Re: [CGUYS] M$ Decline Continues

2010-05-04 Thread mike
Chrome just released another beta that is supposedly faster than anything previously released. Haven't tried it yet, I've stopped trying Opera, it does everything and none too well. Never really saw the point of Safari, tried it and it did weird things with tabs taking them out of user control.

Re: [CGUYS] M$ Decline Continues

2010-05-04 Thread Chris Dunford
For the first time since ... Whatever. I'd just like to point out that the continued use of the now decades-old M$ has become so trite, so lame, so boring, so unimaginative, so repetitive. So silly. So utterly Oh, give it a rest. So over. I'm just saying.

Re: [CGUYS] M$ Decline Continues

2010-05-04 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
I go between both Firefox and IE. Occasionally I get a page with security (governmental web sites are notorious) that just do not function correctly with Firefox. Stewart At 12:23 PM 5/4/2010, you wrote: Just goes to prove once again that no person and no thing ever remains at the top of

Re: [CGUYS] Thoughts on Flash

2010-05-04 Thread b_s-wilk
On May 4, 2010, at 2:16 AM, mike wrote: A false argument, Apple supports all kinds of 'old technology', why does Apple still put USB on their systems? If you don't know that Apple is consistently the first to drop obsolete technologies you haven't been paying attention. You haven't even been

Re: [CGUYS] Thoughts on Flash

2010-05-04 Thread mike
Apple hasn't announced they stopped using USB at all. App syncing? Apple in February didn't drop USB app syncing iPhones it asked developers to stop using a hack for doing so. And then announced Apple would officially support USB app syncing. So they haven't dropped anything, they increased

[CGUYS] security softward - trendmicro - any information?

2010-05-04 Thread Mother Geek
Hi - I have a tech guru who wired my house who suggests dumping McAfee (even before last week's difficulty) and use Microtrend instead www.trendmicro.com Have any of you used this successfully? Is there something else you'd recommend? Thank you. /gayley knight

Re: [CGUYS] security softward - trendmicro - any information?

2010-05-04 Thread John DeCarlo
I like the free Comodo products. On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 5:37 PM, Mother Geek g...@mothergeek.com wrote: Hi - I have a tech guru who wired my house who suggests dumping McAfee (even before last week's difficulty) and use Microtrend instead www.trendmicro.com Have any of you used this

Re: [CGUYS] security softward - trendmicro - any information?

2010-05-04 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
I will check that one out. I have been using Avast Home. Stewart At 04:48 PM 5/4/2010, you wrote: I like the free Comodo products. On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 5:37 PM, Mother Geek g...@mothergeek.com wrote: Hi - I have a tech guru who wired my house who suggests dumping McAfee (even before

Re: [CGUYS] security softward - trendmicro - any information?

2010-05-04 Thread George Carr
5:37 PM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: [CGUYS] security softward - trendmicro - any information? Hi - I have a tech guru who wired my house who suggests dumping McAfee (even before last week's difficulty) and use Microtrend instead www.trendmicro.com Have any of you used

Re: [CGUYS] security softward - trendmicro - any information?

2010-05-04 Thread tjpa
On May 4, 2010, at 5:37 PM, Mother Geek wrote: Hi - I have a tech guru who wired my house who suggests dumping McAfee (even before last week's difficulty) and use Microtrend instead www.trendmicro.com Have any of you used this successfully? Is there something else you'd recommend? There

Re: [CGUYS] Thoughts on Flash

2010-05-04 Thread Wayne Dernoncourt
b_s-wilk snip Regarding Flash, Adobe has a knack for buying good programs and breaking, discontinuing, or overpricing them. Have they created any of their own products lately [in the past 15 years]? Apple didn't entirely ban Flash anyway. They require that apps for touch screens be

Re: [CGUYS] illegal search warrant?

2010-05-03 Thread David K Watson
Not quite sure what your point is here, 1 suicide in a population of 300 is a suicide rate of 1/300 and 3 suicides in a population of 900 is still a rate of 1/300, etc. We were talking about suicide _rates_, not raw numbers, and as I said, densely populated areas have lower suicide rates than

Re: [CGUYS] M$ Cancels Courier - Lost their Way?

2010-05-03 Thread Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS)
Source, Mike? Thank you, Mark Snyder -Original Message- Keep in mind, Apple's markup is about 50%...so HP could come in under. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** **

[CGUYS] XP -- indexing of external USB hard / flash drives

2010-05-03 Thread Fred Holmes
How does one turn off *absolutely* (or so that it only occurs on demand, and never by default) the process that starts indexing any USB-attached external hard drive or flash drive in Windows XP? It is never useful to me; I am always looking for an explicit file that I know how to find, or I'm

Re: [CGUYS] M$ Cancels Courier - Lost their Way?

2010-05-03 Thread mike
Yes, I'm playing a little fast with the 50% remark but this area of margins has been talked about in articles many times, here is one. The PC vendors typically have much much smaller margins due to competition amongst themselves.

Re: [CGUYS] M$ Cancels Courier - Lost their Way?

2010-05-03 Thread mike
http://blogs.wsj.com/marketbeat/2010/02/01/apple-ipad-to-deliver-50-margin-says-analyst/tab/article/ On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 4:43 AM, Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS) mark.sny...@ngc.com wrote: Source, Mike? Thank you, Mark Snyder -Original Message- Keep in mind, Apple's markup is about

Re: [CGUYS] M$ Cancels Courier - Lost their Way?

2010-05-03 Thread Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS)
Okay, but that reference is for iPods and is a year old. You were talking about PCs. Why are you crossing devices to compare? The iPod actually took so much market share competing with its rivals that many of them are gone or marginal. Your assertion is as suspect as your method. Thank you,

Re: [CGUYS] M$ Cancels Courier - Lost their Way?

2010-05-03 Thread mike
Sorry for the double post, forgot the URL. http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pcpop.com%2Fdoc%2F0%2F527%2F527783.shtmlsl=zh-CNtl=enhl=ie=UTF-8 On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 7:26 AM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: This unit would be considered I think competition for the iPad,

Re: [CGUYS] M$ Cancels Courier - Lost their Way?

2010-05-03 Thread mike
This unit would be considered I think competition for the iPad, it's about 300 bux. The biggest benefit of course for the iPad is the app store, makes entering this market near impossible for anyone. On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 4:43 AM, Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS) mark.sny...@ngc.com wrote: Source,

Re: [CGUYS] M$ Cancels Courier - Lost their Way?

2010-05-03 Thread tjpa
Tough competition... Apple said it sold one million iPads as of Friday, just 28 days after the touch-screen tablet computers went on sale in the U.S. Demand is such that consumers looking to purchase one of the devices face wait times of up to a week or more.

Re: [CGUYS] M$ Cancels Courier - Lost their Way?

2010-05-03 Thread mike
Weird...I walked into an Apple store and saw them ready for buying. And yes..almost impossible competition. On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 10:50 AM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: Tough competition... Apple said it sold one million iPads as of Friday, just 28 days after the touch-screen tablet computers

[CGUYS] Apple Anti-trust App

2010-05-03 Thread mike
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/business/an_antitrust_app_buvCWcJdjFoLD5vBSkguGO I was hoping Apple wouldn't get a pass on this deal, this control issue Apple has is BS from top to bottom. If MS did something like this we'd never hear the end of it, virtual silence since Apple implemented this.

Re: [CGUYS] M$ Cancels Courier - Lost their Way?

2010-05-03 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 10:46 PM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: What's next? Fusion Garage is still promising JooJoo delivery in a few months. Anybody want to wager on that? (On a side note, what't up with that name? I can understand changing it from CrunchPad, you don't want the word

[CGUYS] Thoughts on Flash

2010-05-03 Thread tjp
Have you read Job's essay on Flash? It really is well reasoned. And today M$ announced that they agree. http://www.apple.com/hotnews/thoughts-on-flash/ Flash was created during the PC era – for PCs and mice. Flash is a successful business for Adobe, and we can understand why they want to

Re: [CGUYS] Apple Anti-trust App

2010-05-03 Thread tjpa
The iPhone is now the top selling phone in the US. That is certainly going to get Apple a kind of legal attention it never had before. However, I expect that after Apple is finished explaining its actions the Feds will agree that Apple's actions are reasonable and not anti- competitive.

[CGUYS] Missing/delayed posts [Was: illegal search warrant?]

2010-05-03 Thread David K Watson
I sent this Saturday evening, and it's just now showed up. Some other emails seem to have never made it to the list at all. Is there anything I can do to improve the likelihood that my posts are received and on time? I'm willing to switch to another email account if it will help. On

Re: [CGUYS] Apple Anti-trust App

2010-05-03 Thread mike
This has zero to do with enforcing quality. On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 6:42 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: The iPhone is now the top selling phone in the US. That is certainly going to get Apple a kind of legal attention it never had before. However, I expect that after Apple is finished

[CGUYS] Pennsylvania webcam spying

2010-05-03 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
A just-released report into the Webcamgate scandal has found that Lower Merion School District officials knew that Harriton High School sophomore Blake Robbins had taken his school-issued laptop home. Yet, they decided in October 2009 to activate a controversial program that secretly captured

Re: [CGUYS] Pennsylvania webcam spying

2010-05-03 Thread mike
As said on first blush, this had nothing to do with security or getting a laptop back and more about control and voyeurism. On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 7:43 PM, phartz...@gmail.com phartz...@gmail.comwrote: A just-released report into the Webcamgate scandal has found that Lower Merion School

Re: [CGUYS] M$ Cancels Courier - Lost their Way?

2010-05-03 Thread David K Watson
Ah, that makes a lot of sense. Furthermore, it's something I should have known, since my son was very fond of the Tak video games and Nickelodeon series, Tak and the power of Juju. Just about all the jujus in the series were ridiculous in pretty gross ways, that can't help the JooJoo's

Re: [CGUYS] Thoughts on Flash

2010-05-03 Thread mike
While most agree flash is a PITA to develop for etc, here is another view. http://www.betanews.com/joewilcox/article/Steve-Jobs-Thoughts-on-Flash-is-just-smoke/1272565882 On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 6:25 PM, tjp t...@tjpa.com wrote: Have you read Job's essay on Flash? It really is well reasoned.

Re: [CGUYS] Missing/delayed posts [Was: illegal search warrant?]

2010-05-03 Thread Eric S. Sande
I sent this Saturday evening, and it's just now showed up. Some other emails seem to have never made it to the list at all. It seems to be an inconsistent delay. I'll usually see them all eventually, but it's disconcerting to see replies quoted to a post that's a reply to a post I made! And

Re: [CGUYS] Thoughts on Flash

2010-05-03 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 9:25 PM, tjp t...@tjpa.com wrote: Have you read Job's essay on Flash? It really is well reasoned. And today M$ announced that they agree. http://www.apple.com/hotnews/thoughts-on-flash/ Flash was created during the PC era – for PCs and mice. Flash is a successful

Re: [CGUYS] Thoughts on Flash

2010-05-03 Thread t.piwowar
On May 3, 2010, at 10:41 PM, mike wrote: While most agree flash is a PITA to develop for etc, here is another view. The reader comments were more insightful than the blogger's own... If you compare Flash and HTML5 then HTML5 wins every time so why bother supporting old technology, it just

Re: [CGUYS] Missing/delayed posts [Was: illegal search warrant?]

2010-05-03 Thread t.piwowar
On May 3, 2010, at 10:11 PM, David K Watson wrote: I sent this Saturday evening, and it's just now showed up. Some other emails seem to have never made it to the list at all. Your email moved quickly from server to server except for one hop: lserv-m02.elist.aol.com got it Sun, 2 May 2010

Re: [CGUYS] illegal search warrant?

2010-05-02 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 11:25 PM, Stewart Marshall revsamarsh...@earthlink.net wrote: They have maintained for some time that they have a unique status within the USA. (You might have heard the sound bite of their current governor a few months ago proposing secession?) Of course this is all

Re: [CGUYS] It's here...God help us

2010-05-02 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
Looking around on the internet reveals that virtually anyone who is commenting on driving while using an iPad thinks it is a fantastic idea. A number of commenters say that driving is boring, and having the ability to watch movies or play games while behind the wheel makes for a more enjoyable

Re: [CGUYS] It's here...God help us

2010-05-02 Thread mike
Nick Denton is in his forties...so some, not all. On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 5:32 AM, phartz...@gmail.com phartz...@gmail.comwrote: So, it is becoming quite clear to me that much of what is influencing the direction in which our digital world is being directed are very young and very immature

Re: [CGUYS] illegal search warrant?

2010-05-02 Thread David K Watson
Rick Perry is an embarrassment to the state educational system. He said when Texas entered the union in 1845, it was with the understanding it could later pull out. In fact, as the historical website points out (and Texas Monthly reminds its readers quite often), the agreement was that Texas

Re: [CGUYS] illegal search warrant?

2010-05-02 Thread mike
Most states are still republics to a point. Of course this depends on your view of what a republic is...I know one of the wacks on that TX board when they were reviewing their history books didn't want to include that the US was a republic, she felt it was misleading even if true. On Sun, May 2,

[CGUYS] A New Age of Enlightenment

2010-05-02 Thread tjpa
http://www.appleinsider.com/print/10/04/30/kraft_foods_adds_new_support_for_employees_choosing_macs.html Following the general trend away from top-down, centralized corporate computing monoculture, Kraft Foods has initiated a Bring Your Own Computer program for its employees, providing new

Re: [CGUYS] illegal search warrant?

2010-05-02 Thread tjpa
On May 1, 2010, at 7:18 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: You cannot have oil drilling off-shore without without accidents, spills and likely occasional disastrous consequences. Ditto for nuclear. * ** List info,

Re: [CGUYS] illegal search warrant?

2010-05-02 Thread tjpa
On May 1, 2010, at 7:18 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: I know he was, and personally I disagreed with that political decision. I thought such a wide open proposition was a recipe for looming disaster, and so did many others, including, as you point out, at least some conservatives. He threw

Re: [CGUYS] It's here...God help us

2010-05-02 Thread tjpa
On May 1, 2010, at 5:14 PM, Fred Holmes wrote: How do you visit clients [clients' sites] if you don't have/drive a car [or truck]? I typically walk. Have your feet atrophied? * ** List info, subscription

Re: [CGUYS] A New Age of Enlightenment

2010-05-02 Thread mike
Those five people will be really pleased they can bring a mac...corporate will be pleased they aren't having to send IT down any more since they discontinued support for employees computers. That part is the real story here. On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 11:41 AM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote:

Re: [CGUYS] It's here...God help us

2010-05-02 Thread tjpa
On May 2, 2010, at 8:32 AM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: Looking around on the internet reveals that virtually anyone who is commenting on driving while using an iPad thinks it is a fantastic idea. A number of commenters say that driving is boring, and having the ability to watch movies or play

Re: [CGUYS] illegal search warrant?

2010-05-02 Thread tjpa
On May 1, 2010, at 10:31 PM, Stewart Marshall wrote: Dont smear the whole state by this action. Perhaps, if this were the only example of same. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy **

Re: [CGUYS] It's here...God help us

2010-05-02 Thread tjpa
On May 2, 2010, at 8:32 AM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: A lot of these commenters live in California, and while they admit that using any device in a manner described above is illegal, they say that nobody cares about that and that such laws are stupid. Is this not another example of getting

Re: [CGUYS] illegal search warrant?

2010-05-02 Thread mike
We'll just power everything off hamsters. On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 11:53 AM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On May 1, 2010, at 7:18 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: You cannot have oil drilling off-shore without without accidents, spills and likely occasional disastrous consequences. Ditto for

Re: [CGUYS] A New Age of Enlightenment

2010-05-02 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 3:23 PM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: Those five people will be really pleased they can bring a mac...corporate will be pleased they aren't having to send IT down any more since they discontinued support for employees computers.  That part is the real story here.

Re: [CGUYS] It's here...God help us

2010-05-02 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 3:06 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: Is this not another example of getting the government off our backs? Who are they to tell us that we can't be watching porn and cleaning our guns as we zoom down the highway at 30 MPH over the speed limit, slowing down only while we

Re: [CGUYS] A New Age of Enlightenment

2010-05-02 Thread mike
And being their own computers, they don't have to worry about IT installing monitoring software on their laptops and watching them in their unmentionables at home. On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 12:39 PM, phartz...@gmail.com phartz...@gmail.comwrote: On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 3:23 PM, mike

Re: [CGUYS] It's here...God help us

2010-05-02 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 3:53 PM, phartz...@gmail.com phartz...@gmail.comwrote: On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 3:06 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: Is this not another example of getting the government off our backs? Who are they to tell us that we can't be watching porn and cleaning our guns as we

Re: [CGUYS] It's here...God help us

2010-05-02 Thread mike
That's what I think it is, Steve Jobs isn't against porn, he is using the massive numbers of all iphone users to find the good porn and using it for himself through Safari. On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 1:46 PM, John Duncan Yoyo johnduncany...@gmail.comwrote: I thought it was just that all Porn was

Re: [CGUYS] illegal search warrant?

2010-05-02 Thread Chris Dunford
BHO was all for drilling until the shit hit the fan. No, he was never all for drilling. He gave this to the Republicans in another one of his misguided attempts to be bipartisan or to get them to vote for something he wanted. When will he learn?

[CGUYS] Adobe Digital Editions

2010-05-02 Thread Stephen Brownfield
What does anyone know about Adobe Digital Editions? I was thinking of trying it on my Mac, but did not install it when I saw that it downloads and installs from the web. I like to be the one to install/uninstall programs on my computer. If I install it will I have problems uninstalling it?

Re: [CGUYS] illegal search warrant?

2010-05-02 Thread mike
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703572504575214593564769072.html Not a bad article on the matter. On May 2, 2010 5:59 PM, phartz...@gmail.com phartz...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 3:35 PM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: We'll just power everything off ha... I will be a

Re: [CGUYS] M$ Cancels Courier - Lost their Way?

2010-05-02 Thread David K Watson
MS aren't the only ones killing their prototype if this rumor bears out: http://techcrunch.com/2010/04/29/hewlett-packard-to-kill-windows-7-tablet-project/ HP is apparently killing its Slate tablet. It really isn't surprising, given that it was supposed to have more ports and memory than the

Re: [CGUYS] M$ Cancels Courier - Lost their Way?

2010-05-02 Thread mike
Keep in mind, Apple's markup is about 50%...so HP could come in under. There are net tops with win 7 and multiple ports for under 300. On May 2, 2010 7:40 PM, David K Watson davidkirkwat...@gmail.com wrote: MS aren't the only ones killing their prototype if this rumor bears out:

Re: [CGUYS] illegal search warrant?

2010-05-02 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 9:04 PM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703572504575214593564769072.html Not a bad article on the matter. Back in 2009 BP testified before a federal regulatory board about potential environmental damage that this particular

Re: [CGUYS] illegal search warrant?

2010-05-01 Thread Eric S. Sande
Generally, people who live in NoVa don't consider themselves residents of Virginia and feel shamed when reminded. Is that the general or the particular? Don't consider themselves residents of Virginia? Well, Richmond doesn't think so. Don't be ashamed of being a Virginian, Tom, here's a

[CGUYS] Harriton High School

2010-05-01 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
In the high school webcam spying situation, it has been revealed that very early on, just after those laptops were issued to students along with the spying software, a student at the high school wrote an e-mail to the head of the department that oversees the distribution of computers to

Re: [CGUYS] illegal search warrant?

2010-05-01 Thread tjpa
On May 1, 2010, at 5:52 AM, Eric S. Sande wrote: Don't be ashamed of being a Virginian, Tom, here's a nice warm bowl of grits and some frizzled ham for you, along with some Jeffersonian democracy. Back in the 18th century it was possible to be proud to be a Virginian. These days all we can

Re: [CGUYS] illegal search warrant?

2010-05-01 Thread tjpa
On May 1, 2010, at 12:39 AM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: Also statistics can be misleading. Statistics can be misused or misinterpreted, but they are never misleading. They just are what they are. * ** List info,

Re: [CGUYS] Some of you will find this tragic

2010-05-01 Thread tjpa
On Apr 30, 2010, at 2:21 PM, Jeff Miles wrote: Can't you just tape them together and put them in a player piano? Great idea. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy,

Re: [CGUYS] illegal search warrant?

2010-05-01 Thread tjpa
On Apr 30, 2010, at 1:01 PM, Jeff Miles wrote: I hate being stuck in the middle. I have to agree with you Mike. I'm a stanch liberal, but also a strong advocate of toting guns. For those who think guns kill people and not people kill people, by that logic we should ban cars. We should also

Re: [CGUYS] It's here...God help us

2010-05-01 Thread tjpa
On Apr 30, 2010, at 4:30 PM, mike wrote: http://gizmodo.com/5528388/scosche-takes-a-crack-at-a-dashboard-ipad-mount-%5Bupdated%5D Almost cool enough to convince me to buy a car. * ** List info, subscription management,

Re: [CGUYS] illegal search warrant?

2010-05-01 Thread tjpa
On May 1, 2010, at 1:19 PM, tjpa wrote: Back in the 18th century it was possible to be proud to be a Virginian. These days all we can be thankful for is that we are not Arizona. Though some of us aspire to that too Another example... http://www.timesnews.net/article.php?id=9022692

Re: [CGUYS] It's here...God help us

2010-05-01 Thread mike
Knowing you'd be paying more attention to pocket god than the road, I'm glad you don't have a car. On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 10:46 AM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Apr 30, 2010, at 4:30 PM, mike wrote: http://gizmodo.com/5528388/scosche-takes-a-crack-at-a-dashboard-ipad-mount-%5Bupdated%5D

Re: [CGUYS] Cuccinelli (was: illegal search warrant?)

2010-05-01 Thread Chris Dunford
On May 1, 2010, at 1:19 PM, tjpa wrote: Back in the 18th century it was possible to be proud to be a Virginian. These days all we can be thankful for is that we are not Arizona. Though some of us aspire to that too Another example... http://www.timesnews.net/article.php?id=9022692 And

Re: [CGUYS] illegal search warrant?

2010-05-01 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 2:32 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: Back in the 18th century it was possible to be proud to be a Virginian. These days all we can be thankful for is that we are not Arizona. Though some of us aspire to that too Another example...

Re: [CGUYS] It's here...God help us

2010-05-01 Thread Fred Holmes
At 01:46 PM 5/1/2010, tjpa wrote: Almost cool enough to convince me to buy a car. How do you visit clients [clients' sites] if you don't have/drive a car [or truck]? Fred Holmes * ** List info, subscription

Re: [CGUYS] illegal search warrant?

2010-05-01 Thread Eric S. Sande
And the Governor of Virginia seys... Don't get all bent out of shape, BHO was all for drilling until the shit hit the fan. There are quite a few conservatives that are, actually, pretty conservative WRT this. And were from the start. That's why Sarah Palin wasn't acceptable to us. I speak

Re: [CGUYS] Cuccinelli (was: illegal search warrant?)

2010-05-01 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Ours is the exact opposite problem. Our governor has gone rouge by getting a chosen appointee top bust every Bingo parlor in the state with midnight raids and no warrants claiming it is his right. The AG has signed off on many of these when they have questioned him on wether or not they are

Re: [CGUYS] It's here...God help us

2010-05-01 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 5:14 PM, Fred Holmes f...@his.com wrote: How do you visit clients [clients' sites] if you don't have/drive a car [or truck]? I do not think that Tom does not have a vehicle to drive around. I think his thought is that not being able to perform computing chores as

Re: [CGUYS] illegal search warrant?

2010-05-01 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 5:20 PM, Eric S. Sande esa...@verizon.net wrote: Don't get all bent out of shape, BHO was all for drilling until the shit hit the fan. I know he was, and personally I disagreed with that political decision. I thought such a wide open proposition was a recipe for

Re: [CGUYS] illegal search warrant?

2010-05-01 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 5:52 AM, Eric S. Sande esa...@verizon.net wrote: Generally, people who live in NoVa don't consider themselves residents of Virginia and feel shamed when reminded. Is that the general or the particular? Don't consider themselves residents of Virginia? Well, Richmond

Re: [CGUYS] illegal search warrant?

2010-05-01 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 7:52 PM, John Duncan Yoyo johnduncany...@gmail.com wrote: Don't be ashamed of being a Virginian, Tom, here's a nice warm bowl of grits and some frizzled ham for you,  along with some Jeffersonian democracy. Texas threw him out of the textbooks for being to liberal.

Re: [CGUYS] illegal search warrant?

2010-05-01 Thread Stewart Marshall
Lets correct things a little bit here. A small group/committee decided this for the whole state. Kind of dumb but that is how it works. Similar problem in my church body a small group decides what our publishing house should put out. Dont smear the whole state by this action. But also

Re: [CGUYS] illegal search warrant?

2010-05-01 Thread mike
They are a republic..just like the US. On May 1, 2010 7:44 PM, Stewart Marshall revsamarsh...@earthlink.net wrote: Lets correct things a little bit here. A small group/committee decided this for the whole state. Kind of dumb but that is how it works. Similar problem in my church body a small

Re: [CGUYS] illegal search warrant?

2010-05-01 Thread Stewart Marshall
They have maintained for some time that they have a unique status within the USA. (You might have heard the sound bite of their current governor a few months ago proposing secession?) Of course this is all hogwash, but you know Texans bigger than snot and about as useful. Stewart At 09:55

Re: [CGUYS] illegal search warrant?

2010-04-30 Thread t.piwowar
On Apr 29, 2010, at 9:51 PM, Eric S. Sande wrote: Seen 'em, thanks. But you do realize that contrary to your statement what you suggest IS legal where you live. Generally, people who live in NoVa don't consider themselves residents of Virginia and feel shamed when reminded. I don't even own

[CGUYS] M$ vs. iPad, M$ Bows Out

2010-04-30 Thread t.piwowar
Microsoft Says 'Courier' Tablet Project Shelved for Now - WSJ.com http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704302304575214692513583532.html?mod=rss_personal_technology I'm not at all surprised. * ** List info,

Re: [CGUYS] M$ vs. iPad, M$ Bows Out

2010-04-30 Thread mike
I can hear the head of development for courier at MS...'Apple released what? The iwhat?...dammit!...scrap everything!' On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 11:05 PM, t.piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: Microsoft Says 'Courier' Tablet Project Shelved for Now - WSJ.com

Re: [CGUYS] illegal search warrant?

2010-04-30 Thread Jeff Miles
What does a criminal stealing an iPhone and another criminal buying the iPhone have anything to do with bleeding heart liberals? BTW, it has been decided yet if any criminal activity took place, but I guess we can exempt you from the jury. Jeff Miles jmile...@charter.net Join my Mafia

Re: [CGUYS] illegal search warrant?

2010-04-30 Thread Jeff Miles
I'm a strong Apple supporter. However, what they did by releasing these prototypes was just plain stupid. As to your comment below, this is crap. Bringing up the bible, Moses, the 10 commandments, Hitler, Nazis, is a cheap trick that if used means you've probably already lost

Re: [CGUYS] illegal search warrant?

2010-04-30 Thread Jeff Miles
Apples and oranges. Please excuse the pun. Jeff Miles jmile...@charter.net Join my Mafia http://apps.facebook.com/inthemafia/status_invite.php?from=550968726 On Apr 28, 2010, at 7:17 PM, David K Watson wrote: You can personally feel that Apple was foolish in how they let the phone

Re: [CGUYS] illegal search warrant?

2010-04-30 Thread Jeff Miles
You are assuming a lot. So far no one has been tried and convicted. Therefore, legally, no illegalities have occurred. When it's been deemed, tried and a jury says so, then you can rightfully claim illegalities occurred. I'll say the same to you that I said to Tipa, I guess you're

Re: [CGUYS] illegal search warrant?

2010-04-30 Thread Jeff Miles
No, it's not. Jeff Miles jmile...@charter.net Join my Mafia http://apps.facebook.com/inthemafia/status_invite.php?from=550968726 On Apr 28, 2010, at 10:36 PM, t.piwowar wrote: On Apr 28, 2010, at 10:34 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: That is not a fair or accurate comparison. It

Re: [CGUYS] illegal search warrant?

2010-04-30 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 5:07 AM, Jeff Miles jmile...@charter.net wrote: No, it's not. This is one of those occasions where Top posting doesn't make sense It just makes it look like you are reenacting Monty Python's Argument Clinic Sketch. -- John Duncan Yoyo

Re: [CGUYS] illegal search warrant?

2010-04-30 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 4:44 AM, Jeff Miles jmile...@charter.net wrote: I'm a strong Apple supporter. However, what they did by releasing these prototypes was just plain stupid. As to your comment below, this is crap. Bringing up the bible, Moses, the 10 commandments, Hitler,

Re: [CGUYS] M$ vs. iPad, M$ Bows Out

2010-04-30 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 2:05 AM, t.piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: Microsoft Says 'Courier' Tablet Project Shelved for Now - WSJ.com http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704302304575214692513583532.html?mod=rss_personal_technology I'm not at all surprised. If you really think that

Re: [CGUYS] M$ vs. iPad, M$ Bows Out

2010-04-30 Thread Chris Dunford
I can hear the head of development for courier at MS...'Apple released what? The iwhat?...dammit!...scrap everything!' Really. It's too bad, though. According to a couple of articles I've seen, Courier was one of the few tablet-size boxes that was designed from scratch to be its own

Re: [CGUYS] illegal search warrant?

2010-04-30 Thread mike
I'm not a lawyer or a jurist or even an avid fan of Matlock. Just a little armchair judgement. I do know what has ensued was unethical, and I don't think it was limited to Gizmodo. On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 1:57 AM, Jeff Miles jmile...@charter.net wrote: You are assuming a lot. So far no

Re: [CGUYS] M$ vs. iPad, M$ Bows Out

2010-04-30 Thread mike
Just a little fun. I know the network of tech pundits I usually hear/read expressed disappointment about courier being scrapped. Who really knows why, I'm sure if it was the iPad, MS would never say..and they really didn't say much when they squashed it so we may never really know. MS's biggest

Re: [CGUYS] illegal search warrant?

2010-04-30 Thread Jeff Miles
It is a very conservative town. I live in the part of the state where many want to break the state in two. We'd have the liberal West Washington state and the conservative East Washington state. I think that would be horrible, giving us an odd number of states, unless we can all go

Re: [CGUYS] illegal search warrant?

2010-04-30 Thread Jeff Miles
I hate being stuck in the middle. I have to agree with you Mike. I'm a stanch liberal, but also a strong advocate of toting guns. For those who think guns kill people and not people kill people, by that logic we should ban cars. We should also ban all smoking, all alcohol and anything

Re: [CGUYS] illegal search warrant?

2010-04-30 Thread mike
Don't forget bathtubs! On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 10:01 AM, Jeff Miles jmile...@charter.net wrote: I hate being stuck in the middle. I have to agree with you Mike. I'm a stanch liberal, but also a strong advocate of toting guns. For those who think guns kill people and not people kill

Re: [CGUYS] illegal search warrant?

2010-04-30 Thread Jeff Miles
It's not a fair comparison because a car left running (while stupid, and illegal in my town) has a high expectation of being reclaimed or returned to by the owner. A phone left and not claimed within a reasonable amount of time is considered abandoned. And I'd consider a reasonable

Re: [CGUYS] illegal search warrant?

2010-04-30 Thread Jeff Miles
Product testing? I'm thinking of the stealth fighter jet of the 80s'. I'm sure it was product tested and didn't need to be parked in the parking lot of a bar. Come on, common sense. The guy who lost the phone also lost his common sense. And so did Apple, in this instance. Jeff Miles

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