In MCC - System, the icon near Choose the display manager is traffic light
device with red, yellow and green lights all off. What have traffic lights
in common with choosing type of login window, is again beyond my
understanding, but if red light would be shining bright _on_ it could make
I have reloaded the packages for KPPP 1 and KAddressBook 2
to my system. KAddressBook did find all my e-mail
addresses. Incidently, I also lost the game Freecell. 3
My bigger problem is I can't connect to my ISP through
my modem. The connections got lost when I upgraded. I
did use the config
I would like to see this one also. But, will there be any risk, such as, users
could accidently delete stuff from their winbloze partition?
No greater than the risk native to Windows
can i patch this idea a bit??
run the links to a folder on the desktop (bonus points if you can create
a
I third the clean /usr/share/icons idea and suggest that a general
document and repair job be done on the whole filesystem ie
between the WM and Xcore where is what found.
Buchan Milne wrote:
And where on the mandrake site is a listing of exactly what is on the
commercial cds
From: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/9.2/features/
Additional drivers for NVIDIA-based and ATI videocards are available in
Mandrake packs.
or less than a week old list of whats on
Buchan Milne wrote:
XFree86 doesn't support these cards yet AFAIK. You have to have the
non-free ATI driver. Fedora won't ship it, and the drivers are:
- -on the commercial CDs
- -on the Club.
And where on the mandrake site is a listing of exactly what is on the
commercial cds or less than
Bruno Prior wrote:
For those who think that 9.2 was in a fit state to be released and
that those who have criticised were over-reacting - have a look at
Linux Format's Help forum. It is being swamped with installation
support requests for 9.2. It is _very_ bad news for linux (and
Mandrake)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If you are talking about only the LG issue, I think your point is moot.
1)LG will replace or repair the devices
2)An exploit of this is possible on Windows, and I am sure we will see one
soon, and then I guess people will say Windows isn't ready for the
desktop?
If you
Francisco Alcaraz wrote:
I just have bought a linux magazine (Todo Linux) that comes
with the two first Mandrake 9.2 and, of course, with the
old kernel. Nothing in the magazine warn about the possible
problem with LG cdrom drivers.
It could be problematic have lot of people having their LG
Just for reference
1 how can you tell the LG safe isos from the older ones? (file date
/name or...)
2 any other fixes
And please tell me if i buy a dvd copy that it is the latest version
Greg Meyer wrote:
Dude, My cd drive is dead is going to be heard here in the US (Dell
uses LG cdroms in some systems)
:-)
and i would be very upset if i PAID for an OS and had this kind of Issue.
I'd be more upset about getting a CDROM drive that was so obviously
handicapped.
Jan Ciger wrote:
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Robert L Martin wrote:
| SomeDrake needs to post when the official LG-SAFE isos are ready (im
| going to assume that
| somebody yelled STOP THE PRESSES (aka via BF ARRÊTEZ LES PRESSIONS)
| when
My French is poor, but as far as I know
Daouda LO wrote:
Really funny :))
Nice catch about the translation, Jan!
Roger, Arreter la presse (des CDS) is a better translation for
STOP THE PRESSE(S).
I just hope that somebody did yell whatever is correct or else
Dude, My cd drive is dead is going to be heard here in the US (Dell
uses
Yeah, but I am trying to figure it all out right now. I am having a terrible
time getting MakeCD to run in anything other than auto mode. If I use the
config file, it won't build the iso.
The scripts are not well documented and everyone else that talks about doing
this skips so many
Greg Meyer wrote:
I think Buchan's point is that if one tries to start X and it fails, XFdrake
should be launched automatically to try and help the user fix the problem.
how about this in the init 3 scripts have one that pipes X start
%datetime% or something to /var/log/Xmark then at
some
On Saturday 25 October 2003 01:53 pm, Francisco Alcaraz wrote:
I am absolutely according with this; I am introducing lot of
people to use Mandrake and installing it in his computers,
but everythime we have to spend lot of time donwloading
updates; if every time updated isos were avalaible for
Pierre Jarillon wrote:
Le Dimanche 26 Octobre 2003 22:55, Giuseppe Ghib a crit :
IMHO the main obstable is the Pantone proprietary system.
This problem must be solved to allow free software used by
professional printers. But I can't imagine free inks :-(
If ever you have only a shadow
On Wednesday 22 October 2003 08:25 am, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:
If we want to go with larger floppies with 1.44 MBytes drives, we
need serious testing. I'm afraid this brings lots of hardware
problems (and floppies already have much hardware problems).
This would be a good thing for a
On Wednesday 22 October 2003 09:45 am, Leon Brooks wrote:
Might help to also report the breed of IDE controller involved, and/or
the CPU brand and speed since it sounds like a combination of factors
is necessary to fry a drive.
it may be a bit of a darwin problem does the installer try to pull
On Wednesday 22 October 2003 09:56 am, Mike wrote:
Mandrake is a professional company, and therefore should use the best
tool for the job... besides it might have just been contributed by a
professional designer... they laugh at gimp (im afraid)
Graphics programs take a lot of time to develop
On Wednesday 22 October 2003 12:31 pm, Thierry Vignaud wrote:
hostile interface but also because the two most common cultural
references to the word gimp in the US (and maybe other English
speaking countries) are very, very negative and one could very
well get you sued if the wrong person
On Sunday 19 October 2003 10:59 am, guran wrote:
Very maturely written, and this points to an estimate for what a newbie
wants to function in a testing of Mdk. AFAIK it ought to be:
1) drivers for graphics
2) drivers for sound
3) drivers for java
4) drivers for realplayer
On Sunday 19 October 2003 11:36 am, LE BERRE Daniel wrote:
Java, RealPlayer, flash, Nvidia drivers/plugins etc are not open source
software, so one just cannot distribute them on freely available isos,
while Mandrakesoft can sign an agreement with their vendor to distribute
them in their
On Sunday 19 October 2003 12:23 pm, Götz Waschk wrote:
Who's more important, the stupid windows convert, or the developer? If
you remove emacs from the CD, you'll scare of the developers. No
developers means no new software. BTW it's not emacs that is growing
and growing and taking away the CD
On Wednesday 15 October 2003 10:27 am, Guillaume Rousse wrote:
Which remember me that if we were able to split headers from real sources,
you won't need to install 30Mo package to build those additional kernel
modules.
Maybe there are technical arguments i didn't caught however, as it seems
On Monday 13 October 2003 04:51 am, Kevin Perros wrote:
1. The packages are a good thing but there should be a frontend to the
package systems where we talk about apps and plugins. The apps should be
organized in a tree that should be understood by the end-user. A typical
end-user doesn't know
Making your way trough
sourceforge to find the correct update is not done for newbies that try
Mandrake as Redmond OS replacement, and Mandrake attracts a lot of those.
Just for this reason alone I think there should be a Mandrakeupdate.com
that a newbie could go to and get the correct list
Ha ha ha!!!, urpmi is round-robin!!!
[EMAIL PROTECTED] samba]# urpmi OpenGroupware.org
One of the following packages is needed:
1- opengroupware-sope-4.2-20030721.1mdk.i586
2- opengroupware-sope-devel-4.2-20030721.1mdk.i586
What is your choice? (1-2) [EMAIL PROTECTED] samba]#
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
OTOH many of the users of Download Edition does not ever buy a package or
become a club member anyway, wich means it does not generate any income there
either...
And this is where you need to mkae sure that 99.999% of the packages (by
useage) work the first time.
Speaking as one of those D/l
BTW, most (ie 95% of) internet subscribers in South Africa are on dialup.
We have about 3000 DSL lines total available in the country ... and I
expect there are many countries in a similar situation, where just adding
OpenOffice.org to updates would require users to run a 6 hour update ...
and
Allas. CD's are read-only.
assuming that the PHB even looks at the program that closely its a
fairly easy handwave since if you are on the OO.o list the community
manager said and i quote
Hi
In my enthusiasm for OpenOffice.org 1.1, I neglected to clarify a point
OpenOffice.org 1.1.0 is
The nice thing about this is I can put it on a DVD, and not worry about
mis-placing the DVD. Can mount it anyplace with the loop AES stuff.
well lets just say if you ever need to worry about the DVD then you have
bigger problems also (of the acronym kind ie NSA FBI GRU KGB CIA ...)
- What was wrong in 9.2 development process?
- We though a bit late in the 9.2 developement process to split cooker ml, we
should do it now.
- What could we do to improve 9.3/10.0 development.
- What should we do to improve the Wiki.
- Should we have cooker snapshot ISOs?
- What could we do,
What about a metadistro with a cdrom (in the future a dvdrom) runing
Mandrake from the cd-driver? similar to Knoppix but with all the Mandrake
goodies.
there are a couple mandrake related projects to do exactly that. Maybe
Mandrakesoft could adopt one of them and or start a wiki node with
No. I don't need ISO's at all during development. 'rsync'ing to a local
server and installing via net from there is cheap, fast and reliable.
This is not my opinion. Some problems are only found with a fresh install
or an upgrade of a previous stable distribution.
and lets not forget the
Doing Knoppix MIB with Mandrake files would KILL.
I am looking at doing something like this now ... but I'm not sure if I
have access to such a version of Knoppix (is it in standard knoppix yet,
or still a remastered version?).
(this project boots from cd and then mounts a flash memory key
If you don't want Mandrakesoft to survive, why do you bother running
Mandrake?
I for one don't want MandrakeSoft to become another Microsoft
I think that one of the guides for the next release should be
EVERTHING works. stop dinking about with the splash screens and the
themes and just make it
Add OSS is likely to die soon, so why waste effort to support it ?
--
do you happen to have a list of cards NOT supported by ALSA but
supported by OSS?
remove any isa cards (wouldn't run current mandrake)
if the number of cards is more than a dozen that would be why
likely to die soon is not
Is there any chance that cloop support is in /can be added to 9.2?
Im pondering doing a memory key version of Mandrake and it seems that
this is just about the only piece missing.
Packages tend to be propagated to mirrors before the hdlists,
so if you happen to catch a mirror while it's busy updating, you may
well find a situation where the hdlist it has no longer reflects the
packages it has. Thus the missing packages (these would be ones that had
been updated twice since
Maybe this just makes to much sense to work but it would help if you
could get a file (called distrodep.%version%.%arch%.tar.gz maybe?) that
gives a human readable list of what each rpm needs/conflicts
with/provides and what cd this rpm is on ie
RPM|needs | conflicts with
Okay, thanks to Frederic, we know it's Mr. Duval who should be
informed...so I've sent him a mail summarising the thread so far and
quoting the more general CSS improvements that were suggested as well.
And while he is fixing the site he needs to remember that cute doesn't
cut it if you are old
Then there's the DPI issue. Pt sizes depend on DPI as well as monitor
size and resolution, while px sizes only depend on monitor size and
resolution. Pt is not an appropriate way to size display fonts:
then there is the problem of folks that need to use high res desktops
due
Seems to work OK if the majority of participants are altruists. Mind
you, so does any other political system.
I would put it that Communism is classic Prey --- Predator where the
Preds fool the prey into thinking they are equal
Pure Royal of course is Prey -Predator where the Prey KNOWS
This is an argument for a Create Local Copy option
The best and simplest way to fix this type of error would be to (after
diskdrake) Put an Option and ask Would you like to copy your media to a
Local Disk? Options can be
1 No
2 Yes /usr/share/RPMStore
3 Yes %input box browse box%
Then in the
you are *NOT* currently
using. It never displays the currently used driver, which is very confusing. So
if you actually have a choice on the recommended list, that will be the OSS
driver if you're currently using the ALSA driver, and vice versa.
This is insane but sounds like a case of somebody
All I know is, since I have tried the latest Cooker KDE (3.14?)
I don't get the side pane (navigation) in Konqueror file browser (see
attached picture) - now all I get are the files themselves.
do you get the buttons on the rail to the left? It seems to me that the
only way to get the tree view
very long story short
Bill Gates made computers usable for 99.44% of the non-geek population
but this includes some very stupid people.
worry if Random co serves you will lawsuit papers otherwise mv %mail%
/dev/null
here is poll - should this functionality
- be disabled
- made optional (mount option) that I do not like
- left as is.
---
i would say leave as-isish but have MountDrake drop a file called
this is an empty mount point into the point when is is made so
you have
1 directory is
Well, I'm sorry for my trollish way of saying it. The real point here is
I'm just willing to expect more quality and more support as a club
member and ans Mandrake Sustainer than from friendly geekish mirrors and
contributions. If I can't get it work better with the club and with
Mandrake I
wouldn't dare attempt to sell a
distro with some french word misspelled
i think Mandrake should extend the same curtesy.
(and as requested in 4/4 time no accents and all ows same (sort of slur
into the N on browN)
Robert L Martin
Made in the USA with irish and other foriegn parts)
uhr, not really, you've got dependencies for that one
dependencies don't work if you are looking at downloading the rpm to a
Windows system (for later install on a disconnected Linux system)
IMHO, this kind of description for a game is pretty useless. Sure it's
pretty, but it doesn't tell you anything like what type of game it is,
what hardware it uses etc. Maybe we should move to something like This
is a 3D space action game based on the SDL libraries as a description
for a game
Instead of emotional outbursts, please rather document the reasons you
don't like mdkkdm, as others have done on the cooker wiki. Maybe the only
reason you detest mdkkdm is that you can't log in as root by default, and
if they change the default to be kdm, maybe they will disable root login
Well, why not just ask during install ? If you ask what you have suggested,
you could as well ask, who will be responsible for this box.
--
and you could go a step further and during user creation ask
What is the
Because the fact that it use the SDL API gives an indication of the the
of overall level of performance which might be achieved as SDL
encompasses low-level access to a system's video framebuffer, sound
output, and input devices including keyboard, mouse, and joystick.
It is the GPL answer but
I noticed that Open Office 1.0.3 is installed in
Mandrake 9.2 beta 1.
If we are to shy away from 1.1 at lease 1.0.3.1 should
be used.
-Joe Baker
=-
i think that 1.1 being only an RC shoots it being on disc for main but it
can somebody point me at a good (detailed) way to convert a folder of
rpms (the ones from a cd set) to a usable
rpm store (bonus points for showing how to add a few random rpms to this
set)
(im thinking that gendistrib gets used as a finialish step but what is
step 1 , 2 ,3 )
( i want to
This is a problem with the StarSuite packages and not Mandrake. Apprently,
StarSuite is updating the standard KDE and GNOME menus, which Mandrake does
not use. Mandrake uses the Debian menuing system, so there is a seperate
menu structure that the package being installed needs to know about.
It may be feasible to have menudrake be able to import new menus, but this
really should be done with user interaction. A commandline version exists,
in kdedesktop2mdkmenu.pl,
-
The big problem would be do the prompts read in %English
like maybe
Programs have been found
probably because it's a bit of a pain to apply the patch and recompile
the kernel...is there no easier way of testing?
-
Speaking as one of the Hairy Knuckle/Kilingon crowd
its not that bad if you know what options to set/module/unset
you can do the compile run in a few minutes
Most of the time, though, this is something that a person worries about when
writing links for within his own site. But since it's good form, people
have gotten used to seeing directory resource requests terminated with a
slash and [b]it's become the Web equivalent of ensuring a sentence is
After finially getting a copy (dl) of 9.1 i started poking around and
found the TV Drake ap.
Good that an ap is there bad that it does not see my Ati Radeon All In
Wonder 7500.
Does anybody know of documentation for how to get My tv tuner working ?
(modules.conf lines and what rpms i need)
Does anybody know of documentation for how to get My tv tuner working ?
(modules.conf lines and what rpms i need)
You need ati.2 and avview from 9.1 contrib
Spence
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And how about a few
That is certainly true, but if I'm the French government, I'd certainly
consider Mandrake before Red Hat (definitely) and SuSE, as the money
stays in France.
---
and time/ travel problems are less if you want to strangle the
I am not sure how to do this, but the thing I would like to see is a
package that *allows* you to create such a CD, not just a project that
creates 1 such CD. This way, it would allow people to easily create
different versions of the Mandrake bootable installation, depending on
what they want
I will not continue this conversation any further, if it's
wished. However, I want the input of the cooker community about
this.
--
Until there is evidence that the country is GONE leave the Flag/ Settings in
(you do run
Vincent, I think in future could we avoid announcements like this on
cooker? If we were to have an announcement for every new release on this
list, it could get quite crowded.
True, except the current version in cooker is more than one release old. If
indeed the maintainer were getting
I currently have no idea why, but about once per day my system's clock
will suddenly lose an hour or so. It can easily be reset, but I'd like
to know why it's changing in the first place.
Can't say in make xconfig, but it is in .config here
--
confusion between CUI and GUI
the option may not be in the GUI because somebody didn't do the correct set of clicks
to see it (dep tree problem) but if you grep the raw file
nah, while sitting with demoscene, I'm not gonna produce anything, at least
not this year
there will be over 5000 participants this year, mostly gamers etc. of course,
but with more focus on the demoscene last year it'll be more demosceners this
year:)
be there or be square!
ha ha ha ha..., (långsökt) it's from the Highlander2 movie; The
Quickening
I should really go to bed now...
hehe, probably, you still don't make much sense;)
--
in the Highlander world The Gathering is when all of the immortals got together
and
something of a stupid question but
how would one make on a single non-networked box have local-host show
up as example laurencemartin.com
(but not make the real laurencemartin.com unavailible on that box)
{66.246.17.187 on the net}
well, that was just a few of my ideas for this repository, I gotta go now:)
My suggestion ftp://operahouse.linux-mandrake.com
mantainer--- The Phantom
But how easy is it to set up MS-DOS
depends on how hard you want it to be IF you have the floppies/ or a partition handy
serves those gawddamn punks right for not buying the boxed set :p
--
and what about those GPs that are also CEO types using the download version as a demo?
this is the kind of thing that could be $ignificant to Corporation$
You should have better luck if/when you can install 9.1;-)
-
which deps on
metalab.edu getting the ISOs
my connected buddy seeing that
and doing the D/l
burning the set
bringing the set to work
Whats the DVD copy going for?
My question, how much interest is there in the gatos project and would RPMs help more people.
im at about the promissing my first born stage of getting my radeon AIW 7500 working
with mandrake
by working i mean
X working
DVD
Priority for sources. So that if two (or more) totaly same packages
exist in two (or more) sources you can set the priority so that the
package gets installed from the media with higher priority. For example
some prefere local sorces to have higher priority and some prefer some
FTP server for
That doesn't make sense to me. In that case, then even if you could
find files on the site manually (how would you do that withoutn a net
conn??) then you could not download them. If you can connect to the
net then simply go here:
http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/index.php#third
and configure the
Maybe mandrakesoft.com could drop mandrake.org domain name in favor of such
project ?
or maybe a gentlemens agreement to not bother a domain name with the letters
DRAKE in it that just happens to have man-drake stuff on it??
Problems with ATI and nVidea products. Only the two most
popular video cards on the market.
.. And the two that prefer to make proprietary drivers rather than, if they
want the speed and quality, making their work fully open..
In looking at the various ftp sites i see way to much variation on how
the file tree sets up. How does one pull a single set of rpms from
a site without having to walk the entire tree?? (by hand, for an example
the rpms needed to use audacity)
Also in doing Rsync i would think that if more than
I think that is what urpmi is good at. Set up a cooker source, urpmi
audacity will fetch and install all rpms that are required.
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and how does one find a site correctly configured to use as a source
and what if you don't
Maybe it would be better to hold this discussion somewhere other than the
cooker mailing list since it's become very off-topic?
-
comming from a JC background i would say come back when you have determined
1 how many
Avview works for most boards IF the latest ati.2 from gatos is installed. If they are not included for 9.1 final, I will try and build them in RPM format.
-
can you put me on the list for testing said rpms??
There's a saa7134 driver. It doesn't work for you, or was it just not
autodetected at install?
No workies is not really a valid bugreport.
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since i think i may have a similar problem (still not answered ) with a radeon
Is there a b*set of packages availible*b to enable an ATI Radeon AIW
tv tuner to function yet??
george next time try reading what was actually said ( and last time i
checked no config info was given in the badly written FM)
since the only gatos package i can see is one from 2001??? i was
Is there a set of packages availible to enable an ATI Radeon AIW tv
tuner to function yet??
(as far as i can tell some sort of mandrake magic must be done to get
this cards tuner working or i need to drink a case of wine)
[running a stock 9.0 setup due to lack of access to high speed]
btw who
Should we only include
linux-friendly ISPs etc etc?
Exclude an ISP if they fail
1 a good percentage of a nations population has this ISP
2 Have no chance of being useable
Include AOL and any of the run this 5 meg dialer ap so we can spam you ISPs
Please dial nearest MS support center regaring this (is it free?, now it
costs money). It has nothing to do with Linux, Cooker or Mandrake...
Go to www.ntfaq.com for free advise.
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as the question is on the LINUX
Can some on give me some ideas about the following problem? Thanks
set the pif to reboot in DOS mode and have a stripped config
--
Robert LaurenceMartin
If you just use it for getting
the newest packages, that's ok. But don't expect support, you can mail
something is broken, and fix it yourself, or wait for a fix.
The Rule of Cooker
If it breaks your system you get to
A fix it /debug what happened
B keep both pieces
--
Robert LaurenceMartin
For us uninformed, what does it mean to have the binaries stripped?
--
binaries stripped = does not have extra debug symbols included
and other devel stuff is removed (saves space/memory)
SOP for M$?
sorry?
http://www.campbell.berry.edu/faculty/jgrout/acronym.html gives 2
possibilities.
SOP Sales and Operations Planning (Profusely used by APICS)
SOP Standard Operating Procedure
Cya, Han.
Do we have a cannonical list of Mandrake supported hardware? This
knowledge seems to be embedded in apps like the devicedrakes, but
it would be a little more useful to know what works _before_ buying
it ;) In a perfect world, I'd like to know of a webpage where I can
surf in from a computer
Btw does anybody know what that little quote means? :)
--
new rule for Multi-National lists
All Quotes (and other material) not in the suggested language (SL =
English for this list) shall be translated and placed in a
4) When I run harddrake through the control panel button to configure
Hardware/Modem, I get the select box showing my modems as USRs, but
if I select configure, which is the only option other than cancel,
I just get the dialog referring me to linmodems.
Why aren't they better? Exactly *what* is so bad about RPM and DEB?
at least with rpms/rpm programs
1 No easy way to dump your install cds in a folder and
strongquickly/strong have deps
auto-resolved
2 How does one recover from a burnt rpm database and have the info
acurate?
3 dep trees get way
At present (shame on me), I must use windows to burn DVD, but I will try
to
figure out a better solution post 8.1.
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isn't a DVD just a really big UDF volume?? (DVD DATA that is DVD Movie
is a whole other wine vault)
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