYS] You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?

On Jan 30, 2010, at 4:26 PM, David K Watson wrote: As for Apple's <> app restrictions, I have to say that if they have allowed 140,000+ applications ranging from useless and/or disturbing apps like iFart and Fishbate (you don't really want to know) to things like Google Voice, then those restrict

Re: [CGUYS] You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?

On Jan 30, 2010, at 5:30 PM, David K Watson wrote: While price was probably an issue, I don't myself think that it was the main one in Apple's decision to keep the physical interfaces to a minimum. Apple likes to promote itself as the company whose devices just work, and if they had USB ports on

Re: [CGUYS] You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?

Lets agree on one things. Apple is a hardware company. MS is a software company. MS will never design nor build computers and devices as slick as Apple as I do not believe that they invest the amount of money in them that Apple does. MS makes some good peripherals, like mice, keyboards and

Re: [CGUYS] You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?

On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 4:46 PM, tjpa wrote: > On Jan 30, 2010, at 11:59 AM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> Microsoft Corporation has been far more successful than has Apple if >> you measure success by the number of product users and dollars >> generated through sales.  Microsoft also inspires

Re: [CGUYS] You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?

On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 4:43 PM, tjpa wrote: > All that is true, but where did I say you should rush out and get one? You didn't, thus that is not what I was responding to or talking about. > I think you don't remember the angst Apple caused when the Mac had an > AppleTalk port instead of pa

Re: [CGUYS] Disposing old computers

In the DC area you can donate them to Project Reboot (http://reboot.cpcug.org/), which will refurbish them and sell them at incredibly low cost to those less fortunate than we. Here's an excerpt from their website: "Project Reboot accepts computer hardware and software donations at ourworksho

Re: [CGUYS] You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?

> Chris, you're wrong or misleading on many of your criticisms of the > iPad. First, it's not "a midsize touchscreen", it's a large size > multitouch screen, one of the largest to be readily available. You > have to have some experience with multitouch devices, particularly > Apple's, to really h

Re: [CGUYS] safari and new windows vs tabs

That's where I am at...kinda makes safari too annoying to use if I never know when I click a link if I'm getting a new window, new tab or reload on the same page. http://twitter.com/#search?q=%22Apple%20iPad%22%20OR%20%23Ipad When you click on a twitpic link etc on that page, it opens a new tab i

Re: [CGUYS] Disposing old computers

On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 4:52 PM, Richard P. wrote: > What's the best way to get rid of old computers? I have 3 old WinBook > business laptops which were taken out of service many years ago and > have been just sitting around. The data has been deleted but that's > all. Recommendations please.

Re: [CGUYS] safari and new windows vs tabs

John Duncan Yoyo wrote: FWIW Safari does the same things on a Snow Leopard Mac. I recently put Snow on my MacBook Pro and I have not seen this behavior. But maybe it only happens on some web sights. I would not use it if it did. *

Re: [CGUYS] You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?

While price was probably an issue, I don't myself think that it was the main one in Apple's decision to keep the physical interfaces to a minimum. Apple likes to promote itself as the company whose devices just work, and if they had USB ports on the iPad then there would immediately be thousan

Re: [CGUYS] You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?

On Jan 30, 2010, at 11:59 AM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: Microsoft Corporation has been far more successful than has Apple if you measure success by the number of product users and dollars generated through sales. Microsoft also inspires this same so-called hatred. Such is often the fate of big

Re: [CGUYS] Apple's homepage for ipad...how long till they fix it? Re: [CGUYS] You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?

No, neo...that way it includes all those scary imaginary people you are always carping about. On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 2:30 PM, tjpa wrote: > On Jan 30, 2010, at 12:13 PM, mike wrote: > >> It's those evil dang neomicrosofticons! >> > > Necromicrosofticons. > > > >

Re: [CGUYS] safari and new windows vs tabs

So is this supposed to be a feature or a known bug? On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 2:19 PM, John Duncan Yoyo wrote: > FWIW Safari does the same things on a Snow Leopard Mac. > > On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 12:11 PM, mike wrote: > > > So off to chrome or FF I suppose. > > > > On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 7:56 AM

[CGUYS] Disposing old computers

What's the best way to get rid of old computers? I have 3 old WinBook business laptops which were taken out of service many years ago and have been just sitting around. The data has been deleted but that's all. Recommendations please. Thanks in advance, Richard P. **

Re: [CGUYS] You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?

On Jan 30, 2010, at 11:28 AM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: Well, just last evening you told someone here on the list that to want to have a computing device with a USB port is clinging to the past and represents a means of transferring data or interfacing with a computer that is on its way out. Yo

Re: [CGUYS] You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?

Chris, you're wrong or misleading on many of your criticisms of the iPad. First, it's not "a midsize touchscreen", it's a large size multitouch screen, one of the largest to be readily available. You have to have some experience with multitouch devices, particularly Apple's, to really have th

Re: [CGUYS] Apple's homepage for ipad...how long till they fix it? Re: [CGUYS] You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?

On Jan 30, 2010, at 12:13 PM, mike wrote: It's those evil dang neomicrosofticons! Necromicrosofticons. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and mo

Re: [CGUYS] safari and new windows vs tabs

FWIW Safari does the same things on a Snow Leopard Mac. On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 12:11 PM, mike wrote: > So off to chrome or FF I suppose. > > On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 7:56 AM, John Duncan Yoyo > wrote: > > > On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 2:56 AM, mike wrote: > > > > > I don't feel bad because I have t

[CGUYS] Macmillan pulls books from amazon

http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/01/29/amazon-pulls-macmillan-books-over-e-book-price-disagreement/ The entirety of the article is below. As Venture Beat and other blogs have noticed Friday evening, books from Macmillan, one of the larges

[CGUYS] Citrix will have an iPad app to run Windows 7 sessions | Mobilize - InfoWorld

WOOHOO! Windows on an iPad!! http://www.infoworld.com/d/mobilize/citrix-will-have-ipad-app-run-windows-7-sessions-361 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a me

[CGUYS] ipad..test for yourself

http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/30/ipad-ui-gets-ported-to-the-iphone-and-ipod-touch/ Ipad UI ported to iphone/ipod touch. YMMV * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness

Re: [CGUYS] You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?

Actually I think Gary Trudeau was modeling his latest comic strip after Tom. Stewart At 11:26 AM 1/30/2010, you wrote: Is it possible for you to make ANY sense? This BBC article which I read previously is one big sh*tpile, the author has no grasp on things like the constitution and the people

Re: [CGUYS] You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?

Very likely. I agree with your point. The lack of interfaces on the iPod probably saves a lot of money. When they make a useful device, I'll save up my nickels and buy it. Since the main use I have for a small, light-weight portable computer is to write very large (novel-length) text doc

Re: [CGUYS] You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?

Is it possible for you to make ANY sense? This BBC article which I read previously is one big sh*tpile, the author has no grasp on things like the constitution and the people who believe in it. Now anyone who doesn't like something Apple does has a deep seated hatred for them... You have become

Re: [CGUYS] You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?

> In other words, Apple's constant success and innovation inspires deep > hatred merely because Apple is so successful. You're projecting again. You hate MS, therefore we must hate Apple. Wrong. I have no "hatred" of Apple. I don't even dislike Apple. I think Mac, iPhone, and iPod are all excep

Re: [CGUYS] You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?

What innovation? It's a big ipod touch...literally. That's all it is. The iPhone...now that you could say was innovative. This is just making the exact same thing larger. That's hardly innovation. On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 8:50 AM, tjpa wrote: > > Who said you should? I'm just enjoying a real

Re: [CGUYS] Apple's homepage for ipad...how long till they fix it? Re: [CGUYS] You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?

It's those evil dang neomicrosofticons! The black helo's are coming to get you Tom! On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 8:14 AM, tjpa wrote: > On Jan 30, 2010, at 1:32 AM, David K Watson wrote: > >> Why is everyone making a big fuss about this? >> > > Why did the wing nuts come up with "death panels" and "

Re: [CGUYS] You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?

> Again you are pining for the parallel port. Very few people want to take their > computers apart. Service is easy to get and priced reasonably. Apple routinely waves > fees and offers huge trade-in discounts. By giving up on making some of their products > easy to open Apple reduced costs, mad

Re: [CGUYS] safari and new windows vs tabs

So off to chrome or FF I suppose. On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 7:56 AM, John Duncan Yoyo wrote: > On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 2:56 AM, mike wrote: > > > I don't feel bad because I have that setting checked and it still opens > new > > windows. > > > > http://twitter.com/#search?q=%22Apple%20iPad%22%20OR%

Re: [CGUYS] You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?

On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 11:15 AM, tjpa wrote: > In other words, Apple's constant success and innovation inspires deep hatred > merely because Apple is so successful. Microsoft Corporation has been far more successful than has Apple if you measure success by the number of product users and doll

Re: [CGUYS] You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?

On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 10:50 AM, tjpa wrote: > On Jan 29, 2010, at 11:28 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> Should I ditch my iMac right now because something is coming or is >> already here that can supplant it?  Am I clinging to the past because >> my iMac is only 2.4 GHz and actually has a

Re: [CGUYS] You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?

Here is an interesting BBC News story about politics that I think has a close connection to how some are reacting to the iPad. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8474611.stm Why do people often vote against their own interests? "Political scientist Dr David Runciman looks at why is there ofte

Re: [CGUYS] You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?

On Jan 29, 2010, at 11:28 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: Should I ditch my iMac right now because something is coming or is already here that can supplant it? Am I clinging to the past because my iMac is only 2.4 GHz and actually has a CD/DVD drive as well as USB and an already obsolete FireWire

Re: [CGUYS] You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?

On Jan 29, 2010, at 11:14 PM, b_s-wilk wrote: Apple doesn't lead. They take mostly existing technology and make it better--sometimes. I worked for Apple. My cousin is an Apple engineer. Their PR is amazing, so is Steve Jobs' reality distortion field. I think you are blinded by ideology. Yo

Re: [CGUYS] Apple's homepage for ipad...how long till they fix it? Re: [CGUYS] You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?

He has just gotten up to bat it remains to be seen whether or not he has hit a home run. Wait till it goes on sale and then you can carp or eat crow. Stewart At 09:14 AM 1/30/2010, you wrote: On Jan 30, 2010, at 1:32 AM, David K Watson wrote: Why is everyone making a big fuss about this?

Re: [CGUYS] Apple's homepage for ipad...how long till they fix it? Re: [CGUYS] You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?

On Jan 30, 2010, at 1:32 AM, David K Watson wrote: Why is everyone making a big fuss about this? Why did the wing nuts come up with "death panels" and "Obamacare"? Some people are uncontrollably attracted to doing evil. It infuriates them to see Apple hit yet another home run. **

Re: [CGUYS] Kindle

On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 12:01 AM, Marcio wrote: > Which one is better, the Kindle or the Kindle DX ? > > That is a matter of taste question. DX is bigger and has the ability to import pdfs but that may have changed in the latest Kindle software. This is the best comparison I found. http://ire

Re: [CGUYS] Kindle

On Jan 30, 2010, at 12:01 AM, Marcio wrote: Which one is better, the Kindle or the Kindle DX ? Depends on personal preference. I fond the regular Kindle screen to be too tiny. It is like reading a postcard. The DX is more like reading a page in a book. In any event, wait for a big price d

Re: [CGUYS] safari and new windows vs tabs

On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 2:56 AM, mike wrote: > I don't feel bad because I have that setting checked and it still opens new > windows. > > http://twitter.com/#search?q=%22Apple%20iPad%22%20OR%20%23Ipad > Yep it does the same for me on the PC. > > If you take safari there, and click on a picture

Re: [CGUYS] You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?

On Jan 29, 2010, at 6:37 PM, Chris Dunford wrote: Being able to get your music from wherever you want is just a "bullet point"? Being able to run programs from whoever you want is just a "bullet point"? Multitasking is just a "bullet point"? Seriously? I mean, really, SERIOUSLY? How Chris

Re: [CGUYS] safari and new windows vs tabs

I don't feel bad because I have that setting checked and it still opens new windows. http://twitter.com/#search?q=%22Apple%20iPad%22%20OR%20%23Ipad If you take safari there, and click on a picture link in one of the tweets, does it open a new window or a new tab? On mine it's a new window...desp

Re: [CGUYS] Apple's homepage for ipad...how long till they fix it? Re: [CGUYS] You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?

Looks like Apple changed the image to remove the flash part. Didn't take long. On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 11:32 PM, David K Watson wrote: > Why is everyone making a big fuss about this? The most likely > explanation is that this is a production error, and Apple will have > to fix it soon or get su