Re: [CGUYS] NOT moving to the cloud

2008-12-10 Thread b_s-wilk
>If I lived/worked in the DC metro area, the broadband might be more >reliable. It's not particularly reliable in most of the country. This would be interesting to track. Do you have a source for this? There are many comparisons of broadband service around the country and the world. Here's on

Re: [CGUYS] NOT moving to the cloud

2008-12-09 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
OK you just made a huge assumption. I keep both local and a national email address. I use my local ISP to access that email address but I still use pop. My ISP is not reliable. But then again neither is the DSL down here. We are in what would be called an undeserved area. (No competition

Re: [CGUYS] NOT moving to the cloud

2008-12-09 Thread Tony B
Actually, this sounds like me as little as two years ago. Despite the fact that, having had broadband for some ten years, I could count the days of outages on one finger. All told, broadband's been more reliable than the power grid. Then, it still made a lot of sense for me to be able to access my

Re: [CGUYS] NOT moving to the cloud

2008-12-09 Thread Tom Piwowar
>If I lived/worked in the DC metro area, the broadband might be more >reliable. It's not particularly reliable in most of the country. This would be interesting to track. Do you have a source for this? * ** List info, subs

Re: [CGUYS] NOT moving to the cloud

2008-12-09 Thread Tom Piwowar
>Is the online software free? Does it require a subscription? I own >licenses to what I need, and prefer to avoid subscriptions. Where's the >ever-present affordable broadband? Not here. I do store data remotely, >but can't get to it whenever I need it, so must plan ahead for access. Not free,

Re: [CGUYS] NOT moving to the cloud

2008-12-09 Thread Tom Piwowar
>Yes, email comes from the so-called "cloud", but it doesn't rely on >continuous connection for download. Using programs online does, and it's >still not reliable enough to count on being there whenever it's needed. >I'll have my software local, thank you. I'll use online software when >it's th

Re: [CGUYS] NOT moving to the cloud

2008-12-08 Thread b_s-wilk
>In the thirty years I've used computers, I have never trusted them to >absolutely be there when I need them the most--local or remote. Could it be that your 30-year perspective causes you to put more emphasis on things as they once were and not enough emphasis on things as they are today? I

Re: [CGUYS] NOT moving to the cloud

2008-12-08 Thread b_s-wilk
Valid points. But email comes from the cloud anyway, so it's tough to argue that one. I mean, why delete an important email from the cloud? Then you're relying on your own backup methods to preserve it. Also, today's cloud _does_ offer multiple locations and backups. Which systems were you having

Re: [CGUYS] NOT moving to the cloud

2008-12-08 Thread Tom Piwowar
>Also, today's cloud _does_ offer multiple locations and backups. Which >systems were you having so much trouble with? How long ago? Don't you >think they've improved things at all? As much as I hate to agree with Tony, it also looks to me that you may be clinging to old methods at a time when ne

Re: [CGUYS] NOT moving to the cloud

2008-12-08 Thread Tom Piwowar
>In the thirty years I've used computers, I have never trusted them to >absolutely be there when I need them the most--local or remote. Could it be that your 30-year perspective causes you to put more emphasis on things as they once were and not enough emphasis on things as they are today? **

Re: [CGUYS] NOT moving to the cloud

2008-12-08 Thread Tony B
Valid points. But email comes from the cloud anyway, so it's tough to argue that one. I mean, why delete an important email from the cloud? Then you're relying on your own backup methods to preserve it. Also, today's cloud _does_ offer multiple locations and backups. Which systems were you having

[CGUYS] NOT moving to the cloud

2008-12-07 Thread b_s-wilk
> Yeah, I can see why everyone would be incredulous. It sounds like 10X > the work to produce what you perceive is a little convenience. Get a > Gmail account and you can just use any browser *anywhere* to access > these records and compose documents. No Word needed, and no worries > about backing